Time Nick Message 13:17 MinetestBot jas_: Nov-26 22:39 UTC if 'something has less gravity' it's downward acceleration will have a lower value, thinking in terms of 'deceleration' will confuse you 14:16 AspireMint Hello, what happened to entity "on_punch" function? o.O Lua_api says "entity:on_punch(puncher, time_from_last_punch, tool_capabilities, direction, 14:16 AspireMint damage)" but thats not true, parameters are wrong. Tested on MT5 and MT0.4.16. Looks like param1 = obj.entity_ref, param2 = puncher_ref, param3 = time_from_last_punch, param4 = tool_capabilities? , param5 = direction. 14:17 AspireMint but i see some mods are using first param as puncher... might break their code 14:35 rubenwardy AspireMint: the colon means that the first parameter is self 14:35 AspireMint OOooh, nvm, i forgot that "secret" first param that refers to entity... 14:35 AspireMint yeah im blind 15:20 Kacey So uh.. It's been a long while since I've been here 16:01 fwhcat hi 16:01 fwhcat me too actually 16:02 Kacey Like, 7 years ish 16:02 fwhcat oh wow 16:02 fwhcat Hello back then 16:03 Kacey Mostly only popped back in to track someone down. He doesn't seem to be here currently, but I've sent him a message. Hopefully he sees it 16:27 rubenwardy Hey Kacey 16:28 rubenwardy Who are you looking for? 17:01 Kacey I was looking for OldCoder 17:02 VanessaE you won't find him in minetest channels anymore. 17:02 VanessaE in short, he went full retard a while back. he's no longer welcome here. 17:03 Kacey Hello Vanessa. I noticed. Found him, though. And oh. That would explain 17:23 rubenwardy Kacey: he's been network banned from Freenode, too 17:28 VanessaE forgot about that 18:07 Ruslan1 VanessaE: what happened to OldCoder 18:07 VanessaE as I said... 18:07 VanessaE he went full retard a while back. 18:07 Ruslan1 He got banned 18:08 * VanessaE slides a merge commit under Krock's chair ;) 18:08 Ruslan1 VanessaE: he got banned 18:09 * Krock throws VanessaE out of the window 18:09 VanessaE Ruslan1: banned from minetest channel, forum, etc., then k-lined from all of freenode, because of the insanity that aims at everyone. 18:09 VanessaE channels* 18:09 Lone_WolfHT wow, rip 18:11 VanessaE as you can imagine, we don't like to talk about him here. 18:20 rubenwardy well, he actually never got banned from the minetest IRC, he got banned from freenode first 18:20 VanessaE you sure? 18:20 VanessaE I couldaa sworn he had. 18:20 VanessaE -a 18:21 Ruslan1 VanessaE: OldCoder is not bad 18:21 VanessaE Ruslan1: oh yes, he is. 18:21 Fuchs beg your pardon? 18:21 VanessaE Ruslan1: there's literally no one worse than him associated with minetest, past or present. 18:21 Fuchs someone falsely accusing various projects of the most horrible things, someone threatening to (and actually doing) Doxxing people, calling their work and family, 18:21 VanessaE greetz, Fuchs 18:21 rubenwardy hey Fuchs 18:22 Fuchs someone harassing various people on the most sensitive topics and being downright inhumane about it 18:22 Krock hi Fuchs 18:22 Fuchs if you don't call that "bad", then I really wonder what passes as "bad" for you 18:22 Ruslan1 VanessaE: yeah I know 18:23 Fuchs throughout my work in big FOSS communities I met thousand of people, a few dozens I had to take action on, and rest assured, from a person point of view, that one is on the top 3 of most horrible people alive 18:23 Ruslan1 VanessaE: OldCoder did fixing the server 18:24 VanessaE Ruslan1: don't talk about his projects or servers in here. 18:24 Ruslan1 I know but okay 18:25 Ruslan1 And also sorry 18:25 BillyS I can see Ruslan's point; if I didn't know OC's history he would seem nice but strange 18:26 Ruslan1 Billy me 18:26 BillyS He seems slightly insane. 18:26 rubenwardy hey Kacey, here's some context for you ^^ 18:26 VanessaE BillyS: and OC feeds on that. 18:26 BillyS I could see him doing that ... 18:26 Ruslan1 Me 18:28 Ruslan1 Billy hi 18:29 Kacey See, I'm really not surprised about what happened with OC. He was... rather obsessive sometimes, and going absolutely over the top like that is something I can see happening 18:29 Kacey Also, apologies, was afk 18:30 Ruslan1 VanessaE: I’m not rules brokers 18:30 VanessaE *shrug* 18:33 Kacey Anyway, now that I've come back here, kinda feel like getting back into Minetest.. 18:34 VanessaE go play on my servers :) 18:34 Ruslan1 Cool 18:34 Kacey Now that I'm a bit older and not so "look at all these cool ideas I have! Someone should make them a reality for me," and what not 18:34 Lone_Wolf I wuld say the same but I don't have any. lol 18:35 Calinou hi :) 18:35 Lone_Wolf heh 18:35 Kacey Man, just thinking back that far makes me cringe a bit. That was middle school.. 18:35 rubenwardy sounds good :) 18:35 Kacey Hello Calinou 18:35 rubenwardy so long ago, there's been a lot of changes since 18:35 rubenwardy we're coming up to releasing 0.5.0 soon 18:36 Kacey Ooooooo 18:36 rubenwardy although we've dropped the first 0 and added another one, and are calling it 5.0.0 instead 18:36 Kacey I remember 0.4.0 coming out 18:36 Lone_Wolf If you don't hurry up with that release everyone may move to it anyway. It's got some nice new features 18:36 Kacey So development is a bit slow, I take it? 18:37 rubenwardy not necessarily 18:37 Kacey Ah 18:37 rubenwardy it's slower than it has been, but not as slow as some other projects 18:37 Kacey So what all's new in 5.0.0? 18:37 rubenwardy 5 has been in development for 16 months, compared to the usual 6, simply due to all the changes added 18:38 rubenwardy !dev Changelog 18:38 MinetestBot "Note that not all changes made to the code between releases are listed here." - http://dev.minetest.net/Changelog 18:40 rubenwardy The bigger changes include: a better Android client and an in-menu mod/game/texturepack installer 18:40 Kacey I forgot there was an Android client. Reading through the list now 18:41 rubenwardy the Android client was released somewhere around 2013-4, which may have been after you left 18:41 Kacey I've been in and out a little bit in the interim. But I have seen the android version. Google Play suggested it to me at one point 18:44 Kacey Looks interesting. I guess I should start learning some coding skills, then. If anything, just to bring the old mods I made back to life. 18:44 rubenwardy :D 18:44 Kacey Though, I don't think I made any good mods 18:45 VanessaE Kacey: the more, the merrier :) 18:45 Kacey Now if only I could remember my github login... 18:47 VanessaE eh, forget github. The 800 pound gorilla owns them now. move to gitlab 18:47 Kacey 800 pound gorilla? 18:47 Kacey And I'm just looking for my old stuff. I'll make the switch 18:47 rubenwardy Minetest still uses github, unfortunately 18:48 VanessaE Kacey: I mean Microsoft. 18:48 Kacey Oh. I see 18:49 VanessaE the only reason I still have an active account on github is to make pull requests here and there 18:49 Kacey Triggered githubs abuse detection by scrolling and clicking quickly. Great 18:49 VanessaE wat 18:50 Kacey I'm seeing if my account even exists anymore. So I'm scrolling through a search page and clicking next page constantly 18:50 VanessaE hope that clears up quickly.. 18:50 Kacey Just wait a few moments, then f5 18:51 Kacey It's gone now 18:51 VanessaE oh, ok. 18:52 Kacey Loading too many pages too fast trips it. Just did it again by hitting the back button 18:53 Kacey I found it 18:55 Kacey Oh my. I found the old mods I made 18:57 VanessaE nice. 18:58 Kacey Hooo boy. Like staring into the past 18:58 VanessaE creepy? :) 18:59 Kacey Cringy 18:59 VanessaE heh 19:06 Kacey Wow... Just.. Wow. 19:07 Kacey Yeah, I was.. real imaginative. Just copying MC mods. 19:07 Unarelith some MC mods are really cool, I don't see an issue copying them 19:08 Unarelith (says the guys who copies Ex Nihilo) 19:08 Unarelith -s 19:08 Kacey Yeah, but this is a 13 year old with no coding/programming experience we're talking about 19:09 Kacey To be fair, some of the mods I made did work out. Buuut, I probably wasn't the one contributing most of the code/textures 19:09 Unarelith I started using Lua when I was 13 too haha, but it was on Nintendo DS, would be pretty awesome to find my old projects 19:09 Cornelia O.o 19:10 Cornelia Lua.. on a DS... 19:10 Cornelia Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa 19:10 Kacey Also, oh god, OC is absolutely crazy. He's just ranting at me.. Kinda interesting to read, but still 19:10 Unarelith yep, with MicroLuaDS 19:10 Unarelith was really awesome to start coding 19:10 VanessaE kawaiipunk: toldyaso. :P 19:10 Cornelia My first exposure to Lua was... Minetest. :P 19:11 Cornelia Though I was familiar with it because of GMod 19:11 Kacey I'm just letting him go, honestly. Reads like a book written in fluent crazy. My favorite kind of book 19:11 Cornelia Wait... ComputerCraft was my first exposure. :P 19:11 Kacey My first exposure to coding/progamming of any kind was Minetest 19:11 VanessaE Kacey: log everything to disk. 19:12 Kacey Going to. It's.. hooo 19:12 VanessaE heh 19:12 Kacey Now he's all like teary-eyed, almost, that I suddenly came back to say hi 19:14 Kacey How do I log stuff..? This IRC thing is still so new to me 19:15 VanessaE depends on your client. 19:15 Kacey I think I managed to delete the log folder and now things are freaking out.. 19:16 VanessaE better copy your convo to a text editor then. 19:16 VanessaE just in case 19:16 Kacey I can't even copy text in this client.. Blah 19:16 Kacey Screenshots it is, then 19:17 puzzlecube HexChat at least by default logs everything that happens when you are online. past that I have no idea because I have yet to mess with it too much. 19:17 VanessaE Kacey: well whatever you have to do to keep a copy 19:17 Kacey It wasn't much. But I got the screenshots 19:36 rubenwardy Kacey: welp. Expect to be CC'd to some spam emails soon 19:36 rubenwardy s/to/in 19:37 Kacey If he could find any information on me, I'd actually be mildly impressed. Then propmtly ignore them 19:37 Kacey But, he seems to be fine with me 19:38 Kacey I may have lied to him a little, but whatever 19:38 VanessaE don't underestimate him 19:41 Kacey Ehhh, old email. Not even really mine. Any of my current information should be fairly well kept. 19:46 Kacey Anyway. I'm off to bed o/ 19:57 rubenwardy yay, matrix 20:50 GreenDimond I cant for the life of me get animals to attack me when I hit them (mobs_redo) 20:50 GreenDimond I've tried setting passive to true and false yet neither produce it 21:17 ChimneySwift I know cows do that 6O.o 21:40 IhrFussel GreenDimond, you might have to define attack_type 21:41 IhrFussel GreenDimond, you might have to define attack_type 21:42 IhrFussel Cows have these 2 defined and attack you when you hit them (at least in my version) passive = false, attack_type = "dogfight", 21:43 GreenDimond I finally figured out that it doesnt attack if you spawn it from an egg 21:43 GreenDimond so my testing was faulty 21:43 GreenDimond so yeah setting passive to false worked 21:43 IhrFussel When you spawn them from an egg they are already tamed