Time Nick Message 01:49 scr267 rubenwardy: Thanks for the response. I'll be back in a moment. 01:52 scr267 rubenwardy: I'm using the latest version of the client, and running the latest stable version of the server, cloned from git and compiled. 01:52 rubenwardy udpated mineteat_game too? 01:53 scr267 as I posted earlier it's all based on the tag stable-0.4 01:53 scr267 Only one thing that could be an issue that I can think of. 01:54 scr267 The server itself has a pre-packaged version of minetest installed, so there is a minetest_game version installed in /usr/share/... somewhere. 01:54 scr267 But when I compiled, I git cloned minetest_game... The only issue really is... how can I tell which files the server is using? 01:56 scr267 Obviously I start the server using the compiled binary, passing it options to load the world, the minetest.conf file, and etc... 08:38 jas_ lol krock saying 5.0 release years away. scr267 maybe this is no help but did u consider -DRUN_IN_PLACE=1 ? 09:42 p_gimeno scr267: strace -e trace=open -f minetest 09:43 p_gimeno that tells you all the files it opens, but prepare for a lot of output. Might consider using option -o of strace, to output to a file. 11:55 jluc hello 11:55 jluc we have 2 minetest 5.0.0-dev versions runing on a local network 11:56 jluc but when trying to connect, the client get the error "access denied, wrong client version" (or so) 11:56 jluc previously (until about one month ago) it was ok and we havent changed anything localy 11:59 sfan5 upgrade them both 11:59 jluc you mean 2 5.0.0-dev versions can be not compatible ???? 12:00 sfan5 of course, this is a development version after all 12:00 jluc pfffff 12:00 jluc ok thanks 12:28 jluc all 2 installas are uptodate 12:28 jluc how can i get the detailed revision ? 12:29 jluc not compatible revisions should at least trigger some z change in the version number 12:29 jluc even when not considered as stable 12:30 jluc How can i know the detailed revision # ? 12:31 jluc 201807191105 on ubuntu 18.04 12:33 jluc more recent on lubuntu 16.04 12:37 jluc "The version number of the package is compile date; please check your actual version in-game." 12:43 jluc it looks like there is NO bionic minetest version !! 12:43 jluc https://launchpad.net/~minetestdevs/+archive/ubuntu/daily-builds doesnt propose anything for bionic 12:43 jluc when bionic is the current last stable ubuntu LTS version 12:44 jluc how is that possible ? 12:46 VanessaE just compile it from source, jeez :P 12:46 jluc :-/ 12:46 jluc nope sorry 12:46 VanessaE why? it's simple to do. 12:46 jluc too many computers to manage, i cant install a compile env in each 12:47 jluc and debug make issues in each 12:47 VanessaE yes you can :P 12:47 VanessaE or build once, then deploy to all :P 12:47 jluc different envs 12:47 jluc diffeernt issues in each softwares, each envs, etc 12:47 jluc no more a game 12:48 VanessaE then stop trying to use 5.0, it ain't ready yet. 12:48 jluc i realize that 12:48 jluc but i guess my children will loose their worlds when reverting to 4 12:48 VanessaE why would they? 12:48 VanessaE map format is unchanged afaik? 12:49 jluc you know better than me 12:49 jluc funny that november 5 version is not compatible with august 5 version 12:49 VanessaE it's dev 12:49 VanessaE it ain't done. 12:49 jluc but 5 version maps are compatible with 4 versions 12:50 VanessaE 0.4* 12:50 VanessaE and yeah, as far as I know. 12:50 VanessaE but that's immaterial :P 12:53 VanessaE you miss the critical bit: august vs. november "version"? there IS no version yet. 12:54 VanessaE 5.0.0-dev just means when it's released, it'll be 5.0.0 as of that moment. until then, it's just git from this-or-that date 12:55 VanessaE git master that is. 12:59 Krock "-dev" in the version name means that it's A) officially unstable and B) that it might break anything 12:59 VanessaE exactl 12:59 VanessaE y 12:59 Krock my two cents for jluc 13:04 VanessaE bottom line, if you want predictable version compat, go back to 0.4. 13:04 VanessaE .x* 13:04 VanessaE wait until an official release before going to 5.0.xc 13:04 VanessaE -c 13:08 jluc craftguide not compatible anymore 13:08 jluc unifieddye same 13:09 jluc protector 13:09 jluc pipeworks 13:09 jluc moreores 13:10 jluc hmm something wrong somewher 13:10 jluc it looks like no mods is compatible with 0.4 13:11 jluc Gosh no "un-activate all mods" button 13:12 ChimneySwift literally all of those mods work on 0.4, looks like a problem elsewhere 13:12 Krock ^ 13:13 Krock using them here in my singleplayer world too - no problems so far while using them in 0.4.17.1 and 5.0.0-dev (symlinks) 13:16 jluc all mods unactivated, but it still tries to call some mods-functions 13:16 jluc when launched 13:16 jluc with an existing world 13:16 jluc it runs ok with a new world 13:16 jluc well... 13:18 VanessaE all of my mods are built against 0.4.17.1 13:19 jluc my son cries now 13:20 VanessaE ... 13:20 Krock i cri too 13:21 VanessaE jluc: look, you screwed up. big deal. just start over (aside from keeping your world maps) 13:21 Krock hint: If you would upload the last relevant lines from your debug.txt file we could actually try to help you 14:00 BurningPrincess Where can I go for Minetest support? 14:00 BurningPrincess Where can I go for Minetest support? 14:01 BurningPrincess A user in my channel has problems with her Minetest and I am not sure where to direct her 14:03 calcul0n this is the right place BurningPrincess 14:04 calcul0n or try the forum if you don't get an answer here 14:04 BurningPrincess Thank you calcul0n 14:05 BurningPrincess Is the problems forum the right onbe to ask in for supported? 14:08 calcul0n i guess yes, but it looks like the website is down for now 14:08 srifqi Yes. Post your problems in Problem subforum. 14:09 BurningPrincess Thanks 14:09 srifqi Forum is up. 14:09 VanessaE forum.minetest.net is up. 14:09 calcul0n hmm, strange, i get a "server not found" 14:15 VanessaE must be dns issues or so. 14:23 Krock either that or the IP has been blocked for DDoS reasons 14:23 VanessaE sssssshhhhhhhhhh 14:23 VanessaE don't say that word 14:23 VanessaE you'll summon You Know Who 14:23 Krock IP? 14:23 Krock the Doctor Who, I hope 14:23 VanessaE no, DDoS :P 14:27 Fulgen Doctor Who? 16:09 scr267 So I did a git pull on minetest_game stable-0.4 and copied the creative mod to the .minetest/mods game folder and activated it. It's overridden the old mod... It shall do as a temporary measure until I recompile the whole thing. Thanks for all the tips! 16:19 guest1234 Hi. Is there a command to stop the rain? 16:23 guest1234 This is Mine Clone 2. Maybe there is no rain in the default game? 16:38 Krock check out "/help" 16:39 Krock and "/help cmd" 16:40 gunchyo Hello, I am just having issue with some mods loading. I have named them the proper mod name in the folder, but they don't appear to be loading... 16:40 gunchyo I am also wondering if it's possible to do borderless fullscreen, where I can alt-tab out of the window 16:41 gunchyo thank you 16:42 Krock ..did you enable them? 16:42 Krock > fullscreen = true 16:42 Krock not sure if that's borderless 16:42 gunchyo Yes they are enabled, that makes it fullscreen but I can't alt-tab. I also can't provide any input when the map loads 16:42 guest1234 Is the game always saved when you turn it off? 16:43 gunchyo I can't quit either, can't open menus so I have to change to a different TTY and pkill minetest 16:44 gunchyo disregard that, I can provide input 16:44 Krock guest1234: if it doesn't crash: yes. 16:44 guest1234 Krock: Thanks. Does it crash often? 16:44 Krock gunchyo: never used that mode here tbh.. maybe there's already an issue about it 16:45 Krock guest1234: depends how often you play 16:45 gunchyo Krock, seems fine now. let me try something 16:45 guest1234 Not very often. 16:45 gunchyo also, I found an entrance to a dungeon? mossy cobblestone, but idk how to get further 16:45 Krock pickage 16:46 Krock *pickaxe 16:46 gunchyo So dig down? 16:46 gunchyo the wiki entry for Dungeons is non-existant 16:47 gunchyo https://wiki.minetest.net/Biomes#Dungeons 16:56 gunchyo krock, do you use CraftGuide? That is one I'm confused 16:56 gunchyo it also seems like the world is very empty of mobs even though I have mob packs installed 16:57 Krock did you enable the mobs? 16:57 gunchyo yes 16:57 gunchyo animals_modpack 16:58 Krock sounds old 17:08 gunchyo ok it looks like it works 17:08 gunchyo I just don't know where to get the crafting guide 17:08 gunchyo are there newer mods Krock? 17:10 Ruslan1 Anyone know remove dark side in my server 17:17 gunchyo When I connect to Multiplayer server, how does the server know the username I use is me 17:17 gunchyo is there a hash or something attached to the username? based on IP? 17:19 Hawk777 gunchyo: the first time you log in, you can choose any name you want; every time after that, if you want to use the same username, you have to use the same password 17:19 Hawk777 So a username is bound to the password only on that particular server, not globally. 17:20 gunchyo does the server make a password, or do I Put one in the password field 17:20 Hawk777 You enter it in the password field. 17:20 gunchyo before connecting 17:20 gunchyo and server gets a hash 17:20 gunchyo ? 17:20 Hawk777 The first time you connect to a particular server with a particular username, you can put anything there. If you connect to the same server with the same username again, you have to use the same password. 17:20 Hawk777 I don’t know the details of the protocol. 17:21 gunchyo cool, thanks for the info 17:23 gunchyo should I use git builds or stable builds? 17:25 Hawk777 I’ve generally been happy using the latest release. But, I guess some people want everything right away, or want to test things, or help develop. 17:26 gunchyo seems one server wants 0.5.0 17:27 Krock I can set up the museum server again if you want to test 5.0.0-dev 17:27 gunchyo no it's ok 17:28 gunchyo ESM5 seems to only want 0.5.0 17:28 gunchyo https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=18879&sid=3fd7ace9434817b8e45232e19d654818 17:33 Krock !up ente.kak.si 34617 17:33 MinetestBot ente.kak.si:34617 seems to be down 17:34 Krock !up ente.kak.si 34617 17:34 MinetestBot ente.kak.si:34617 seems to be down 17:34 Krock *waits for DNS update* 17:40 gunchyo is there a way to see list of connected players 17:55 Krock http://servers.minetest.net/ 17:55 Krock and /status 17:58 p_gimeno Is this a fair description of the "caverns" mgv7_spflags setting? It's for the wiki. "This enables the creation of caves with very large rooms, also called caverns. There's typically no lava or water in or near them." 18:01 p_gimeno I'll go with that, somebody please correct me later if wrong 18:03 Krock yes sure 18:09 sfan5 !mod test 18:09 MinetestBot sfan5: MAPP - map for Minetest - optimized! by 4aiman - https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=4922 18:09 sfan5 uh 18:09 sfan5 alright 18:09 Krock o/ 18:10 Krock according to the last commit, the next domain change will come in 2020 18:15 p_gimeno 4aiman... heh, that's a frequent user of the love2d forums now 18:16 Krock haven't seen them in a while 18:16 Krock were most actively in Freeminer before the big silence 20:39 tobag hi 20:40 Ruslan1 Hi 20:40 tobag Edgy1? 20:41 tobag .-. 20:41 tobag is this irc 20:42 tobag hi 20:43 tobag umm.. 20:43 tobag xd 20:44 Ruslan1 Yes 20:45 tobag ... 20:46 tobag edgy1? 20:46 Edgy1 hello? 20:47 Edgy1 why am this is freenode 20:47 Edgy1 ops 20:47 Edgy1 this is freenode* 20:47 tobag ME is bageys 20:47 Edgy1 why are you on freenodeeee 20:47 tobag XD 20:47 tobag idk 20:47 Edgy1 the channel isnt on freenode lol 20:47 Edgy1 ill pm u. 20:48 tobag im on 20:48 tobag this will be the only time ill be om this.. 20:52 Krock "ill" this sounds dangerous. Consider visiting a doctor soon 20:56 Edgy1 oi Krock 20:56 Edgy1 Krock, what happened to !mtmod 20:56 Krock Edgy1: duckduckgo doesn't update 20:56 tobag xD 20:57 Edgy1 fun 20:57 Krock new URL (since two months) https://krock-works.uk.to/minetest/modSearchAPI.php 20:57 Edgy1 Krock, any progress so far? 20:57 Edgy1 yeah i bookmarked that 20:57 Krock sent a request to change it three times now 20:57 Krock I guess they're deaf 20:57 tobag edgy1 its me bagey 20:58 Edgy1 i know 20:58 Edgy1 tobag, u cant follow instructions too well 21:00 Krock !mod 21:00 MinetestBot Krock: Too short search term. 21:00 Krock ^ was broken before. eh. fixed now 21:07 tobag ...... 21:08 tobag :o 21:59 tobag ..... 22:10 tobag yes ^-^ 22:13 paramat lol MT dev makes children cry ;) 22:14 tobag ... 22:15 paramat tobag please stop spamming 22:17 tobag oml 22:19 paramat !tell p_gimeno that's somewhat ok for caverns but 'rooms' is a bad word. to distinguish from smaller caves maybe describe the size of the caverns as being hundreds of nodes? 22:19 MinetestBot paramat: yeah, sure, whatever 22:20 paramat otherwise you might be temp banned, last warning 22:20 tobag who? 22:21 ChimneySwift you 22:22 tobag me? 22:23 ChimneySwift yes 22:23 tobag ? 22:24 ChimneySwift how hard is it to comprehend >.> 22:26 tobag >_< 22:27 tobag i'm new to irc. 22:32 rubenwardy this isn't an IRC thing, it's a not being annoying thing 22:33 tobag huh? 22:33 paramat no excuse, you've been sh*tposting for 2 hours now 22:34 paramat please temp ban them 22:34 tobag why 22:35 tobag and be nice 22:35 paramat lol lit's like a poorly programmed spambot 22:35 ChimneySwift just look a couple messages up and you'll find out why 22:38 tobag_ :/ 22:38 paramat ^ temp ban 22:39 paramat please can someone give me the ability to OP myself? i'm often on IRC when others aren't 22:40 sfan5 why are you so obsessed with banning someone that apparently doesn't know better themselves? 22:41 tobag_ im just a new player. jeez 22:41 paramat temp banning, not obsessed. why are you defending them so strongly? see logs 22:41 rubenwardy you already have OP in this channel, paramat, if you knew how to IRC 22:41 rubenwardy :) 22:42 tobag_ im a new player abd now you hate me wow 22:42 tobag_ and* 22:42 paramat the messages are so meaningless it's beyond forgivable 22:42 longerstaff13 tobag_: maybe lose the attitude a little? 22:42 sfan5 paramat: the only thing I see in the logs is a confused newbie, maybe you can elaborate why you think this is a troll? 22:42 paramat ruben ok thanks 22:44 paramat i already have, it's intentional sh*tposting, even after polite requests, a warning and a kick 22:46 sfan5 it's honestly incomprehensible to me how you can assume intent so quickly when Minetest has a young audience, which often is prone to such behaviour 22:51 paramat it's borderline i know, but it went as bit too far, even after repeated requests. kick, returns, continues as before. however, i won't ask for temp ban now (it was only going to be a day) 22:54 paramat and note it was ruben who kicked, not me, maybe you should argue with ruben too 22:55 tobag Why should i 22:57 paramat and several others are annoyed by it too 22:58 paramat sh*tposting is not allowed, otherwise you are very welcome. and i don't hate you, just moderating the channel 23:05 paramat tobag if it helps, the channel rules are here https://www.minetest.net/irc/ 23:16 paramat oooh 23:19 McFeels hello guys 23:25 Hawk777 On the IRC rules page: “Webchat cannot be used on #minetest-dev.” Also on the IRC rules page: a link to #minetest-dev in Webchat. Maybe someone should remove that? 23:27 Hawk777 Although, the wiki version of the IRC rules says Webchat users can actually join the channel, just not talk. So, perhaps the text just needs clarifying.