Time  Nick            Message
00:48 stormchaser3000 does minetest 0.4.17.1 take any anti-unofficial client measures?
00:48 stormchaser3000 or does it break compatibility with these clients in any way?
01:02 paramat         no it's not possible. and no
01:03 paramat         even if we tried to add measures against unofficial clients, clients could easily be hacked to appear 'official'
01:05 paramat         we wouldn't break compatibility with unofficial clients because those are the majority of players
01:05 stormchaser3000 ok i was just wondering because many of the people who use the unofficial iOS client worldcraft are unable to join LoS. presumably after the change from my server box to Di3's server box
01:05 paramat         they use unofficial clients for good reason because the official one has been so bad until recently :)
01:06 stormchaser3000 and a change in ip address
01:06 stormchaser3000 yeah i like the new controls on 5.0.0
01:06 paramat         hm no idea why, nothing in 0.4.17 intends to do that
01:07 stormchaser3000 as i said. my guess is that worldcraft doesn't know about the new LoS ip address
01:08 stormchaser3000 worldcraft has a small, fixed-in-size server list
01:08 stormchaser3000 contianing 4 or 5 servers
01:16 paramat         ok. so these players report server not appearing in the list?
03:12 swift110        hey all
15:22 Andrey01        hi
15:24 Andrey01        sfan5, you told me i need minetest.serialize() inside player:get_string() and how i have understood i need to write then minetest.deserialize(), but it doesn`t work
15:24 Andrey01        for example
15:24 Andrey01        minetest.deserialize(player:get_meta():get_string(minetest.serialize(table))))
15:24 Andrey01        and it returns nil
15:25 Andrey01        not table
15:26 Andrey01        my code looks like entirely so: for disease_id, disease_params in pairs(minetest.deserialize(player:get_meta():get_string(minetest.serialize(active_diseases))))
15:27 Andrey01        why does it return ni lfor pairs()?
15:27 Andrey01        *nil
15:30 Krock           minetest.serialize(active_diseases) might return a table
15:30 Krock           so get_string returns nil
15:30 Krock           because it's not a string you gave it
15:30 Krock           nvm. it's erialize
15:30 Krock           get_string returns a string, but pairs() needs a table
15:31 Andrey01        but i wrote then still minetest.deserialize() that convert string to table and so pairs() gets table
15:32 sfan5           why are you using a serialized string as key
15:32 sfan5           that makes no sense
15:35 Andrey01        because i need to return table but as there is no like get_table() function, i try to return converted table to string and then convert it to table again
15:35 Andrey01        i don`t know how to do that the other way
15:38 sfan5           what
15:38 sfan5           if you want to save a table do meta:set_string("key", minetest.serialize(value))
15:39 sfan5           if you want to load a table do local value = minetest.deserialize(meta:get_string("key"))
15:49 LMD             Citing MT Forum User Lejo : "Is it possible to Switch from SRP mechanism to Legacy_Password, which is only hashed?"
15:49 Krock           First on GitHub, then forums and now IRC? Pls. Is the question still not answered?
15:50 Krock           that particular request is possible, but newer clients will by default list the servers as incompatible (bottom of the list)
15:50 Krock           that's because SRP is forced by default for safety reasons
15:53 sfan5           Krock: legacy passwords are implemented using the "new" auth mechanism?
15:53 sfan5           or is that just the password field in the old init packet?
16:00 swift110        hey guys
16:00 Krock           hmm, old passwords are also updated to the new SRP format
16:03 Krock           it seems that the network version is independent in the auth mechanism. it's just the packet that has changed to a more secure way after v25
16:08 LMD             yes and how can we get hash out of SRP ? Rubenwardy wrote something but I'm just don't get it : https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=47&t=20517&view=unread#p326153
16:27 rubenwardy      They're not hashing
16:27 rubenwardy      *hashes
16:27 rubenwardy      There's a Wikipedia diagram and lots of other resources
16:45 LMD             so could you make some tuto or so how to get pword/hashed pword outta MT ?
16:49 sfan5           LMD: that's impossible
16:49 LMD             Are you sure, sfan5
16:49 sfan5           yes
16:49 LMD             Source ?
16:49 sfan5           me
16:50 sfan5           because I know how the auth works
16:50 LMD             okay - where did ya get it from - wiki ?
16:50 LMD             oh - sad. bye
16:50 LMD             thanks for your replies
21:11 quater          Hi, how to set armor groups with register_entity ?