Time  Nick         Message
00:35 cafee__      Hey guys, what could cause strange positions of formspec elements? For example, table and field elements have same size and position, yet a table element  is shifted by around 0.2-3, also some elements have some kind of "padding", and never reach formspec borders even if coordinates are 0,0
00:42 Shara        cafee__: sadly this is just how formspecs are.
00:44 Shara        Lots of us dream of a better replacement
03:58 MinetestBot  02[git] 04paramat -> 03minetest/minetest: Lua_api.txt: Various minor improvements (#7560) 131aaee5b https://git.io/fNYPW (152018-07-16T03:57:44Z)
10:25 air          a chest with an item in it cant be broken, but spawns break particles and even breaks before reappearing. is it not possible to make a block that is immortal when can_dig() returns false?
10:26 sfan5        disable node dig prediction
10:26 sfan5        the client can't know if can_dig returns false in advances, so this is the only thing you can d
10:26 sfan5        do*
10:27 air          so not something a mod can do?
11:05 sfan5        air, disabling dig prediction is exactly what a mod could do
11:21 air          sfan5: for only its node or all nodes?
11:21 sfan5        per node
11:21 sfan5        well..
11:22 sfan5        for all chest nodes, but not for any others
11:23 air          google isnt finding any dig prediction, do you know what the function is called?
11:26 sfan5        !api
11:26 MinetestBot  Someone thinks you should read the API docs, please go to: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt
11:27 sfan5        look for node_dig_prediction
11:27 air          thank you
11:39 air          dig prediction was added to doors 17sep2017 and yet my copy of 0.4.17.1 doesn't have it???
11:40 air          11sep2017
11:40 sfan5        i don't think we've backported that
11:42 air          so master branch isnt used for releases?
11:44 sfan5        the master branch contains 5.0, but the last release was made in the 0.4.x series
11:45 air          ok
12:56 MinetestBot  02[git] 04ClobberXD -> 03minetest/minetest: Check if player exists on use of /privs (#7554) 13a0635f6 https://git.io/fNOGz (152018-07-16T12:55:03Z)
13:44 ManElevation heyaii does initial_stuff = still exist? did the setting got changed because its not working
13:45 ManElevation im on 4.17.1
13:49 Shara        From a really quick glance (so I might be wrong) you need to make sure you also set give_initial_stuff =
13:52 ManElevation ha i think its give_initial_stuff = true and then i what i did
13:53 Shara        I've never used the mod and can't test right now
13:54 ManElevation nah its good ill test it myself xD
13:55 Shara        I guess an explanation of how it's meant to be used in the readme was too much to expect as well.
14:07 rubenwardy   Minetest.conf
14:07 rubenwardy   .example
14:07 rubenwardy   :P
14:09 Shara        rubenwardy: still nice to have things in the readme for the actual mod
14:10 Shara        It's kind of silly that we don't do this
14:12 rubenwardy   Sure
18:17 LMD          I just wanted to tell you that I hate being misjudged.
18:18 LMD          This is supposed to be a clear statement by me that I did NOT do anything against MT, or MT Server Admins, such as rubenwardy.
18:19 LMD          I only had fun having some interesting discussions about hacking/cheating, and am still being seized for nothing.
18:20 LMD          I guess you know human rights are granting everybody the right of free speech.
18:21 LMD          Blaming me for arguing, and implying that I had bad intentions is not right, and I hope the ones which did so see their errors.
18:22 LMD          Have a good day. I did not know where else to write this.
18:23 LMD          It also is bad practice to judge me by what my brother does.
18:45 LMD          Think about what I just wrote. I am open to your opinions. Please try to keep your language simple; I'm not a native.