Time Nick Message 03:56 swift110-phone__ Hey 04:03 blaise hello 05:15 redneonglow hi 05:27 blaise hey 05:29 rdococ Hay 05:29 rdococ is for horsesâ„¢ 05:30 blaise I have no hay for your horsies 05:32 rdococ They're my horses now 05:32 rdococ oh wait 05:32 rdococ Do you have any Febreze? I just had a brain fartâ„¢ 05:32 blaise all out, sorry 05:33 * blaise hangs a cardboard pine tree on rdococs ear 05:33 blaise I sure wish the forums had a next and previous button to switch pages on thread 05:33 blaise :G 05:33 * rdococ turns into a car 05:47 IcyDiamond Hello 05:47 Player-2 hello 05:49 srifqi \o 05:50 * rdococ says yay 05:58 IcyDiamond !mod melterns 05:58 MinetestBot IcyDiamond: Melterns - Tinkers in Minetest [melterns] by IcyDiamond - https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=19916 05:58 IcyDiamond Yay 05:59 IcyDiamond MT is so light that while tweaking mods I launch multiple clients without realising it. 05:59 IcyDiamond Haha yes 06:01 blaise where can I find mbb's stuff for advtrains? 06:01 blaise I need the moar stuphs 06:02 blaise his site seems broken 06:15 hisforevr hi 06:52 IcyDiamond lol 07:10 IcyDiamond https://github.com/LunaSquee/melterns/tree/master/fluidity/textures this is not ok 07:10 IcyDiamond I think I should use the trick i use with the tools 07:10 IcyDiamond use [colorize or [multiply 07:10 IcyDiamond i'll think about that 07:11 IcyDiamond actually that might not work for some things 07:11 AlexYst Well ... This is stupid. I've been trying to connect to Freenode for a couple hours. All other Internet-related services have been functioning for me during that time. As soon as I try restarting my network connection though, Freenode starts functioning for me. 07:11 IcyDiamond lol 07:12 AlexYst So it's not that my Internet connection was down or anything like that. 07:12 IcyDiamond gateway/tor-sasl/yst 07:12 IcyDiamond theres your problem 07:12 IcyDiamond tor 07:12 AlexYst Tor isn't a problem, it's a solution. 07:13 IcyDiamond your network restart you did must've reset your circuit :P 07:13 AlexYst IcyDiamond: How could my circuit be the problem though when all other Internet services have been working for me? I've checked email, browsed the Web ... all over Tor. 07:14 IcyDiamond Hm 07:14 IcyDiamond Then idk 07:14 IcyDiamond :P 07:14 AlexYst Ha ha. Yeah, just odd. 07:15 IcyDiamond Maybe it was a fault in the exit node you were connected to 07:15 AlexYst For two hours? That'd be about twelve exit nodes with issues. 07:16 AlexYst All in a row. 07:16 IcyDiamond Ok then I'm clueless 07:16 IcyDiamond :D 07:16 AlexYst Ha ha. 07:16 AlexYst So what are we doing in here tonight? 07:17 AlexYst Or this morning? It's past midnight in my time zone. 07:20 IcyDiamond Hah it's 10 in the morning here 07:20 IcyDiamond I just pushed an update to the mod I'm working on 07:20 IcyDiamond Now I'm taking a walk 07:20 AlexYst Oh, nice. 07:20 * AlexYst checks the forum 07:21 IcyDiamond !mod melterns 07:21 AlexYst Walks are usually good. I don't get enough of those. 07:21 MinetestBot IcyDiamond: Melterns - Tinkers in Minetest [melterns] by IcyDiamond - https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=19916 07:21 AlexYst Oh, nice, that one. I knew I recognised your name. 07:21 IcyDiamond :D 07:21 AlexYst Your mod alerted me to some new capabilities of Minetest 0.5.0. 07:22 AlexYst I haven't run that beta(?) yet, but I'm excited. 07:22 AlexYst It looks like we can do some pretty cool stuff, and you're getting a jump start on that. 07:25 IcyDiamond :) 07:29 IcyDiamond I got into minetest modding quite recently and this channel and rubenwardy's prettified lua_api.txt has helped me a bunch 07:32 AlexYst Welcome to the community then! 07:33 AlexYst Maybe I should look through rubenwardy's guide as well. I'm currently trying to deal with creative block, so maybe something there will spark something for me. 07:34 IcyDiamond :) 07:34 AlexYst I've got a project I've tried repeatedly to complete. Four times the project has collapsed on me because it's just too involved. 07:34 IcyDiamond haha 07:34 AlexYst Basically, it involves a small inventory you can put any item into. 07:34 AlexYst You get bonus abilities based on what items you choose. 07:35 IcyDiamond cool 07:35 AlexYst That means I need to come up with a unique ability for *each and every* item in Minetest. 07:35 AlexYst It's too much! 07:35 IcyDiamond haha yeah 07:36 AlexYst I think with my new plan though, I'm closer than I've been. I'm working on a proof-of-concept version that'll support mostly only the oldest Minetest items, then I'll work my way up through the versions to the present day. 07:37 IcyDiamond alrighty 08:00 IcyDiamond where's the node in "singlenode" generator 08:01 IcyDiamond its just a void world 08:26 IcyDiamond https://github.com/LunaSquee/melterns/blob/master/screenshot.png new screenshot 08:40 rubenwardy IcyDiamond: everything is the same name 08:40 IcyDiamond huh? 08:40 rubenwardy You can change by registering an alias called "singlenode" 08:41 rubenwardy *node, not name 08:41 IcyDiamond you mean.. it defaults to air? 08:41 rubenwardy Yeah 08:41 IcyDiamond aha okay 08:43 blaise zomfg insane downloads of media with skybox wtfbbq 08:43 IcyDiamond lol 09:00 IcyDiamond WOO! I successfully made the tanks keep their liquid when broken 09:00 IcyDiamond preserve_metadata callback is great 09:04 IcyDiamond it's a shame glasslikeliquidlevel doesnt render in the inventory though 09:12 IcyDiamond :o items with the same metadata stack 09:12 IcyDiamond That's awesome! 09:12 IcyDiamond I love minetest 09:38 IcyDiamond I might end up splitting fluidity from the melterns pack because it could be used for other things too 09:39 IcyDiamond Might even add fluid piping 09:39 IcyDiamond I'll see about that 09:50 IcyDiamond https://github.com/raoulvdberge/refinedstorage This has got to be a mod that I'll be porting 09:50 IcyDiamond XD 09:50 IcyDiamond Refined Storage in minetest would be a blessing 09:51 IcyDiamond Maybe instead of disk drives I'd use nodes with a large inventory 09:51 IcyDiamond Because as far as I know there's no good way to store itemstacks in the metadata of an item 09:52 IcyDiamond xD 09:53 AlexYst IcyDiamond: I'm not sure how it's done, but there currently exist mods that store inventories in the metadata of other items. 09:53 IcyDiamond Hmm 09:53 AlexYst Is it done well? Not sure. 09:54 IcyDiamond I'll explore it 09:59 AlexYst Hmm. I'm searching the forum, but I'm not seeing the mod type I mean. I don't recall what any of them were named. 10:04 IcyDiamond https://github.com/LunaSquee/storagetest repo created 10:04 IcyDiamond now i can go think about how to do things 10:15 AlexYst IcyDiamond: This mod seems to do it, but I haven't looked at the code to see how: . 10:15 IcyDiamond aha, okay, cool 10:16 IcyDiamond I'm just making base nodes atm 10:16 IcyDiamond making textures 10:18 AlexYst I think I'm going to clean some stuff, then take a bubble bath and try to clear my head. I'm only two ideas away from completing the subsection I've been trying to finish for a few days. 10:19 AlexYst Good luck with your nodes! 10:19 IcyDiamond :) 10:45 rubenwardy Stack:to_string() 10:45 rubenwardy Or stack:to_table() then json encoded 10:46 rubenwardy Former is better if it exists though 10:46 rubenwardy IcyDiamond: 10:46 IcyDiamond Nice 10:58 IcyDiamond https://i.lunasqu.ee/Screenshot_18-04-07-13:58:14.png here's some nodes 10:59 IcyDiamond from l->r controller, grid, crafting grid, cable and disk drive 11:15 AlexYst Ugh. The only thing I came up with during my soak was that I need to support less items in my proof-of-concept build. I've dropped the support list to 32 items. This first build's going to suck, game-play-wise, but I guess that's why it's a proof-of-concept and not a full release. 11:15 IcyDiamond XD 11:30 IcyDiamond I have no idea how to network these things together tho 14:14 JDCodeIt Hi all, I'm having trouble with irc #minetest-hub - says cannot send to channel. There's a secret to this? 14:17 rubenwardy you need to be voiced 14:17 rubenwardy see hub.minetest.net 14:19 JDCodeIt OK, kinda new at irc, so I'll try to figure it out... 15:03 Glorfindel hey all, trying to set up a server here. minetest starts fine, but says it's listening on 0.0.0.0:30000... and I am unable to connect to it, with an error of server timed out. how do I get it to listen on the actual ip address of my vps's public ip? I have added a firewall exception and port forward 15:04 rubenwardy it will be 15:04 rubenwardy 0.0.0.0 means it listens on all addresses, which includes the public IP 15:04 rubenwardy make sure you've unblocked the UDP port properly 15:04 rubenwardy also, you don't need to port forward with vpses 15:05 rubenwardy also, try ufw reload if you use that. Can't remember if that's needed 15:05 Glorfindel ok, they must have just had it worded oddly in the online config 15:05 rubenwardy also, try !up 15:05 rubenwardy !up 142.4.209.73 30000 15:05 MinetestBot 142.4.209.73:30000 is up (97ms) 15:05 rubenwardy !up ctf.rubenwardy.com 30000 15:05 MinetestBot ctf.rubenwardy.com:30000 is up (91ms) 15:05 Glorfindel ufw reload in the minetest console? 15:06 rubenwardy :) 15:06 rubenwardy no, in the terminal 15:06 rubenwardy you obviously don't use ufw though 15:06 rubenwardy if you don't know what that means :) 15:07 Glorfindel nope, I don't know what firewall 1and1 uses 15:07 Glorfindel or if it's actually a firewall -_- 15:07 rubenwardy ew, 1and1 ;) 15:07 Glorfindel !up 198.71.63.94:30000 15:07 MinetestBot Glorfindel: use 'example.org 1337' instead of 'example.org:1337' 15:07 Glorfindel !up 198.71.63.94 30000 15:07 MinetestBot 198.71.63.94:30000 seems to be down 15:08 Glorfindel hm, I'll double check the firewallthing 15:09 rubenwardy That's an internal IP 15:09 rubenwardy Wait 15:09 rubenwardy Nevermind 15:10 Glorfindel oh. I'm a dummy 15:10 Glorfindel I created a new firewall policy to allow minetest but then didn't choose to use that one instead of the default 15:11 Glorfindel I'll add minetest to the default instead so I am still able to ssh into the vps lol 15:11 Glorfindel !up 198.71.63.94 30000 15:11 MinetestBot 198.71.63.94:30000 seems to be down 15:13 Glorfindel !up 198.71.63.94 30000 15:13 MinetestBot 198.71.63.94:30000 is up (108ms) 15:13 Glorfindel sweeeet 15:13 Glorfindel thanks rubenwardy XD 15:21 Krock Glorfindel, ->> freedns.afraid.org 15:23 Glorfindel Krock: would you recommend freedns over duckdns? 15:24 Krock I don't know about duckdns but seen it in some places already.. it's up to you, I guess :) 15:26 Glorfindel 'k, thanks 15:26 rubenwardy Domain names are cheap 15:26 Krock for me freedns feels more like "Let's set up some temporary hobby server for lols", whereas duckdns provides you a good API 15:26 rubenwardy Wayyyyyyy cheaper than a vps 15:27 Glorfindel rubenwardy: the only thing that would make me host a server on my home connection is if I wanted to really really make people made with lag that wasn't from *their* connection 15:27 Krock surely it depends on how serious business you want to do - or if you want to spend money in refreshing the domain yearly 15:27 rubenwardy ???? 15:27 IcyDiamond Ok so I used the same networking technique as technic does 15:28 Krock !!!! 15:28 rubenwardy I'm not saying don't use a VPS 15:28 rubenwardy I'm saying the price of a proper domain name is negligible compared to the price of a VPS 15:28 Glorfindel brb 15:28 Glorfindel ohh, right 15:28 Krock *nods* 15:29 IcyDiamond https://github.com/LunaSquee/storagetest 15:29 IcyDiamond new mod in progress 15:29 IcyDiamond ayy 15:30 rubenwardy Maybe not negligible, but pretty low 15:31 IcyDiamond https://i.lunasqu.ee/minetest-2018-04-07_18.29.41.webm crap quality but you can see the progress im at 15:31 IcyDiamond XD 15:35 Krock oh god! it blinks. > instant karma 15:47 fridolin hello! i have an question: how i can insert an group e.g. all of sand in an Crafting recipe ? 15:49 Krock group:sand 15:49 Krock if you're trying to craft such an item, just put default:sand or anything other that fits into that group 15:49 Krock some inventory mods allow searching for those items 15:50 fridolin thanks 15:50 fridolin yes i have it writing not correct in the code lol :D 16:01 Glorfindel lnot4u 16:01 Glorfindel oops 18:37 IcyDiamond Boi my mod is at 5 stars 18:37 IcyDiamond Thats a bit more than some mods in minetest-mods 18:37 IcyDiamond XD 18:38 IcyDiamond I'll "release" it when 0.5 becomes stable 18:38 IcyDiamond Might be a while 18:38 IcyDiamond :p 18:40 xerox123 I was told June, as an ETA for 0.5 18:41 rubenwardy Being in minetest-mods doesn't really mean anything 18:41 rubenwardy 90% of my mods aren't 19:00 rdococ IcyDiamond: only five stars? it should be twelve by now 19:00 rdococ or maybe three hundred 19:00 Krock over 9000 19:00 rdococ oh, wait, I was confused, I thought he was referring to a 5 star rating system for a second 19:01 rdococ I often forget to star/like/thumbs up things 19:01 rdococ and sometimes I remember and go "meh" 19:04 IcyDiamond Lol 19:06 rdococ wtf? Minetest seems to be treating melterns' mods' optional dependencies as required ones, refusing to load those mods unless I add their *optional* dependencies 19:08 rdococ interesting, the problem was I was enabling pipeworks without mesecons which appears to be a required dependency of at least the version I have 19:08 IcyDiamond Lol 19:08 rdococ Minetest dependency resolution bug? 19:09 IcyDiamond I'm pretty stumped with the refined storage inspired mod 19:09 IcyDiamond I don't know how to efficiently store thousands of items in metadata 19:10 IcyDiamond Maybe I should use a separate database or something 19:10 rdococ why do you need to store thousands of things in metadata? 19:11 IcyDiamond Where do I store them then 19:11 Cornelia A file on the system. 19:11 rdococ why do you need to store thousands of things? 19:11 IcyDiamond That's the point of the mod 19:11 IcyDiamond Mass storage 19:12 rdococ ah, you're creating a mass storage mod...? 19:12 IcyDiamond Oh, sorry, I forgot this is not a mc modding community 19:13 IcyDiamond XD 19:13 IcyDiamond But yes 19:13 IcyDiamond That a it 19:13 IcyDiamond I think I'm going to have to go the database approach 19:14 IcyDiamond Is there like a sqlite lib or smth 19:14 IcyDiamond And can you do it per-world 19:14 IcyDiamond XD 19:14 Cornelia Maybe.. but I think you can easily write tables to files 19:14 Cornelia There's a function in the API to do so 19:15 IcyDiamond Cool 19:15 Cornelia So you could just have a table that tracks that info and you write it out regularly and on world shutdown 19:15 IcyDiamond I'll look into it tomorrow 19:15 IcyDiamond Yeah 19:16 IcyDiamond I wonder how the mc mod does it 19:16 IcyDiamond Oh wait, it's open source 19:16 IcyDiamond I doubt they use metadata either 19:16 IcyDiamond Too lazy to dig into it atm 19:21 IcyDiamond But yeah, I could probably use a data file 19:28 Fixer IcyDiamond: we need refined storage analogue, yeah 19:28 IcyDiamond I'm on it :P 19:28 Fixer hope you succeed 19:29 IcyDiamond You can always contribute you know 19:29 IcyDiamond XD 19:29 Fixer to dumb for lua 19:29 IcyDiamond Really? 19:29 IcyDiamond Lua is very simple 19:29 Fixer i don't have a vibe for programming 19:29 IcyDiamond Okay 19:32 IcyDiamond But yeah I'll try do my best with it 19:33 IcyDiamond It'll always be open source so someone can continue with it if I fail 19:33 IcyDiamond XD 19:38 JDCodeIt I think areas mod has an example of read and write tables on startup and shutdown 19:39 rdococ what, there are mods that allow ores to grow on trees 19:39 Fixer debian linux https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DZ3eDpNX4AAOklZ.jpg:large 19:43 rdococ Chicken Linuxâ„¢ 19:44 IcyDiamond rdococ: lol what 19:44 rdococ it's an anomalous, proprietary OS that runs on Linux and is made in a universe where proprietary has the opposite meaning, however it is marketed for this universe, but nobody is sure if it's proprietary or not 19:50 Cornelia Lolol 20:11 Krock Fixer, the chicken on the right side: "btw I use arch" 20:11 Fixer manjaro linux (tm) 20:13 Out`Of`Control Debian Unstable 20:14 IcyDiamond I use arch as well 20:14 rdococ Paprika desktop environmentâ„¢ 20:15 rubenwardy I was thinking about trying arch 20:15 rubenwardy But I don't want 20:15 rubenwardy A) a neck beard 20:15 rubenwardy B) involuntary compulsions to talk 20:15 rubenwardy So, Ubuntu for now 20:15 Out`Of`Control lol 20:15 sfan5 >liking outdated software 20:16 rubenwardy I hate outdated software 20:16 rubenwardy I hate ubuntu 20:16 Out`Of`Control what about unity? 20:17 Krock unity is love, unity is ..go away, we've got better 20:17 rubenwardy All softwares called unity are buggy, crazy, and terrible 20:17 Out`Of`Control xD 20:17 rubenwardy And over used 20:17 IcyDiamond I like shaving any beard I get 20:17 rubenwardy But it's good for the noobs I guess 20:18 rubenwardy I use xfce anyway 20:18 IcyDiamond Same 20:32 Fixer rubenwardy: try manjaro (arch made easier) 20:42 Krock no need to use manjaro to enjoy xfce 20:55 * sofar whispers clearlinux 20:55 sofar [DISCLAIMER: PAID ADVERTISEMENT] 20:58 blaise wtf? 20:59 blaise I has the problem.. 20:59 blaise I can't destroy a subway car 20:59 blaise it's one of the original yellow pos's 21:00 blaise also, I have a lot of people asking me about minetest-0.5.0 21:00 blaise should we still be using 0.4.17 with backport-0.4 ? 21:00 blaise or should we bump up to 0.5.0 ? 21:01 * blaise pokes sofar 21:01 sofar 0.5.0 doesn't exist, it's not finished nor stable 21:01 sofar so you should not be forcing your users to use it imho 21:01 blaise well, I keep telling people that, but n00bs keep asking me questions about it in here 21:02 blaise I myself am using 0.4.17 with backport-0.4 21:03 blaise I feel like something noticable should inform these morons to stop using 0.5.0 till it's ready 21:03 * blaise tips his hat to paramat 21:06 blaise sofar: if I bump mesa and llvm, do I need to recompile irrlicht against the new stuff and then recompile minetest? 21:09 blaise meh, I'ma just recompile them anyway just in case 21:10 blaise been noticing some severe instability since I updated mesa and llvm while playing minetest 21:10 blaise gotta love the new llvm-6 XD 21:11 MinetestBot 02[git] 04paramat -> 03minetest/minetest: Biome API / dungeons: Add biome-defined dungeon nodes 13746ca41 https://git.io/vxQmQ (152018-04-07T21:09:54Z) 21:16 rdococ blaise: aw, but 0.5.0 is fun :c 21:16 rdococ well, 0.5.0-dev anyway 21:17 blaise sure, but it's not stable.. 21:17 sofar unless there's a major opengl API change in mesa, you don't need to recompile irrlicht 21:17 Markow I'm enjoying Minetest 0.5.0-dev-7e3f88f (Linux) immensely! It even seems to run faster than previous versions, which is great for me. 21:18 blaise Markow: sofar says no. no soup for yoou. 21:18 Markow So far, all mods I'm using are functioning well 21:18 Markow lol, I didn't realize I said "so far" ,lol ! 21:18 Markow And that it's a nick 21:19 sofar that's not the point. If all your players are using 0.5.0-dev builds, I don't see a reason to not update to it on the server 21:19 sofar but if it's only a few... you're forcing everyone to update to an unstable development build 21:19 sofar or they'll play on a different server 21:19 sofar your choice, of course 21:21 blaise yeah, I'll just stick with 0.4.17 with the packborts 0.4 fixupers 21:21 blaise we can always just use the 0.5.0 client to test and play 21:22 blaise but public announcing servers should probably stay away from 0.5.x till it's some kind of confident.. 21:23 blaise I honestly havn't even checked it out yet 21:23 Shara It's really the choice of the server owner. Personally I'd stay away from it until it's stable, but some people might want to start using those features already and not mind if it means fewer players. 21:25 Markow I already found some empty, moss-stone dungeons in the biomes. A pleasant surprise. Even had chest(s) filled with some goodies. 21:59 longerstaff13 hi, is there a Minetest 0.5.0-dev for Windows? 22:02 paramat i think so but not a recent one 22:03 longerstaff13 hm 22:03 Shara Easier way to get recent version on Windows would be... good. 22:03 longerstaff13 a friend of mine is hosting a 0.5.0-dev server and I have 0.4.16 22:03 longerstaff13 stable* 22:04 longerstaff13 0.4.16-stable* 22:04 Shara longerstaff13: check sfan5's builds. There's a topic on the forum. 22:05 * longerstaff13 looks 22:05 Shara Sadly he does not seem to be updating them often anymore, but maybe it will do. 22:06 longerstaff13 found maybe the latest 22:07 longerstaff13 hey CBugDCoder 22:07 CBugDCoder hi longer 22:23 * [k00l]shamoanjac farts 22:24 blaise so, I couldn't get rid of one of the old subway rail cars.. I tried digging the tracks out from under it, I tried driving it off a cliff, all kinds of stuff 22:25 blaise I ended up driving it to a dead rail line, disconnecting it from the rest of the rail system, and burying it there 22:26 blaise the whole reason I was getting rid of the yellow subway cars was to change over to a new S7 subway car that I nabbed .. it's very nice.. actually has an interior.. 22:27 blaise it seems to be a bit harder to stop though, so I'm going to have to move my atc command strips for the stations 22:29 ashtrayoz2 For devs: #7224 is ready for review. Should be trivial - logic inversion bug. 22:38 paramat wow a feature i was unaware of 22:38 paramat thanks for that 22:45 ashtrayoz2 Most welcome, paramat. 22:56 blaise lol 23:49 rdococ Idea: Minetest Ultra Hardcore 23:52 Glorfindel how does one grant users privs (server)? 23:52 Glorfindel I can't grant myself the privs due to not having any 23:53 sfan5 edit auth.txt 23:54 Glorfindel ah, thanks 23:56 Glorfindel those numbers at the end, are those the position of the player? 23:58 sfan5 no