Time  Nick         Message
02:09 __vy         starting the fun of parsing the MT packets, `nom` is turning out to be interesting
02:09 __vy         https://github.com/andrewvy/knot/commit/46d6f1a34c9cd307f7d40d28f412c6de4e25849a
02:59 riff-IRC     Night, y'all.
03:45 MinetestBot  02[git] 04paramat -> 03minetest/minetest: Mgfractal / chunksize: Improve documentation 1315bafa6 https://git.io/vxGhN (152018-03-20T03:41:39Z)
03:45 MinetestBot  02[git] 04paramat -> 03minetest/minetest: Lua_api.txt: Fix hardware colouring documentation 1368c6494 https://git.io/vxGhA (152018-03-20T03:41:31Z)
05:58 hisforever   Hi I need help . Whe I put a mod in the mods forder, and get into minetest and configure the mods. Tjen I try loging on but I get a message like this. Folder not found. I put mods in home/hisforever/.minetest/ mods . Please help if possible?
06:00 hisforever   dose anyone have the url for pastig debug.txt in here?
16:33 Edgy1        hey everyone
16:34 Edgy1        can someone help me with compiling minetest 0.4.17 from github? i select the Minetest-0.4 branch every time then i compile and get 0.5
16:37 Edgy1        on tags i only see 0.4.16 as the latest 0.4
16:41 sfan5        Edgy1: select the "backport-0.4" branch
16:42 Edgy1        ok thank you sfan5
16:55 Edgy1        thanks sfan5 that worked :)
16:55 * Edgy1      gives sfan5 a cup of coffee
17:18 justauser    Is celeron on by chance
17:28 justauser    Does anyone even use this
17:29 Edgy1        ¿?
17:34 sofar        justauser: your questions are inactionable
17:34 sofar        if you need to ask a person something, ask the person
17:34 sofar        asking if people use IRC or a channel with 173 people in it ... also ... really?
17:35 sofar        and less than 15 minutes ago people had a meaningful conversation?!
17:36 sofar        ok 30 minutes if you're pedantic
17:37 justauser    Well everything I put in just gets ignored I have a genuine issue and I can't get a hold of a admin.
17:37 sofar        ok
17:38 sofar        let me teach you a lesson
17:38 sofar        IRC isn't a place with a bell that you ring
17:38 sofar        you're not at your bank
17:38 justauser    I know
17:38 Shara        justauser: maybe trying asking the question /stating your issue instead of asking if people are here
17:39 sofar        you obviously don't know, you still haven't asked your question or explained your problem
17:39 sofar        ...
17:39 justauser    OK I have a account on the forums and I forgot the username is there a way to recover it
17:39 * sofar      claps
17:39 sofar        yay! we now understand your issue!
17:40 sofar        sorry, I apologize for the sarcasm
17:40 justauser    Lol
17:40 sofar        isn't there an email password reset method?
17:41 sofar        https://forum.minetest.net/ucp.php?mode=sendpassword
17:41 justauser    Yep but it want a username to do that and that's for the password
17:41 sofar        you don't remember the username, k
17:42 sofar        when did you register it?
17:42 justauser    Not sure
17:42 sofar        closest bet? month?
17:42 sofar        what do you think it was?
17:42 justauser    Back in 2016 I hope
17:43 twoelk       did you write a lot?
17:43 sofar        any idea what the username looked like?
17:43 sofar        how many posts? that may indeed also help finding the username
17:44 sofar        do you remember the email address used?
17:44 justauser    Don't' think I made apost
17:44 justauser    Yes
17:44 sofar        PM it to me
17:44 twoelk       sadly the zero post group is the largest :-(
17:44 Shara        If you have never posted and don't remember the name, why not just make a new account?
17:44 justauser    OK how do I on on here
17:44 justauser    Pm
17:45 sofar        type: /msg sofar **stuff**
17:45 justauser    Ok
17:45 justauser    There
17:49 twoelk       you could search a little over there yourself -> https://forum.minetest.net/memberlist.php?sk=c&sd=a&start=9660
17:56 sofar        !next
17:56 MinetestBot  Another satisfied customer. Next!
17:56 sofar        we've found his old username
17:57 twoelk       :-)
18:39 juli         hi can anybody say me whether it is possible to place an item image on hud, like for a formspec?
18:39 juli         for formspec there is item_image(_button) to do this
18:50 Edgy1        !help
18:50 MinetestBot  https://github.com/sfan5/minetestbot-modules/blob/master/COMMANDS.md
18:52 Edgy1        !search name:linuxworks
18:53 Edgy1        forget me!
18:53 Edgy1        !server name:linuxworks
18:53 MinetestBot  Edgy1: LINUXWORKS NEXT GENERATION | www.linux-works.de:30001 | Clients: 8/15, 6/10 | Version: 0.4.17 / minetest | Ping: 21ms
18:53 Edgy1        !server name:survivalworks
18:53 MinetestBot  Edgy1: Survivalworks Minetest Server | survivalworks.ddns.net | Clients: 0/99, 0/0 | Version: 0.4.17-dev / minetest | Ping: 107ms
18:53 Edgy1        cool
18:55 rubenwardy   !server players:most
18:55 MinetestBot  rubenwardy: Survival X | 192.187.97.34 | Clients: 39/96, 37/64 | Version: 0.4.16 / minetest | Ping: 104ms
18:55 rubenwardy   !server random
18:55 MinetestBot  rubenwardy: MINETEST ITALIA | minetestitalia.tk | Clients: 11/99, 4/16 | Version: 0.4.16 / minetest_italia | Ping: 11ms
18:55 Edgy1        oh hey rubenwardy  :)
18:55 rubenwardy   o/
18:55 * Edgy1      stands in the presence of the mighty one
18:56 Edgy1        lol
19:00 ThomasMonroe hi rubenwardy
19:02 Edgy1        hiiii TMcSquared  :P
19:04 sofar        !server puzzle
19:04 MinetestBot  sofar: No results
19:04 sofar        !server inside
19:04 MinetestBot  sofar: Inside the Box | minetest.foo-projects.org:30394 | Clients: 2/25, 0/2 | Version: 0.4.16 / insidethebox | Ping: 167ms
19:05 sfan5        !server ping:most
19:05 MinetestBot  sfan5: [JP] Japan Survival Server(Testing) | 133.242.161.27:30003 | Clients: 0/20, 1/7 | Version: 0.4.16-dev / minetest | Ping: 274ms
19:06 sofar        yeah, that makes sense
19:06 sofar        maybe I should host a second ITB server in the EU
19:07 sfan5        ping doesn't hurt your ranking if it's below 400ms
19:07 Edgy1        !server ping:least
19:07 MinetestBot  Edgy1: Zulu Land | 45.32.185.166 | Clients: 0/15, 0/4 | Version: 0.4.16 / minetest | Ping: 1ms
19:08 Edgy1        TMcSquared, thanks for inviting me here lolz
19:08 sofar        Edgy1: ping is from the serverlist, not from player, to server
19:08 Edgy1        sofar, ik :P
19:10 rubenwardy   sofar, my server is in Canada
19:10 TMcSquared   !server ping:most
19:10 MinetestBot  TMcSquared: The Darkside | darkside.zapto.org:30003 | Clients: 0/13, 0/0 | Version: 0.4.13-dev / minetest | Ping: 390ms
19:10 rubenwardy   !server capture
19:10 MinetestBot  rubenwardy: Capture the Flag - Multiple Maps! | ctf.rubenwardy.com | Clients: 26/30, 26/29 | Version: 0.4.17-dev / capturetheflag | Ping: 90ms
19:10 rubenwardy   think it's just your server ;)
19:11 TMcSquared   oh, rubenwardy, I'm not sure why you think that CSI commenting might be harmful
19:11 TMcSquared   can you explain a little?
19:11 rubenwardy   adding comments with pseudo code increases how long the file is, and makes it harder to read
19:11 rubenwardy   it's bad practice imo
19:12 rubenwardy   the exception is explaining complex algorithms eg: light, in which case it's fine to show some psuedo code at the
19:12 rubenwardy   +top
19:12 TMcSquared   meh, I get where you're coming from, but, just to be sure, did you read the link?
19:12 rubenwardy   I did
19:12 TMcSquared   ok :)
19:12 rubenwardy   well, about 60
19:13 rubenwardy   +%
19:13 Edgy1        rubenwardy, are you ever going to improve the textures for food and food_sweet?
19:13 rubenwardy   just because someone wrote a lot of words doesn't mean it's good
19:13 rubenwardy   Edgy1, probably not
19:13 rubenwardy   the food_sweet textures are perfect, what are you talking about
19:13 rubenwardy   XD
19:13 Edgy1        loll i beg to differ :P
19:13 rubenwardy   :'(
19:14 Edgy1        rubenwardy, my friend dhausmig made an "extras" mod that has a bunch of extra food with really nice textures, i modified it bigtime so that the craft recipies for meat would use your food mod instead of mobs:meat
19:15 Edgy1        im using it in survivalworks atm
19:17 TMcSquared   rubenwardy, not sure where you got psuedo code comments from. O_o
19:18 rubenwardy   read it again, it means commenting in natural language rather than psuedo code
19:18 rubenwardy   so not as bad as I thought
19:18 TMcSquared   right
19:19 * Shara      would just be happy seeing more comments in general
19:19 TMcSquared   and also keeping it written in such a way that non-programmers *might* be able to understand what is going on at a certain location in the code
19:19 rubenwardy   non-programmers probably shouldn't be the target audience for code docs like that
19:20 TMcSquared   but...to be fair, CSI is NOT documentation
19:20 rubenwardy   code docs is still docs
19:20 rubenwardy   just not for end users
19:20 TMcSquared   exactly
19:20 TMcSquared   it deals with why the code is there, instead of what the code can do
19:21 TMcSquared   s/what/what and how/
19:22 TMcSquared   Shara, lol true
19:23 Shara        People who can't understand any code aren't the ones who need code comments.
19:23 rubenwardy   if it's not every line, then it's fine
19:23 Shara        People who can at least mostly read it when trying to, but would rather fewer headaches when trying to find bits they need... they could use comments.
19:24 rubenwardy   can't believe you'd question the food sweet textures, look at that lemon https://i.rubenwardy.com/ThXho.png
19:24 TMcSquared   yeah it doesn't have to be every line XD that'd be too overkill IMO
19:24 Shara        rubenwardy: stop making me think about cake!!
19:25 rubenwardy   2014
19:25 rubenwardy   wow
19:25 rubenwardy   that's 4 years ago
19:25 Shara        Oh, it's gone off then?
19:25 * Shara      won't eat it
19:25 TMcSquared   Shara, yeah, but if the non-programmers can at least get a gist of what the code does, then the programmers can definetly figure out why it's written that way :)
19:25 TMcSquared   O_O 4 year old cake O_o
19:25 TMcSquared   probably a bit stale
19:25 Shara        TMcSquared: sure, but they still shouldn't be the target audience
19:26 rubenwardy   0.4.10
19:26 TMcSquared   touche
19:26 rubenwardy   lots of changes since then
19:29 TMcSquared   rubenwardy, the guy who wrote that(CodeMouse92__)runs #C++-friendly if you want to talk to him about it. He can probably answer any questions about CSI better than I could. XD
19:29 rubenwardy   lol
19:29 TMcSquared   s/if/, if/
19:30 rubenwardy   tbh, I'm not sure why you'd think CSI is technologically competent
19:30 TMcSquared   wdym?
19:30 rubenwardy   !title https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_8ZH1Ggjk0
19:30 MinetestBot  rubenwardy: CSI Zoom Enhance - YouTube
19:30 TMcSquared   oh XD
19:30 rubenwardy   oh, mouse paw
19:31 rubenwardy   heh
19:31 TMcSquared   yeah, we're actually using PawLIB in Qub3d, surprisingly, it's faster than the standard libraries. :O
19:33 rubenwardy   I personally wouldn't use that
19:33 rubenwardy   I'd worry about maintenance and support
19:33 rubenwardy   there aren't many watchers on GH, which implies low interest
19:34 rubenwardy   not many contributors
19:34 TMcSquared   it's not developed on GH
19:34 rubenwardy   and there's always the possibility that the owner gives up on it
19:34 rubenwardy   where?
19:34 TMcSquared   phabricator
19:34 TMcSquared   it's own server
19:34 TMcSquared   kinda like what we're doing for Qub3d
19:34 rubenwardy   ewwwwww
19:34 rubenwardy   fucking gross, it has a CLA
19:34 TMcSquared   CLA?
19:34 sfan5        (((CLA)))
19:35 rubenwardy   huh, there's a contradiction
19:35 sofar        Contribute Limbs Agreement
19:35 rubenwardy   aaah,
19:35 rubenwardy   misread it
19:35 rubenwardy   contributor licensing agreement
19:36 rubenwardy   thought they said they'd own the copyright at first, but read it wrong
19:36 rubenwardy   instead they have the right to relicense to whatever they wish, providing it's an OS license
19:36 rubenwardy   can't find phabricator
19:37 TMcSquared   https://phab.qub3d.org is an example
19:37 TMcSquared   I'll find the pawlib one
19:37 juli         hi can anybody say me whether it is possible to place an item image on hud, like for a formspec?
19:37 juli         for formspec there is item_image(_button) to do this
19:38 TMcSquared   rubenwardy, https://phabricator.mousepawmedia.net/
19:38 rubenwardy   juli: no
19:38 rubenwardy   you can get images for most things
19:38 rubenwardy   but not for meshes
19:38 juli         hmm thats bad
19:39 rubenwardy   HUDs suck
19:39 juli         :) true
19:39 juli         but will it be replaced soon or not?
19:40 rubenwardy   TMcSquared, kinda bullshit to have to make an account just to check development state
19:41 Shara        Have to agree with that
19:41 sfan5        open source project on closed development platform
19:41 sfan5        🤔
19:41 rubenwardy   I give up
19:41 rubenwardy   development should be open
19:41 Shara        I lost any interest in even looking at qub3d when I saw that
19:42 TMcSquared   you should be able to see what's going on without an account, hmm
19:42 TMcSquared   I'll talk to Jason about that
19:42 rubenwardy   qub3d at least doesn't require and account
19:42 Shara        thought it did when I checked.
19:42 Fuchs        it doesn't
19:42 Fuchs        (just checked, because I am somewhat familiar with, ew, phabricator)
19:42 Shara        Hmm, maybe will look again sometime then
19:43 Fuchs        also phab is FOSS, with regards to an earlier comment on "closed plattform"
19:43 Fuchs        it's ugly, it's php, but it's FOSS
19:43 rubenwardy   it's closed in that you need to log in
19:43 TMcSquared   yeah I logged out and I can see pretty much everything
19:44 juli         u wanna change away from github?
19:44 rubenwardy   juli: no, Minetest won't be
19:45 TMcSquared   Shara: http://imgur.com/4LBJak6l.png
19:45 juli         kk
19:45 Fuchs        rubenwardy: only if stupidly conigured
19:45 rubenwardy   appears so
19:49 TMcSquared   meh, I like it better than GH
19:58 Fixer        "Future Windows updates will take longer to install, but it’ll feel quicker" okay
20:12 juli         lol the progressbar just finishes before the update is complete or? :D
23:06 Fixer        "No wonder foxcon employee are miserable... Can you imagine doing nothing but assembling obsoletebooks all day for shit pay?! You have to be a psychopath to even design that keyboard."