Time Nick Message 00:09 danSNDBX hey rubenwardy. you are riht the fps is a broblem :( my cpu strugles with the recording. I am not sure if speeding up is realy the best solution. I personaly like "slow" videos. If i am done with a part of the tutorial i just skip a few seconds and continue watching. 00:10 MaybeDragon I like watching tutorials at 1.5 to 2x speed; skipping = accidentally missing 00:15 Calinou danSNDBX: you need a decent machine for recording smooth videos, sorry :P 00:15 Calinou many people like 60 FPS videos today, which makes the problem worse 00:15 Calinou you can use GPU-based encoding if you have a dedicated graphics card 00:15 Calinou (OBS supports NVENC) 00:15 danSNDBX I use OBS 00:17 danSNDBX well... for your eye the difference between 30 and 60 fps is pretty small... - the vid is recorded with 30 fps, but it looks a lot less cause of CPU. It also changes during the video depending on for e.g. which direction I look at (and how many trees are in that direction) 00:18 Calinou it is not pretty small, it's pretty noticeable in faster games 00:18 swift110 Astrobe, ok me too 00:18 Calinou but it's noticeable even if looking at a slow game or a desktop screencastr 00:18 Calinou -r 00:18 Calinou see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XptlVErsL-o, which is available in qualities up to 1440p60 00:18 MaybeDragon I play in 30fps #potato-master-race 00:19 danSNDBX @maybedragon u can do that in your personal YT settings. Watching YT videos faster is actually very easy possible for everyone 00:19 MaybeDragon danSNDBX: yea, right, but only maximal 2x in the default youtube player 00:19 danSNDBX so i think makeing a slow vid is "ok" since everyone can watch it in 1.5x or2x speed with only two clicks 00:20 danSNDBX well, most people become sick at 16x :D 00:21 MaybeDragon If everyone is supposed to play it in 2x speed than the default is definitely too low 00:22 MaybeDragon Ahh, don't mind me; I normally don't watch building videos; irrelevant feedback 00:24 danSNDBX no, it helps a lot, thank you for your opinion! 00:25 danSNDBX I try to work on the FPS thing but i think i need a better machine :( 00:26 danSNDBX and i wrote down the speeding up thing. i am not sure about it (the video is only 4 mins at all) but i will keep it in mind. Maybe speeding up is something for bigger projects (longer videos) 00:42 MaybeDragon danSNDBX: You might also do both? Mainly do your videos in the speed you like; but also build small .gifs out of them in a very high time lapse? 00:44 danSNDBX maybedragon that sounds like an idea. but do you think it works to publish the sam vid in two different speeds? 00:46 MaybeDragon Idk; But if I'd watch lots of posts on FB (or whatever) I wouldn't stop to watch 4mins of building. But a 30s time lapse might make me interested in more 01:35 danSNDBX calinou thx for the link, but how can this help me with my fps problem? 01:58 Bloquito77 hi, somebody knows tats? 04:44 MinetestBot 02[git] 04paramat -> 03minetest/minetest: Lua_api.txt: Various improvements 1370a90bc https://git.io/vNcN0 (152018-01-15T04:42:14Z) 04:44 MinetestBot 02[git] 04paramat -> 03minetest/minetest: Mapgen folder: Update and improve copyright information of files 131424741 https://git.io/vNcNE (152018-01-15T04:42:08Z) 04:45 nepugia Damn, those colors look really bad on my client (contrast-wise) 06:19 jas_ np: https://soundcloud.com/charts/new?genre=drumbass&country=all-countries 08:11 jas_ !server decibel 08:11 MinetestBot jas_: No results 08:11 jas_ or if minetestbot could look in description for search query. i wonder if there's a different !command. 10:08 lumberJ hey danSNDBX 10:08 danSNDBX hi lumber 10:08 danSNDBX how are you today :)? 10:08 lumberJ pretty good, you? 10:10 lumberJ I was just about to sign off. i have a bit of work to do around here, but I figured I'd say hello on my way out. 10:10 danSNDBX a bit tired. still first drinkin coffee 10:10 lumberJ nice 10:10 lumberJ i've been up all night at work 10:10 danSNDBX *still drinkin first coffee 10:10 danSNDBX haha ok 10:10 danSNDBX today is my last day off 10:10 danSNDBX tomorrow i need to o back to office 10:11 lumberJ well, enjoy. 10:11 lumberJ maybe i'll catch you on a little later 10:11 danSNDBX so i want to do one more video today. cause i wont have time to do more till the weekend 10:11 danSNDBX thanx :) 10:11 lumberJ nice. Lupercus plugged your channel on my forum page 10:12 lumberJ not sure how much traffic we get there, but it won't hurt 10:12 lumberJ well have a good morning, and i'll see you later on 10:13 danSNDBX i got 2 clicks so far from the forum page :) (YT analytics says) 10:13 lumberJ nice, i think eee went to check it out 10:14 lumberJ check you later, dan 10:24 Aug-Top hello ! 11:16 yusf Can someone help with this issue? "Mod-loaded sound with same file name does not override" https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=47&t=19409 11:42 sfan5 yusf: there's no defined order for duplicate media files in mods 12:04 yusf sfan5: Alright. And by "media files" you mean audio and what else? 12:05 yusf Disregard the thing I wrote about textures, because without my clumsiness that part actually works. 14:46 danSNDBX uploading a minetest vid again. this time fps seems to be better :)! 15:52 danSNDBX my new minetest video is online, the fps should be better now :)! Please check it out: https://youtu.be/KK7QSb9MReE 16:04 jluc that's funny 16:13 danSNDBX u like it jluc :)? 16:50 jluc i showed it to my son :-) 16:51 danSNDBX cool, did he like it :)? 18:43 viaken Figuring out which mods to add is ...difficult. 18:44 viaken Like, what are the differences amongst the ~half dozen mods that add mobs/enemies. 18:45 viaken What's mesecons? technic? 18:45 viaken Just a lot out there. 18:47 Raven262 Well, you can ask about any mod here, viaken. 18:47 Shara viaken: maybe spend some time on servers using different mods to get an idea? 18:47 Shara It's often a quicker way to check mods in action than setting them up yourself 18:48 Raven262 Thats one way, but smart server owners won't use mods that don't require too much resources. 18:48 Raven262 Or many mods that together do. 18:48 Shara Raven262: of course not, but you can't start checking if mods you want are efficient until you know what mods you want 18:49 Raven262 Agreed. One gets much more ideas if they see what mods there are. 18:55 danSNDBX i actually prefer less mods. 18:55 danSNDBX dont get me wrong, there are a few realy amazing mods I enjoy 18:55 rubenwardy more mods the better! 18:56 danSNDBX but i feel like we didnt even reach the potential of the basic game instead we rush servers with a lot (of unfinished) mods 18:56 Shara danSNDBX: considering minetest_game really is just mods anyway... 18:57 rubenwardy servers end up making their own subgames essentially 18:57 rubenwardy imo, the power of Minetest isn't with mods 18:57 rubenwardy it's the subgames 18:57 danSNDBX @Shara :D 18:57 rubenwardy the ability to craft your own (hopefully) polished gaming experience 18:57 rubenwardy most mods will have some bugs that need fixing, which more server owners contributed the fixes back 18:57 danSNDBX well minetest is a field for creativity. even without mods 18:57 Shara I just want to see more official subgames :) 18:58 rubenwardy *wished 18:58 rubenwardy most existing subgames such a bit 18:58 viaken Shara: Raven262: Both good suggestions. Thanks. 18:58 Shara such? 18:58 rubenwardy MTG isn't polished and lacks content, but is stable 18:58 rubenwardy *suck 18:58 Shara MTG makes a (mostly) good base to develop on top off. 18:59 viaken danSNDBX: What specific mods do you enjoy? 18:59 Shara But by itself it's a quick road to boredom. 19:00 danSNDBX @viaken I like mods giving me more possibilities to build and farm 19:00 danSNDBX so i love the diversity of plants on some servers 19:01 danSNDBX and i think the saw is a pretty good idea to fix blocks in every shape u want them to have 19:04 danSNDBX but i also dont have too much experience with mods yet. so maybe i develope my opinion on this topic with the time. 19:05 Shara It also depends a lot on what kind of game you want to play 19:06 red-001 http://rot26.org/ 19:14 blaise I'm so tired of hearing about all the complaints about the alert in hawaii 19:14 blaise why can't they just be glad they're alive?! 19:17 danSNDBX @share the important thing about minetest for me is the constructiv aspect (most other games are in some way destructiv) 19:18 red-001 blaise, how would you like it if when you went to doctor, they thought it would be a great joke to tell you that you are going to die from some uncurable illness in a few months and let you freak out for a while before telling you, that it's only a joke and you should be glad it's not true? 19:18 red-001 to the* 19:18 blaise I think we should have drills. random drills.. 19:19 rubenwardy > @share 19:19 blaise but no, they can't be bothered with survival because they might kill themselves trying to stay alive... 19:19 rubenwardy almost 19:20 red-001 what is this @share 19:20 red-001 is that a new alt for Shara? 19:21 blaise red-001: I think they were talking to Shara 19:21 * Shara wants to knwo what happens if she doesn't feel like sharing 19:27 danSNDBX did someone build houses/things with walls like that yet? https://youtu.be/KK7QSb9MReE 19:28 Shara danSNDBX: I've seen people use wter for walls in all kinds of ways. 19:28 Krock lava walls are more interesting 19:30 Billre danSNDBX: it's sort of basic .. nothing new there 19:31 Shara Atfer a couple of years running servers, seeing something new is pretty rare 19:31 Shara I like it when I do come find something new though :) 19:32 danSNDBX @krock well most water alls also work with lave. in this case just replace the wooden traps with steel traps 19:32 danSNDBX @Share yeah. i try to find somethin new :D 19:33 Shara Nooo... don't you start that :D 19:33 Shara I only get alerts on "Shara", so I'm going to start missing messages if people call me anything else. :P 19:45 danSNDBX disconnect -.- 19:56 blaise hrmm 19:57 blaise finally got areas protection on my spawn location 19:57 blaise people sure are distructive....... 19:57 blaise atleast now I don't have to worry about it 19:58 blaise or, my servers spawn location that is 19:58 Shara blaise: which is your server? 20:06 blaise midnightsystems.net 20:06 Cornelia Wow.. 20:06 Cornelia That timer 20:06 blaise which timer? 20:06 Cornelia At the website. :P 20:06 Cornelia COMING SOON.. AND BY SOON WE MEAN IN MORE THAN 123 DAYS 20:06 blaise Oh yeah.. :D 20:07 blaise lmao 20:07 blaise it's an inside joke 20:08 blaise the minetest server on the other hand is very much alive and well 20:10 t20kdc the countdown code seems... https://www.w3schools.com/howto/tryit.asp?filename=tryhow_js_countdown 20:11 t20kdc how should I put it... 20:12 rubenwardy I feel like that level of suspense isn't needed for a .net domain 20:12 Cornelia :p 20:12 Cornelia Note to self: put random timers on my website that link to obscure holidays on wikipedia 20:13 danSNDBX lol 20:13 blaise it's honestly not for the domain 20:14 blaise it's for a specific person whom is greedy af, and watching the domain like an insane person.. 20:14 rubenwardy > may 19 20:14 blaise and they know exactly what that date and time means.. 20:14 rubenwardy this disgusts me 20:14 Cornelia Omg.. lol 20:14 blaise how come? 20:14 * rubenwardy goes away to make a cuppa to console himself 20:15 Cornelia Are you auto-renewing ? 20:15 blaise yeah, why? 20:15 rubenwardy ah, I know what that day is 20:15 rubenwardy "May 19 is the 139th day of the year in the Gregorian calendar. There are 226 days remaining until the end of the year." 20:15 t20kdc ...that's... 20:16 t20kdc kind of unspecific 20:16 blaise once the date is over I'll put something else up there 20:16 blaise but for the time being the countdown is there for a single individual whom is keeping my son from me. 20:16 Shara Seems your server has a lot of media... 20:17 blaise yeah, it's uber media bound 20:17 Shara I'll take a look round, if ever it lets me 20:17 blaise it will 20:17 rubenwardy why are there two full stops? 20:18 blaise two full stops? 20:18 rubenwardy like, either use a full stop, an ellipsis, or an ellipsis and a full stop 20:18 blaise in the html? 20:18 rubenwardy "Thank you for your patience.." 20:18 blaise Oh, that's just me... 20:18 blaise I do that..... 20:19 rubenwardy well, there shouldn't be any full stops really in that context 20:19 rubenwardy just a mild stress... 20:19 Shara So much media... but not so many pages of inventory... 20:19 blaise I'm rather suprised it was only two.. 20:19 rubenwardy abusing periods and fullstops stresses me... 20:19 rubenwardy idk why... 20:19 t20kdc 2, 3, 5, 3, 3, 3, 2, 3, 3! My goodness. It's a puzzle! 20:19 Cornelia I use double dot ellipses 20:20 Cornelia Or.. 20:20 blaise Shara: really? hrmmm....... 20:20 blaise I'll have to invesigate that at some point.. 20:20 Shara Hmm, you don't seem to want people leaving spawn either 20:20 Cornelia I use double dot ellipses.. when I'm inserting a non-grammatical pause in a sentence that doesn't commit to a full pause. :P 20:20 t20kdc (Or everybody's just choosing different dot amounts deliberately....) 20:20 blaise oh, no.. there are doors 20:20 blaise but there are mobs that can eat your soul 20:20 Cornelia ORLY.............. 20:21 rubenwardy guys, this is stressing me............... 20:21 * blaise hides.. 20:22 t20kdc That... um, is the convention that you don't use dots in a /me? ...Could someone clarify convention here? 20:22 Cornelia I was considering adding a chapter to the mod book.. looks like I know there's a convention I should avoid... :P 20:23 rubenwardy XD 20:24 rubenwardy I'm hoping to get the modding book done to a reasonable degree by this summer 20:25 rubenwardy would love to get it printed 20:25 Cornelia Neato! :O 20:25 Cornelia I've mainly used the modding book for the nicely formatted lua_api.txt :p 20:26 rubenwardy oh, that's good to hear 20:26 rubenwardy I don't actually use it because it takes ages to load 20:26 rubenwardy because the document is massive 20:26 rubenwardy and searching is still annoying 20:27 t20kdc Split it up? 20:27 Cornelia Ages to load? 20:31 Cornelia Writing FormSpec rendering code. :S 20:43 quater hi, I am trying to use core.request_insecure_environment but I have nil. I would like to use FFI. 20:48 t20kdc quater: I think you have to add your mod to a whitelist or something in the config, to get anything but nil. 20:48 quater I did it 20:49 quater secure.trusted_mods ? 20:53 t20kdc quater: that should be the right setting. when are you calling request_insecure_environment? 20:56 quater https://pastebin.com/f1ZdpZ0C 20:57 t20kdc ah, you're trying to request it from a CSM? 20:57 quater in test.lua: print('Hello world !') 20:57 quater yes 20:59 t20kdc request_insecure_environment isn't actually documented as a function available to CSM, apparently 21:15 quater I would like to use bitwise operations it is possible in lua5.2 with bit32 21:20 t20kdc Last time I checked, status on that was: "You basically have to try and autodetect Lua 5.3 or failing that use your own implementation of bitops." *sighs* 21:25 rubenwardy quater, the insecure environment isn't and won't ever be available to CSM 21:29 quater there is no way to use/load a external library, bit32 completed lua5.2 21:31 t20kdc The solution should probably be that Minetest should have a reliable bitops library in the first place... 21:31 t20kdc ...since even with bit32 access, mod devs need to handle 4 cases, including no native bit library at all. 21:32 t20kdc 1. Lua5.1 (no bit lib, AAAA), 2. Lua 5.2, 3. Lua 5.3, 4. LuaJIT 21:45 Cornelia Writing code to do formspec layout is so... Time consuming and error prone. :P 21:46 Cornelia I had good velocity on the project till I hit this point. :P 21:47 t20kdc slots are a weird unit to work with, because it's not actually slots, it's slots + spacing... 21:50 Cornelia *eyes narrow* 21:50 Cornelia I hope not.. 21:50 Cornelia Because I've added my own spacing... 21:52 t20kdc With my usual luck regarding formspec layout, I'll probably turn out to be wrong. 21:52 Cornelia No.. no.. 21:53 Cornelia It looks like you're right.. 21:53 Cornelia I'm using minetest-testbox to test random formspec code 21:54 Cornelia It could just be the "widgets" themselves add spacing.. 21:54 Cornelia I.e. image_button 21:55 Cornelia It looks like they do... 21:55 t20kdc Or it could be a mixture of both. Like, presumably a slot is a set amount of pixels, and the assumption is that you lay things out on a grid. 21:55 Cornelia Which is.. very... Disappointing.. 21:55 Cornelia Because the system I've been building up assumed that wasn't the case... 21:55 t20kdc So everything's spaced out to add margins. But then of course that leads to an awful mess, so you then have to remove those margins again... 21:55 Cornelia And I had to add the spacing myself if I wanted it. 21:56 Cornelia I'm about to put this formspec heavy mod on indefinite hiatus... 21:56 Cornelia As going back to restructure that formspec code does not feel like fun.. 21:57 t20kdc Well, how are you generating your formspecs? 21:57 Cornelia That or I may wait until the formspec replacement shows up.. O don't think I can handle this. :P 21:58 t20kdc ...there's a formspec replacement showing up? 21:58 Cornelia With a bunch of user supplied days. 21:58 Cornelia *data 21:58 Cornelia There's an issue on GitHub.. :p 21:58 Cornelia Dunno when it'll be closed. 21:58 t20kdc ...so it'll never happen. Got it. 21:58 Cornelia Heh. 22:14 Cornelia Welp.. 22:15 Cornelia Project definitely has to go on hiatus now.. 22:15 Cornelia Things aren't drawn in the order specified by the formspec string 22:15 Cornelia So layering things isn't gonna work.. 22:15 Cornelia NOICE 22:16 Cornelia But.. it's kinda fixable.. 22:19 Cornelia Yea.. gonna have to completely change how I'm approaching generating these formspecs. 22:22 sameyepatch hey guys, I am playing in creative mode and I sometimes need a full stack of some item, do you know how can I get it without having to leave cretive mode? 22:23 nepugia /give singleplayer itemname 99 22:23 nepugia assuming that the stack has 99 items anyway 22:25 sameyepatch do item names get separated by underscore or do I use quotes? 22:26 Shara mod_name:item_name 22:26 Astrobe Hi, I was hosting a game when some guy came and gave "Admin armor". Did I do something wrong? 22:27 sameyepatch thanks guys 22:28 Shara sameyepatch: if on computer, press f5 and check the text at the top of the screen to easily get item names 22:29 sameyepatch Shara: hm, F5 doesn't seem to work in my case 22:30 sameyepatch it says cannot give empty item, do I need to do something else? it's a tool (a pickaxe) so I think it only works with crafting materials? 22:31 Shara f5 would only give you the names of placed nodes, so yes 22:31 Shara You'll probably need to check the mod the item is in to find the name 22:33 sameyepatch okay, I'll check that out 22:33 sameyepatch thanks again 22:33 Shara No problem 22:37 Astrobe Maybe I should remove the /give priv. But I saw him go through a closed protected door. 22:48 Shara Astrobe: If you are running a server, you shouldn't really give the give priv to players 22:52 Astrobe It was set by default. I've removed it now. 22:53 Shara You should revoke it from any players who have it as well. 22:55 Astrobe When I saw the guy go through that protected door, I banned them then I shutdown the server a bit later. 22:55 Shara Well, that could have just been lag 22:57 Astrobe So no wall hack. 23:10 sameyepatch so, I found that the mod is the default one and the name is pick_steel for pickaxe, and the command does give me the pickaxe but it doesn't give me a stack of 99 23:10 sameyepatch I guess it only works with crafting materials only 23:12 Shara Well, you can't stack pickaxes normally 23:12 Shara If an item can't be stacked, you can't /give a stack of it 23:14 sameyepatch I see 23:14 sameyepatch welp, what a bummer xD 23:44 dagreatnate1 How many people here use Discord? 23:51 MaybeDragon 42? 23:53 dagreatnate1 ?