Time  Nick          Message
05:07 LJhonaiker    Alguien despierto?
05:07 bigfoot547    Hey LJhonaiker
05:07 LJhonaiker    DIme?
05:07 bigfoot547    Tu habla English?
05:07 LJhonaiker    No.
05:07 LJhonaiker    SPanish
05:08 bigfoot547    Ok
05:08 LJhonaiker    Que hacen??
05:09 bigfoot547    LJhonaiker: You should probably join #minetest-es where people can understand you
05:09 bigfoot547    ;)
05:09 LJhonaiker    Whats?
05:10 bigfoot547    O podría seguir usando translate.google.com :P
05:10 LJhonaiker    JAJAJAJAJA
05:10 LJhonaiker    Con razon :v
05:10 LJhonaiker    De donde eres??
05:11 bigfoot547    Soy de los Estados Unidos
05:12 LJhonaiker    Ahhh ok
05:12 LJhonaiker    MI alma Canaimas por alla ??
05:12 LJhonaiker    YO soy de Venezuela-Maracaibo
08:53 jordan4ibanez Does anyone know TrainwreckTony?
08:54 jordan4ibanez If so tell em the server crashes when you left click with an egg
09:59 MinetestBot   02[git] 04numberZero -> 03minetest/minetest: Fix dark liquids (#6621) 130780ee5 https://git.io/vF9XB (152017-11-18T09:57:22Z)
11:24 hisforever    Hi I have a Question . Where do I put the map.sqlight, I'm lost lol ?
11:24 Krock         correction: map.sqlite
11:25 Krock         put that one into a directory in your worlds/ directory
11:29 hisforever    ty Krock
11:35 hisforever    I downloaded a world. how Do I get it to show up on start up screen?
11:46 Krock         open worlds/the_world_you_just_downloaded/world.mt and check the setting "gameid" to see what game you need to run it
11:47 Krock         or simply look out what's specified on the page where you downloaded it
11:53 hisforever    ok Thanks Krock your a reat help
11:56 Krock         !next
11:56 MinetestBot   Another satisfied customer. Next!
13:58 MinetestBot   02[git] 04shivajiva101 -> 03minetest/minetest: Fix mousewheel behaviour in textarea (#6641) 133f8e2e8 https://git.io/vF97d (152017-11-18T13:58:08Z)
16:02 deltasquared  hmm, quick question for the devs, what is the in-game stack depth limit? just curious because I was testing it with an intentionally infinite recursing function with luacmd, and the stack overflow came back almost immediately.
16:02 deltasquared  I was under the impression that it was quite small, guess I could just write a thing to print it out as it goes
16:02 sfan5         i don't think we change the lua default
16:03 deltasquared  ... huh, it gets to 32,716 then bails
16:04 deltasquared  “32768 levels of nested function calls should be enough for anyone”
16:45 jas_          np: https://www.mixcloud.com/liondub/liondub-111517-koollondon-db-rollers-special/
18:17 Elronnd       lua has no tco?
18:17 Elronnd       lame
18:18 sfan5         tco?
18:19 deltasquared  Elronnd: what is this tco you speak of
18:21 Elronnd       tail call optimization
18:21 Elronnd       essentially, lets you recurse indefinitely
18:21 sfan5         it probably doesn't to provide accurate backtraces
18:23 Elronnd       no
18:23 Elronnd       but
18:23 Elronnd       it lets you recurse a ton!
18:23 deltasquared  hrm, in JIT mode yes it would be hard to keep track of invocation depth unless you had a separate thread local structure to track "fake stacks"
18:24 deltasquared  seeing as the whole point of TCO is to elide the stack frame of the just-finished function
20:31 GNU[BDC]      hi
20:31 GNU[BDC]      is it possible to delete user without restarting server?
20:34 sfan5         in theory yes
20:34 sfan5         but this functionality is not provided by default
20:35 sfan5         deletion is not even part of the auth api
20:36 GNU[BDC]      why not? its like must have for any server
20:37 Shara         Why's it a must have?
20:37 GNU[BDC]      so lets say someone create many clone accounts and i want delete them. I have to restart server earch time?
20:38 Shara         There's no real gain in deleting them one by one. Just wait until you'd restart anyway and bulk delete any accounts you know you don't want.
20:38 sfan5         the question why not is easily answered: whoever designed the API did not think of adding user deletion
20:38 GNU[BDC]      is there any ticket to add it?
20:39 sfan5         don't think so
20:39 GNU[BDC]      Shara: what tools you use to bulk delete
20:39 Shara         My approach probably won't help much, but I think some people have made scripts for it.
20:40 Shara         Hardest part is deciding what to delete based on.
20:40 GNU[BDC]      i have script, users that did not join in X time. Maybe there is a better way
20:40 Shara         I use a priv check on my main server. Any user that failed to get interact priv (and therefore didn't leave the start area) gets deleted.
20:40 GNU[BDC]      users with basic inventory
20:40 GNU[BDC]      Shara: i see
20:41 Shara         But if you give interact by default, that one won't help you.
20:42 Shara         At least 90% of players seem to fail to get interact, so it clears out most of the clutter quite nicely for me
20:43 Shara         After two years, I still haven't felt a need to delete players based on time.
20:46 GNU[BDC]      how big is your auth.txt?
20:50 Shara         It's previously passed 40MB in size, but usually reduces down to under 4MB (where I get the 90% figure from)
20:51 sfan5         !c 100 - int(4 / 40 * 100)
20:51 MinetestBot   90
20:51 sfan5         somehow i expected that not to match
20:51 Shara         Lol sfan5 :D
20:53 Shara         It will actually be higher than 90
20:53 Shara         Since I've never seen what the size would have reached if I didn't delete entries every so often
20:53 GNU[BDC]      Shara: wow 40, mine is 12MiB
20:53 Shara         GNU[BDC]: How busy is your server and how old?
20:54 GNU[BDC]      one of the oldest LibertyLand
20:54 GNU[BDC]      but i keep cleaning auth.txt when it get 12/14 MiB
20:55 Shara         Mine's two years old and fairly busy.
20:55 Shara         But my other server is only a year old and has passed 40MB already
20:56 Shara         These sizes aren't hard to reach if you get much activity
21:03 GNU[BDC]      Shara: my server is more than 3 yrs old
21:05 GNU[BDC]      Shara: what server is it?
21:05 rubenwardy    My sauth.sqlite is 15MB
21:05 rubenwardy    will the sqlite be bigger or smaller than .txt?
21:05 sy            is it even worth cleaning?
21:05 sy            bigger
21:05 sy            only a little bit bigger though
21:06 Shara         GNU[BDC]: Red Cat is mine
21:06 Shara         And Dark Lands
21:06 rubenwardy    !server red cat creative
21:06 MinetestBot   rubenwardy: Red Cat Creative | 51.254.216.93 | Clients: 15/30, 8/27 | Version: 0.4.16 / redcat | Ping: 14ms
21:07 GNU[BDC]      !server Liberty Land
21:07 MinetestBot   GNU[BDC]: Liberty Land | mt.rbose.org | Clients: 8/50, 5/8 | Version: 0.4.16 / Liberty Land | Ping: 12ms
21:07 GNU[BDC]      rubenwardy: nice
21:07 Krock         slightly bigger, rubenwardy. the database will contain the same data as the text file but with additional bytes for string length
21:07 Krock         but it's not a big difference at all
21:08 GNU[BDC]      how do you clean sauth.sqlite?
21:09 Shara         It doesn't need cleaning so much really.
21:35 rubenwardy    what even https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=18581 and https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=18700