Time  Nick           Message
02:34 Billre         whats a good frontend to the maps.sqlite file?  I've trying DB Browser for SQLite but it's very slow to load the file and I'm not seeing any data.
06:07 sovetskiy      Please help me to find out how to change player's inventory size correcly. My code (https://pastebin.com/GpsrdqaG) is not working.
12:30 Guest_6755     how to make blocks with a slope? For example a road with a slope?
12:37 Guest_1199     how to make blocks with a slope? For example a road with a slope? (minetest)
12:37 VanessaE       Guest_1199: moreblocks mod
12:37 VanessaE       comes with a table saw that can cut many kinds of blocks into slopes et al.
13:25 deltasquared   now I'm curious as to how the moreblocks mod achieves slopes, I would assume via meshes as AFAIK nodeboxes don't do continuous slopes
13:28 VanessaE       correct.
13:28 deltasquared   I'm just sat here staring at the .obj file and trying to visualise it in 3D space
13:29 deltasquared   also quite frankly I don't get most of wavefront obj format directives, but the coordinates are fairly obvious
13:30 VanessaE       I used to know the basics, enough to write a script to convert a glob of nodeboxes into a valid .obj model
13:31 deltasquared   I have a soft spot for any format I can write with a text editor. granted sometimes a modelling program makes it a lot easier to work with, but I like having that option
13:31 paramat        Guest_1199 please don't repeat a question so soon, it might take a few hours for someone to see and answer :]
15:08 deltasquared   haha, welp, calling set_attach() on an entity with a player object as it's parent fails hilariously
15:08 deltasquared   the entity's position updates as expected but it just doesn't render at all
15:08 deltasquared   it "re-appears" when detached, though.
15:09 deltasquared   in fact when it does so it goes through the teleport glide effect, seemingly from the last position it was in before being attached to a player
15:10 deltasquared   it doesn't matter too much to me in this particular case as I wasn't intending to attach things to players in particular, just interesting to observe
16:50 w_laenger      !tell Player_2 Hello
16:50 MinetestBot    w_laenger: yeah, sure, whatever
17:52 deltasquared   stupid question time, the docs doesn't appear to have a "none" visual type for entities, would there be a straightforward way to make an entity that has no rendering in the world?
17:52 deltasquared   the use case is an entity which changes the light level of the node it's in
17:53 deltasquared   I figure perhaps an empty mesh, transparent sprite or transparent textured cube visual would do it
17:53 * deltasquared decides to see what happens if none is specified
17:57 Krock          or set the scale to 0
18:02 paramat        would be useful, sometimes it's useful to attach a player to an invisible entity
18:04 deltasquared   well I'm going to see in a minute if MT crashes if I don't define it... in the meantime, might have missed it, but is there a mechanism to set initial armor groups from an entity def? (in particular immortal=1)
18:43 deltasquared   huh, is it not sufficient to light up a node with paramtype="light" by setting it's param1 value, or does it also have to be registered as a light source...
18:45 deltasquared   ... apparently so. shucks.
18:49 aidalgol       Is a subgame just a bundle of mods, or is there something more to it?
18:50 sfan5          pretty much just that
18:55 deltasquared   sfan5: you have to put modpack.txt there though right?
18:56 Krock          no. game.conf instead
19:12 deltasquared   lel, once again I can't texture for jack
20:17 Billre         I'm looking at map.sqlite file in sqliteman and the data blobs looks encrypted.  I want to be able to search the data for instances of blocks - for example: locations of technic furnaces.  I can't seem to do it this way.  Is there another way?
20:18 sfan5          they're just in serialized form, no encryption
20:19 Billre         This what part of it looks like: ýöÛo¿ýöÛoÿß÷
20:21 Billre         what do you mean by serialized?
20:22 sfan5          not in a human-readable format
20:25 Fixer          it might take a few days for someone to see and answer on irc, but usually nobody answers :D
20:28 Billre         Seems like I need to do the querying within minetest then.  How would I do that?
20:30 Billre         Fixer: I guess this where I need to be patient and wait a few days?  :D
20:57 deltasquared   woo, it works. I have a light source that follows me as I move around
20:57 deltasquared   now to find a way to make that happen when I wield a torch I guess
20:59 deltasquared   so, I did a bit more investigation into the attach-to-player thing, it seems that the server-side entity updates correctly, but the GenericCAO that the client sees does not - so the entity (and it's nametag) remains stuck at where it was pre-attach
20:59 deltasquared   I dunno if this was something fixed in 0.5.0-dev
21:00 deltasquared   I know that it's updating server-side correctly in this instance as the entity in question is the one spawning this light source.
21:01 deltasquared   even weirder though, is that while the entity visually remains fixed in place, it is lit depending on it's real position according to entityref:get_pos()
21:01 deltasquared   I can only assume something is not getting synced correctly somewhere
21:16 swift110       goodness I forgot to get a new mouse
21:16 swift110       actually I would prefer to use a usb joystick with the game
21:17 deltasquared   swift110: are you mad!?
21:17 deltasquared   but muh muscle accuracy
21:18 swift110       deltasquared, not mad
21:18 swift110       lol
21:20 deltasquared   swift110: try playing with a console controller and get back to me ;)
21:20 deltasquared   (assuming there's some way to get MT to speak to one...)
21:36 aidalgol       Is there a subgame that mostly plays itself?  Like the Minecraft automation (machinery) mods taken to the extreme?
21:36 rubenwardy     technic is a good automation one
21:36 aidalgol       rubenwardy: For Minetest?
21:36 rubenwardy     yeah
21:36 rubenwardy     !mod technic
21:36 MinetestBot    rubenwardy: Technic [technic] by RealBadAngel - https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=2538
21:36 aidalgol       cool!
21:37 aidalgol       I had trouble getting into Minecraft because there's no goal, and building got boring.  And writing mods looked painful.  Maybe I'll have more fun just writing mods for Minetest. :P
21:50 Fuchs          we discussed this a bit at #live, minetest these days has advancements,
21:50 Fuchs          *minecraft, sorry
21:50 Fuchs          and they give you goals to reach, like mine stuff to go to the nether, go to the end, kill the dragon etc.
21:50 Fuchs          I think that might be something nice for minetest, too
21:51 rubenwardy     Fuchs, in #-hub we're currently talking about the default game should be
21:51 Fuchs          oh
21:51 rubenwardy     please repost that: D
21:51 swift110       hmm
21:51 rubenwardy     it's good to have a third party opinion
21:51 Fuchs          rubenwardy: bah, just forward it, otherwise it's even one channel more I need to have an eye on :p
21:52 swift110       rubenwardy, whats the link to the event you was at
21:52 rubenwardy     https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=18742
21:53 Fuchs          (we are currently working on pictures, can only take a few more weeks *cough*)
22:04 deltasquared   next stupid question time, is there an easy mechanism to arrange for a callback when a player switches items?
22:05 deltasquared   the justification here is that I'd like to be able to detect when a player switches to a torch in their hand without needing to continously poll.
22:07 deltasquared   so it'd have to be something like: when a player switches to a torch or logs in holding one, trigger a "start" callback. when a player switches away, dies, or otherwise ceases to hold a torch (logout can be handled separately), trigger a "stop" callback
22:08 deltasquared   I mean I *could* implement it via globalstep but I'm concerned that'd be slightly ouch performance wise
23:26 aidalgol       Fuchs: On pictures?
23:26 Fuchs          of the event
23:26 aidalgol       ah
23:27 GreenDimond    There a certain TenPlus1 here?
23:27 aidalgol       I thought you meant a photography mechanic in the game.
23:27 GreenDimond    Well, I dont see him so..
23:27 GreenDimond    Jordach, you familiar with mob animations in Minetest (using mobs_redo api)?
23:30 GreenDimond    Is anyone here familiar with mob animations using mobs_redo?
23:34 GreenDimond    Well, I am having a problem where only the last mob placed actually has any animation.
23:36 Jordach        localise everything
23:36 GreenDimond    It also alternates between 2 of them
23:37 GreenDimond    after one restart its mob a, and another its mob b, but never c,d,etc..
23:37 GreenDimond    How do I localize a mob?..
23:38 Jordach        GreenDimond, protip
23:38 Jordach        local entity = { defs here}
23:38 Jordach        then function entity:on_step(dtime)
23:38 GreenDimond    Does that work with mobs_redo though...?
23:38 Jordach        and entity:on_activate(staticdata, dtime_s)
23:38 Jordach        (as functions)
23:39 Jordach        then minetest.register_entity("mod:name", entity)
23:39 Jordach        that grants an easy way to make each entity local
23:40 GreenDimond    Doesnt sound like that will solve my problem
23:40 Jordach        i'm in the middle of writing something clever ;)
23:40 GreenDimond    looking at cow.lua in mobs_animal, there is nothing like that, yet they work fine.
23:43 GreenDimond    I might have solved my own problem
23:43 Jordach        see
23:44 Jordach        keep testing and restarting
23:44 GreenDimond    Apparently mobs_redo doesnt like it when there is no walk/run start/end even though the velocity for both is 0 :P