Time  Nick         Message
06:13 MinetestBot  02[git] 04lhofhansl -> 03minetest/minetest: Reduce server FOV with forward speed 130732bf7 https://git.io/vFfXn (152017-10-26T06:13:06Z)
06:30 jas_         https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CELo-AmUKiU
06:30 jas_         !title
06:30 MinetestBot  jas_: Tom Waits - Invitation to the blues - YouTube
06:41 hisforever   Hi I rin Linux Lite Os I can't find the latist version on a depostory. How hard is it to composit it fron source code?
06:42 sfan5        http://dev.minetest.net/Compiling_Minetest
06:43 sfan5        tho that likely doesn't work on whatever distro you're using directly
06:43 sfan5        there's also https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=15802
06:44 hisforever   thanks stan5
06:45 sofar        you can also use the flatpak, or try extracting an rpm or deb
06:45 sofar        even the tarball from archlinux may work on your system
06:50 hisforever   thanks sofar
07:28 ZenonSeth    you know, you guys are pretty unhelpful sometimes. I asked two questions yesterday, about having a centralized auth system and if anyone had advice on how to study the c++ code, and all i got is some condescending talk from a guy who I don't think is even a dev
07:34 jas_         !next
07:34 MinetestBot  Another satisfied customer. Next!
07:39 sfan5        i don't think he understands the concept of "volunteer-run open-source project"
08:04 jas_         i don't know enough about "centralized auth system" but i'm reminded of a quote "we like federated services."  <-- not sure how that relates, though.  and the second question is quite general, and i would think somewhat difficult to answer -- though i'm no dev!
08:05 jas_         i think "centralize auth system" would be a player database that could be shared between multiple servers?  i might PGUP sometime
08:11 jas_         rip idtech https://youtu.be/yERibixxcEs
08:11 jas_         !title
08:11 MinetestBot  jas_: Rage DeFRaG - YouTube
16:37 sofar        one would think it would be trivial to make some sort of oauth bridge
16:37 sofar        log in with your facebook account!
16:38 deltasquared sofar: if I ever saw that in a server login I would nope into orbit
16:38 sofar        good, orbit is cool
16:38 sofar        you go to orbit, great views
16:39 sofar        I don't think 95% of clients would even blink though
16:40 deltasquared sofar: yeah well I imagine facebook as a giant squid trying to suck me in wherever it gets it's tentacles in, but that's just me
16:41 deltasquared beyond that, just makes your FB account more and more a single point of failure security wise, but if everyone wants to be lemmings, not my problem I guess :P
16:43 sofar        oath doesn't need to be facebook, that was just an example
16:43 sofar        you could run your own oauth server
16:43 sofar        it could be deltasquared.co.biz.nerd
16:46 sofar        obviously the thing to do would be to create an oauth service that is hooked into the minetest.net forum so that your forum name would be your in-game name
16:46 sofar        and it can be maintained/configured through the forum in some way
16:48 sofar        e.g. https://github.com/oauthjs/node-oauth2-server
16:48 sofar        all the parts are already there
18:10 deltasquared sofar: whoop, was away having dinner. right, I didn't know it was oauth in general under consideration in this case
18:11 deltasquared yeah if you can pick your own origin server I'm all for it
18:18 orbea        How does underground farming in farming redo work? Mese lights should be enough?
18:18 orbea        im having a hard time finding documentation on this..
18:36 MinetestBot  02[git] 04EXio4 -> 03minetest/minetest: Add missing? include 132efccb3 https://git.io/vFUTk (152017-10-26T18:35:32Z)
18:51 deltasquared orbea: not even the normal farming mod does proper "sky detection" as far as I can tell
18:51 deltasquared *reads code*
18:52 deltasquared at most you could kludge it by insisting that X number of blocks above a plant be a high enough light level and air, but you could still defeat it
18:52 deltasquared sky detection in general can be somewhat inaccurate with cubic chunks.
18:53 orbea        so I take it doesn't really work yet?
18:54 deltasquared orbea: actually what I'm saying is it should do, as there's no 100% foolproof way to detect if you're "underground", even Y-level checks have caveats
18:54 edisonbulb   example: a plot of crops inside a lit structure 5000 blocks tall
18:54 deltasquared ^
18:54 deltasquared how far do you go as it were
18:55 deltasquared orbea: if you look at api.lua in the base game's farming mod, it doesn't do much beyond check the plant's own light level, it doesn't check above for instance
18:57 orbea        then how would you increase the plant's light level in game?
18:59 orbea        obviously sunlight does it, but without sunlight?
19:00 Tazy         actually, if some blocks are above it, somehow it starts to not work, but its inconsitend.
19:01 Tazy         so just change torches light level to the sun? /kidding
19:07 deltasquared orbea: light level is just light from torches etc, so you should be able to grow plants using just torch light
19:07 jas_         meselamp and mese_post_light items work to grow without sunlight.
19:07 orbea        deltasquared: doesn't work though
19:08 orbea        jas_: that is what I thought, but it seems to not be working for us, maybe its pebkac
19:11 Tazy         perhaps something with the setup is wrong: https://i.imgur.com/f3FsLS0.png
19:15 jas_         gotta be above/besides?  haven't tried it in a while
20:21 greeter      umm... is there any easy way to undo a misfire with a world edit command?
20:22 ThomasMonroe nope, sorry
20:22 ThomasMonroe not unless you had a backup
20:23 greeter      well it's only 1650 nodes. i'm sure it won't take that long to dig up lol
20:24 salahzar     thanks @sfan5 for your answer it actually worked :) (!)
20:26 salahzar     that's really amazing. I must study this mod (moon) to understand how it works
22:59 swift110_    hey guys
23:01 Fixer        minetest is doing
23:01 swift110_    good I am trying to get more people onto it
23:02 swift110_    It's a shame that people have Minecraft ao locked into their minds
23:02 rubenwardy   swift110_, https://i.rubenwardy.com/k5czA4RU7l.jpg
23:02 rubenwardy   I'm exhibiting at the freenode conference this weekend
23:03 swift110_    awesome
23:03 rubenwardy   hopefully we'll be able to get some contributors
23:03 swift110_    I have a few in my channel that are into it alreadt
23:03 swift110_    rubenwardy, that's awesome
23:13 rubenwardy   http://rubenwardy.com/freenode-live/
23:13 rubenwardy   all resources
23:39 GreenDimond  Hey question. How would I specify separate textures for the sides of a slab?
23:45 rubenwardy   make tiles a table with 6 images
23:48 GreenDimond  rubenwardy: So it does work like normal blocks?
23:48 GreenDimond  I assume it only uses the bottom half of the texture specified for the side
23:48 rubenwardy   it's a node box I think
23:48 rubenwardy   unless they made it a mesh
23:49 GreenDimond  I think only stairs are meshes
23:49 GreenDimond  Also, how would I use colorize?
23:53 GreenDimond  btw thankyou rubenwardy
23:56 lumberJ      GreenDimond here is a colorize example: https://github.com/kakalak-lumberJack/paintedstone/blob/master/init.lua
23:57 GreenDimond  lumberJ, what is the `120` in `^[colorize:"..hex..":120"},` for?
23:57 lumberJ      the alpha value
23:58 lumberJ      so like how transparent the color layer is between 0-255
23:58 GreenDimond  that is ~half alpha right?
23:58 lumberJ      yes, more or less
23:58 GreenDimond  So I should make sure it has alpha?
23:58 GreenDimond  or does it matter whether I make it no alpha?
23:59 lumberJ      well, i wanted the texure of the stone to show through
23:59 GreenDimond  ah so if I want the texture to show, I have to use half transparency?
23:59 lumberJ      yes, or you can play with it to see how much color you want
23:59 GreenDimond  alright, thankyou :D