Time  Nick         Message
02:06 Muyfret      so if i wanted to make a game using minetest as a base, other than handing over engine improvements (likely i won't have many to offer), is the game code itself something i need to open source
02:06 w00t-Noob    eliza: i won't be able to sleep now
02:13 helpless     Hello, can somebody please help me with installing mods on ubuntu? When i put them in the mods folder they don't install, they just sit there
02:14 jas_         did you expect them to bounce and hop around?
02:14 Muyfret      go to your config and do a search for mods or client
02:14 jas_         which mods directory did you put them in?
02:14 helpless     I tried all of the mods folders i could find
02:14 jas_         because if you installed system-wide (ubuntu package for example) then it must be ~/.minetest/mods
02:15 jas_         for your user, or if you want them to be available for all system users, then /usr/share/minetest/mods, but i don't think i've ever tried that
02:15 jas_         go into mods folder and type `pwd'
02:15 helpless     I'm teh only user
02:16 jas_         if you look in world.mt, you'll see a list of available mods that minetest found for your world
02:16 jas_         and if the one you want says "false" just change it to "true"
02:16 w00t-Noob    even the realname says it's a bot
02:16 helpless     Okay, also i'm having trouble reinstalling minetest. The installer just sits and maybe loads
02:17 jas_         w00t-Noob: no way
02:17 w00t-Noob    mama, ooh (any way down
02:17 jas_         i don't show these things
02:17 jas_         nor join/parts
02:17 helpless     Thats the other thing, i couldn't locate the worlds folder
02:17 w00t-Noob    all the concepts you need, the secret, but for something bad
02:17 * jas_       np https://youtu.be/FbJ63spk48s
02:17 jas_         !title
02:17 MinetestBot  jas_: Venetian Snares - Hajnal - YouTube
02:20 jas_         i wonder if there even is an official minetest installer.
02:21 helpless     It's just the software center... It takes forever
02:23 jas_         !minetest
02:23 jas_         (oops lol)
02:23 jas_         !server
02:23 MinetestBot  jas_: Minemacro Brasil 3.0 | 191.101.9.234 | Clients: 0/8, 0/2 | Version: 0.4.16-dev / minetest | Ping: 148ms
02:23 w00t-Noob    jas_: venetian snares - hajnal - youtube
02:24 jas_         !rainbow https://youtu.be/fZsbGJsJAxY
02:24 MinetestBot  4http7s://8yout3u.be12/fZs6bGJs13JAxY
02:24 jas_         !title
02:26 Megaf        Venetian Snares - Gentleman (HD)
02:26 jas_         you heard venetian snares and you said "gennntttleeemannnnnn"
02:26 jas_         (that's a krs-one sample)
02:29 jas_         last one, my fav https://youtu.be/2dz9h9QOJgQ
02:29 jas_         !title
02:29 MinetestBot  jas_: 01. KRS One - Bling Blung - YouTube
02:31 lumberJ      nice tracks jas_
02:31 w00t-Noob    capa`: very nice reply, i'm always impressed when you take the time to seem important
02:32 lumberJ      helpless did you get minetest installed? also sometimes those folders (worlds, games) don't appear until you use them or create them
02:33 lumberJ      in other words, they might not be in a fresh install
02:44 ThomasMonroe hey lumberJ
02:45 lumberJ      hey ThomasMonroe
02:45 lumberJ      how's it going?
02:45 ThomasMonroe good, ive got a new server
02:47 lumberJ      what's the theme?
02:50 ThomasMonroe pure survival, no help from creative XD
03:34 Muyfret      and i just discovered a critical flaw in the CSM i made
03:34 bigfoot547   OK
03:35 bigfoot547   Continue.........
03:37 Muyfret      well it's not very random
03:37 bigfoot547   Okayyyyyyyyy
04:10 Muyfret      i don't even
04:11 bigfoot547   What's the CSM for?
04:11 Muyfret      encryption
04:11 bigfoot547   Ok
04:11 bigfoot547   Encryption of what?
04:12 Muyfret      text
04:12 bigfoot547   ok
04:12 Muyfret      https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=18615
11:32 Fervi        Hello. I can't play single player game, because: "Access denied. Reason: Connection timed out." (Minetest 0.4.16) - any solution for that?
11:33 Fixer        check your firewall?
11:34 Fervi        i don't have any and it is single player, so it should works also
12:20 Calinou      Fervi: what operating system are you using?
12:21 Fervi        Well, dunno :D Devuan Ascii (Debian Stretch without systemd) with some packages (minetest also) from Ceres (Debian Sid)
12:21 Fervi        multiplayer works great
12:21 Calinou      try compiling Minetest from source, and see if the problem persists
12:21 Fervi        ok
12:21 Calinou      it might also be faulty network configuration (missing `localhost` alias?)
12:22 Calinou      https://github.com/minetest/minetest
12:22 Calinou      use the stable-0.4 branch to compile 0.4.16 (it is named 0.4.17, but it's actually 0.4.16)
12:22 Calinou      the `master` branch (upcoming 0.5.0) cannot be used to play on 0.4.16 servers (most servers are currently using this version)
12:31 Fervi        still doesn't work, but maybe the problem is with configuration?
12:31 Fervi        http://meshnet-users.tk/paste/p/homk/k.txt
12:31 Fervi        Maybe old files doesn't like new version of MT?
12:31 Fervi        or maybe i need to upgrade all system to unstable :D
12:32 Fixer        Fervi: just curious, can you start singleplayer via server (there is option for that on sp screen)?
12:33 Fervi        host server? Yep
12:33 Fervi        but also doesn't work
12:35 Fervi        ok, i just try to do upgrade to unstable, maybe thats the problem (minetest in stretch is in 0.4.15; on sid 0.4.16 - maybe some libraries newest are needed)
13:25 helpless     Hello BBmine
13:25 BBmine       Hey helpless! :D
13:25 BBmine       Long time no se
13:25 BBmine       see*
13:26 helpless     I need some help with installing mods, i can't write to the folder
13:26 BBmine       Linux or Windows?
13:26 helpless     Linux of the Ubuntu persuasion
13:27 BBmine       Ok. In .minetest, open a terminal and do ls.
13:27 BBmine       ls -l actually
13:28 helpless     ok
13:29 BBmine       What is the output of ls -l?
13:38 helpless     @BBmine okay, I got minetest in my home folder, what do i do now?
13:41 fridolin     Hello, can someone help me ? i want to have boots to walk on water or leaves , and i dont understand how i can do this.
13:41 helpless     I'm not quite sure either. How much lua do you know?
13:43 fridolin     not so much nodes and other small things i can
13:43 helpless     Okay... For water you could look at the boat's coding, but leaves i'm not sure
13:44 deltasquared fridolin: I'm just thinking about it, you'd have to change how the engine handles certain node types for a given player *somehow* (in this case set by wearing some boots)
13:44 helpless     I need to go, bye
13:45 deltasquared as water doesn't prevent you from falling through it. I guess you *could* hack it by continuously adjusting their Y value if they're in water, but that doesn't stop the player slow-down effect either
13:45 deltasquared also boats wouldn't help here as they mostly just work by ignoring normal gravity IIRC
13:45 fridolin     i want this for my mod  and i can walk trough leaves but i want also walk on it when i have special boots on
13:47 deltasquared fridolin: it doesn't really matter what it's for, you gotta figure out how to do it first
13:47 deltasquared you couldn't exactly get them to hover over water either, pretty sure gravity would still accumulate and you'd have problems trying to counteract it
13:48 fridolin     yeah i know
13:48 deltasquared maybe you *could* use something akin to a boat. spawn an entity when over water that you can walk on, have it track the player's X/Z on the water's surface
13:48 deltasquared it would be invisible so at least you wouldn't have to muck with meshes and such
13:50 deltasquared quite frankly, I suspect minecraft's ice walker enchantment behaviour would be easier to implement (if more destructive)
13:52 fridolin     ok i must learn how to code for so much work for this :) can some one  help me with this ?
13:52 fridolin     sorry i cant speak so much good english :)
13:53 deltasquared fridolin: I would say you can start with dev.minetest.net (it's a wiki of sorts, it shows you various things related to modding), but beware that site isn't complete or 100% up to date. there's a file called lua_api.txt in the doc folder of the minetest installation which is considered the authorative reference
13:53 deltasquared I'm afraid to say it can be a little confusing at times, it's more of a reference than a guide in my experience
13:54 fridolin     thank you ! :)
13:55 deltasquared fridolin: in general, the advice I would give is, at least try to find out for yourself how to do these things, but if you are genuinely stuck and know the right questions to ask (in other words, you sound like you mostly know what you're talking about), do not be afraid to do so.
13:56 fridolin     ok im out bye
14:15 blaise       anyone care to check out my minetest server?
14:15 blaise       midnightsystems.net
14:20 ThomasMonroe i'll be there in 1 min blaise
14:20 blaise       cool
14:21 ThomasMonroe is it on the public server list?
14:23 ThomasMonroe blaise, it said my client wasnt supported
14:23 red-001      is it a 0.5-dev or 0.4.16 server?
14:24 ThomasMonroe .17-dev
14:24 ThomasMonroe client
14:27 blaise       eh,
14:27 blaise       0.5.0
14:27 blaise       :D
14:28 ThomasMonroe ugh, i'd have to compile a new vesion to get on sry
14:28 blaise       no problem
14:33 blaise       I have the regular stable release instgalled but the gentoo ebuild seems to have a strange layout as far as configuration goes
14:34 blaise       haven't quite figured out where to put the stuff....
14:34 blaise       I've tried in both /home/minetest/.minetest/ and /usr/share/minetest with no luck
14:37 sfan5        minetest --version says RUN_IN_PLACE=1 right?
14:38 blaise       it's minetestserver
14:39 blaise       i didnt compile the client on that machine
14:39 blaise       let me log in and check
14:42 blaise       Build info: VER=0.4.16 BUILD_TYPE=Gentoo RUN_IN_PLACE=0 USE_GETTEXT=1 USE_SOUND=0 USE_CURL=1 USE_FREETYPE=0 USE_LUAJIT=1 STATIC_SHAREDIR="/usr/share/minetest"
14:43 blaise       trippy
14:43 blaise       so it's definitly supposed to have the stuffs in /usr/share/minetest/
14:43 blaise       :/
14:43 twoelk       maybe minetest should add a report in the bin folder where it put stuff or expects stuff to be on whatever system it happens to unfold
14:43 sfan5        that does look correct
14:43 sfan5        well except
14:43 sfan5        Gentoo is not a build type
14:44 blaise       lmao
14:45 blaise       i didn't make the ebuild, I just used it
14:56 blaise       here is the gentoo ebuild https://paste.pound-python.org/show/EBVdfdtGoJbERI6eP4wJ/
14:59 sfan5        i'm sure whatever code calls cmake with that arg knows what it's doing
15:01 blaise       elog "Configure your server via /etc/conf.d/minetest-server"
15:01 blaise       interesting
15:02 blaise       guess I need to mv /usr/share/minetest/minetest.conf /etc/conf.d/
15:15 blaise       okay, it's up
15:15 blaise       and it's in the server listing
15:15 blaise       lmao
15:17 blaise       damnit
15:17 blaise       it's saying it's read only
15:17 blaise       poop
15:19 blaise       okay, I think I fixed it
15:20 blaise       world was still owned by root
15:20 * blaise     chuckles
15:21 blaise       yep
15:21 blaise       it's golden now
15:21 blaise       :D
15:22 blaise       would everyone please that cares to try my minetest server check out midnightsystems.net
15:22 blaise       ;D
15:22 blaise       woot!
15:23 Fervi        upgrade didn't fix the problem :/
15:23 Calinou      Billy136, Fanny899 and Rosie420 will sure love checking your server out :P
15:24 blaise       lol
15:24 blaise       are they uber greifers?
15:28 blaise       wow, so like
15:28 blaise       one dude came, and left
15:28 blaise       oh well
15:28 blaise       I'll keep building my welcome area I guess
15:38 blaise       zomfg
15:38 blaise       i totally need a chest mod
15:38 * blaise     slaps himself
15:39 sfan5        !up midnightsystems.net
15:39 MinetestBot  midnightsystems.net:30000 is up (149ms)
15:53 blaise       ahh, interesting...
15:53 blaise       something isn't right with technic
15:54 Krock        !mod infinite chest
15:54 MinetestBot  Krock: Infinite Chest [infinite_chest] Never-ending chest slots. by cornernote - https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=3053
15:54 Krock        ^ blaise, that should be enough for the moment
15:55 blaise       yeah, but none of my technic mod stuff is showing at alll
15:55 blaise       ;G
15:59 blaise       the weird part is there is no complaints about technic
16:00 blaise       in the log that is
16:02 blaise       ok, brass and granite is there, but that's it
16:02 blaise       :P
16:03 Krock        you didn't enable technic itself - only the mapgen
16:03 * blaise     facepalms
16:03 blaise       sheba
16:03 blaise       I could have swarn I did
16:03 * blaise     digs
16:04 Krock        don't dig too fast. there's a cheat prevention
16:04 Krock        and that's logged
16:07 blaise       do what?
16:12 blaise       can i set time_speed in minetest.conf ? or does that need to be set in world.mt
16:16 orbea        are there any well maintained mod packs/subgames that offer a more complete survival based minetest without changing the style too much?
16:16 Krock        blaise, in minetest.conf
16:16 orbea        the lists I am finding are full of potentially poorly maintained and out of date choices so its making it hard to find a few worth trying
16:16 Krock        https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=4738
16:16 Krock        ^ orbea
16:17 orbea        thanks
16:17 Krock        or https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=13573
16:17 Krock        but the best solution is to check out the mods that exist and look whether they fit to your world
16:18 Krock        If you need a random button, here's it: http://krock-works.16mb.com/MTstuff/modSearch.php?st=2
16:19 orbea        yea, i plan to fine tune it over time, but im pretty new to using minetest :)
16:19 orbea        cool thanks
16:20 Krock        !next
16:20 MinetestBot  Another satisfied customer. Next!
16:21 orbea        first one seems to have not been touched since 2015?
16:23 Krock        ouch yes. code is already 2.5 years old
16:24 orbea        second one looks like a good starting place though :)