Time Nick Message 00:10 Fixer greeter: i remember someone asked just that, there was pretty simple solution somewhere on forum or this irc, try googling it 00:11 Fixer have fun 05:22 Muyfret any servers have engineering mods and a real mob threat 05:49 bigfoot547 Muyfret: Xanadu maybe? 05:50 bigfoot547 Never been on, may have some mobs or smth 05:50 bigfoot547 At least, that's what it advertizes :P 05:57 Muyfret trying survival X. at night it had monsters pretty decently spread 06:06 Muyfret no logic gates :( 09:17 hisforever Hi this may be a stupid Question but here it comes hehe. I'm not omline to conect to a server. so CanI still use the host server to log in to my build or do I still have to be in singleplayer mod? 09:20 sfan5 the "host server" functionality does not require an internet connection 09:22 hisforever Thanks sfan5 that helped 09:25 hisforever I downloaded a map caled Flatlands How do I installt it.Do I just pit the downloaded folder in worlds, and make a world named flatlands? 09:28 sfan5 you probably need to extract your download so that you have a folder called "flatlands" in worlds 09:29 hisforever I did extract it 09:35 hisforever Thannks sfn5 you were a great help bye 10:28 MinetestBot _god_: Sep-22 09:08 UTC hello‮ 10:30 MinetestBot 02[git] 04nerzhul -> 03minetest/minetest: Thread: fix a crash on Windows due to data race condition on Thread::… 1332ae492 https://git.io/vdVmA (152017-10-10T10:27:08Z) 10:32 deltasquared that commit wrt threads on windows reminds me of my own fun adventures with threading under VS2013 10:32 deltasquared like the M$ std::thread implementation trying to copy move-only arguments to the thread function >_> 10:33 deltasquared RIP std::unique_ptr 10:35 deltasquared not sure if that commit falls under this category, but I tend to find M$ only bothers to fix bugs if enough of their bigger customers complain about it 10:38 Krock but they include >amazing< libraries like telemetry automatically! isn't that great? 10:39 deltasquared sure, if your telemetry provider of choice is M$... I don't even get to choose my corporate overlords! 0/10 11:45 Fixer telemetry all the things 12:22 qwerfvbgtzhnmju rainbow test 12:23 guumienteh !rainbow troller [~p@95.108.185.109-red.dhcp.yndx.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:23 MinetestBot 4trol7ler 8[~p@3​95.112​08.16​85.113​09-r4ed.d7hcp.8yndx3.net12] ha6s qu13it [4Ping7 tim8eout3: 2412​0 se6cond13s] 12:24 guumienteh !test 12:25 guumienteh !help 12:25 MinetestBot https://github.com/sfan5/minetestbot-modules/blob/master/COMMANDS.md 12:25 habeangur guumienteh: Commands: !help !ping 12:25 Krock !ping 12:25 habeangur Krock: ping pong 12:25 Krock habeangur, very helpful.. add more commands 12:31 whoLovesMyPOOP hi 13:23 luizsab everyone got sucess with Streets 2.0 mod in local network game? When I enables the mod, the game gets a very slow loading 13:23 luizsab I already posted it in forum 13:23 luizsab is there any mod alternative? 13:42 Krock !tell luizsab streets mod alternative: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=13904 13:42 MinetestBot Krock: I'll pass that on when luizsab is around 13:45 agagaga !tell luizsab HI 13:45 MinetestBot agagaga: I'll pass that on when luizsab is around 13:46 agagaga !tell whoLovesMyPOOP http://wiki.minetest.net/IRC#Rules 13:46 MinetestBot agagaga: I'll pass that on when whoLovesMyPOOP is around 13:47 whoLovesMyPOOP !tell whoLovesMyPOOP http://wiki.minetest.net/IRC#Rules 13:47 MinetestBot You can tell that to yourself 13:47 MinetestBot whoLovesMyPOOP: Oct-10 13:46 UTC http://wiki.minetest.net/IRC#Rules 14:05 humanSpamBot hi 14:06 Krock wtf is going on with that dude 14:10 humanSpamBot PLEASE BAN ME FOREVER!!!!!!! PLEASE BAN ME FOREVER!!!!!!! PLEASE BAN ME FOREVER!!!!!!! PLEASE BAN ME FOREVER!!!!!!! PLEASE BAN ME FOREVER!!!!!!! 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7647647163784 041734671073610736571 376 53107 4371 73604 630761507 136 0378265043 7156 56106503261 13265 326 530261570 63764076 43526 403657046205 6071 64327650412765074651 547 10574605647 q65726350 7463051076547 53789165 718042650328653087 5 4207 65214 14:24 humanSpamBot 2385 3825784357982 8342574382193458732 138975239 83753ß1087531 01728103275 13715637567120231 370154 371856 53278 53217863758432786321 327056 1027364307264 1371 3271647643012 7647647163784 041734671073610736571 376 53107 4371 73604 630761507 136 0378265043 7156 56106503261 13265 326 530261570 63764076 43526 403657046205 6071 64327650412765074651 547 10574605647 q65726350 7463051076547 53789165 718042650328653087 5 4207 65214 14:24 humanSpamBot 2385 3825784357982 8342574382193458732 138975239 83753ß1087531 01728103275 13715637567120231 370154 371856 53278 53217863758432786321 327056 1027364307264 1371 3271647643012 7647647163784 041734671073610736571 376 53107 4371 73604 630761507 136 0378265043 7156 56106503261 13265 326 530261570 63764076 43526 403657046205 6071 64327650412765074651 547 10574605647 q65726350 7463051076547 53789165 718042650328653087 5 4207 65214 14:26 Krock !tell humanSpamBot just connect the chat output with /dev/urandom 14:26 MinetestBot Krock: I'll pass that on when humanSpamBot is around 17:31 MinetestBot 02[git] 04nerzhul -> 03minetest/minetest: Fix warnings introduced by 9b8fa99fe30728c1fcfa73cdf74211841bdae9fb 131ff5c20 https://git.io/vdwLo (152017-10-10T17:30:18Z) 19:03 MinetestBot 02[git] 04paramat -> 03minetest/minetest: Simple decorations: Make 'place_offset_y' usable with simple decorations 139a41a3d https://git.io/vdwlm (152017-10-10T18:57:28Z) 19:03 MinetestBot 02[git] 04DTA7 -> 03minetest/minetest: Smooth lighting: Fix light leaking through edge-connected corners 132cf9014 https://git.io/vdwlY (152017-10-10T18:53:13Z) 20:21 lumberJ bigfoot547 are you the docs team Bigfoot? 20:23 Calinou lumberJ: /join #minetest-doc :) 20:23 lumberJ thanks, Calinou 22:05 MinetestBot 02[git] 04paramat -> 03minetest/minetest_game: Decorations: Add kelp to cool and temperate shallow ocean 13eb5a5b5 https://git.io/vdwyL (152017-10-10T21:57:10Z) 22:05 MinetestBot 02[git] 04tenplus1 -> 03minetest/minetest_game: TNT: Add tnt.boom defaults 133ff2969 https://git.io/vdwyt (152017-10-10T21:55:49Z) 22:17 Muyfret can you upgrade lua to newest or atleast to one where binary xor is implemented 22:17 sfan5 no 22:17 Muyfret why 22:17 Muyfret not even for version 5? 22:17 sfan5 minetest only supports lua 5.1 22:17 sfan5 because of luajit mainly 22:18 Muyfret then can you make a minetest function that does xor for us 22:18 Muyfret also hash would be nice 22:18 Muyfret sha256 hash of a string to be exact 22:19 sfan5 should have somewhat realistic chances of inclusion as we have sha256 anyway 22:20 sfan5 including the "bit" library would also be a possibility 22:21 sfan5 depending on your usecase using a native library may be better anyway 22:21 Muyfret i want this exposed for csm 22:21 sfan5 ow 22:21 sfan5 why tho 22:23 Muyfret i have a plugin that lets me encrypt text. 22:23 o11c "encrypt" 22:23 Muyfret for the xor i want it because doing it in lua i'm guessing is slower 22:23 Muyfret yes it's boutique crypto for now. 22:23 o11c if it's not based on libsodium, it's probably exploitable 22:23 o11c and libsodium is easy, so ... 22:23 Muyfret i want the hash function to check the encrypted text i got back is what i sent 22:24 o11c the low-level crypto library should be in charge of that 22:24 Muyfret i'm using it to store text in books 22:25 sfan5 o11c: there's no hope of importing any library into CSM which is why you need to reinvent the wheel 22:25 sfan5 which proves difficult as lua does not even have bitwise ops 22:26 Muyfret i got code from the net. but it means slowdown 22:27 o11c not "no hope", just "no code" 22:27 Muyfret what's preferred license csm modders should use? 22:38 bigfoot547 lumberJ: Yes 22:38 bigfoot547 in response to [15:21:47] bigfoot547 are you the docs team Bigfoot? 23:05 lumberJ bigfoot547, thanks Calinou helped me :) 23:05 bigfoot547 Welcome :) 23:08 Muyfret http://codepad.org/hWjg0RcD here's my csm 23:15 Muyfret would be nice if users could PM each other secure messages 23:15 Muyfret i think csm could accomplish that without server admin knowing what two users say, right? 23:16 rubenwardy ideally it should use public/private keys 23:16 rubenwardy over mod channels 23:17 sofar launch mumble, problem solved 23:17 o11c Muyfret: without carefully-written assembly code it is *impossible* to accomplish it 23:17 Muyfret sofar what if they don't have mumble 23:18 sofar it's free, open source 23:18 Muyfret o11c because of how slow? 23:18 o11c Muyfret: because there are *lots* of side-channel attacks on high-level languages, which includes C 23:18 o11c so it's relatively easy to snoop someone's private key 23:18 w00t-Noob eliza, do you know if it's a crime 23:18 Muyfret 011c from MITM perspective? 23:18 w00t-Noob no escape from a poor family, 23:19 o11c even asm ones have had exploits 23:19 Muyfret you're thinking the implementation itself would be compiled/interpreted into something more easily breakable 23:19 o11c Muyfret: look into patching the C client to support and expose libsodium 23:20 o11c that will be far easier *and* more secure 23:20 sofar csm isn't meant for chat msgs, if you want secure messaging get signal 23:20 w00t-Noob or are you gathering meta for me. 23:20 Calinou what's preferred license csm modders should use? 23:20 sofar MIT/LGPL-2.1 would be best 23:20 Calinou I'd say, a simple permissive license like MIT 23:20 Calinou LGPLv2.1-or-later works too 23:20 Calinou (anything more strict cannot be included in Minetest) 23:20 o11c MIT is too scary for me 23:20 Muyfret i copied minetest source license 23:21 rubenwardy if your computer is compromised you're f**ked anyway 23:21 rubenwardy so no need for asm 23:21 o11c people *love* to abuse open-source code, and at least with GPL you have legal recourse 23:21 o11c rubenwardy: ? 23:21 o11c side-channel attacks don't require compromising any host 23:22 rubenwardy especially as your asm code is more likely to have bugs 23:22 Muyfret this is just minetest too. i'm mostly thinking the only threat is the server and the players on that server 23:22 o11c well, side-channel attacks are *easier* for other players than for MITM 23:22 o11c rubenwardy: I don't recommend writing your *own* 23:22 w00t-Noob side-channel attacks don't give me that do goody good bullshit 23:22 Muyfret i would delight in an actually good public-priv crypto for PMing 23:22 o11c Muyfret: libsodium, it's that simple 23:22 w00t-Noob megaf: do you wish that they're giving none away 23:23 Calinou people *love* to abuse open-source code, and at least with GPL you have legal recourse 23:23 Calinou that's provided you have the time and willingness to enforce it 23:23 w00t-Noob i'm always impressed when you take the time has come, 23:23 Calinou (requires copyright information with your real name, etc) 23:23 o11c (if you care about PFS, be sure to take a few lines to do that ...) 23:24 Calinou also, the usual "this is a game, not a banking application" applies 23:24 Calinou very few games encrypt anything (even the chat), let alone the entire protocol 23:24 o11c only because they're lazy, not because they have reason not to 23:24 Calinou (on paper, it's a good idea, in practice, it increases latency and CPU usage a bit, and may not be desirable. Also, there's legal issues in the US) 23:24 w00t-Noob get a good job with more pay and you're o.k. 23:24 o11c also, crypto before libsodium was annoying 23:24 Natechip Hi, im a minetest dev and I need /grant all to check your server. If you dont give me privs I will ban u from minetest 23:24 Natechip :P 23:24 Natechip such fakes lol 23:25 Calinou haha 23:25 lumberJ is that one of your brother's Natechip? :P 23:25 Natechip AHAHAHA lumberJ 23:26 Natechip lumberJ: is Multi still trying for admin on Gabos and Craigs? 23:26 o11c and yeah, *optimal* crypto usage offloads it to another thread, but ... that's only an optimization 23:26 lumberJ well Gabo's has been offline all this year pretty much 23:26 lumberJ and i haven't really seen him on Craig's much 23:27 Natechip lumberJ: he thinks Craigs is gone and he normally isnt on minetest anymore 23:27 Natechip thank god 23:28 Muyfret i still would like minetest.sha256(str), and minetest.xor32bitnums(a,b) minetest.xor8bitchars(a,b) accessible for CSM 23:28 w00t-Noob lumberj: is multi still trying for admin on gabos and the players on that server 23:30 Natechip lumberj: is multi still trying for admin on gabos and the players on that server | what? 23:38 Megaf Natechip, maybe he is drunk or something 23:39 Natechip Megaf: *shrugs*