Time  Nick            Message
00:29 jas_            minetest only uses openal for sound, yes?  that's it, nothing else?
00:31 jas_            hm, i wonder if/when/how openal resamples all the various files.  at all once or repeatedly
00:39 dogetest        !help
00:39 MinetestBot     https://github.com/sfan5/minetestbot-modules/blob/master/COMMANDS.md
00:39 habeangur       dogetest: Commands: !help !ping
00:42 dogetest        I wish I could search servers by theirs mods
00:44 rubenwardy      you can hover over and see what mods they have here: http://servers.minetest.net/
00:44 rubenwardy      and you can search for mods here, but not in a very nice way: http://servers.minetest.net/
00:44 rubenwardy      oops
00:45 rubenwardy      and you can search for mods here, but not in a very nice way: http://servers.minetest.net/list
00:45 dogetest        some of them are bigger than my screen
00:46 dogetest        Didnt knew of /list
01:12 Lone-Star       my dragon loves crickets
04:40 Elon_Satoshi    Anybody play Legend of Minetest?
06:43 kolibri_user    Very intesting OS
06:44 CWz             definitly. not very useful on modern pcs though
09:03 jas_            https://twitch.tv/jastvn
12:47 jas_            hi
12:47 * deltasquared  waves
12:48 * jas_          plays with waves
12:48 deltasquared    SONIC WAVES
12:48 deltasquared    err
12:48 jas_            play * norm -3 rate 48000 lowpass 6666
12:50 Krock           why even 48kHz if you cut off most of it after 6.6kHz ?
12:50 jas_            i'm just goofing around and streaming too
12:50 jas_            and did u know that openal resets connections every time the main menu is reloaded?
12:51 deltasquared    jas_: does that mean something for your streaming setup
12:51 Krock           yes, already seen the verbose output a couple times
12:51 deltasquared    I personally found it annoying when FF reconnected to pulseaudio after playing invididual sounds, so the volume always reset itself :/
12:51 jas_            ff?  firefox?
12:51 deltasquared    yes sorry
12:51 jas_            playing with jack and pulseaudio and openal is fun.
12:52 jas_            and sounds off of archive.org.  otherwise twitch mutes the audio
12:52 deltasquared    try having the messenger sound play at 100% volume when you've got the volume way up but invididual streams lowered so they mix without clipping
12:52 deltasquared    MY EARS
12:55 jas_            : )
12:55 jas_            mine too
12:59 jas_            you have to resample them because some are at 11khz
12:59 jas_            it throws an error in sox anyway
13:00 deltasquared    who the hell samples at 11- oh, is it 11,025hz by any chance, that'd figure
13:00 deltasquared    44100 / 4
13:11 jas_            gotta be less than half the sampling rate i guess
14:00 deltasquared    hey, does the channel bot on here have the facility to leave messages?
14:00 deltasquared    !help
14:00 MinetestBot     https://github.com/sfan5/minetestbot-modules/blob/master/COMMANDS.md
14:00 habeangur       deltasquared: Commands: !help !ping
14:00 Krock           deltasquared: Commands: !help !no !yes !8ball
14:01 deltasquared    bah.
14:01 deltasquared    I was just going to keep VanessaE updated on what I was doing to pipeworks
14:02 Krock           MTB and ShadowBot support each !tell or ~tell
14:03 Krock           even freenode has this functionality for registered members, called MemoServ
14:03 deltasquared    Krock: hmm, I never really looked into the network services anyway
14:03 Krock           time to do so :P
14:03 deltasquared    "offline at the moment" hrm
14:04 deltasquared    !tell VanessaE I've currently re-implemented the pressure balancing mechanism on all pipe nodes, though it currently runs indepently
14:04 MinetestBot     deltasquared: I'll pass that on when VanessaE is around
14:05 deltasquared    that should trigger whe she speaks next I would assume
14:05 deltasquared    not everyone reads all the scrollback :/
14:05 VanessaE        zzz
14:05 MinetestBot     VanessaE: Sep-27 14:04 UTC <deltasquared> I've currently re-implemented the pressure balancing mechanism on all pipe nodes, though it currently runs indepently
14:05 deltasquared    haha.
14:05 VanessaE        ZzzzzZZ....snx-x-x-x....zzz...*snork*  hm...wha?   zzzzz
14:06 * deltasquared  pokes VanessaE again
14:06 VanessaE        ow.  poke *there* again and you'll be less one finger :P
14:06 deltasquared    eep.
14:06 VanessaE        I got your PMs, just haven't had a chance to reply
14:06 deltasquared    right, sorry.
14:52 rdococ          HELLO
14:56 deltasquared    yellow?
14:57 rdococ          BLUE?
14:58 Krock           I'm blue
14:58 rdococ          green
14:59 JayTheNinja23   I am red
14:59 rdococ          yay, Krock and deltasquared merged into green!
14:59 rdococ          I'm, um, yellowish purplish... red.
14:59 JayTheNinja23   good
15:00 * JayTheNinja23 is doing well
15:00 deltasquared    what colour scheme are you on? I'm perfectly red, pretty sure, and Krock is purple
15:00 deltasquared    oi
15:00 rdococ          swore Krock was blue...wait.
15:00 Krock           not surprising that you're red. You're always red in HexChat
15:00 deltasquared    oh right. :P
15:00 Krock           but for me you're really red xD
15:00 rdococ          no, I'm always red in HexChat, you're all blue :P
15:01 rdococ          and not even different shades, lol
15:01 Krock           I doubt this color stuff bases on a hash of the nickname
15:01 JayTheNinja23   I think so
15:01 JayTheNinja23   Only the admins of this server are green
15:01 * rdococ        hashes Krock
15:01 JayTheNinja23   Krock
15:01 Krock           0xBADBEEF
15:02 JayTheNinja23   ?
15:02 Krock           ^ here, rdococ
15:02 JayTheNinja23   kkk
15:02 rdococ          0xDEADBEEF
15:02 rdococ          0xGULLIBLE
15:02 Krock           0xBADCOFFEEBABE
15:02 JayTheNinja23   server port for hexchat: daconcepts.com/6667
15:02 rdococ          nice O
15:02 rdococ          0xBADC0FFEEBABE
15:02 Krock           rdococ, nice L
15:03 JayTheNinja23   channel = #minetestforfun-skyblock
15:03 * JayTheNinja23 is waiting there
15:03 * Krock         isn't
15:03 * JayTheNinja23 why??/
15:03 JayTheNinja23   ?
15:03 * rdococ        isn't not avoiding the concept of not refraining from being there.
15:03 Krock           I don't play on VE's servers
15:03 rdococ          why not?
15:04 JayTheNinja23   do you know who is celeron55?
15:04 rdococ          JayTheNinja23, does anyone here NOT know who celeron55 is?
15:04 Krock           that's some random dood who likes to put himself into the wiki all the time
15:04 JayTheNinja23   I know
15:04 rdococ          exactly :P
15:04 Krock           thinks he's "famous" or "known"
15:04 JayTheNinja23   rdococ?
15:05 rdococ          sorry, my sarcasm detection module is under maintenance, you'll have to tell me
15:05 JayTheNinja23   how do you change your color?
15:05 rdococ          by dousing yourself with paint
15:05 jas_            http://minetest.fensta.bplaced.net/#name=C55
15:05 JayTheNinja23   how?
15:05 rdococ          preferably unleaded paint - maybe diesel
15:05 JayTheNinja23   learn me please
15:05 Krock           use correction tape and put it on the screen
15:05 Krock           then re-colorize
15:06 Krock           </shitpost>
15:06 rdococ          no, you're meant to use GIMP, an open-source camera and an open-source dark magic ritual
15:06 JayTheNinja23   kkk
15:06 JayTheNinja23   let me try
15:08 JayTheNinja23   I don't know
15:08 JayTheNinja23   How ?
15:08 JayTheNinja23   Is a command?
15:08 JayTheNinja23   please help me
15:09 rdococ          oh, it only works in open-source universes
15:09 rdococ          are you in an open-source universe?
15:09 JayTheNinja23   what is that?
15:09 jas_            "Second Life"
15:09 rdococ          heh
15:09 JayTheNinja23   I didn't understand
15:09 JayTheNinja23   sry
15:09 * JayTheNinja23 is so sad
15:09 jas_            you're not alone.  you trying to change your skin/appearance?
15:09 rdococ          jas_: yes, but that's fictional, you need a real one so you can get colored in this universe
15:10 * jas_          implodes
15:10 rdococ          jas_, I think he's joking but I'm not sure
15:10 * JayTheNinja23 has quit +
15:10 rdococ          uh
15:10 jas_            oh
15:10 rdococ          crust
15:10 rdococ          is C + Rust
15:10 jas_            i was thinking spaghettios
15:11 Krock           SpaghettiOS.. programmed entirely with "goto" instructions?
15:12 jas_            haha! yes, that's it.  i wouldn't be surprised if that was a thing, or will be.  sounds delicious
15:12 rdococ          lol
15:13 jas_            https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/a455297d297c0819a7eff89e51e5f01a5ac731c3#commitcomment-24600784 i'm so dumb wahhhh
15:13 jas_            (haha jk, but what does he mean i wonder lol)
15:15 Krock           > 3D wave, uses square function
15:16 Krock           however, could be true, but I don't know tbh :3
15:17 jas_            i wonder if he tried it.  maybe i will it would be a fun challenge
15:17 rdococ          ehe
15:18 jas_            https://youtu.be/jya4geS4eEk?t=27m40s
15:34 jas_            openal is (c) 2007 by creative labs, lol.  mm i had a defective sb16 >_<  and i had to play doom with pc speaker or else it'd randomly crash
15:43 XQ22            hello
15:43 Krock           bye
16:06 jas_            it's weird how sounds disappear suddenly: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/177892434
16:08 CalebDavis      how do you dissable dungeon gen with lua
16:11 Krock           minetest.set_mapgen_setting("mg_flags", "caves, nodungeons, nolight, decorations") or similar
16:12 Krock           ^ CalebDavis
16:12 CalebDavis      ok thx
16:26 Out`Of`Control  Hi
16:27 Out`Of`Control  dirt does not turn into dirt_with_grass.
16:27 jas_            well, it needs grass around it in order to do so
16:27 jas_            it turns into dry grass if dry grass is around, or green grass if that's around.  if there isn't anything adjacent it stays dirt..
16:28 Out`Of`Control  there is huge area only dirt, other huge area dirt_with_grass only 1 chunk dirt in middle
16:32 jas_            https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/a455297d297c0819a7eff89e51e5f01a5ac731c3/src/sound_openal.cpp#L659 <-- this reference distance stayed 30, but createPlayingSoundAt got reference distance changed to 10.0f.  i wonder if that matters
16:32 jas_            (this is fun, i'm glad the sound source files are small, except i didn't look in script/)
16:33 Krock           grass and snowy grass only spreads along a 3x3x3 area
16:33 Krock           (around the main node)
16:36 Out`Of`Control  it does not work
16:39 Out`Of`Control  does it matter how node was placed? WE or node replace tool
16:39 Out`Of`Control  dirt*
16:46 Krock           strange enough, I can't find the code either
16:51 jas_            https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/blob/master/mods/default/functions.lua#L393 ?
16:52 Krock           just found it too. was looking for dirt_with_grass
16:56 Out`Of`Control  Krock:  i think i found. somehow when i place dirt with WE or node replace tool. it does not turn into grass
16:56 Out`Of`Control  works fine when placed by hand
16:56 Krock           the ABM function says something else
16:57 Krock           no matter how it's placed, if there's grass nearby, it'll spread
16:59 jas_            if there's light (?)
17:00 Taose           Stay away from the light, it's just an illusion
17:00 jas_            if light is less than 13 it doesn't spread, i think
17:23 jas_            so i observed carts can be heard some 30 nodes away, doors and chests only 10.  i really don't know there's a difference in the sound of the doors with this positional change tbh
17:26 Krock           jas_, lolwat? All light sources spread - depends on the value how far they do
17:26 Krock           nvm, wrong context, sorry :3
17:26 Taose           Carts being louder than doors is perfectly normal
17:27 Taose           If anything they should be louder...
17:27 jas_            https://www.twitch.tv/videos/177910614
17:28 Taose           ...
17:28 jas_            i'm observing sound played at a location versus attached to an object
17:28 * Taose         is the only person in the world Twitch doesn't work for apparently
17:28 jas_            i just thought it was interesting
17:29 jas_            why doesn't twitch work for you taose?
17:30 jas_            i use an old build of obs
17:31 jas_            (i did a pretty crude test, there, but it seems to me the door is actually 0.5 db louder now.)
17:31 jas_            hhehe o/
17:39 Taose           No idea jas_ , it just comes up with the logo and that's pretty much all it does
17:39 theboy222       bonjour
17:39 Taose           I assume it must be heavily script based, which are filtered out elsewhere in the network
17:40 Taose           (lots of things don't work for me)
17:43 rdococ          ayy
17:50 MinetestBot     02[git] 04nerzhul -> 03minetest/minetest: Add session_t typedef + remove unused functions (#6470) 13ad7daf7 https://git.io/vdmwr (152017-09-27T17:47:36Z)
17:51 twoelk          Taose did you ask for greyscale hightmap inports?
17:52 twoelk          WorldPainter -> https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=16649 might help as it can build maps from hightmaps and can export to minetest
17:55 Taose           I'll take a look at that :) Thanks
19:19 Taose           It looks like I have to waiit for WorldPainter to be useful for Minetest?
19:19 deltasquared    !mod worldpainter
19:19 MinetestBot     deltasquared: Could not find anything.
19:20 deltasquared    Taose: which one was that again
19:20 Taose           https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=16649&sid=7fcd88382e59c7c0951710a041481d0b&start=125
19:21 deltasquared    Taose: I'm not familiar with the mod from... the *other* block game that he's referring to
19:22 Taose           Neither am I
19:25 sfan5           Taose: experimental working support is already available
19:25 deltasquared    I'd still have to look up what worldpainter is supposed to be.
19:26 sfan5           also it's probably easier to convince some dev to write a luamapgen that imports from a bmp heightmap
19:26 deltasquared    I never did like lua mapgens, blocking the event thread up...
19:26 deltasquared    v7 certainly has come along enough for me not to care
19:29 Taose           If I'm not prepared to pay for it, I'm not gonna go begging for scraps
19:30 Taose           While a lua map gen that would import from a height map would be useful, there are apparently mods in the works that would solve the issue
19:30 Taose           it's just a matter of waiting for the devs to get around to completing them
19:41 twoelk          you can also generate a mc-map with worldpainter and convert that by using some of the other tools mentioned in that thread
19:49 Taose           Unfortunately the height map I want to use goes beyond the minecraft range apparently
19:50 twoelk          :-(
19:50 Taose           It's just a case of waiting
19:50 twoelk          well I did use the plugin script he provided and it worked well enough for a simple map
19:51 twoelk          you will have to try some tweaking though to get the waterlevel right and somewhat pleasing borders
20:00 Taose           Probably
20:44 MinetestBot     02[git] 04nerzhul -> 03minetest/minetest: Lint fix 1343951cf https://git.io/vdmNd (152017-09-27T20:41:50Z)
21:04 MinetestBot     02[git] 04paramat -> 03minetest/minetest: Fix recent commit: std::max -> std::fmax for floats (#6469) 130df3671 https://git.io/vdmpl (152017-09-27T21:03:41Z)
21:49 MinetestBot     02[git] 04nerzhul -> 03minetest/minetest: Fix some forgotten u16 -> session_t in ad7daf7b52348e1b71aa803be10de5… 1327eeb35 https://git.io/vdYJe (152017-09-27T21:48:12Z)
22:02 redblade7       how do you hide the map again?
22:08 redblade7       the minimap in the upper right hand corner
22:12 sofar           F10? F9? one of those two :)
22:13 rubenwardy      F9 :D
22:22 redblade7       btw i was just informed of a new counterfeit client
22:22 redblade7       "Block Craft" and it's a chinese client
22:27 sofar           it's open source, how can it be "counterfeit" ?
22:27 sofar           lol
22:27 sofar           you mean "gpl violating"
22:30 sofar           redblade7: "block craft" or "block craft 3d" ?
22:33 redblade7       he just said "block craft"
22:33 redblade7       i just say "counterfeit" to discourage people
22:34 redblade7       and it's not the real thing, even though it's not illegal