Time  Nick        Message
04:48 InterVi     дратути
04:48 InterVi     hi all
11:54 MinetestBot 02[git] 04vlapsley -> 03minetest/minetest: Mapgen: Add Carpathian mapgen (#6015) 13a80ecbe https://git.io/vQwtO (152017-07-06T11:53:56Z)
18:36 Lugal       Hello
18:36 Lugal       can you tell me pls, where are the animations of the models saved?
18:37 Lugal       I mean, are they usually saved in the model file? or in the game's binary? or is there a separate file for animations?
18:38 Raven262    They are in the model file i think
18:39 calcul0n    i think model files define bones which can be controlled by a lua script
18:39 calcul0n    that's what i understood from what i read, but don't know much about that
18:40 calcul0n    they can also be animated textures for simple things, ie multiple frames packed in one texture
18:42 Raven262    I thought that there are already defined animation saved in the model file.
18:42 Raven262    Namely: Walk, dig, walk and dig
18:42 Lugal       hm
18:42 Raven262    But i have no experience with this so i might be wrong.
18:42 Lugal       how can I access the animation?
18:42 Raven262    Use blender
18:43 Lugal       for example from bledner??
18:43 Raven262    Just open it in blender
18:43 Raven262    There should be some animations tab or something, I don't really know how to use blender
18:44 Lugal       ok, I'll try
18:57 KaadmY      Minetest carpathian mapgen stable release wen
18:58 KaadmY      It's gorgrous
18:58 KaadmY      gorgeous*
18:58 KaadmY      https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/305843485687414796/332587726824275988/screenshot_20170706_112106.png
18:58 KaadmY      https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/312390672105734144/332587848463286273/screenshot_20170706_112139.png
19:08 Raven262    The best mapgen around imo
19:13 KaadmY      +1
19:13 Lugal       why is the b3d format used, if its not openable by blender? and why is it not openable?
19:14 KaadmY      Probably because it's the default model format for animated models in Irrlicht
19:14 KaadmY      You can use .obj for static meshes, but they can't be animated
19:16 calcul0n    b3d is not supported by default in blender, but maybe there are plugins for that
19:17 calcul0n    it's a common export format used by many games
19:17 calcul0n    the best would be to find the original .blend file, but you'll have to ask the author if it's not included in the mod sources
19:17 KaadmY      I have a nondefault b3d exporter
19:18 KaadmY      The default one doesn't work and has glitches in Minetest
19:19 calcul0n    if you're just looking for an example the goblins mod includes the .blend
21:35 KaadmY      Lugal: if you're curious, Minetest supports .x, .b3d, .md2, and .obj
21:35 KaadmY      Looking through the code right now
22:45 Lugal       hmm
22:46 bigfoot547  hmmm
22:46 Lugal       I tried to replay the b3d file with another x file, and it didnt word either :'(
22:46 Lugal       I replace the zombie b3d with some model from opengameart website, but the zombies invisible now :(
22:50 KaadmY      Replace the texture for it with a fully opaque one
22:50 KaadmY      Scale might also be huge or tiny
22:51 Lugal       i took the texture from the model from internet and change it from jpg to png
22:57 sofar       models not made for MT usually need re-uv mapping
22:57 sofar       they may have embedded textures in them too that MT does not see