Time  Nick           Message
00:07 bigfoot547     !rainbow Yay! Rainbows!
00:07 MinetestBot    4Ya7y! 8Rai3nbo12ws!6
00:23 wilkgr         I just learnt that "racecar" is a palindrome
00:23 bigfoot547     Palindrome is not a palindrome!
00:24 bigfoot547     😲
00:26 deinoguy1      rainbows?
00:26 bigfoot547     Yeah, type !rainbow, then your text,
00:27 deinoguy1      !rainbow Awesome.
00:27 MinetestBot    4Aw7es8om3e.
00:40 XtremeHacker   Anyone know where MT installs to when you compile it?
00:44 bigfoot547     No idea. I just don't run sudo make install
00:45 bigfoot547     What's up with the 0.5.0-dev tag?
00:46 bigfoot547     Has 0.5.0 already happened?
00:47 bigfoot547     No, there have been 2,258 commits since this tag...
00:47 bigfoot547     Here's a link: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/releases/tag/0.5.0-dev
00:48 bigfoot547     Also, Are we ever going to have a minetest 1.0?
00:51 rubenwardy     that branch isn't used
00:51 rubenwardy     0.5 is either going to be the next release, or the one after
00:52 rubenwardy     however it's probably the one after, as nerzhul wants the next to be 0.4.16 (it allows more time for breaking features for 0.5)
00:52 bigfoot547     Also, Are we ever going to have a 1.0?
00:53 rubenwardy     no idea
00:53 VanessaE       rubenwardy: well given how different 0.4.16 will be from 0.4.15 in terms of features, combined with the map version bump.....  I have to wonder if 0.5.0 wouldn't be a better idea.
00:53 rubenwardy     makes sense
00:54 rubenwardy     no reason why we couldn't go to 0.6.0 for more breaking change
00:54 rubenwardy     +s
00:54 VanessaE       indeed
00:57 bigfoot547     👍
00:57 bigfoot547     I don't know this unicode, it is a replacement char for me. Please be a thumbs-up
00:58 VanessaE       http://emojipedia.org/thumbs-up-sign/
00:58 VanessaE       it is.
00:59 bigfoot547     Good. I used character map.
00:59 VanessaE       neither my browser nor hexchat display it though
01:00 VanessaE       my fonts are probably out-of-date.
01:01 bigfoot547     Me to
01:01 Voltz          lol when in clash of clans and you have 10 elixir collectors being raged
01:03 bigfoot547     I clicked over here and suddeenly died in happy wheels
05:44 MinetestBot    02[git] 04paramat -> 03minetest/minetest: Minimal: Add river water nodes (#5809) 13649f641 https://git.io/vHmtV (152017-05-24T05:43:17Z)
05:47 MinetestBot    02[git] 04rubenwardy -> 03minetest/minetest: Add formspec escaping to subgame list in create world dialog (#5808) 13e8fb1f7 https://git.io/vHmtX (152017-05-24T05:45:23Z)
06:22 MinetestBot    02[git] 04paramat -> 03minetest/minetest_game: Settings: Use new settings object 13eec1c5a https://git.io/vHmmR (152017-05-24T06:18:26Z)
06:57 MinetestBot    02[git] 04nerzhul -> 03minetest/minetest: Revert 1469424 and fix wrong char position when doing mouse selection… 13099624a https://git.io/vHm3v (152017-05-24T06:56:40Z)
08:28 Elench         What's the best mod that supports pooping?
09:40 zyabin101      a'i
09:42 zyabin101      hmm, a bug(?) in 0.4.15 stable allows me to fall off the block :/
09:43 Markow         👋 Good morning (almost afternoon) 👋 !
09:43 zyabin101      @Markow 13:43 *here*
09:44 Markow         Must be more east of me ... Russia?
09:44 zyabin101      aye
09:44 Markow         ;)
09:45 zyabin101      Time to make some textures!
10:45 zyabin101      o_o
11:55 zyabin101      The Feature Freeze of 2017 has happened, what do I need to know?
11:56 sfan5          read the commit log ;)
12:05 Out`Of`Control what commit?
12:20 Fixer          all of them!1
12:21 Fixer          Out`Of`Control: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commits/master
12:34 Fixer          current rough changelog: https://pastebin.com/raw/MNuNsFX4
12:36 Fixer          will reupdate
12:36 red-001        that looks like a list of commits
12:37 Fixer          yep
12:37 DS-minetest    +
12:40 Fixer          here is corrected list: https://pastebin.com/raw/maTFqmKh
12:42 DS-minetest    i wouldn't mix the game changes and core changes together
12:43 Fixer          DS-minetest: they are not
12:45 DS-minetest    oops, true, sry >_<
12:46 ThomasMonroe   hi DS
12:47 DS-minetest    hi ThomasMonroe
12:47 DS-minetest    oh, and
12:47 DS-minetest    hi MinetestBot
12:47 MinetestBot    Hi DS-minetest
12:53 zyabin101      hey MinetestBot
12:53 MinetestBot    Hello zyabin101
12:53 zyabin101      hey MinetestBot?
12:53 * zyabin101    records
13:00 zyabin101      ^ Kludges wont work!
13:01 zyabin101      Now: how do I assign cobblestone as stone in the mapgen?
13:02 zyabin101      Next, how do I make a default for any mapgen node that is *not* liquid?
13:57 yusf[m]        I don't understand CSM. Can they be distributed by a server, still?
13:58 VanessaE       right now CSM is strictly for local mods that can run while you're on a server
13:58 VanessaE       the server still runs all the actual mods
13:59 VanessaE       CSM is roughly equivalent to a local browser add-on such as Fast Dial or Privacy Badger
14:00 yusf[m]        So even if say the minimap can now be controlled in more ways be means of CSM, mods and subgames on server have no use of that then?
14:00 VanessaE       where as regular mods are more like a plugin for the web server, or say server-side Java applets
14:00 VanessaE       subgames on the server are supposed to be able to disable the minimap, I THINK, but I don't know otherwise
14:01 VanessaE       for now, just think of CSM as being able to tweak the specific behavior of your client, without having any real effect on the server.
14:02 yusf[m]        I see, that sounds useful for some. But isn't the idea to be able to offload server processing to the client-side, long-term?
14:02 VanessaE       at some point in the future, the server will be able to send CSM code and execute it on your client, similar to Javascript on your web browser
14:02 yusf[m]        Yes, servers may disable them but can't otherwise control its modes, zoom and style.
14:03 VanessaE       I don't know what the situation will be as far as "load sharing"
14:04 yusf[m]        That is great, can't wait! As long as one can control the whole experience from the server, be it partly by CSM, I'm happy.
14:05 yusf[m]        In more than a few GH issues lives the sentiment that "let's wait until we can do this in CSM", while very little is known of a CSM roadmap/rollout plan.
14:07 VanessaE       that's because CSM is still experimental :)
14:08 zyabin101_     I just realised that I had not ghosted ^
14:09 zyabin101      How can I set cobblestone as the mapgen default for nodes that are not liquid?
14:09 * red-001      might have to remove CSM from the list of words to high light
14:09 VanessaE       no idea
14:09 zyabin101      okay...
14:10 zyabin101      How do I set it to generate with the mapgen?
14:10 VanessaE       no idea on that either :)
14:11 cheapie        zyabin101: Here's a simple Lua mapgen, if it helps: https://github.com/cheapie/flatperiod/blob/master/init.lua
14:14 yusf[m]        VanessaE: Thank you for the clarifications on CSM. :)
14:17 VanessaE       don't quote me, yusf[m]  :)
14:17 VanessaE       I might be 100% wrong :)
14:24 yusf[m]        I promise :D
14:33 zyabin101      Which `mapgen_` aliases do exist?
14:33 zyabin101      lua_api.txt doesn't seem to say.
14:33 rubenwardy     games/minetest_game/mods/default/mapgen.lua
14:33 rubenwardy     this should be better documented though
14:47 zyabin101      Fun fact: when you omit a wieldhand, the "dumb wieldhand" molds to the shape of the item.
14:48 zyabin101      When starting out, it is a small voxel.
14:48 zyabin101      I give the player a cobblestone node, place it.
14:49 zyabin101      As a result, the wieldhand becomes the size of a node XD
18:16 An0n3m0us      Can any1 point me out to the HOMETOWN irc?
18:48 An0n3m0us      Anyone know what channel HOMETOWN is on?
18:49 rom1504        the third one
18:50 Krock          I believe (s)he would like to know the IRC channel name
18:51 rom1504        I believe so too
18:51 Krock          no explicit channel found on inchranet
18:53 An0n3m0us      third one?
18:53 An0n3m0us      like #minetest for here, what is HOMETOME channel
18:56 rubenwardy     /irc_channel ?
18:56 rubenwardy     there's a command to find out
18:56 rubenwardy     also, it's likely to be on irc.inchra.net
18:57 An0n3m0us      ok, when I go to there, how do I find it?
18:58 rom1504        An0n3m0us: count to three
18:59 An0n3m0us      ?
19:00 rom1504        one two three, you left
19:00 rom1504        anyway
19:01 rom1504        clearly there's no irc chan for it
19:01 Krock          An0n3m0us, asked a player from the server on IRC here.. let's see if he knows more
19:01 rom1504        https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=16699 no mention here, no mention on google, no chan with hometown in the description in /list of irc.inchra.net
19:01 Krock          rom1504, one two three you're fired
19:02 Krock          as in: real fire
19:02 An0n3m0us      ok thx guys. bye 5 now
19:02 rom1504        here we go
19:02 rom1504        your fire worked Krock
19:02 Krock          wrong person
19:02 rom1504        :D
19:37 AntumDeluge    I am having a problem getting inventory_plus mod to work again on my local server: https://s6.postimg.org/s027af5pd/screenshot_20170523_170320.png
19:38 AntumDeluge    I had uninstalled it to try out sfinv mod, then re-installed. But I can't get it to work again. I only get basic inventory.
19:38 AntumDeluge    Forum post here: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=17681
19:57 swift110       hey
19:58 Krock          AntumDeluge, do you use the most recent version of the armor mod?
19:59 Krock          since it's the mod that produces such an inventory
20:00 AntumDeluge    Using stable version of 3d_armor: 0.4.9 (793c748 Git)
20:01 AntumDeluge    I removed 3d_armor_sfinv & 3d_armor_ui mods.
20:03 AntumDeluge    Oh, I think I just figured out what is going on....
20:03 Krock          hmm?
20:04 AntumDeluge    inventory_plus is not loading because 'creative' mod is not being recognized/loaded.
20:05 Krock          ah, there we go
20:05 AntumDeluge    I'll try to fix that & see if 'inventory_plus' starts working.
20:06 Krock          well, the current creative mod uses sfinv too, so the best way to solve this would be to use a previous version of it
20:15 AntumDeluge    Yep, that is exactly the problem. There is a circle of dependencies: inventory_plus -> creative -> sfinv
20:15 AntumDeluge    So, I think you are right. I need to downgrade 'creative'.
20:19 Krock          https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/blob/022d22cecaa902827cbf05ca70e63ad342b51acf/mods/creative/init.lua
20:19 Krock          pretty much only overwriting your init.lua with this old one
20:20 Krock          but it won't support automatic item colorization
20:20 Krock          because that feature was added later
20:38 AntumDeluge    I downgraded all mods from 'minetest_game' to stable version (0.4.15) & that alone seems to have fixed the problem.
20:38 AntumDeluge    Didn't have to remove 'sfinv' nor edit 'creative'.
20:41 AntumDeluge    I'm satisfied with this solution for now, though I don't know what other artifacts might arise from it. Thank you Krock.
21:05 rubenwardy     AntumDeluge, 3d_armor supports sfinv
21:06 AntumDeluge    Yes, I am aware rubenwardy. But I have other mods installed that do not support 'sfinv'. That is why, for now, I want to stick with 'inventory_plus'.
21:06 rubenwardy     what mods, btw?
21:07 AntumDeluge    'bags' by cornernote is one. I'll have to look over which others. I believe they were also by cornernote, who is also the author of 'inventory_plus'.
21:26 AntumDeluge    'home_gui' & 'bookmarks_gui' (both by cornernote) are the others that depend on 'inventory_plus'.
21:27 AntumDeluge    From what I understand, the 'sfinv_buttons' mod should allow compatibility between these mods & 'sfinv', but I haven't figured it out yet.
22:13 IhrFussel      Is there no way to RESET the sky for players? Or am I missing something? Like what if I want to set a custom sky but later use the regular one again?
22:24 Calinou        IhrFussel: you can set the default sky I think…
22:26 IhrFussel      Calinou, I only found the bgtype and color/image parameters... Not sure where to write "default" or do I need to nil the sky maybe?
22:26 Calinou        https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt#L3085-L3092
22:27 Calinou        I think you want to set the "regular" type
22:27 Calinou        you can set any bgcolor, it does not matter
22:29 IhrFussel      Ok thanks for the link...so "regular" means "ignore any custom sky setting and display the default one again"? Awesome
22:30 Calinou        I guess
23:08 AntumDeluge    Is there an instruction manual/wiki page about 'mod.conf' files & all possible entries?
23:08 AntumDeluge    Already looked at http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/Mod.conf
23:25 wilkgr         The web page at https://forum.minetest.net/posting.php?mode=edit&f=55&t=17680&p=272213 might be temporarily down or it may have moved permanently to a new web address.