Time Nick Message 01:09 aldobr hi all 01:11 kaeza greetings, aldobr 01:11 aldobr I cannot log in to minetest forums, if I try to recover my password, it says "The e-mail/username information submitted could not be found.", but the username exists (and my email is the same as when I registered). 01:11 aldobr if I search for my forum posts, the user "aldobr" exists and has the same avatar etc, it was not deleted 01:14 aldobr kaeza watch this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qv6UVOQ0F44 (this is an evolutionary neural network written in lua) 01:14 aldobr now with client side scripting, might be possible to run neural networks on clients to control bots 01:14 aldobr (distribute the load) 03:47 MinetestBot 02[git] 04sofar -> 03minetest/minetest_game: Chest open model: UV map fix. 13c7d558c https://git.io/v9rZV (152017-05-08T03:47:17Z) 03:47 MinetestBot 02[git] 04sofar -> 03minetest/minetest_game: Fix nil deref issue with people hitting chests too often. 1355f81d0 https://git.io/v9rZw (152017-05-08T03:47:17Z) 03:47 MinetestBot 02[git] 04SmallJoker -> 03minetest/minetest_game: Chests: Keep old textures for mod compability 13a533434 https://git.io/v9rZr (152017-05-08T03:46:49Z) 04:15 epoch o/ 04:18 redblade7 new textures for chests? 04:18 redblade7 i know i liked the old bones better than the new ones 04:18 redblade7 wasnt too happy when you changed those 04:18 redblade7 they look cuter now instead of realistic 05:05 MinetestBot 02[git] 04paramat -> 03minetest/minetest: Custom step height: Fix implementation 135e04f1a https://git.io/v9rCq (152017-05-08T04:59:19Z) 05:05 MinetestBot 02[git] 04paramat -> 03minetest/minetest: Shaders: Remove unused water surface shader 133342dcc https://git.io/v9rCm (152017-05-08T04:58:59Z) 05:05 slemonide hey 05:05 slemonide what happened to nyancats? 05:07 epoch brutally murdered 05:07 nore *surgically removed 05:08 nore (to avoid potential legal issues) 05:08 slemonide you monsters 05:09 nore slemonide: they still are available as a mod 05:12 nore see https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=17101 05:13 sofar didn't I throw it in minetest-mods yet? 05:13 epoch bah. 05:15 nore sofar: don't remember, pbj_pup is there at least 05:15 nore not sure about nyan cat (doesn't it contradict the rules of minetest-mods though?) 05:15 sofar hmmmm you're right, I threw in pbj_pup 05:17 slemonide world is a terrible place 05:21 redblade7 nyancats removed? 05:21 redblade7 what legal issue 05:21 redblade7 are we being sued for things now? 05:22 sofar no, but nyan cat is a registered trademark, and the trademark holder has protected that trademark on several occasions 05:22 sofar therefore, the mod is effectively -NC -ND licensed and therefore is in violation of the minetest license spirit 05:23 VanessaE PB&J Pup was supposed to be the answer to that. 05:23 VanessaE people didn't like it. 05:23 sofar people hate change 05:23 VanessaE yeah 05:23 sofar that's why they vote conservative 05:24 redblade7 what about that machine in homedecor? they've been suing people constantly and is the exception for cloning games because they won in court 05:25 redblade7 would hate to see that go 05:25 redblade7 is this becoming an issue now? 05:25 VanessaE what, the tetris minigame? 05:25 sofar homedecor isn't in minetest 05:25 sofar period 05:25 sofar end of debate 05:25 redblade7 yeah 05:25 sofar we're talking minetest/minetest_game 05:25 redblade7 no i meant the mod 05:25 redblade7 oh ok 05:26 sofar anyone can make anything 05:26 redblade7 i thought you were talking about any mod at all 05:26 sofar you could make a mod with coca cola signs 05:26 sofar I could care less 05:26 sofar but it will never make it into minetest_game 05:26 VanessaE afaik they'd have no grounds to sue, because the person who implemented it is dead anyway 05:26 VanessaE the coke machine in Homedecor is exempt - it uses only out-of-copyright imagery 05:27 sofar it's actually likely a proper use of trademark 05:27 redblade7 tetris? 05:27 sofar you're not using it to sell fake coke 05:27 VanessaE right 05:27 VanessaE totally different market, so no grounds 05:28 redblade7 i think the tetris developers are the only example of suing a game clone successfully in history and as a result tetris clones are banned pretty much everywhere 05:29 redblade7 there's something on wikipedia i think about it 05:29 sofar irrelevant, nyan cat was removed from minetest_game because the minetest_game devs agreed on it 05:29 redblade7 ok 05:29 VanessaE I imagine only commercial clones of tetris are at risk anyway 05:30 redblade7 i wasnt talking about minetest_game, just in general 05:30 sofar we were not 05:30 redblade7 always kinda wondered with regard to some of the homedecor modpack items 05:30 sofar and honesly, I don't want to talk about other random mods 05:30 sofar here's a can of worms 05:30 sofar DONT OPEN IT 05:30 VanessaE heh 05:31 * sofar shoos redblade7 with a legal disclaimer 05:31 * VanessaE hands sofar a bag of cats to go with the canm 05:31 VanessaE -m 05:31 redblade7 i dont think there's anything wrong with pb&j pup, has a confetti look 05:31 VanessaE it was supposed to be candy :( 05:31 redblade7 my servers use stable code but i wont mind when there's the switch over 05:32 slemonide idk, nyancats kind of gave minetest a distinct taste 05:33 slemonide imho, the void needs to be replaced with something 05:35 VanessaE slemonide: that's what PB&J Pup was for, like I said. 05:35 VanessaE I created the base imagery to replace the nyan cat but still keeping a sort of "cutesy" character and name specific to Minetest. 05:36 VanessaE sofar: maybe you guys should put it back in, just ditch the sound effects and animation? 05:36 redblade7 nyancats has sound and animation? 05:37 sofar pbj_pup has 05:39 slemonide Also, is there any chance that there will be legal problems with minetest resembling minecraft? 05:40 VanessaE nope. 05:40 VanessaE only if minecraft is in some legal risk for resembling infiniminer. 05:40 VanessaE (the game on which it was based) 05:41 slemonide oh, ok then 05:41 VanessaE you can't copyright basic elements like dirt, sand, cobblestone, etc, and the overall nature of the game has plenty of pre-Minecraft prior art 05:41 VanessaE none of minetest's code imagery or other assets is taken from Minecraft (or any other game for that matter) 05:42 VanessaE so basically, Microsoft wouldn't have any standing to complain 06:03 redblade7 why does opening and closing minetest move pulseaudio to 100% 06:03 redblade7 it's really annoying 06:03 redblade7 sometimes 0% 06:31 YuGiOhJCJ redblade7, not on my system I run pavucontrol, then I set all my bars to 60%, then I run minetest, then I close minetest, then my bars are still at 60% (not 100%) 07:32 w_laenger I want to request a change in code style guidelines. 07:33 w_laenger When you want to increment or decrement a variable by 1, you should be allowed to leave out the spaces. 07:37 w_laenger So for example if you would write ++i in cpp, in lua you can write i = i+1 instead of i = i + 1 07:40 w_laenger You can always leave out the spaces when in-/decrementing the variable by 1 and you want to have the "neighbour". 07:43 w_laenger e.g. When appending a new value into a table t, you're allowed to write t[#t+1] = v instead of t[#t + 1] = v, but when you explicitly want to add 1 to some value you mustn't omit the spaces, e.g. playerpos.y = playerpos.y + 1. 07:45 w_laenger Are there any objections? 08:08 w_laenger Ok, I think there're no objections. 08:20 IhrFussel Hello^^ regarding the new "[randomname][XXX]" player names I think I found the cause: It's Multicraft now forcing the users to be a VIP (paying) to be able to use their regular names 08:22 IhrFussel Someone on my server told me that his app (supposedly Multicraft) doesn't let him use his old name anymore without paying for VIP...That is the VERY DEFINITION of unacceptable if true 08:25 IhrFussel Or maybe Multicraft locks accounts to devices and the players lose their old devices effectively losing their accounts without being a VIP ... either way it's UNACCEPTABLE 08:27 IhrFussel Since iOS users don't have much other choices in terms of Minetest clients 09:11 JamesTait Good morning all! Happy Monday, and happy Iris Day! 😃 🌷 09:39 sfan5 IhrFussel: it's clearly not Multicraft since the iOS app does not even support multiplayer 09:41 IhrFussel sfan5, are you sure? Many players say they use Multicraft on iOS ... and they say "fly" is locked behind a paywall ... now it seems to also lock accounts behind paywalls 09:42 sfan5 maybe its a different app named similarily 09:42 sfan5 because this https://github.com/MultiCraftProject/MultiCraft for sure doesn't support multiplayer on ios 09:43 IhrFussel Well if it isn't Multicraft then it's another that MANY people seem to use (since those random names + 3 digit number appear on every server) 09:44 IhrFussel It's a shame that we can't do anything against it...really bad that the licenses don't meet the requirements in the App Store, now a MAJORITY of players will "lose" their accounts 09:48 IhrFussel Almost 100!! players with such names joined alone yesterday on my server...now imagine if EACH of them lost their account due to this paywall thing...That's CRAZY 13:30 IhrFussel I took a look at some of the servers now...and I gotta say...SOME servers have ridiculous rules "don't argue with admins/moderators" WHAT? Admins/moderators cannot be wrong? What kind of slavery is that? 13:32 IhrFussel When I read some of those rules I feel like throwing up...like the server owner would be some kind of god 13:33 IhrFussel "No dating" it is NONE of the staff's business what players do privately on a server 13:34 IhrFussel I would understand "No dating in the public chat" but to prohibit any kind of dating is just stupid 13:38 IhrFussel I'm GLAD that reading PMs for fun is illegal here in Germany, I don't wanna know what the admins do on other servers where it's fine 13:43 IhrFussel Ah another stupid rule "Be loyal to this server" AWESOME, now when I play on another servers and an admin/moderator catches me I will be in trouble 13:51 Calinou I suggest that instead of giving good rules, we give bad rules. 13:51 Calinou - No joining server after 8PM 13:51 Calinou - Dating server admins will get you privileges 13:51 Calinou - Please beg for items only on Mondays 13:52 Calinou https://xkcd.com/1820/ 13:54 IhrFussel Calinou, the 2nd rule might eben exist *shrug* 13:54 IhrFussel even* 13:55 IhrFussel Well maybe not as a "rule" but I could imagine that there are some owners that take advantage of their status and use it for hitting up girls 13:55 IhrFussel on girls* 13:57 IhrFussel Probably even young girls... 14:04 Markow Haha, no dating! 14:04 Markow And admins of servers should be open to constructive criticism. 14:13 IhrFussel Markow, but how would the admin feel supercool then? xP 14:14 Markow lol 14:15 IhrFussel Admins shouldn't just be open to criticism...they should simply let regular players ARGUE with them if necessary IMO 14:17 IhrFussel Cause an admin is also just a simple person who makes mistakes...you shouldn't try to run away from your problems 14:18 IhrFussel But that is exactly what many people online do when they are in charge of something...they think they are in their own little world now and everything should follow their rules...it's disgusting 14:18 ThomasMonroe_ i agree there 14:21 IhrFussel It doesn't have to be a server they own...it can also just be a simple web chat, or YouTube account...they act like pricks from another planet who know better no matter what 14:24 IhrFussel One of my reasons to offer a server was because I knew I am NOT like this (and I think quite a few other server admins in Minetest share my thoughts) and I wanted to provide a FAIR world where nobody is better than another...I feel like a regular player with more responsibility and IMHO that is how an admin should act like 14:24 ThomasMonroe_ im one of the admins that agree 14:24 Markow IhrFussel: What type of server do you run? Creative, PvP, etc 14:27 IhrFussel Markow, it's largely survival but with a creative twist: You earn Creative Points from building/digging/chatting and when you got enough you can take exchange those points for an item stack from the menu...PvP is only enabled in a certain area 14:27 IhrFussel -take* 14:28 IhrFussel But the use of CP is entirely optional...players can also ignore it and just craft everything they need 14:30 IhrFussel But my server is almost dead right now...too much rivalry I'm guessing 14:33 Markow IhrFussel: A great type of server would be a Creative one where players have a designated area of about 200x200 blocks to build a city or town and have them all connected via railway, with a station in every town. 14:34 Markow I'm not sure how many of this type are out there now. 14:34 IhrFussel My server has 40+ cities now, most of them aren't finished but IF you would connect all those cities it would be like a country haha 14:34 Markow Wow, great 14:35 Markow So you have no railway yet? 14:36 IhrFussel One of my moderators started connecting nearby cities to theirs via roads (since my server has cars) 14:36 ThomasMonroe_ which server is yours? 14:36 IhrFussel IhrFussel's Server 14:36 ThomasMonroe_ ok 14:37 IhrFussel My server was extremely popular ones...with 20+ players 24/7 in case you wonder how those cities were created on such a "dead" server 14:37 IhrFussel once* 14:38 Markow These cities are spread out? 14:38 IhrFussel Players chose any random location and started to build 14:39 IhrFussel There is an ingame list of (almost) all cities...I made it so players can instantly tp to them by typing the city name in the chat 14:39 MinetestBot 02[git] 04numberZero -> 03minetest-mods/mesecons: Fix crash when error()ing an invalid value 13564bdc2 https://git.io/v9o43 (152017-05-08T14:34:30Z) 14:40 ThomasMonroe_ thats cool 14:42 IhrFussel But of course since every city was built by another player the quality varies A LOT 14:42 ThomasMonroe_ as one would expect 14:45 IhrFussel ThomasMonroe_, true but it also makes it kinda difficult to "present" you know x) 14:46 ThomasMonroe_ yeah i understand 14:46 IhrFussel There are a few cities that I personally find ugly and rubbish...but I can't remove them since I have no reason to do so 14:46 ThomasMonroe_ true 14:47 IhrFussel I share the opinion that players kinda "own" the stuff they built 14:48 Markow Hehe, so you then have 'slums' on the map, which is realistic! 14:48 ThomasMonroe_ but not very appealing 14:48 IhrFussel Markow, I think one city was made out of dirt lol 14:49 Markow haha! 14:53 IhrFussel Markow, the best city I think is "Little Japan" ... it's the city of one of my moderators and it looks very Japanese actually 14:54 IhrFussel You even drive on the other lane compared to USA/major Europe 14:55 Markow That's nice! 14:56 Markow The Far East architecture adds good diversity 15:00 IhrFussel Yep...she worked for weeks on it now and it's still not quite done yet 15:02 IhrFussel I should mention that she uses WorldEdit constantly too so a build with WE that takes weeks is...something 16:40 fadavi anyone here is running minetest on GNU/Linux? 16:41 ThomasMonroe_ i am 16:42 IhrFussel My server runs on Ubuntu...should count too x) 16:42 Out`Of`Control no 16:42 Out`Of`Control debian here 16:43 fadavi Out`Of`Control, IhrFussel, ThomasMonroe_: im trying to run minetest on Ubuntu 17.04. its OK, but it seems that available version on Ubuntu repos is too old. 16:43 ThomasMonroe_ .13? 16:43 Out`Of`Control compile it 16:43 ThomasMonroe_ ^ 16:43 fadavi ThomasMonroe_: 0.4.15 16:44 IhrFussel fadavi, Calinou provides a one-liner in the forums...just google "Calinou ubuntu one-liner" 16:44 ThomasMonroe_ thats not that old 16:44 ThomasMonroe_ i typically play on .13 :) 16:44 Out`Of`Control 0.4.15 is last stable one 16:44 fadavi IhrFussel: thanks, will try it now. 16:46 fadavi ThomasMonroe_, Out`Of`Control: so... i think i've problem with mods! could not activate some mods like monsters, etc. 16:46 IhrFussel It will automatically install all dependencies, fetch the newest Minetest from git + minetest game and then compile... fadavi do you need it as client or server? 16:46 Krock just grab the source from master and revert to HEAD~20 to ensure there's no wrecked collision box change 16:46 Krock compile & you'll even have fancy client side modding 16:46 Out`Of`Control fadavi: look in debug.txt 16:47 Calinou hi 16:47 ThomasMonroe_ hi DS 16:47 DS-minetest hi ThomasMonroe_ 16:48 fadavi IhrFussel: im new to minetest; was playing Minecraft. but, as i heared, Minetest is free and decided to try it. so... if i can successfully run it, will start a server for my family :D 16:48 ThomasMonroe_ ok cool 16:48 IhrFussel Oh so you run it on your PC with GUI? Then it's alright to just run the one-liner as is 16:49 Krock quite depressing that the only motivation to give Minetest a try is the money 16:49 fadavi Out`Of`Control: its better to install mods from Ubuntu repos or github?! 16:49 IhrFussel github 16:49 fadavi IhrFussel: yes 16:50 fadavi IhrFussel: thanks. 16:50 Krock git clone directly, that's the most common and best "supported" way 16:50 DS-minetest fadavi: use the ppa 16:50 DS-minetest it's easier 16:50 ThomasMonroe_ if it works DS ;) 16:50 IhrFussel On github you will *usually* always have the newest versions + patches 16:51 * DS-minetest is happy with the daily ppa 16:52 fadavi DS-minetest: which ppa? that includes mods too? 16:52 Out`Of`Control mods in ppa??? 16:52 red-001 anything is possible in ubuntu land 16:53 fadavi Out`Of`Control: idk. official repos includes some of mods. like 'animalmaterials', 'animals', 'maidroid', etc. i guessed the ppa should be more completed :) 16:53 Krock fadavi, he meant getting Minetest from there, not the mods 16:54 DS-minetest actually you can find eg. pipeworks in synaptic 16:54 red-001 RE: Players connecting with random names. I'm pretty sure I once saw a minetest fork on google play that included a whole giant list of names in it's source code 16:57 DS-minetest fadavi: i mean this ppa: https://launchpad.net/~minetestdevs/+archive/ubuntu/daily-builds 16:58 DS-minetest btw what mod is it that makes the player white if he gets damage? 16:59 fadavi DS-minetest: thanks, after installing minetest from this ppa, you install mods in which directory? 16:59 red-001 isn't that a bug? 16:59 Out`Of`Control bug is a great mod 17:00 DS-minetest red-001: yeah, i mean, what mod causes that bug 17:00 PureTryOut[m] red-001: `~/.minetest/mods` 17:00 PureTryOut[m] eeuh wrong nick 17:00 PureTryOut[m] fadavi: ^ 17:00 DS-minetest fadavi: put in your home folder/.minetest/mods 17:00 red-001 my money is on armor 17:00 IhrFussel fadavi, I recommend you to put mods in .minetest/worlds/[worldname]/worldmods so you can have mods-per-world 17:00 fadavi DS-minetest: thanks again. 17:01 DS-minetest IhrFussel: that is possible? 17:01 red-001 yes 17:01 IhrFussel Also: If you put your mods in worldmods they are enabled automatically 17:01 DS-minetest but it's not very often needed 17:01 red-001 you can even have per-world games 17:01 DS-minetest good to know 17:01 fadavi IhrFussel: i think, thats a good idea :D 17:02 red-001 not sure why you would want to use that through 17:02 DS-minetest fadavi: worlds have to be configured to enable mods 17:02 DS-minetest the only use case i see is if you have to different mods / mod versions with the same name 17:02 fadavi last question! please tell me a list of mods, to make minetest like Minecraft PE, as many as possible. 17:03 ThomasMonroe_ MCLN2 17:03 ThomasMonroe_ or MineClone2 17:03 DS-minetest fadavi: there's a subgame called mineclone2 17:03 ThomasMonroe_ its pretty good 17:03 ThomasMonroe_ textures are awesome 17:03 DS-minetest but i wouldn't use it... 17:03 ThomasMonroe_ why not DS? 17:04 DS-minetest it's very unfinished, laggy and co. 17:04 DS-minetest and minetest has more and better stuff 17:04 ThomasMonroe_ well yeah, true there is that 17:04 fadavi DS-minetest: subgames are different to mods?! 17:04 ThomasMonroe_ subgames are a set of mods 17:04 red-001 subgames are whole mod packages 17:04 ThomasMonroe_ that override all other mods 17:04 ThomasMonroe_ sort of 17:04 fadavi aha 17:04 ThomasMonroe_ all default mods anyway 17:05 red-001 they don't depend on anything other then the engine 17:05 red-001 modpacks are collections of mods that need a subgame to be used 17:05 DS-minetest fadavi: u already have 2 subgames together with the mt core: minimal and minetest_game 17:05 ThomasMonroe_ im gong to start making one :) 17:05 red-001 don't use minimal 17:06 DS-minetest place subgames in ~/.minetset/games 17:06 ThomasMonroe_ what is minetset DS? 17:06 ThomasMonroe_ ;) 17:06 fadavi DS-minetest: where can i find MineClone2? 17:06 DS-minetest ahh, that always happens 17:07 DS-minetest fadavi: go to forum 17:07 Krock !mod mineclone2 17:07 DS-minetest fadavi: i suggest playing the tutorial subgame and worlds 17:07 MinetestBot Krock: Could not find anything. 17:07 DS-minetest -s 17:07 DS-minetest * 17:07 DS-minetest !game MineClone2 17:08 DS-minetest !subgame MineClone2 17:08 DS-minetest hm 17:08 Krock the title is most likely not formatted correctly 17:08 DS-minetest !mod mesecons 17:08 MinetestBot DS-minetest: Mesecons (= redstone) [mesecons] by Jeija - https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=628 17:08 red-001 !mod chatlog 17:08 MinetestBot red-001: Chat log [chatlog] by JBR - https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=6220 17:08 Krock !mod mineclone 2 17:08 MinetestBot Krock: MineClone 2 by Wuzzy - https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=16407 17:09 fadavi DS-minetest: im installing minetest from daily ppa... 17:10 DS-minetest fadavi: ok, but don't forget updating then 17:11 fadavi DS-minetest: ok. installed minetest. now, whats your suggestion to have a good experience in minetest? MineClone2? or what?! 17:12 DS-minetest !mod tutorial 17:12 MinetestBot DS-minetest: / Tutorial / by Wuzzy - https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=10192 17:12 DS-minetest that 17:12 fadavi DS-minetest: thanks. im going to read that link. 17:12 DS-minetest : ) 17:15 Krock fadavi, also collect some nice mods. Refresh this page if you can't find anything nice: http://krock-works.16mb.com/MTstuff/modSearch.php?st=2 17:15 fadavi Krock: thank you so much. :) 17:16 Krock !next 17:16 MinetestBot Another satisfied customer. Next! 17:27 cx384 !mod node_texture_modifier 17:27 MinetestBot cx384: Node Texture Modifier [node_texture_modifier] by cx384 - https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=15528 17:27 DS-minetest btw why doesn't tell minetest the missing depencies in chat anymore on first time, you join a singleplayer world since you started minetest? 17:27 IhrFussel Is there a root check in Minetest Android? 17:28 IhrFussel I'm pretty sure rooted devices aren't blocked so the player who assumes this is incorrect 17:30 DS-minetest oops, todo in mesecons_luacontroller: move the execute button to right 17:30 fadavi is there any Level in minetest, like minecraft? the character gets hungry?! 17:31 ThomasMonroe there are mods that add that 17:32 fadavi ThomasMonroe: whats the best mods to do such? and whats the best mods for adding monsters, zombies, spiders, etc.? 17:32 ThomasMonroe hmm 17:33 ThomasMonroe look up on Krock's website for mod searching 17:33 ThomasMonroe i cant remember what it was 17:34 fadavi ThomasMonroe: ok, thanks 17:35 ThomasMonroe yw 17:35 DS-minetest heh, the mesecons luacontroller error messages can be a bit strange 17:35 DS-minetest (load):3: Code timed out! 17:36 DS-minetest /usr/share/minetest/builtin/common/misc_helpers.lua:123: Code timed out! 17:36 DS-minetest and /usr/share/minetest/builtin/init.lua:16: Code timed out! 17:36 ThomasMonroe like that helps any 17:37 DS-minetest i wonder why this happens just because of another amount of code 17:37 Krock too many loops? ^ 17:38 DS-minetest yes 17:38 DS-minetest but i mean why there are different error messages 17:38 DS-minetest now one from init.lua of mesecons_luacontroller 17:39 fadavi Krock: tell me some awesome mods! i wanna have Level bar, monsters, zombies, spiders, etc. also i wanna character to be hungry! 17:39 DS-minetest looks like you aren't interested in technical mods, fadavi 17:40 Krock fadavi, if so: hunger, stamina, moon realm, nether 17:40 Krock asteroids, mt meru 17:40 fadavi DS-minetest: in past, i was minecraft player and i like survival mode. :D 17:41 fadavi Krock: thanks again & again & ...! 17:41 DS-minetest nyancat heaven 17:41 Krock plantlife + moretrees + moreblocks if you want to wait longer for joining a fancy game 17:41 Krock DS-minetest, I wonder if that one still looks good now that NC's are aliased away 17:41 Krock o/ rubenwardy 17:42 DS-minetest Krock: it depends on nyancat mod and ncs aren't aliased 17:43 Krock lol, they're just going to be marked as unknown nodes? how horrible 17:43 Krock nyancat wasn't a seperate mod for a long time, thus I'm not sure if it actually depends on nyan cats 17:44 DS-minetest Krock: it does, at least hybriddog's version 17:45 Krock ah, good. 17:46 fadavi Krock, DS-minetest: what about enemies? like zombies, ghosts, spiders, etc.? can i have them? 17:46 Krock just smash the keyword "mob" into that search bar 17:46 Krock nssm will look promising to you 17:46 DS-minetest eh 17:47 DS-minetest nssm lags extremely, but Krock is right 17:47 DS-minetest you could play mc, so… 17:47 Krock mc as in the mineclone subgame 17:47 DS-minetest hmm, i can't reproduce that whitening bug with armor and lava in singleplayer 17:48 Krock but I must say that I'm only using MTG, minimal and my own minimalist subgame :3 17:48 Krock with basic mods, usually playing on servers 17:48 * DS-minetest mostly plays minetest_game 17:51 DS-minetest realtest is a nice subgame imo 17:51 fadavi it seems VanessaE is one of pro mod devs. 17:51 * rubenwardy plays mtg+mobs_redo+mesecons+skybox+ts_furniture+awards 17:52 VanessaE I was. 17:52 VanessaE I don't do much modding anymore though 17:53 fadavi VanessaE: thanks for developing such good mods :) 17:53 VanessaE you're quite welcome 17:57 Krock VanessaE, but I do some modding ;) https://github.com/minetest-technic/unified_inventory/pull/99 18:10 DS-minetest ops 18:17 ThomasMonroe hi octacian__ 18:17 ThomasMonroe nvmd 18:36 DS-minetest yey, i managed to make the maidroid place 18:44 MinetestBot 02[git] 04nerzhul -> 03minetest/minetest: read_schematic_replacements: ensure fields are strings (#5726) 13c07c642 https://git.io/v9KLv (152017-05-08T18:43:03Z) 18:58 Zeitkind Q: can I create a new server on Linux within a terminal session or x2go-remote? The game itself won't start on x2go/xfce4 19:00 Zeitkind nevermind.. found Debian server in Wiki.. 19:00 rubenwardy minetest --server or minetestserver creates a server without a GUI 19:00 Zeitkind yeah, just read it ^^ 19:00 rubenwardy http://wiki.minetest.net/Help:Setting_up_a_server 19:03 Zeitkind my son asked me for a virtual server and I have absolutely no idea about minetest whatsoever.. ^^ 19:06 Zeitkind are 4gb RAM and 2 virtual cores OK for a normal public server? 19:13 rubenwardy yeah 19:32 fadavi which mapgen is the best? whats seed? 19:34 calculon seed is for the random number generator 19:34 calculon give the same seed twice and you'll get the same map 19:35 fadavi calculon: what about mapgen? 19:36 calculon i don't know, i only tried v7 which is pretty good 19:36 fadavi calculon: thanks 19:40 rubenwardy v7 or valleys 19:41 fadavi rubenwardy: thanks. im new to minetest. suggest me some mods, i like survival game. 19:44 calculon i like mobs_redo with mobs_animal/more_animals and monster 19:44 calculon but i find it a bit too easy 19:45 calculon mobs_water will add sharks and crocodiles too :) 19:46 calculon you can also try esmobs 19:51 fadavi calculon: thanks