Time Nick Message 01:32 ThomasMonroe are you on OldCoder? 02:17 OldCoder ThomasMonroe, I was asleep 06:25 koz_ How do I start a server and tell it to make a world using a particular mod? 06:25 koz_ (I don't have a graphical client for this one) 06:27 VanessaE I put mods in the worldmods/ dir for that world. 06:27 koz_ VanessaE: Thanks! 06:28 koz_ (I assume I need to create it if it's not already there?) 06:28 VanessaE yes,. 06:28 koz_ OK, thank you! 06:28 koz_ VanessaE: Also, is the correct way to password-protect connections to the server to set 'server_password = foobarbaz' in the conf file? 06:28 VanessaE no 06:29 koz_ I thought not. 06:29 koz_ So what *should* I do? 06:29 VanessaE rather, set the flag that requires passwords, disallow_empty_password = true 06:29 VanessaE then maybe add a mod if you want to whitelist connections 06:29 koz_ Just password protection should be enough I think. 06:30 VanessaE by "password" do you mean like, a global password that everyone needs? 06:31 VanessaE or more like the "newuser" mod that requires the user to look for and give a keyword embedded in some "rules" text 06:31 koz_ VanessaE: I mean that, when the user wants to connect, they have to give a password (set by me), or they can't connect. 06:32 VanessaE yeah, you'll need to use a mod for that 06:32 koz_ Oh, OK. 06:32 koz_ So then what's the point of the password field when you connect to a server from the Minetest client? 06:33 VanessaE minetest servers normally require the user to create an account, and supplying a username and password at connect time does that 06:33 VanessaE otherwise they're like any website that needs you to login 06:34 VanessaE a global password is not recommended anyway because then users will just share the password. 06:34 koz_ Oh, I see. 06:34 VanessaE been there, done that. 06:34 koz_ Which mod would you recommend I use for the kind of access control I want? 06:35 VanessaE so now the mod I use reads passwords from a file, selecting at random each time the rules formspec is opened, so that no one can possibly give the keyword to anyone else 06:35 VanessaE https://github.com/cheapie/newplayer this is it 06:35 koz_ VanessaE: Thank you! I guess this needs to be put in the worldmods dir as well? 06:35 VanessaE note that with that mod, users who fail to give the keyword can still wander around, but no interact is given without it 06:35 koz_ VanessaE: OK, thanks. 06:35 VanessaE (assuming your default privs are properly set) 06:37 VanessaE so what you probably want to do is modify that mod to disconnect the user if they can't give the keyword 06:37 VanessaE or perhaps modify it and your default privs so that 'shout' is also only granted after success 06:38 VanessaE you can set your server to allow empty passwords if you want to (I think that's the default), actually, and then just let the newplayer mod manage it from there. 06:39 VanessaE if you want to see it in action, visit one of my servers at daconcepts.com ports 30000, 30001, 30002, 30005, or 30008 06:40 VanessaE to sign in, you must give a username that's not gibberish and hasn't too many numbers, and your desired password, then give the keyword embedded in the rules. if you do not, you are left with no interact and red warning text on your HUD, but you can wanted around, chat, etc. 06:40 VanessaE (I have a mod in place that tries to filter-out garbage usernames, "guestXXXXX", anything with too many numbers, etc) 06:41 VanessaE wander around* 06:42 koz_ VanessaE: Thank you very much for the explanation! 06:42 VanessaE cheers :) 06:43 koz_ Also - thank you for the hi-def textures. 06:43 koz_ I use them all the time, and they look beautiful. 06:44 VanessaE you're quite welcome 06:47 tiwake what language is minetest written in? 06:47 VanessaE C++ for the engine, Lua for the game content and engine helpers 06:48 tiwake multi-threaded at all? 06:48 VanessaE to some degree 06:48 tiwake sounds good enough 06:49 koz_ tiwake: It is - I'm successfully running a Minetest server on a BananaPi. 06:49 tiwake havent tried playing it yet, maybe later today after I go to sleep, wake up sane (lol) and get back from work 06:51 tiwake koz_: well, at one point I had minecraft server running on an intel atom D510 processor... 06:51 tiwake not that it was a sane thing to do either 06:52 VanessaE minetest doesn't need much in the way of resources as long as you stick with lightweight mods of course 06:53 tiwake hopefully I'll be building a server next month 06:53 tiwake ...maybe 06:53 Elench Is anyone using a DS3 with MT and qjoypad? If so care to share your config? <3 06:53 tiwake probably going to go with the ryzen 5 1400 or whatever, because ECC support :3 06:56 Elench And any suggestions of good sociable RP/PvE/PvP/Building servers also appreciated 06:56 * Elench doesn't ask much 06:56 VanessaE mine are good :) 06:57 VanessaE daconcepts.com port 30000 (dreambuilder creative), 30001 (dreambuilder suvival), 30002 ("Nostalgia" game), 30005 (Basic-plus) or 30008 (Creative building) 06:57 tiwake VanessaE: is there a comprehensive public or simi-public server list somewhere? 06:57 VanessaE http://servers.minetest.net/ 06:57 VanessaE your client will also present you with a list with the same content as that page 06:58 Elench Thanks VanessaE 06:58 VanessaE yw 06:58 Elench I find the in-client server page painful and difficult to look through 06:58 Elench Love this game though 06:58 VanessaE can you suggest some improvements to it? 06:58 Elench Mostly I'd like filtering, both my mod names and tags set by the owner 06:59 VanessaE that exists now, sorta 06:59 Elench So I could, for instance, display servers with Mesecons that are aimed at roleplaying 06:59 VanessaE there's a search feature in the current minetest client 06:59 VanessaE but I see what you mean 06:59 Elench Hmm, maybe my client is antedeluvian... 07:00 VanessaE with the webpage I linked, if you mouse over the "version, subgame" field of any server entry, you see the mod list 07:03 tiwake oh hey, a PPA 07:03 Elench Oh, I didn't realise, silly me but in my defence I avoid mouses :þ 07:03 VanessaE tiwake: beware, the dailies PPA might not be working right 07:04 VanessaE if you find it's outdated, build MT from github sources. 07:04 tiwake VanessaE: what is the release goal for version 1? 07:04 VanessaE there isn't 07:04 tiwake gotcha 07:04 VanessaE we aren't using that numbering system, as such 07:04 Elench Yeah, I really need to build a bunch of software, I feel I should do my WM before addictive games though 07:04 VanessaE think of 0.4.x equivalent to 4.x 07:04 tiwake (it varies from project to project, thought I'd ask) 07:04 VanessaE (but never call it that in public :) ) 07:09 Elench Gosh, such a modern city at spawn 07:10 tiwake don't most people spawn in cities these days? :P 07:10 Elench Hehe, true 07:10 Elench A manhole that opens onto machinery! 07:11 VanessaE heh 07:11 Elench Ich bin ein Morlock 07:11 VanessaE oh you went for the dreambuilder Survival server :) 07:11 VanessaE (I see you in the servers' IRC channel) 07:11 Elench Yeah, I much prefer survival to creative 07:12 tiwake oh, I'm curious... does minetest have a lower limit before everything is lava or something? 07:12 VanessaE tiwake: no 07:12 Avix_G Just wondering, on a public server, what is the likelyhood of encountering a griefer? 07:12 VanessaE without mods, the bottom of the world is just a void. 07:12 Elench IIRC it does at about -26km but it's just blank 07:12 VanessaE one of the preferred mods adds bedrock down there. 07:13 VanessaE roughly -32k actually 07:13 Elench Erm, 16 07:13 tiwake thats a long ways down 07:13 VanessaE bedrock in that mod is impenetrable with normal tools 07:13 Elench Ah right, I thought the edges of the world were 32km long 07:14 VanessaE 62x62x62k with the upper half being mostly empty sky 07:24 Elench What network is your IRC channel on? 07:37 VanessaE Inchra.chat 07:40 koz_ How do I grant every player the home priv? Do I need to stick something in the conf file? 07:41 VanessaE default_privs = fast,home,shout,fly,zoom 07:41 VanessaE in your config. 07:41 koz_ VanessaE: Thank you! 07:41 VanessaE yw 07:42 VanessaE you can of course put whatever you want there, as long as it's legit 07:42 kaeza do note that it only works for new players. players registered beforehand won't have those 07:42 VanessaE right 07:43 VanessaE but a little sed(1) magic on the auth.txt will fix that 07:43 koz_ VanessaE and kaeza: Thank you for the note. 07:43 VanessaE yw 08:06 VanessaE Elench: in case you're wondering, they're testing a "summaries" bot over there on my server channel 08:07 MinetestBot 02[git] 04nerzhul -> 03minetest/minetest: Fix various performance issues reported by cppcheck (#5628) 13370354c https://git.io/v9fE4 (152017-04-21T08:06:08Z) 08:24 MinetestBot 02[git] 04nerzhul -> 03minetest/minetest: Gitlab-CI enhancements (#5629) 132ad74a9 https://git.io/v9fzT (152017-04-21T08:22:20Z) 08:29 Elench VanessaE: sooo, are other skins available? 08:29 VanessaE yes 08:30 VanessaE good for any minecraft skin you want, and I'll install it. it'll be activated at the morning reboot/backup cycle (5am EDT). if it's a 1.8 skin, I'll crop it to 1.0 format. 08:30 VanessaE good? 08:30 VanessaE google* 08:31 Elench Ah, OK thanks 08:31 Elench I'll look and choose or make one and get back to you :) 08:31 VanessaE ok 08:55 JamesTait Good morning all! Happy Friday, and happy Tea Day! 😃 🍵 ☕ 08:55 VanessaE you have no tea. 08:55 VanessaE :) 08:56 * VanessaE hands you something not quite entirely unlike tea 08:56 kaeza coffee or gtfo 08:57 kaeza or beer. preferably beer 08:58 Markow Good morning to all from a still very chilly Central Europe! 09:03 MinetestBot nerzhul: Apr-03 23:31 UTC https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/.travis.yml#L16-L18 09:16 Elench VanessaE: could you add https://drive.google.com/open?id=0ByW35gno-gkQanBvSTJaWmZVanc for Elench please? <3 09:18 VanessaE sure but you missed the deadline by about 16 mins 09:18 Elench That's fine, I don't know if I'll have time to play more today anyway :) 09:18 VanessaE ok 09:22 yusf[m] Is it possible to detect if a player has a formspec open and what formspec it is? 09:23 VanessaE I don't think so, but you can always reprogram the mod/node that generates it and make it do your bidding 09:28 rdococ well, I've tried to reprogram the core water physics to do my bidding twice and it hasn't obeyed 09:28 VanessaE heh 09:28 VanessaE yusf[m]: also, matrix is evil. use a real IRC client. :) 09:28 rdococ I wish there was a Lua option to disable the core water physics so you can program your own 09:28 VanessaE there sorta is 09:28 rdococ what is it? 09:29 VanessaE modify the node def for water to make it not flow, then do your own code to simulate the flow. 09:29 rdococ ah, but then does the water still look like a liquid? 09:29 rdococ if not, then that's a problem 09:31 VanessaE nope, it won't. I don't think 09:31 rdococ ah. 09:31 rdococ then I'd still like an option. 09:32 VanessaE maybe if you set the viscosity really high 09:32 VanessaE and then manually set param2 in each node to change its level 09:32 VanessaE then it would look like it's flowing 09:32 rdococ I wonder if setting viscosity to math.huge works 09:32 VanessaE it might, idk 09:32 VanessaE never tried it 09:32 rdococ hm. how would I override one property of a node? I forgot 09:36 rdococ :/ 09:36 rdococ doesn't seem to work 09:36 rdococ odd 09:36 rdococ it just seems to flow normally 09:36 VanessaE minetest.override_item("name", def) 09:37 rdococ ah 09:37 VanessaE where "def" is a table containing just the items you want to change, in the same format as register_node() 09:37 VanessaE so if you wanted to change the texture for cobble, minetest.override_item("default:cobble", { tiles = "weird_cobble_texture.png }) 09:37 rdococ well, I set viscosity to 123 and now water pushes me around a lot 09:38 VanessaE (well, type it properly, e.g. closing quotes :P ) 09:38 rdococ lol 09:38 rdococ heh 09:40 rdococ oddly, changing viscosity hasn't changed the speed the water moves at all. 09:41 rdococ rather, now when I try to enter the water, it throws me all over the place. 09:41 VanessaE huh. 09:42 VanessaE I could have sworn the viscosity setting controlled how fast it spreads 09:42 VanessaE I guess you'll have to do it manually 09:42 VanessaE maybe with "leveled" nodes 09:42 VanessaE but if that's the case, there's already a mod that does that 09:42 rdococ I believe that's how viscosity is defined in real life, though 09:42 rdococ I've already made a manual finite water mod. it's bad, but it kind of works. 09:52 yusf[m] VanessaE: Thanks for replying. I hesitate to delve into subgame creation, which would be the consequence of editing default. And I'll leave the use of prehistoric chat paradigms to the dinosaurs ;) 09:53 VanessaE subgames are.... difficult to maintain 09:53 VanessaE Dreambuilder used to be distributed as such, became too difficult to keep up with mt_game upstream changes, so I just distribute it as a modpack that you use on top of mtg now. 09:56 VanessaE as for matrix... I was kidding, we've been down that road already with a couple others :) 09:57 VanessaE us dinosaurs like our plain-vanilla chat programs ;) 09:57 yusf[m] That's how I do it too. 09:59 yusf[m] Plain-vanilla vs. chat history, multi-device and push notifications (without bouncer) :) 10:00 VanessaE chat history is easy - most iRC clients like hexchat have logs 10:00 VanessaE push-notifications don't mean much on a desktop though 10:12 Calinou if you want 24/7 history on IRC, you need a bouncer, which implies having a computer up 24/7 (it can be a Raspberry Pi, or a VPS) 10:12 Calinou setting it up (especially if you want it to scale) isn't trivial either 10:13 Calinou (like, you should use PostgreSQL with Quassel if you want it to use it on more-than-tiny deployments) 10:15 VanessaE since I already have dac.com, a bouncer was a trivial addition, save for me not being able to remember how I did it :P plus my PC's always on since it also runs my mining rig (and we need the heat anyway) 10:18 sfan5 setting up znc is trivial tho 10:20 Elench VanessaE: how annoying would it be to ask for a second skin change? https://drive.google.com/open?id=0ByW35gno-gkQMDdxcFBhTEJzNVk No worries if it's a pain :) 10:59 yusf[m] This is what's referred to as 64x64 skin. I think there's work being done on it somewhere 11:00 VanessaE cropped and updated. 11:12 Fixer VanessaE: why do you need heat? 11:12 VanessaE mountains of western North Carolina. 11:12 VanessaE even this time of year, it still gets a little cool 11:13 VanessaE the house is all electric heat so the computers contribute to that. 11:13 VanessaE of course, they sit in front of an open window, with a fan I can turn on/off easily, when it gets too warm 11:42 ThomasMonroe OldCoder are you on? 11:48 red-000 is OldCoder also banned here? 11:48 ThomasMonroe no 11:49 ThomasMonroe why would he be banned? 11:49 red-000 see -dev logs 11:49 ThomasMonroe how do i do that? 11:49 red-000 irc.minetest.net 11:52 ThomasMonroe wich day should i look at? 11:53 ThomasMonroe red-000 ^ 11:53 red-000 today 12:08 ThomasMonroe red-000, while i do like staying on topic, from the looks of it sofar wasnt even trying to understand, and he mades this comment: 04:41 sofar your presence in this channel is disrupting the very goals of which it was created for 12:08 ThomasMonroe the goal for that channel is for the developement of minetest, is it not? 12:10 ThomasMonroe I understand the OC was asked to leave many times, however his presence in the channel was to fix a problem,one with the core developement team, would that not be considered on-topic? 12:11 ThomasMonroe for the record i am not taking any sides in this, i am saying that both parties were incorect in the way they handled themselves 12:11 ThomasMonroe OC should have left and sofar should have been more sympathetic to his arguments 12:12 ThomasMonroe i mean comeon guys really -.- you were fighting over whether it was on-topic or off-topic 12:13 VanessaE ThomasMonroe: the problem is that 90% of what OC was saying in -dev was entirely offtopic for -dev and no one who was online at the time had the necessary priv to force him to stop. 12:13 ThomasMonroe i understand that Vanessa. 12:14 VanessaE there really was only one correct action: he should have taken his rant to a more appropriate venue. 12:14 ThomasMonroe from what i can see there is no place where he could have done that and still talked to the same ppl, maybe there should be a channel for such things? 12:15 ThomasMonroe unless #minetest-hub is acceptable 12:15 VanessaE it would barely have been on-topic for here, and not at all for -hub 12:15 ThomasMonroe then where would he have gone? 12:15 VanessaE and even then, he was making wild accusations that have no basis in fact anyway 12:16 rubenwardy ThomasMonroe: there's context as well 12:16 VanessaE I don't know. it comes down to "you don't have to go home, but you can't stay here." 12:16 ThomasMonroe rubenwardy, i just read the entire conversation twice 12:17 ThomasMonroe once to listen to OC, and the other to listen to the other ppl 12:18 ThomasMonroe the ppl who got on while it was going on were correct i.e. VanessaE, rdococ, and others 12:18 VanessaE ThomasMonroe: to get the full context, you would need to back about a month or so, to when the mishegas over the sneak changes started. 12:18 ThomasMonroe oh..ok 12:19 ThomasMonroe im just trying to figure out why everyone didnt at least try to help OC sort things out 12:20 ThomasMonroe instead sofar told him to leave bcs he was making false accusations, which idk how sofar could have known them to be false 12:21 rubenwardy OC has been trying to claim the trademark 'Minetest', and take over the project 12:21 VanessaE ThomasMonroe: I can't speak for why no one wanted to help OC, but I can say that he made it damn near impossible, and what started all this mess has since been fully resolved, that ^^ trademark thing aside. 12:21 rubenwardy and says that anyone that disagrees with him is childish and disappoints him 12:21 red-000 ^ 12:21 ThomasMonroe does anyone know why he wants it trademarked? 12:21 rubenwardy https://minetest.org/ 12:22 VanessaE because he feels he's put more time into the project than anyone else. 12:22 red-000 ThomasMonroe, good luck getting an answer to that 12:23 ThomasMonroe just how much has he put into the project? 12:23 VanessaE he's been present for about 5 years. 12:23 red-000 He's worth a dozen of you. Hush and let him finish. 12:23 ThomasMonroe where was that from? 12:23 VanessaE but I can't say how much actual, tangible work that entailed. 12:24 red-000 http://irc.minetest.net/minetest-project/2017-04-08#i_4864532 12:24 red-000 I think all he does it host a bunch of servers 12:24 red-000 I could be wrong 12:24 ThomasMonroe with a mind like his one would expect him to realise his mistake, but hes so "smart" he cant see the trees through the forest 12:27 ThomasMonroe guys is it possible for OC to ddos himself? 12:27 red-000 I suppose so 12:28 red-000 he does seem to have a lot of ip's 12:28 VanessaE sure it's possible 12:28 ThomasMonroe if he wants the trademark, that would mean he owns the project right? 12:28 VanessaE it's also possible there's no DDoS at all... 12:28 red-000 VanessaE, I think there was 12:28 VanessaE ThomasMonroe: he would have to, yes, but I think there are enough of us here that such an attempt would be stopped 12:29 red-000 I was trying to set up an archive.is archiving script and I noticed that the website seemed to be offline 12:29 VanessaE red-000: oh I'm sure there was, I was just speaking from the "there are a thousand choices" standpoint 12:30 red-000 when I tried to ping the server I got a few pings back even but the packet lose was at about 80% 12:30 ThomasMonroe six one way half a dozen the other, VE? 12:30 red-000 so I don't think the server was simiply offline 12:30 red-000 he could have been faking the packet lose through 12:31 VanessaE ThomasMonroe: nono, 6 of one, half a dozen of the another, and three pairs of the remainder :) 12:31 VanessaE -the 12:31 ThomasMonroe heh :) 12:32 red-000 I does seem unlikly someone would DDoS OC 12:33 ThomasMonroe unless they did not like him at all. 12:34 ThomasMonroe it looked like sofar didn't even care that a DDoS was going on, from what i saw, but that could have a reason 12:34 ThomasMonroe btw im not blaming sofar, im just stating what im seeing 12:34 red-000 it's his site 12:34 VanessaE I think the point, ThomasMonroe, was that whether or not he cared, -dev was not the place to talk about it 12:34 red-000 I don't really care if someone wants to do that 12:35 VanessaE I don't care if he gets DDoS'ed if he won't use an ISP that mitigates such things. 12:35 VanessaE protecting your site from DDoS is internet-101 for G*d sakes. 12:36 ThomasMonroe ik the reason OC was kicked and banned, but im trying to figure out the root of the problem 12:36 red-000 I do want to make it very clear I do not commend DDoSing 12:36 ThomasMonroe nor i 12:37 VanessaE me neither, and not because I've been on the receiving end of a couple of them 12:37 red-000 but neither do I approve of ban evading 12:37 ThomasMonroe its not the right thing to do, even if one doesnt like the person getting the DDoS 12:37 ThomasMonroe it seems that OC is back on -dev btw 12:38 red-000 whats his new ban evading nick? 12:38 ThomasMonroe same, OldCoder 12:38 VanessaE he's not there. 12:38 ThomasMonroe i see him on my side 12:38 red-000 ?? 12:38 red-000 maybe you are in his channel? 12:38 ThomasMonroe minebest? 12:38 red-000 yes 12:38 VanessaE oh that's his channel 12:39 ThomasMonroe ok, nvmd then 12:39 VanessaE only tangentially related to here. 12:40 red-000 Honestly I'm not really sure what is end goal is 12:40 ThomasMonroe ownership of an opensource project, a money making one at that 12:40 red-000 right now he is acting like an internet troll 12:40 VanessaE what's got him so butthurt right now is the existence of #minetest-hub as a means to replace #-project 12:41 ThomasMonroe why was -hub created then if -project already was there? 12:42 red-000 ThomasMonroe, the growing banlist of -project? 12:42 ThomasMonroe ah 12:43 red-000 I think sneak spam might have been another factor 12:43 ThomasMonroe probly 12:44 ThomasMonroe i think he has been holding most of his anger back and just let loose on -dev 12:44 ThomasMonroe thats what it looks like anyways 12:44 red-000 I did try to see his point of view at one point but he lost any good will by insulting people and being unreasonable 12:44 Out`Of`Control hi 12:45 ThomasMonroe ik thats why i say he as in the wrong, but to his own point he thought that one of the devs was doing it 12:45 Out`Of`Control could someone update wiki compile guide 12:47 sfan5 whats outdated about the compile guide? 12:49 Out`Of`Control sfan5: wrong libs, are not same as listed on readme file 12:49 sfan5 oh 12:52 ThomasMonroe VanessaE this is where i got that it was sort of a topic suitable for -dev 12:52 ThomasMonroe sofar this is largely offtopic for this channel 12:52 ThomasMonroe 03:50 OldCoder ... 12:52 ThomasMonroe 03:50 It is not unless you contend 12:52 ThomasMonroe 03:50 this did not originate right here 12:52 ThomasMonroe sory idk how to pastebin 12:52 red-000 ??? 12:53 VanessaE ThomasMonroe: go to pastebin.ubuntu.com, paste your paste there, enter your name, then "submit" and give us the URL 12:53 VanessaE or any other similar site. 12:53 red-000 there are a lot pastebin sites 12:53 ThomasMonroe ok thanks VE i'll try it 12:53 red-000 lot of* 12:54 ThomasMonroe http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/24426598/ 12:54 ThomasMonroe does that work? 12:55 VanessaE ye 12:55 VanessaE s 12:55 ThomasMonroe thx, yaay it worked :) 12:55 ThomasMonroe hm i keep timeing out on minetest.org:30006 12:56 VanessaE probably because minetest.org, which is OC's site, is under a DDoS attack. 12:57 ThomasMonroe ok 12:57 Out`Of`Control i guess Cloudflare ddos them 12:57 Out`Of`Control :D 13:00 red-000 the attack seems to be over 13:17 DS-minetest hey MinetestBot 13:17 MinetestBot sup DS-minetest. 13:25 ThomasMonroe hi OldCoder! 13:28 Calinou ShadowNinja: looks like mobile clients now name themselves randomly "(something)XXX" where XXX are 3 random numbers 13:28 Calinou time to ban them in name_restrictions? 13:29 Calinou Amhi has 71 clients right now, ~60 of them being such names: http://servers.minetest.net/ 13:29 Calinou (it's at the bottom of the list) 13:29 Calinou although there can only be 2 numbers at times (since there are no leading zeroes), but banning them would lead to too many false positives 13:29 Calinou alternatively, we should try to get all the possible random names and ban them if they're followed by at least one number 13:37 MinetestBot 02[git] 04juhdanad -> 03minetest/minetest: Soft node overlay (#5186) 131ffb180 https://git.io/v9JJg (152017-04-21T13:34:59Z) 14:05 DS-minetest hehe, my cannon works :3 14:06 Fixer Calinou: but who cares? instead I would write a mod that asks such person to pick a proper name and set a password 14:09 Calinou Fixer: disallowing empty passwords would help, I think it should be the default, maybe 14:09 Calinou (with some explanation in the main menu on how passwords work) 14:10 Fixer sometimes i dream about a ransomware 14:10 Fixer of this kind 14:10 Fixer you install minetest 14:10 Fixer play 14:10 Fixer building a pillar 14:11 Fixer your phone is locked 14:11 agrecascino hello 14:11 Fixer to unlock go to X minetest server and remove all pilars from it and restore griefed buildings 14:11 Fixer at end you will receive the code to unlock your phone 14:12 agrecascino kind like resisenware? 14:12 agrecascino reisenware* 14:12 agrecascino or whatever 14:12 DS-minetest hm, if only an empty password would be allowed at first join, nobody would "burn" his name 14:25 DS-minetest should i set upstream when i push with git? 14:26 * DS-minetest hopes that it isn't that important 14:29 ThomasMonroe hi DS 14:29 DS-minetest hi ThomasMonroe 14:29 DS-minetest wanna test a cannon? 14:30 ThomasMonroe sure 14:30 DS-minetest https://github.com/DS-Minetest/technic_fight 14:30 DS-minetest it uses a particle 14:30 ThomasMonroe hm i have particles turned off would that affect it? 14:30 mitori hello everyone! 14:30 DS-minetest idk 14:31 DS-minetest hellp mitori 14:31 DS-minetest -p+o* 14:31 * DS-minetest tests it now without particles 14:31 mitori could someone help me out with the bug i've started having? 14:31 mitori it's probably somehting obvious 14:32 DS-minetest ThomasMonroe: no differance with particles disabled 14:32 ThomasMonroe KK 14:32 ThomasMonroe im getting ready to test it now 14:34 Keeton Morning all 14:34 mitori so, i can't dig sand but can dig desert_sand 14:34 mitori morning, keeton! 14:34 DS-minetest mitori: are u using minetest_game? 14:34 mitori yes and no 14:35 mitori it's a modified minetest_game 14:35 mitori and apparently i messed something up 14:35 mitori i have no idea how to diagnose it 14:36 mitori weirdly enough it works the oppsite way in creative - whenever i use creative, i can dig sand, but can't dig desert_sand 14:37 mitori groups are identical for both sands 14:39 DS-minetest mitori: what mods do you use that do something with sand 14:39 mitori uuuuuuh 14:39 mitori i don't think i have any 14:39 mitori gimme a sec 14:41 mitori i searched in files for "default:sand" 14:41 mitori but the definition of this node is only once 14:41 mitori all the other times it's mostly crafting recepies and mapgen 14:41 DS-minetest perhaps a mod overrides the wieldhand 14:42 mitori that's a good point, let me check 14:42 mitori that is entirely possible 14:43 mitori aw, man. doesn't seem so 14:44 mitori it's only seen twice, in creative and in default 14:49 DS-minetest mitori: you could make a mod that makes minetest.after(0, function() print(dump(minetest.registered_nodes["default:sand"])) print(dump(minetest.registered_nodes["default:desert_sand"])) end) 14:49 mitori sure! 14:52 ThomasMonroe cool DS, but it doesnt do anything for me 14:52 DS-minetest ThomasMonroe: have you loaded it with technic power? 14:52 mitori okay, i did it, now what? 14:53 mitori i mean i went into the game 14:53 DS-minetest mitori: did you start minetest in terminal? 14:53 mitori i'm on windows :D 14:53 mitori but yeah, i do see what minetest outputs 14:53 DS-minetest what did it say? 14:54 DS-minetest did you see the dumped stuff? 14:54 mitori n-no 14:56 mitori 2017-04-21 16:50:35: ACTION[Server]: singleplayer [127.0.0.1] joins game. 2017-04-21 16:50:35: ACTION[Server]: singleplayer joins game. List of players: singleplayer 2017-04-21 16:50:35: WARNING[Server]: Assignment to undeclared global "n_head" inside a function at ...5-win64\bin\..\games\dwarves_game\mods\drowning\init.lua:65. 2017-04-21 16:50:35: WARNING[Server]: Assignment to undeclared global "hp" inside a function at ....15-wi 14:57 ThomasMonroe how do i load it with power? 14:57 mitori oops, sorry, DS 14:57 mitori i just noticed i messed up loading this fuinction i 14:57 DS-minetest ThomasMonroe: use a battery box 14:57 mitori in* 14:57 ThomasMonroe K 14:57 mitori i'll sort it out in a second a tell you 14:57 DS-minetest configure the world, mitori 14:58 mitori ? 14:58 Nyarg hi folks ) I want forum show me for example all topics in WIP mod subforum. How so I do it ? 14:59 DS-minetest mitori: don't forget to activate the mod 14:59 mitori i placed it in init.lua of default 15:00 DS-minetest uuh 15:00 DS-minetest ok 15:00 mitori nyarg, i have no idea what you said 15:02 Nyarg when I open subforum WIP (for example) I have 83 page by ~20 result on each 15:02 Nyarg I want one page with all topics 15:02 mitori ah 15:03 DS-minetest that won't be possible what easy and also it would cause massive lag i think 15:03 mitori i don't think it's possible, nyarg 15:03 DS-minetest t* 15:03 DS-minetest Nyarg: why do you need it? 15:03 Nyarg *sad 15:04 mitori it's just more convenient, DS 15:04 benrob0329 Because mt forum search is crap, you have to sub search it half the time 15:04 DS-minetest ThomasMonroe: did you manage to shoot? 15:04 mitori i understand his desire :) 15:04 Nyarg I want quickly make full mod list for something 15:05 ThomasMonroe i still am trying to get power to the batteryboxe 15:05 DS-minetest ThomasMonroe: just add a switching station and some solar arrays 15:05 ThomasMonroe K 15:06 mitori there's nothing about sand even with the function you told me to add 15:06 ThomasMonroe keeps saying everything "hsa no network" 15:06 mitori how do i ping people in here lol 15:07 mitori DS-minetest you sure your function is good? what do i need to "activate" it? 15:07 DS-minetest mitori: idk 15:07 DS-minetest it should work on load time 15:08 mitori yeah, i see that by the code 15:08 mitori huh 15:08 ThomasMonroe keeps saying everything "has no network" 15:10 DS-minetest ThomasMonroe: try to place the switching station somewhere else. and connect everything with cables 15:11 DS-minetest the cables should be connected beyond the sw and bat 15:11 ThomasMonroe K which cables? 15:12 DS-minetest ThomasMonroe: depends what machines you use 15:12 DS-minetest and bat 15:13 ThomasMonroe im using just a switching station a batterybox and HV solar arrays 15:13 DS-minetest ThomasMonroe: what battery box? 15:14 ThomasMonroe HV 15:14 DS-minetest ThomasMonroe: then use hv cables 15:14 DS-minetest the yellow ones 15:15 ThomasMonroe how do i connect them? 15:16 DS-minetest ThomasMonroe: just place them 15:16 DS-minetest for god's sake, ThomasMonroe have you never played with technic yet? 15:17 Fixer DS-minetest: playing since 2011, never used technic nor mesecons 15:17 ThomasMonroe nope, my machine isnt very good, :/ im having alot of lag on singleplayer 15:17 Fixer ._. 15:17 ThomasMonroe no mesecons!?!?!??!?!?! 15:17 ThomasMonroe how do you survive Fixer? 15:18 Fixer i'm more vanilla guy 15:18 Fixer moreblocks sometimes 15:20 benrob0329 I would lose it with mtg's current state 15:22 ThomasMonroe DS it keeps saying that they "have no network" 15:23 DS-minetest ThomasMonroe: idk what you are doing wrong 15:23 ThomasMonroe im starting to figure it out :) 15:23 DS-minetest soehow the sw is not connected 15:24 DS-minetest ThomasMonroe: is a cable under the sw? 15:24 ThomasMonroe yes 15:24 DS-minetest hm 15:25 calculon i had the same problem on some server, and strangely it was fixed when tried again the next day 15:25 calculon maybe just restart the game ? 15:25 ThomasMonroe K 15:25 ThomasMonroe hi calculon, still playing on MMS? 15:25 calculon not much actually 15:25 calculon and hi :) 15:26 ThomasMonroe what have you been doing then? 15:26 calculon playing with technic and mesecons 15:27 calculon but i'm alone on the server where i play, it's a bit boring :) 15:27 ThomasMonroe which server? 15:27 calculon survival on minetest.tv 15:28 ThomasMonroe ok 15:28 ThomasMonroe ive got my own server 15:29 calculon ho, cool 15:29 calculon where is it ? 15:30 ThomasMonroe xerox.us.to:30002 but its down right now bcs xerox is moving house 15:30 ThomasMonroe he should be coming back online any day now 15:30 calculon ok, i'll have a look then 15:32 ThomasMonroe ummm DS i got an error about indexing a nil value and something abut tnt when i shot it 15:32 ThomasMonroe it was an attempt to index global tnt value 15:32 ThomasMonroe line #50 15:32 ThomasMonroe of cannon.lua 15:33 DS-minetest ThomasMonroe: don't you have tnt mod? 15:33 DS-minetest ahhhh 15:33 * DS-minetest forgot to add tnt to depends 15:34 ThomasMonroe i'll add that and see if it works 15:35 * DS-minetest pushed 15:35 ThomasMonroe what did you do? add tnt to depends.txt? 15:36 DS-minetest yes 15:38 ThomasMonroe got the same error DS 15:39 DS-minetest hm 15:40 DS-minetest ThomasMonroe: try to enable tnt 15:40 ThomasMonroe i did 15:41 DS-minetest ThomasMonroe: idk what's wrong 15:42 ThomasMonroe i dont see where tnt is used except the tnt.boom part 15:42 DS-minetest and it is the only part 15:47 ThomasMonroe DS what if i replace it with a number 15:47 DS-minetest replace what with a number? 15:48 ThomasMonroe the tnt.boom 15:48 ThomasMonroe unless i cant 15:48 DS-minetest ehm, there has to be a function 15:48 DS-minetest ThomasMonroe: are you sure, you have added tnt to depends and saved it? 15:49 ThomasMonroe yeah and the tnt.boom takes a position as an argument 15:49 ThomasMonroe i just looked at it 15:50 ThomasMonroe im trying something 16:01 ThomasMonroe nvmd didnt work 16:17 Keeton NO 16:17 Keeton I LOST IT 16:23 DS-minetest ? 16:23 ThomasMonroe hi Krock 16:24 Krock hi ThomasMonroe 16:54 benrob0329 !ping 16:54 sfan5 !pong 16:55 ThomasMonroe sfan5: 1 point, benrob0329: 0 points 16:55 benrob0329 !ping 16:57 VanessaE !poing 16:57 benrob0329 !ping 16:58 DS-minetest sfan5: 1 point, benrob0329: 0 points VanessaE: 0.5 points 16:58 ThomasMonroe !ping 16:59 benrob0329 !pong 16:59 ThomasMonroe !ping 16:59 benrob0329 !pong 16:59 ThomasMonroe !ping 16:59 benrob0329 !ponh 16:59 ThomasMonroe !ping 16:59 benrob0329 Pong 16:59 ThomasMonroe !ping 16:59 benrob0329 Pong 16:59 ThomasMonroe !ping 16:59 benrob0329 Pong 16:59 ThomasMonroe !ping 16:59 benrob0329 Pong ping 16:59 ThomasMonroe !ping 16:59 ThomasMonroe !ping 16:59 benrob0329 Pong pong 16:59 ThomasMonroe !ping 16:59 ThomasMonroe !ping 16:59 benrob0329 Pong ping pong 16:59 ThomasMonroe !ping 16:59 ThomasMonroe !ping 16:59 ThomasMonroe !ping 16:59 benrob0329 Pong 16:59 ThomasMonroe !ping 17:00 benrob0329 Pong 17:00 ThomasMonroe !ping 17:00 benrob0329 Pong 17:00 ThomasMonroe !ping 17:00 benrob0329 Pong 17:00 ThomasMonroe !ping 17:00 benrob0329 Pong 17:00 ThomasMonroe !ping 17:00 benrob0329 Pong 17:00 benrob0329 Pong 17:00 Krock Are you serious? 17:00 benrob0329 Pong 17:00 benrob0329 Pong 17:00 ThomasMonroe ummm i think we are flodding chat we should stop 17:00 Krock exactly 17:00 benrob0329 Probably 17:00 ThomasMonroe it was funny though 17:00 benrob0329 Yes 17:01 OldCoder Hi 17:01 Krock hey OldCoder 17:02 OldCoder No, it's euphonious 17:02 OldCoder Krock 17:02 OldCoder Add more rhythm 17:02 Krock sorry, I'm not a native english speaker :< 17:02 OldCoder Hm? I was talking to benrob0329 17:03 Krock oh 17:19 MinetestBot 02[git] 04juhdanad -> 03minetest/minetest: Fix after soft node overlays 13900b816 https://git.io/v9JiH (152017-04-21T17:18:09Z) 17:32 MinetestBot 02[git] 04orwell96 -> 03minetest/minetest: Fix #5617 - respect message and reconnect parameters when shutting do… 13f151b23 https://git.io/v9JXw (152017-04-21T17:31:59Z) 17:58 benrob0329 I can't wait until we have replicators 17:59 benrob0329 What? You need an exra ethernet cable? 17:59 benrob0329 Boom 17:59 benrob0329 Another rpi? Boom 17:59 benrob0329 New cpu? Capow 18:00 benrob0329 Granted, being able to pull stuff from out behind your back would be more useful.. 18:00 benrob0329 but at that point id start questioning reality 18:01 ThomasMonroe nano-tech hasnt been studied enough yet 18:02 sfan5 just ask elon musk he'll tell you that it will be ready in 10y 18:02 ThomasMonroe heh 18:02 DS-minetest (the unit for years is a) 18:02 benrob0329 that'd be nice, woulsnt it? 18:34 DS-minetest i think, the particles of technic's mining lasers are not working 19:34 MinetestBot 02[git] 04sfan5 -> 03minetest-mods/mesecons: Update github links in the README 134dcc7fb https://git.io/v9UJA (152017-04-21T19:33:21Z) 19:47 DS-minetest why didn't i make yet a cookie-clicker mod?! 19:48 benrob0329 Because coockies are for clickers 19:50 Fixer DS-minetest: so useless 19:51 DS-minetest yes, but players would like it 19:53 Hijiri make a technic cookie engine where you can spend your cookies for electricity 19:53 Hijiri it will force everybody to play cookies to get that post-scarcity level electricity generatino 19:53 DS-minetest yes! 19:53 DS-minetest Hijiri: good idea 19:53 Hijiri make sure to make lots of other overpowered cookie gear 19:53 DS-minetest or they could simply be fuel 19:53 Hijiri or that 19:54 Hijiri could be really short fuel to balance it a bit, though it would still be overpowered if cookie generation speed growth is anything like actual cookie clicker 19:55 DS-minetest !c (2/3)*1278 19:55 MinetestBot 852.0 20:06 ThomasMonroe hi octacian_ 20:08 octacian ThomasMonroe: hello :D 20:09 ThomasMonroe what have you been up to lately? 20:09 octacian Mostly been working on main menu 20:09 ThomasMonroe for? 20:10 octacian For example combining the singleplayer and server tabs into a Play tab 20:12 ThomasMonroe ah ok 20:12 ThomasMonroe your own fork,or for real develpoement? 20:12 octacian Real development 20:12 octacian I don't have time to work on my own fork lol 20:12 octacian Though I will at some time 20:13 Fixer https://www.pcper.com/news/General-Tech/Windows-311-WebVR 20:39 Out`Of`Control hi 20:52 iamafriend200 stormchaser u here? 21:25 luizrpgluiz Hi :) 21:33 OldCoder luizrpgluiz, howdy 21:42 MinetestBot 02[git] 04nerzhul -> 03minetest/minetest: Fix various performance issues reported by cppcheck + code style (CI)… 13dc0e909 https://git.io/v9UlQ (152017-04-21T21:40:48Z) 22:35 MinetestBot 02[git] 04nerzhul -> 03minetest/minetest: lua: remove core.cause_error call (#5637) 13113c85a https://git.io/v9UED (152017-04-21T22:34:00Z) 22:37 MinetestBot 02[git] 04nerzhul -> 03minetest/minetest: Revert a const ref on update texture 134f4e2e3 https://git.io/v9Uue (152017-04-21T22:36:59Z) 22:55 MinetestBot 02[git] 04nerzhul -> 03minetest/minetest: Fixing warning pointed by @sfan5 and clang and cleanup guiFileSelectMenu 133e71c8f https://git.io/v9Ugq (152017-04-21T22:51:56Z) 22:57 MinetestBot 02[git] 04juhdanad -> 03minetest/minetest: Fix a memory leak (#5636) 138464da7 https://git.io/v9Ug8 (152017-04-21T22:55:07Z) 23:26 chatter29 hey guys 23:26 chatter29 allah is doing 23:26 chatter29 sun is not doing allah is doing 23:26 chatter29 to accept Islam say that i bear witness that there is no deity worthy of worship except Allah and Muhammad peace be upon him is his slave and messenger 23:27 red-NaN ty minetestbot 23:33 VanessaE I wondered when he'd show up again. 23:33 Fixer ha 23:33 Fixer hey guys 23:34 Fixer minetest is doing 23:34 Fixer minecraft is not doing minetest is doing 23:34 VanessaE heh 23:34 Fixer to accept minetest type http://minetest.net/ and click download links 23:42 red-NaN I wonder how any minetest.* domains there are 23:42 red-NaN who runs minetest.com? 23:44 Fixer it is fan site 23:50 Out`Of`Control Hi 23:50 Out`Of`Control what is max value i can set? server_unload_unused_data_timeout = 23:50 Out`Of`Control default is 29