Time Nick Message 00:57 Calinou thePalindrome: yay for pony avatar on GitHub :P 00:59 Calinou just as a note, I once heard pitch shifting on compressed sounds (Minetest only supports .ogg sounds, not .wav sounds) can be fairly CPU-intensive 00:59 Calinou although, it probably doesn't matter on desktops 00:59 Calinou (this: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/2727#issuecomment-294319387) 00:59 thePalindrome Aye 01:00 Calinou this is just hearsay though, I know many games which do it successfully 01:00 thePalindrome Even a java based game :P 01:01 Calinou I forgot if Minecraft uses .wav or .ogg sounds for samples, it looks like the latest versions no longer include the files directly, not even in a .jar 01:01 Calinou or they're renamed randomly (I found my player skin that way) 01:01 Calinou seems to be .ogg, yeah 01:02 thePalindrome Just figured it'd be a nice feature to help break up the monotony 01:02 OldCoder Monotony? 01:02 Calinou yes, even classic Doom had random sound pitching, in 1993, but they broke it in later releases 01:03 Calinou (it was on .wav sounds though) 01:03 Calinou (well, .wav-like, uncompressed) 01:03 benrob0329 hello all 01:03 Calinou hi benrob0329 01:03 OldCoder benrob0329 01:03 thePalindrome herro 01:03 benrob0329 hi Calinou, OldCoder, thePalindrome 01:51 waldo99 how do you adjust the distance that nametags are visible? 01:54 waldo99 how do you adjust the distance that nametags are visible? 01:58 waldo99 how do you adjust the distance that nametags are visible for a server? 01:58 VanessaE stop repeating yourself, waldo99 02:09 kaeza waldo99, apparently there's `player_transfer_distance` in `minetest.conf` 02:09 waldo99 ok sorry 02:09 waldo99 ok thanks kaeza 02:10 kaeza grep is your friend 02:20 waldo99 what is grep? 02:25 kaeza baby don't hurt me 02:26 * VanessaE tosses some rolls at kaeza 02:26 Calinou waldo99: grep is a tool (usually found by default on UNIX-like systems, though it is available on Windows in various forms as well) that lets you search for text in files 02:27 waldo99 oh. Sorry I'm not a linux guru yet! 02:29 kaeza VanessaE, which kind of roll? 02:30 VanessaE well they sure as hell ain't egg rolls :) 02:30 kaeza heh 02:35 fireglow troll rolls? 02:54 OldCoder waldo99, type my nick if you return 02:56 ThomasMonroe hi OldCoder, Chem asked me if i knew you 03:00 OldCoder ThomasMonroe, I don't recall; do you? 03:01 ThomasMonroe from here 03:01 ThomasMonroe [18:17:02] 20<Tre>30 i just set it up about an hour ago 03:01 ThomasMonroe [18:17:07] 20<Tre>30 :P 03:01 ThomasMonroe [18:17:15] 20<Tre>30 im using git-cola 03:01 ThomasMonroe [18:18:11] 18<OldCoder18> git-cola ?? 03:01 ThomasMonroe [18:18:14] 18<OldCoder18> Hmm 03:01 ThomasMonroe [18:18:21] 18<OldCoder18> cola git is a hit 03:01 ThomasMonroe [18:18:26] 18<OldCoder18> you'll love it quite a bit 03:01 ThomasMonroe [18:18:31] 18<OldCoder18> fizz here and fizz there 03:01 ThomasMonroe [18:18:47] 18<OldCoder18> git hit is full of... Hm 03:02 ThomasMonroe i gtg to bed 03:02 Mator_ o/ 03:02 OldCoder o/ 03:03 ThomasMonroe do you know CHem? 03:03 ThomasMonroe goodnight 05:24 benrob0329 "You are a danger to society" really sofar, really? 05:25 benrob0329 How do you expect to get anywhere with such words? 05:26 OldCoder benrob0329, ? 05:26 OldCoder benrob0329, I don't know the context, but I assure you most people don't take responsibility for their words 05:26 benrob0329 Oh, there's a Creation vs Evolution argument in offtopic on the forums 05:27 OldCoder The remark should probably be made there, then 05:27 OldCoder Not that it's any skin off of my nose 05:27 * OldCoder suspects the offtopic section will just be shut down 05:27 OldCoder benrob0329, sofar is making Easter Baskets ATM FWIW 05:28 OldCoder For, presumably, children to play with tomorrow 05:28 OldCoder Regardless of their descent from created beings or pre-algae 05:28 sofar easter, you know, religious holiday? 05:28 OldCoder sofar, most people are familiar with it 05:29 OldCoder And didn't you say you were AFK ? 05:29 * sofar done hiding eggs 05:29 OldCoder Constructing aforementioned baskets? 05:29 OldCoder Ah 05:29 OldCoder Then comment on pixel issue you mentioned 05:29 OldCoder Are retro game things bad? 05:34 benrob0329 OldCoder: offtopic gets more and more loaded with crap as time goes on 05:34 benrob0329 Its really unfortunate 05:36 OldCoder benrob0329, people are insane enough about relevant things 05:37 OldCoder They do not understand 05:37 OldCoder the key rules of discussion, the basics 05:37 OldCoder There is therefore little point to an off-topic section 05:37 OldCoder As any entry to a subject involving feelings 05:37 OldCoder Is a black hole that sucks in all logic 05:37 OldCoder 06:07 cx384 Happy Easter 06:11 benrob0329 Happy Unleavened Bread 06:11 benrob0329 /late Passover 07:49 MinetestBot 02[git] 04Ekdohibs -> 03minetest/minetest: Disable android leveldb by default (#5596) 13d176364 https://git.io/vS5zt (152017-04-16T07:48:48Z) 11:22 DS-minetest hi MinetestBot 11:22 MinetestBot Hey DS-minetest 11:26 ^7heo moin 12:44 MinetestBot 02[git] 04nerzhul -> 03minetest/minetest: Android progressbar fix (#5601) 1373de17a https://git.io/vS56O (152017-04-16T12:44:15Z) 13:59 calculon hi there 13:59 calculon stupid question : i see many mods which distribute their code and textures under different licences 14:00 calculon code is generally gpl or wtfpl and textures under cc-by-sa 14:00 calculon is there a good reason to that ? 14:05 asie yes, source licenses don't tend to apply well to textures and vice versa 14:06 asie also CC really is the standard for open creative works 14:06 calculon ok, i see 14:14 Salvakiya I need help 14:14 Salvakiya I am trying to get a mod working and it is not 14:15 Salvakiya specifically this mod 14:15 Salvakiya https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=7427 14:16 asie first, i would very much argue if using Faithful constitutes as "legal distribution" 14:16 asie Faithful is very obviously a derivative of Mojang's own textures even if it has an open license 14:26 Salvakiya I just cant seem to get it to work 14:26 Salvakiya whenever I generate a world... its all stone 14:26 Salvakiya =( 14:28 riff-IRC could you make a texturepack? 14:32 riff-IRC Hey Fixer 14:32 riff-IRC Hey Wuzzy 14:32 Fixer hi 14:32 riff-IRC How are you? 14:34 Fixer as usual 14:34 Wuzzy yes 14:38 Salvakiya sigh 14:38 Salvakiya I am getting OOM errors 14:38 Salvakiya when LUA is only using 97mb 14:38 Salvakiya wtf? 14:40 riff-IRC lolwut? 14:41 Fixer Salvakiya: post exact error on pastebin 14:43 Salvakiya Fixer, is there an easy way to copy paste the error? 14:43 Fixer Salvakiya: debug.txt usually has it, just post it to http://pastebin.com/ 14:45 Salvakiya Fixer, https://pastebin.com/P4reDf3C 14:45 Salvakiya funny thing is... I have minecraft and my wife does too.. but her computer cant run it well so we wanted to play minetest 14:45 Salvakiya but I want more content 14:45 Salvakiya =P 14:45 Fixer OOM error from mod 'mg_villages' in callback environment_OnGenerated() 14:45 Fixer kek 14:46 Salvakiya yea... 14:46 Salvakiya no idea 14:46 Fixer Salvakiya: i had similar problems with lua, only really good method is using simple lua, from here if you are on windows, 0.4.15 stable https://kitsunemimi.pw/tmp/minetest-0.4.15-noluajit-win64.7z 14:47 Fixer luajit has only 1gb mem available iirc 14:47 Salvakiya ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 14:48 Salvakiya how to install? 14:48 Salvakiya Fixer? 14:48 Salvakiya just copy and paste 14:48 Fixer Salvakiya: if on windows, just extract it into some folder, 7z is open source archiver can be found here http://www.7-zip.org/ (that is not my minetest build btw) 14:55 Salvakiya hmm 14:55 Salvakiya well it works now 14:55 Salvakiya I think the other mod is still broken 14:55 Salvakiya will test though 14:56 Salvakiya Fixer yea clonecraft and origins both generate landscapes without anything other than ores water and stone 14:56 Salvakiya =\ 15:11 kaeza saludos 15:16 Salvakiya are there a set of mods to add content simmilar to terraria actually? 15:16 Salvakiya that would be ideal 15:44 FritzPT Hello 15:45 DS-minetest hello FritzPT 15:45 DS-minetest hello MinetestBot 15:45 MinetestBot sup DS-minetest! 15:45 kaeza Salvakiya, what kind of content, exactly? 16:00 Salvakiya kaeza what do you mean? 16:00 Salvakiya I wish minetest had more content 16:00 Salvakiya like mobs... farming and the like 16:01 Salvakiya minecraft has quite a bit of content but terraria has far more despite being 2d 16:01 kaeza Salvakiya, there's an app^Wmod for that 16:01 Salvakiya ? 16:02 kaeza Salvakiya, install some mods. most mechanics from terraria are already available in various forms 16:03 Salvakiya idk what mods are good though? 16:03 kaeza for mobs I suggest NSSM. contains lots of different kinds of monsters including flying and swimming ones 16:04 kaeza even a few "bosses" 16:04 kaeza !mod nssm 16:04 MinetestBot kaeza: Not So Simple Mobs [nssm] by npx - https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=11813 16:05 kaeza the one feature that's probably missing is the evil biome thing 16:14 benrob0329 Gooood mornin all! 16:15 benrob0329 MinetestBot! 16:15 MinetestBot benrob0329! 16:15 benrob0329 hello MinetestBot 16:15 MinetestBot Hey benrob0329! 16:15 benrob0329 Hello 16:33 Salvakiya kaeza ill have a look 16:33 Salvakiya what about sheep and stuff? 17:46 kaeza yey, phone now at least works 17:47 kaeza still no sim card, though 17:48 kaeza I'm now wondering if it's the actual sim card that is fried or something 18:03 kaeza nope, that didn't work :/ 18:19 Out`Of`Control try other sim 18:19 Out`Of`Control hi 18:43 FritzPT hello MinetestBot 18:43 MinetestBot Hello FritzPT. 19:11 FritzPT Hello 19:11 juhdanad Hello. 19:12 FritzPT I've made a small "howto" guide for minetest using a w3.css template. There are any license restrictions? 19:15 juhdanad I'm not good in licenses, but I suppose that it is clearly your intellectual property and you can do anything with it. 19:15 juhdanad You should contact with sofar. 19:16 FritzPT Ok, thanks. 19:18 OldCoder Link to original w3.css ? FritzPT 19:18 FritzPT I'm looking for it 19:19 FritzPT https://www.w3schools.com/w3css/w3css_templates.asp (The "Interior Design Template") 19:32 OldCoder FritzPT, minute 19:32 OldCoder "You are free to modify, save, share, and use them in all your projects." 19:32 OldCoder Reviewing 19:33 FritzPT This means that those templates are public domain, right? 19:33 benrob0329 Why not just say CC0, or CC-BY ? 19:33 OldCoder FritzPT, sample file... wait 19:33 OldCoder FritzPT, sample file includes no license. No, they are not public domain. W3 holds copyright but grants you an implied WTFPL license. 19:34 OldCoder Use them as you wish. They do not even require attribution. 19:34 OldCoder You should probably document, in the code, where they came from. 19:34 OldCoder You might wish to document this part: 19:34 OldCoder "You are free to modify, save, share, and use them in all your projects." 19:34 OldCoder 19:34 FritzPT Alright, thanks. 19:34 OldCoder np 19:35 OldCoder FritzPT, I answer questions, usually in #minetest-project. Join there when you like. 19:35 FritzPT Alright 19:35 OldCoder 19:35 OldCoder benrob0329, yes, it would be better if they stated an explicit license *or* said, public domain. 19:36 OldCoder But in the highly unlikely event of a dispute, Respondent in this case could say, "it's WTFPL". 19:47 Jordach >startup >Stop wasting valuable time with projects that just isn't you. 19:47 Jordach lmao 20:03 juhdanad May I ask how do you celebrate Easter in your country? (I'm just curious of the traditions in other places) 20:03 benrob0329 I dont, I celebrate Passover 20:10 * VanessaE throws some matzah at benrob0329 20:11 * benrob0329 throws some matzah ball soup at VanessaE 20:11 VanessaE not kosher for passover :) 20:11 VanessaE (but we're reform. we'll eat pizza during passover :P ) 20:13 benrob0329 How is matza ball soup not kosher for passover? 20:13 benrob0329 its not leavened 20:17 juhdanad We in Hungary visit our female relatives, tell a poem to them and sprout perfume onto their head (like watering plants) so they won't wither. 20:18 VanessaE benrob0329: oh there's some BS claim about the matzah being in water for too long 20:18 VanessaE keep it wet, it leavens or some such (even though there's no baking soda or yeast) 20:19 juhdanad In the old times boys went from house to house with buckets full of water, and girls prepared a lot of dry clothes for this day. 20:22 VanessaE benrob0329: besides, the way I've always understood it, if you strip away all the rabbinical stuff, not only is it supposed to be *bread* e.g. more like tortillas or pita than a cracker, you were only supposed to add that to your diet for the week and choose it over leavened stuff where practical (and where time wouldn't be a factor - as it is the "bread of haste"), not utterly eliminate the leavened stuff/ 20:23 VanessaE s/wouldn\'t/would/ 20:23 benrob0329 VanessaE: indeed 20:23 juhdanad another sed command... 20:24 OldCoder juhdanad, you are Hungary 20:24 OldCoder ? 20:24 juhdanad Yes, why? 20:24 * OldCoder is half Austria-Hungary 20:25 * OldCoder was supposed to visit Hungary about 25 years ago but did not 20:26 juhdanad Good for you. You don't have to learn German. I'm struggling with it. 20:28 OldCoder juhdanad, I only know a little German. I was referring to ancestry. 20:28 OldCoder Great-grandparents on that side came over circa World War I. 21:17 Markow juhdanad: You in Hungary? I'm in Poland, greetings to you neighbor. ;) 21:17 Markow ...and Happy Easter / Happy Passover to all! 21:18 riff-IRC :) 21:20 benrob0329 Markow: happy week of dry cracker things :-) 21:20 Markow Tomorrow is a funny holiday here in Poland: Dyngus Śmygus, or "Wet Monday". Boys douse girls with water and even throw them in streams, and old tradition. 21:21 Markow Also, many pranks are played. 21:21 benrob0329 Interesting 21:22 juhdanad Markow: hi! We have the same tradition. 21:23 Markow juhdanad: Yes, it's quite common all over Central Europe actually, including Czech and Slovakia 21:23 juhdanad But here we also tell a poem. 21:23 Markow Oh, there are many other things done which I have not mentioned 21:24 Markow It's also a huge day of "courting" a bride, etc, and much more. 21:24 * Markow is a native Manhattan, New York City guy living in Europe since 2002 ;) 21:25 juhdanad Why did you move (if I may ask)? 21:26 Markow juhdanad: Several reasons actually, they vary. I had always dreamed of living in Europe one day, to own property here, typcially American fantasy which became a reality for me. 21:27 juhdanad I didn't know Americans wish to live elsewhere. 21:27 Markow Many Americans also do the same by purchasing farmhouses in rural Italy or France 21:27 Markow Then they renovate the properties 21:27 Markow juhdanad: Lot's of American expats here in Europe, especially near me in Kraków 21:28 Markow I'll tell you one thing I learned from living here: Life is nicer, more pleasant, much less stressful than it was living in New York City 21:28 swift110 hey all 21:28 swift110 Markow: oh goodness I couldnt live somewhere with that many people 21:29 Markow swift110: Manhattan (East Village to be exact) was too hectic, too crowded, etc 21:29 juhdanad Well, most educated Hungarian people want to live in Western Europe or America. 21:30 Markow I think the America people see on television leads to a false impression of prosperity 21:30 juhdanad They believe that they will be better treated and get better payments than there. 21:31 juhdanad But not me. I like my country. 21:31 Markow juhdanad: The higher salary comes at a much higher price in the USA, in the form of high rents, high housing prices, and very high insurance and property taxes. 21:31 Markow In the end, it all evens out 21:31 juhdanad It's good to know. 21:32 Markow juhdanad: In NYC, I rented an expensive flat which was boring. Here in Poland for example, I own over 40 hectares of my own land and pay a fraction of what property owners in the USA would pay 21:33 Markow I really should publish a book on life of an American Expat in Europe ;) 21:34 juhdanad In my country a bread's cost (1 kg) is only about 0.85 USD. I don't know how expensive it is in America. 21:35 Markow Here in Poland, an extremely huge loaf of delicious, fresh bread without any preservatives, chemicals, and w/o bleached flour costs only $ 0.50 USD 21:35 Markow juhdanad: In the USA, too much of the food is processed, including the bread 21:36 Markow juhdanad: I haven't visited Hungary yet, but it's in my plans 21:36 Markow I also would like to see Romania 21:37 * Markow apologizes for being off-topic 21:37 benrob0329 Oh come on, now I want to visit Europe 21:38 Markow benrob0329: If you visit Europe, you may not want to leave after that :) 21:38 Markow But in my view and opinion, Central Europe is so much better as far as quality of life than Western Europe is 21:38 juhdanad Well, this is the off-topic channel, isn't it? And I started the whole thing after all, ant I don't regret doing it. 21:39 Markow juhdanad: It's a topic I enjoy very much actually 21:40 juhdanad And I suppose you learned the Polish language and work there too. 21:41 Markow juhdanad: Yes, I learned it after about 8 years, without any formal schooling, I picked it up, surprisingly 21:42 Markow Now I'm working on learning German, a good language to know 21:42 juhdanad Whoa, I wouldn't dare to live in a country which I don't now the language of. 21:43 juhdanad *know 21:43 Markow juhdanad: That's part of what made my entire experience here in Europe so wonderful, that challenge of learning a language I didn't know 21:44 juhdanad And what brought you to the Minetest communtiy? 21:44 Markow juhdanad: I enjoy the game :) 21:45 Markow The creative part of it: Building, constructing, designing 21:46 Markow It's a great form of innovative release into the virtual world 21:46 juhdanad Well, my hobby is game programming. This is what I like most in Minetest - I can improve it and make other people happy. 21:47 Markow Very nice! 21:47 juhdanad If you're interested, this is my current project: #5186 21:48 Markow Thanks for the info 21:48 Markow Are you in Budapest? 21:48 juhdanad No, near Szeged, in Southern Hungary. 21:48 Markow Ah, ok, I know about the city 21:49 juhdanad I like this place because the sun there shines the most. 21:49 Markow I'm 85 km south-east from Kraków, in a rural area 21:49 Markow In the Carpathian Mountains 21:50 Markow Just to let you know, the nearest large city to me, Tarnów, has very strong connections with Hungary 21:51 Markow There was a General Jozef Bem, from Tarnów, who fought for Hungarian Independence a long time ago 21:52 Markow His mausoleum is in an elegant park in Tarnów, also a statue of him in the Old Town district 21:52 juhdanad I know him! 21:52 juhdanad In Hungarian: Bem József 21:52 Markow On ul. Krakowska, Hungary donated a gorgeous all-wooden gate to one of the parks there 21:53 Markow The carvings on the gate are very intricate 21:57 benrob0329 Hi kaeza 21:57 Markow So much history and culture in Europe, another reason I love it, to be surrounded by so many countries that all have their unique way of doing things. 21:57 kaeza hi benrob0329 21:59 OldCoder Markow, may I purchase a small flat in the country? But Schengen Zone would kick me out 22:00 Markow OldCoder: Yes, you may. Real Estate laws (in Poland) do not forbid non-citizen foreigners from buying flats, which are a bargain here. 22:01 Markow But for a foreignger to purchase land, especially farmland or forest, there are many restrictions. Thankfully, I purchased everything prior to these laws were enacted. 22:01 Markow *foreigner 22:01 OldCoder Markow, but Schengen Zone will not permit me to stay 22:01 OldCoder Regrettably 22:01 Markow OldCoder: There are many ways around it. 22:02 OldCoder Then PM me your email address and in a few years perhaps I will inquire for advice 22:02 Markow For example, if your US passport allows you to stay for only 6 months, you simply cross the border, have it stamped, and re-enter the country 22:02 OldCoder I was supposed to move there in Fall 2012... 22:02 OldCoder Oh, they don't like that :-) 22:02 Markow They don't mind it 22:02 OldCoder Schengen Zone rules no longer allow that 22:02 OldCoder Cross border does not work 22:02 Markow There is an English couple living near me, they don't have citizenship here, and they do that 22:03 Markow They cross into Ukraine, which is very close by 22:03 OldCoder I see 22:03 Markow And they step over (literally) the border 22:03 OldCoder PM me your email address and in a few years perhaps I will inquire for advice. 22:03 OldCoder I must rebuild first 22:03 Markow OldCoder: What city was you supposed to move to? 22:04 OldCoder I don't recall. It was described to me as a nice small town. I have the name somewhere.