Time  Nick              Message
00:12 whitephoenix      Where is the formspec for the default player inventory stored? I'd like to modify it to have a 2x2 grid instead.
00:13 kaeza             whitephoenix, default/init.lua, near the top
00:14 whitephoenix      Oh thanks, I don't have default in my subgame so I was thinking it was in the engine source somewhere
00:15 kaeza             well, you could override it in an on_joinplayer callback
00:55 rubenwardy        or sfinv
02:13 Sokomine          hm. client-side mods....i thought they might be good for things like i.e. carts or other things which would be too slow server-side
02:14 VanessaE          nope.
02:38 LazyJ             Client-side mods - if the client computer is too old and slow or underpowered (small devices), and the client-side mods make playing even more sluggish for the player, then that could convince the player that Minetest is too laggy and not worth playing. Word of mouth can still influence, even negatively.
02:39 LazyJ             That's one of the concerns that have been on my mind in regard to CSM.
02:39 LazyJ
02:39 OldCoder          <OldCoder> http://bower.minetest.org/
02:39 OldCoder          <OldCoder> Announcing an alternate link for CoRNeRNoTe Bower
09:37 ensonic           hi, can anyone recommend a nice mod to take as a template for doing own animals? I'd like to do that with my kids. I've been looking at the animal_modpack, but that brings a lot of own code and I don't know how they converted the blender files to the b3d files (and what kind of format that actually is)
11:33 BBmine            Hello
11:33 BBmine            I just saw that my account has been banned from the forums for a month.
11:36 Krock             not too many shitposts, so this can't be the reason
11:37 BBmine            It said "Repeated shitposting"
11:38 BBmine            It would've been nice if I had been given a warning....
11:38 Krock             oh well, looks like someone had a lower threshold to kick shitposters off
11:38 Krock             perhaps you were already warned a while ago?
11:40 BBmine            Nope. I was never warned.
11:47 sfan5             BBmine: if you had any kid of self-reflection about your behaviour you would have known way earlier
11:47 sfan5             kind*
11:50 BBmine            I saw that I topic I made in General Discussion about what videos I should make next was deleted.
11:51 sfan5             indeed it does not belong there
11:51 BBmine            But where does it belong? Offtopic?
11:51 Krock             yes
11:52 Krock             or "Minetest-related projects" if it's a longer project
11:53 BBmine            I guess it was the random posts of me griefing someone?
12:30 * stormchaser3000 installed a new motherbaord into his computer and is hoping he didn't mess up when connecting a cable
12:30 stormchaser3000   it seems to be working fine
12:30 stormchaser3000   but i don't want it to burst into flames
12:30 stormchaser3000   XD
12:40 Krock             stormchaser3000, overlock the CPU now!
12:40 stormchaser3000   XD
13:46 muhdnurhidayat    if I uses blocks/items as craft recipe AND sounds from default in my mod, should I put default as mandatory dependency or optional, or I don't need to put them?
14:04 sfan5             muhdnurhidayat: technically you don't need to but it's a good idea to put it as a mandatory dependency
14:05 muhdnurhidayat    oh, ok thanks. :D
14:42 DI3HARD139        Quick question. Is there a quick way to obtain the server name from the minetest.conf file?
14:43 DI3HARD139        In any way similar to minetest.get_server_status anyway?
14:44 DI3HARD139        nvm just remembered a way
15:39 ensonic           hi, can anyone recommend a nice mod to take as a template for doing own animals? I'd like to do that with my kids. I've been looking at the animal_modpack, but that brings a lot of own code and I don't know how they converted the blender files to the b3d files (and what kind of format that actually is)
15:40 sfan5             https://github.com/minetest/B3DExport
15:51 fireglow          the more I play with new sneak, the more I want the old behaviour back :s
15:56 sfan5             what parts of the old behaviour
15:57 fireglow          mm just now I was edging on a block with sneak and tried to jump to the next one. Someone built a jump and run kind of game where this is required to complete the course
15:58 sfan5             thats a first
15:58 sfan5             (other people usually complain about two other changes)
15:59 sfan5             i agree that its unfortunate but i haven't looking at solving it yet
15:59 agaran            well for now there is simple solution, compile last version of client before sneak removal merge and live happilly and prosper..
15:59 agaran            at least this is solution that works for me
16:00 sfan5             which parts of the sneak changes do you dislike agaran?
16:01 agaran            well I -used- to use 1k nodes tall sneak ladders in mining, used to climb over edges of machinery to build next levels, and used to ability to crawl on narrow places on walls making invisble paths if back wall was obsidian brick and added were slabs of obsidian glass
16:02 sfan5             sneak ladders might just come back
16:03 agaran            and loosing all that is quite enough to not bother with updating, I play MT to have fun.. and for me, all, introduction of change and how widelly it gets protested is not a good sign.. maybe I am too old to like changes, might be..
16:09 Milan[m]          i know alot of people who would heavily miss sneak ladders as well...
16:09 Fixer             Milan[m]: if you discard kids, yes, sfan5 may have a solution to add them back
16:11 Milan[m]          what do you mean with 'discard kids'?
16:20 Fixer             Milan[m]: kids are on crippled mobile, they can't use sneakladders that easily
16:20 Fixer             thats more like #PCmasterrace problem
16:22 Milan[m]          well...2 of 3 servers i run are not that mobile friendly anyway hihi... maybe it should be configurable and opt-in.
16:22 ronsor            /r/PCMasterRace
16:36 Ronsor            well i compiled minetest
16:37 fireglow          yay
16:39 agaran            I compiled minetest, dug dirt, build cobble hut ?
16:39 fireglow          yay
16:46 Krock             build as many cobble buildings as possible!
16:47 Fixer             as ugly as possible
16:47 sfan5             then you'd need to use dirt
16:52 Fixer             not long ago, while i was roaming different servers I've discovered newly build "house" that had deep 2011 style, it is like I went back 6 years ago... guess the materials
16:52 agaran            heh.. I had idea to make dirt nonusefull for build..
16:53 kaeza             greetings
16:56 Fixer             kaeza:
16:56 kaeza             Fixer,
17:02 Ronsor            yay
17:02 Ronsor            i've my first patch for client mods
17:03 Ronsor            minetest.send_chat_message(message) -- acts just like message was typed in the terminal/chat box
17:03 ensonic           sfan5, thanks
17:03 Ronsor            if anybody is interested, i'll submit a pull request
17:07 sfan5             sounds useful, please do
17:11 Ronsor            ok
17:11 Ronsor            i will
17:17 Ronsor            hey https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/5452
17:21 Krock             hey https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/5452#discussion_r108040767
17:22 kaeza             HEY! LISTEN!
17:23 kaeza             o/ Krock
17:23 Krock             o/ kaeza
17:26 LazyJ             What is the purpose of sending fake messages with Ronsor's mod?
17:27 sfan5             inform the user of something
17:27 LazyJ             And is this seen in the other players' chat?
17:27 sfan5             wait hm
17:28 LazyJ             My concern is it being used to spam the chat.
17:28 Krock             o/ est31
17:29 kaeza             LazyJ, there's server-side flood control available
17:29 kaeza             which I think would be triggered
17:29 LazyJ             kaeza, where? I'd like to read-up on it.
17:29 sfan5             chat spamming is also possible without it
17:30 sfan5             this can help automating things
17:30 Krock             copy a whole text file and paste it - spam on the same level
17:30 LazyJ             Yes, automate admin commands is good but given how bad chat spam is, the hazard is too much.
17:30 sfan5             nah
17:31 LazyJ             And just because something bad is already possible does not justify making it worse.
17:31 sfan5             most people who spam the chat are random kids
17:31 sfan5             which don't know how to install client mods
17:31 sfan5             and are on android anyway
17:32 LazyJ             Looks like I'll be banning more players in the future.
17:33 kaeza             LazyJ, uh, I guess it was not merged yet
17:33 LazyJ             Great. :/
17:33 kaeza             or at least it's not documented in .example
17:34 kaeza             LazyJ, https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/builtin/settingtypes.txt#L788
17:35 LazyJ             Thanks kaeza.
17:35 LazyJ             Already see a loop-hole.
17:35 sfan5             nothing is perfect
17:35 LazyJ             The chat can be spammed by a single character.
17:36 kaeza             no, because of the other settings
17:36 LazyJ             If a non-coder like me can figure this out so easily and quickly, more code-savvy trolls will do worse.
17:37 VanessaE          how exactly do I enable the profiler?
17:37 LazyJ             The 10-second time-out? No good.
17:37 LazyJ             Create a CSM to intermittently spam chat and a bot to relogin after being kicked.
17:37 Krock             VanessaE, do you mean "instrument.profiler"?
17:38 VanessaE          Krock: yeah, whatever it is people are calling the mod profiler
17:38 fireglow          LazyJ: so?
17:38 VanessaE          (and, why is this not documented?)
17:38 fireglow          no system is 100% effective in removing spam
17:38 LazyJ             Chat spam is annoying fireglow.
17:38 kaeza             VanessaE, it is in settingtypes.txt
17:38 kaeza             but for some reason not in .conf
17:38 fireglow          LazyJ: so propose a system that deals with it
17:38 Krock             oh, apparently it's "profiler.load"
17:38 agaran            fireglow: well if you turn off internets, you have no spam ;)
17:38 fireglow          agaran ;)
17:39 Krock             instrument.profiler only profiles the profiler itself
17:39 kaeza             VanessaE, https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/builtin/settingtypes.txt#L1216
17:39 LazyJ             fireglow, I did not create this problem and I did not give trolls the tools to make it worse. The ball goes back to the devs.
17:39 fireglow          writing a minetest client is not that hard, it's been done in perl, hah
17:40 VanessaE          thanks, kaeza
17:40 kaeza             yqw
17:41 fireglow          if alice wants to spam your server, LazyJ, alice will find a way
17:41 kaeza             I guess people don't run https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/builtin/mainmenu/generate_from_settingtypes.lua too often
17:42 Krock             what? this file even exists? :3
17:43 sfan5             it's a just a decoration
17:45 kaeza             it used to be worse
17:45 kaeza             it was on display in the bottom of a locked filing cabinet stuck in a disused lavatory with a sign on the door saying "beware of the leopard"
17:45 kaeza             a.k.a. somewhere at the bottom of some file :)
18:03 red-002           I have a feeling #5452 will generate a lot of "entertaining" forum discussions
18:13 MinetestBot       02[git] 04nerzhul -> 03minetest/minetest: Add clang format & skip build if no source file modified (#5433) 1322567d1 https://git.io/vSIkn (152017-03-25T18:12:18Z)
18:23 red-002           Ronsor, adding a way to break blocks is probably not a good idea
18:24 red-002           it's unlikely to be merged
18:26 Krock             hehe kaeza, unbelieveable that you've found that file in such a place
18:52 GNU[BDC]          how to make mt server use more cores?
18:52 Krock             doubt that's possible
18:53 Krock             at least the mapgen can be spread on multiple threads
18:53 Krock             # num_emerge_threads = 1
18:53 Out`Of`Control    Krock:  when i use WE to tweak, mt uses only 1 core.
18:53 agaran            because lua works as single tread thus one core
18:54 agaran            and I doubt you will see multi-threaded lua anytime soon in MT.. it is very complex to get working multithreaded interpreters..
18:54 Krock             but parallel running threads could be executed on a different core IIRC
18:55 Out`Of`Control    but mods and so all run on one core
18:55 Krock             exactly. that's why Lua mapgens will never be faster than C++ ones (with the same functionality)
18:56 Out`Of`Control    need to sell other 3 cores lol
18:56 Krock             i7 out, adapter and P 1 in
18:57 Krock             a trophy to the one who manages to do such a hardware hack
18:58 Out`Of`Control    or i have to run 2x WE each on its own core haha
19:00 sofar             the cost of multithreading would be more locks
19:00 sofar             and locks would slow down lots of simple operations
19:01 sofar             without profiling data, it's not possible to even determine what could be made parallel
19:02 agaran            sofar: I thought once about making just map save/load/management thread as separate, but I didn't even tried to estabilish how much changes it might cause, just used some part of ceph inner architecture as an reference idea
19:04 sofar             you really need to profile the server separately without any locally connected clients
19:05 sofar             so, you can't even profile the server if you have only 1 machine
19:08 agaran            well I do have >1 so..
19:11 Sokomine          i still wonder if all the copying of data between core and lua when using lua mapgens isn't one of the major factors of slowdown. at least it seemed to be so in my tests. has been a while since i last looked
19:12 agaran            Sokomine: it may be, I am not remembering who, proved results that doing all-lua stuff was faster than C++ side calling maany lua callbacks
20:01 strncpy           Hi
20:01 red-002           hi
20:03 * red-002         waits for strcpy to join
20:04 sfan5             you can't that's unsafe
20:04 agaran            ;)
20:05 diemartin         char s[5]; strncpy(s, "Hello", sizeof(s));
20:05 diemartin         <_<
20:05 sfan5             diemartin: what happens if sizeof(char) != 1
20:06 diemartin         magic?
20:06 sfan5             nah
20:06 sfan5             the c standard prohibits that
20:07 diemartin         hence, non-standard behavior, aka magic :)
20:21 Milan[m]          can't i check for player privs on_construct? it works somehow only on_punch for me o.O
20:53 fireglow          important safety announcement re. cats https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_8mdH20qTQ
20:53 sfan5             !title
20:53 MinetestBot       sfan5: Remove cat before flight - YouTube
20:57 Ronsor            red-002: I don't mind having a way to break blocks
20:57 Ronsor            i'll just have to write a program that will apply my patches to minetest
20:58 Ronsor            and distribute my own builds
21:12 Ronsor            It seems to me people from non-English speaking countries and children are the main demographic of Minetest
21:13 Ronsor            atleast according to the people that join my server
21:13 Ronsor            out of this, atleast 50% of them are bound to grief
21:13 sfan5             that's the main demographic of the android client
21:13 sfan5             which dominate the playerbase
21:13 Ronsor            80% of guests are going to grief
21:15 Krock             use the setting "default_password" and paste the password into the description to keep off kids
21:15 Ronsor            i like kids
21:15 Ronsor            for me, the kids aren't the griefers
21:15 PureTryOut[m]     really? most Minetest players use the Android client?
21:15 Ronsor            mostly non-English speakers; likely because of language barriers making it impossible to communicate rules
21:15 Ronsor            though my server allows griefing
21:15 Ronsor            and wars
21:15 PureTryOut[m]     tbh I find that hard to believe
21:16 Ronsor            i sure don't
21:16 Ronsor            I have lots of users on iPads and android phones & tablets
21:16 sfan5             PureTryOut[m]: heres the stats https://kitsunemimi.pw/tmp/serverlist_stats_2017-03-17.txt
21:16 Ronsor            the iPad users have a bootleg minetest installed
21:16 Krock             alyways these ninjas ^
21:16 Ronsor            like Worldcraft
21:16 Krock             was two seconds too late to hit enter for the same link
21:17 Krock             s/lyw/lw/
21:17 fireglow          1927468 servers??
21:17 PureTryOut[m]     1.7m+ players? what the hell?!?
21:17 PureTryOut[m]     or servers?
21:18 Krock             that's the number of calls to the server
21:18 Krock             if each player checks out the server list 20 times this number goes fast downwards
21:18 fireglow          oh players, these are the weblogs from the serverlist the client fetches
21:18 Ronsor            hey that can be part of advertising
21:18 Ronsor            Minetest: over 1.7 MILLION players: JOIN TODAY!
21:19 Krock             must play minetest more often again to push the windows stats upwards >:)
21:19 Ronsor            Or I could just write a script to inflate stats
21:20 PureTryOut[m]     Krock: hell no, get it down lower by switching to Linux!
21:20 Krock             PureTryOut[m], my browser is linux, Minetest windows ;)
21:20 Ronsor            I use both
21:21 PureTryOut[m]     wut, why?
21:21 Ronsor            depending on convenience
21:21 Ronsor            because I have both
21:21 Krock             PureTryOut[m], useragents are magic.
21:21 PureTryOut[m]     I know how it works, but why would you want to play Minetest on Windows? 0_0 screw Windows :p
21:22 Milan[m]          wow didn't expect different results between `function(pos, node, puncher)` and `function(pos,puncher,node)`
21:22 Ronsor            I know windoze sucks
21:22 Milan[m]          windows... i don't miss these days
21:22 PureTryOut[m]     Of course it sucks, it's proprietary :p
21:22 Krock             Milan[m], it's not the spaces that matter btw. it's the argument sorting
21:22 PureTryOut[m]     that in itself makes it suck. and then there are the technical aspects on which it sucks
21:23 PureTryOut[m]     not saying that Linux is perfect though
21:23 Krock             oh shit. look at this discussion that I started :<
21:23 Milan[m]          well the spaces would be even more confusing :D i dodn't know that sorting even matters #todayilearned
21:23 Milan[m]          *didn't
21:24 Ronsor            it always matters in programming
21:24 PureTryOut[m]     of course you'll start a discussion by mentioning you use Windows :p
21:24 Milan[m]          but thanks for pointing out, krock!
21:24 PureTryOut[m]     it should start a discussion imo
21:24 Ronsor            >Windows
21:24 Ronsor            I prefer Unixy systems
21:24 Ronsor            but i'm writing my own OS
21:24 Krock             Milan[m], in Lua it's not that logical but in other languages it would throw you an error for passing a different type to an argument of a function
21:25 Ronsor            e.g. C
21:25 Ronsor            which will atleast warn you
21:25 Milan[m]          unixy systems? i don't like macos that much
21:25 Ronsor            Unixy = {BSD,Linux,MacOS}
21:25 Ronsor            I prefer Linux, BSD second
21:25 Ronsor            MacOS is a good user-facing Unix
21:25 PureTryOut[m]     I dislike proprietary systems in general, no matter if it's Unixy or not. but yeah I prefer unixy over NT-y as well
21:25 PureTryOut[m]     like ReactOS is a good project, but I would never use it myself
21:25 Milan[m]          krock, sounds like when i finally go learn golang, i won't run in such an error, right?^^
21:26 Krock             no idea about golang
21:26 PureTryOut[m]     let's start a new discussion
21:26 PureTryOut[m]     Rust > Golang
21:26 Ronsor            Golang > Rust
21:26 Milan[m]          ewwww
21:26 Krock             Golang + Rust < C(++)
21:26 Ronsor            Golang has more sugar (i.e. built in features)
21:26 Ronsor            I honestly prefer C when I don't need too many features
21:27 Ronsor            C++ has gotten out of hand lately
21:27 Ronsor            they keep adding more stuff
21:27 Milan[m]          that's not fair i wanted to have golang and now people are against it
21:27 PureTryOut[m]     new discussion, Vim > Emacs
21:27 Ronsor            I like golang
21:27 Milan[m]          *as my first real language
21:27 Ronsor            Nano > Vim > Emacs
21:27 Ronsor            no wait
21:27 PureTryOut[m]     I'm not against Golang, I just think Rust is better. but tbf, I know jack shit about programming languages lol
21:27 Krock             PureTryOut[m], the winner of that round will be Notepad.exe /s
21:27 Ronsor            Cat > Nano > Vim > Emacs
21:27 Milan[m]          whoooot nothing bigger then vim!
21:27 PureTryOut[m]     Krock: > mfw installing Wine makes notepad.exe the default text editor for everything
21:27 Krock             heheh
21:28 PureTryOut[m]     Ronsor: ed > *
21:28 PureTryOut[m]     ed is the default text editor
21:28 Milan[m]          discourse>nodebb>mybb>phpbb
21:28 Ronsor            hah i don't even have ed
21:28 Ronsor            also i prefer CustomBB
21:28 Ronsor            as in write your own forum software!
21:28 Milan[m]          hah.
21:28 Ronsor            Warning: 82412394012834012 XSS bugs found
21:29 PureTryOut[m]     new discussion: Matrix > IRC > everything else > Discord
21:29 Krock             PureTryOut[m], how can "ed > *" be true if ed ∈ (element of) *
21:29 Ronsor            Discord < *
21:29 Ronsor            also
21:29 Milan[m]          @PureTryOut:matrix.org: forgot about mumble completly :(
21:29 Ronsor            ed > (!(ed) in *)->Array()
21:29 Milan[m]          mastodon>gnusocial>twitter
21:29 PureTryOut[m]     Milan: I did not. it falls under the "everything else" category
21:30 Ronsor            mastodon it!
21:30 PureTryOut[m]     but tbf you can't compare Mumble and IRC lol
21:30 Ronsor            but mastodon is under the AGPL
21:30 Ronsor            which i think is evil personally
21:30 Ronsor            (I like the regular GPL btw)
21:30 PureTryOut[m]     AGPL > *
21:30 Milan[m]          oh come on...
21:30 Ronsor            AGPL < (* - [AGPL])
21:30 Ronsor            the AGPL is an EULA basically
21:30 PureTryOut[m]     so... when will Minetest go AGPL3 everywhere?
21:30 Ronsor            It doesn't only restrict redistribution
21:31 Ronsor            also if Minetest tries to go AGPL I'll have to fork it
21:31 PureTryOut[m]     gl with that lol
21:31 Ronsor            Minetest should go with regular GPL to be honest
21:31 Ronsor            LGPL is best for libraries
21:31 PureTryOut[m]     agreed
21:31 Calinou           Ronsor: LGPL means "lesser" as of 2.1
21:31 Milan[m]          but if someone wanna follow me there: @milan@social.tchncs.de
21:31 Ronsor            I know that
21:31 sfan5             Ronsor: there are no plans for any kind of license change in mt
21:31 Ronsor            but still it's technically used for libaries
21:31 Calinou           it doesn't make much difference in the context of a program like Minetest, it's still a suitable license
21:31 Calinou           it's not like we're using CC BY on code
21:32 Ronsor            yeah
21:32 Ronsor            that would be a MIT license basically
21:32 Calinou           no, it'd be worse
21:32 Ronsor            anyway I think i want to install matrix now
21:32 Ronsor            wait i don't think i have enough disk space
21:32 Ronsor            or ram
21:32 Ronsor            matrix's server is memory hog
21:32 PureTryOut[m]     I do like that Minetest's default textures are all CC BY. allows it to be included with regular package managers
21:32 Ronsor            i mean 2gb is ridiculous for chat
21:33 PureTryOut[m]     Ronsor: people report that it runs fine on a RPi3 (1GB RAM)
21:33 Ronsor            It does?
21:33 Ronsor            I wonder how much disk it takes
21:33 Ronsor            i have 120MB left
21:33 Milan[m]          @freenode_Ronsor:matrix.org: you can restrict memory and you can expect something around 400M - beside, they're rewriting to a new golang server
21:33 Ronsor            (yay USB drives)
21:33 PureTryOut[m]     and the main devs are working on a new (proper) homeserver implementation written in Golang
21:33 Ronsor            ooh golang
21:33 Ronsor            I want to help with that
21:33 PureTryOut[m]     should be way more efficient
21:33 Milan[m]          do it
21:33 Milan[m]          https://github.com/matrix-org/dendron
21:33 PureTryOut[m]     ^ JUST DO IT
21:34 Ronsor            just do it(R)
21:34 Milan[m]          wait, i confused them
21:34 Milan[m]          https://github.com/matrix-org/dendrite
21:34 PureTryOut[m]     yeah Dendron isn't the right one. they should remove the repo imo
21:34 Ronsor            yeah
21:34 Ronsor            it's ded
21:35 Milan[m]          i still want you folks on mastodon :(
21:35 Ronsor            Mastodon it!
21:35 Ronsor            still affero
21:35 Milan[m]          mimimimimi
21:35 Ronsor            which is why i'm working on a new project
21:35 Milan[m]          the dev of masto is a humand - u can talk to him about it
21:36 Milan[m]          -d
21:36 Milan[m]          rofl
21:36 Ronsor            *-d is the correct syntax
21:37 Milan[m]          this is the correct license, this is the correct syntax ... opensource itself doesn't matter anymore in the minetest irc...
21:37 Ronsor            *free software
21:37 Ronsor            I pulled a stallmanism
21:37 Milan[m]          oh come on
21:39 Ronsor            heh
21:39 PureTryOut[m]     what you are reffering to as Linux is in fact GNU/Linux...
21:40 Ronsor            Stop right there
21:40 Ronsor            it's GNU/BSD/X11/MIT/Linux
21:40 Ronsor            oh man you made me do it
21:40 Ronsor            it's GNU/BSD/X11/MIT/Minetest/Firefox/Chrome/Linux
21:42 Milan[m]          ewww `on_construct = function(pos, node, placer)` still don't work :(
21:42 PureTryOut[m]     s/whateveryoujustsaid/systemd
21:42 Ronsor            Systemd will replace linux soon enough
21:44 Milan[m]          can't `minetest.check_player_privs` work `on_construct` in general or is it my code?
21:44 Milan[m]          this time i am sure i do the same thing like i did on_punch
21:46 diemartin         what is your code?
21:46 Ronsor            Please PazteBin it
21:48 Milan[m]          something like this atm https://haste.tchncs.de/raw/ezizarulux
21:48 red-002           physics/silicon/gnu/linux
21:50 Ronsor            Universe/Linux
21:50 diemartin         Milan[m], those two `if`s are not equivalent
21:51 Milan[m]          yes, i know but my problem is that player stays nil :/
21:51 Milan[m]          or...placer in this case
21:51 diemartin         Milan[m], >on_construct = func(pos),
21:52 red-002           still waiting for Room-temperature superconductor/power grid/minix 3
21:52 diemartin         there's no placer argument to on_construc
21:52 diemartin         +t
21:52 diemartin         Milan[m], maybe you meant on_place ?
21:53 diemartin         or something else
21:53 Milan[m]          on_place somehow failed to place the item completly with this...
21:54 Milan[m]          but yeah - comparing with my check on tnt i guess i really forgot something :o
21:54 Milan[m]          or not ..or hm... scratching head
21:55 Milan[m]          how would this argument look like / where exactly do i have to study the docs for it, diemartin?
21:55 diemartin         Milan[m], are you explicitly setting the node in on_place?
21:56 diemartin         Milan[m], lua_api.txt should be the definitive ref
21:57 Milan[m]          will have a look again...ty
22:00 kaeza             yw