Time Nick Message 01:01 redblade7 hey does anyone here by any chance know how the bees mod works? 01:01 redblade7 i cant figure it out 01:02 redblade7 namely, getting a queen bee into the artificial beehive 01:05 VanessaE bas080: *poke* 01:05 VanessaE ^^^ 01:18 redblade7 ok 01:18 redblade7 VanessaE: i'm also looking for a mod, if it exists 01:18 VanessaE ? 01:18 redblade7 is there something similar to the "buy an item from the chest with coins" mod (dontknow the name) 01:18 redblade7 but instead i can have it give away a free item 01:18 redblade7 and can manually as the owner of the chest change that? 01:19 VanessaE currency mod has that feature 01:19 VanessaE or wait 01:19 VanessaE free items too? hm 01:19 VanessaE not sure 01:20 redblade7 i always wondered how currency mod worked. is it like your mod where you have to fashion a gold coin for the soda machine, but for other coins? 01:23 VanessaE it's for general exchange actually 01:23 VanessaE you can for example accept an iron lump to get give the "buyer" a steel ingot if you wanted 01:23 VanessaE anything for anything., 01:25 redblade7 ok 01:25 redblade7 thank you 01:25 redblade7 andit's called "currency"? 01:25 VanessaE yeah 01:25 VanessaE by Dan Duncombe 01:27 XeonSquared Running minetestmapper while the server is running won't cause any issues because it's only reading the world db, right? 01:28 twoelk depends, sqlite doesn't much like it 01:28 redblade7 you could always use cobblestone for "a free item" since it's so easy and you start out with 99 of them 01:29 XeonSquared welkp 01:29 XeonSquared this'll be interesting then 01:42 redblade7 looks like unified_inventory_lite with "multi craft free miner" will crash upon loading the inventory screen 05:23 Hijiri https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?p=258436#p258436 05:41 kaeza Hijiri, nuked 06:24 Milan[m]1 Calinou, dunno if you are the right one to mention - the "actionwindow" or whatever the most of us seem to dislike in the forum appears to be called "jumpbox" and appears as well to be configurable. Here is how it should be possible to disable it: https://www.phpbb.com/community/viewtopic.php?f=46&t=2171587 06:26 Milan[m]1 i am quite sure it is it. https://github.com/phpbb/phpbb/tree/master/phpBB/styles/prosilver/template 06:46 Milan[m]1 loool wonder why there is no decoration.... typed 213 instead 123 08:56 IhrFussel How do I access a global table I created inside one mod from another mod? I tried local bla = modname.tablename but it's nil ... I added the mod with the table to the other mod too 08:57 IhrFussel to the depends.txt of the other mod* 09:01 Krock mod1: mymod1namespace.mytable = {} mod2 which depends on mod1: local specialtable = mymod1namespace.mytable 09:02 MinetestBot 02[git] 04nerzhul -> 03minetest/minetest: TOGGLE_CHAT keymap should togglechat not HUD 139f4916a https://git.io/vy5sv (152017-03-18T09:00:04Z) 09:09 IhrFussel Krock, ModError: Failed to load and run script from /home/minetest/.minetest/worlds/oldserver/worldmods/creative_points/init.lua: 2017-03-18 10:08:49: ERROR[Main]: ...test/worlds/oldserver/worldmods/creative_points/init.lua:2: attempt to index global 'creative_points' (a nil value) 09:10 Krock strange. could you please provide the relevant sauce? 09:10 IhrFussel the line is "creative_points.cplist = {}" 09:12 IhrFussel Krock, http://pastebin.com/7gqfHwe7 09:12 kaeza IhrFussel, you must first creative_points = { } 09:12 Krock creative_points is not a table,t hat's the problem 09:12 An0n3m0us is there an appimage for minetest 0.4.15? 09:13 An0n3m0us or erlier version 09:13 Krock you're trying to index a nil value 09:13 IhrFussel Oh so I need to create 2 tables? And then I can just modify the cplist one for values? 09:13 Krock IhrFussel, creative_points is a table for the whole mod and cplist is the table for the specific data 09:14 Krock you could also use creative_points_llist = {} to save one table-depth 09:15 kaeza minetest will then complain about undeclared global 09:15 kaeza unless your mod is named creative_points_list(?) 09:16 IhrFussel So can I just do creative_points = {} cplist = {} cplist.test = 1 then in the other mod local bla = creative_points.cplist ? 09:17 kaeza if you're worried about performance, do something like `local list = { }; creative_points = { cplist=list }` then use the local `cplist` 09:17 kaeza er, `list` 09:28 IhrFussel Krock, I think I'll stick with the creative_points_cplist solution..it's easier and the "undeclared global variable" warning doesn't bother me...or will that be a problem later on? 09:29 Krock as long the table is defined when you'll need it it won't be a problem 09:39 IhrFussel Huh? Why is the file empty when I try to write the cp to it? I did minetest.log() and it says 4 but the file it is supposed to write it to is empty..created but empty 09:40 kaeza IhrFussel, did you close the file? 09:41 kaeza also, code please 09:41 IhrFussel kaeza, oh so that's what happens when you forget the file:close() line? 09:41 agaran it may never get flushed 09:41 kaeza ^ 09:41 agaran usually file io is buffered.. 09:43 IhrFussel Ok then that was likely my problem 09:43 kaeza files are closed when their handle is GC'd 09:43 kaeza but that may take an unspecified amount of time 09:44 kaeza it's always better to explicitly flush/close as needed 09:45 IhrFussel Yep it works now, forgot to close() 11:55 MinetestBot 02[git] 04ShadowNinja -> 03minetest/minetest: Server list cleanup 13b8484ef https://git.io/vy5Wl (152017-03-18T11:37:57Z) 11:55 MinetestBot 02[git] 04Wuzzy2 -> 03minetest/minetest: Show itemstring as tooltip if no item description 132cc518d https://git.io/vy5W8 (152017-03-18T11:36:28Z) 12:25 Repenter13 Hi there, can this game be used in a classroom? 12:25 Repenter13 Is it difficult to build/set up a server? 12:26 Krock sure. In fact it also works fine while writing exams - it's just not good for the resulting mark ;) 12:26 Krock also no, it's quite easy to set up a server. If the command line is too difficult it's still possible to start a server like a singleplayer world 12:28 Krock !next 12:28 MinetestBot Another satisfied customer. Next! 12:28 Krock ^ can't confirm if satisfied but next customer may come now 12:53 Milan[m] there are already people doing this and a client can open a simple server with few clicks. 13:06 rdococ hm 13:06 rdococ is there a way to spin the player's view? 13:06 Krock do you mean F7? 13:07 rdococ no... 13:07 rdococ I'm basically asking for set_camera_roll 13:23 rdococ no? 13:23 rdococ :c 13:34 rdococ Do ores work in the air? 13:46 Krock yes sure, if you set wherein = "air" 13:50 rdococ I never seem to get ores to work :/ 13:50 rdococ on a different subject: Say I pointed straight up, what would pointed_thing.under be? 13:51 Krock the node that's behind the pointed one 13:51 Krock -> the node on top of the other 13:52 rdococ what if there is no pointed node? e.g. I point straight up 13:52 Krock then you won't have a pointed_thing unless there's an object 13:52 rdococ hm 13:52 rdococ k 13:52 Krock or something else to point 13:53 Krock for the example you're pointing past a torch on the wall, "under" would be the wall and "above" the torch 13:55 rdococ so would pointed_thing be an empty table? because if pointed_thing is nil when not pointing at anything, this code would error 13:56 rdococ aha 13:56 rdococ type="nothing" 13:57 rdococ hm. is there a function to get the position of the moon in the default skybox? 14:04 Krock doubt it 14:13 rdococ aw 14:14 rdococ minetest loves to just crash sometimes when I exit a world 15:18 fireglow !mod moreglass 15:18 MinetestBot fireglow: Could not find anything. 15:18 fireglow !mod moreglas 15:18 MinetestBot fireglow: Could not find anything. 15:21 Milan[m] sfan5? the "actionwindow" or whatever the most of us seem to dislike in the forum appears to be called "jumpbox" and appears as well to be configurable. Here is how it should be possible to disable it: https://www.phpbb.com/community/viewtopic.php?f=46&t=2171587 15:22 fireglow !mod morewood 15:22 MinetestBot fireglow: Could not find anything. 15:22 fireglow !mod moretrees 15:22 MinetestBot fireglow: More Trees! [moretrees] by VanessaE - https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=4394 15:23 fireglow !mod more* 15:23 MinetestBot fireglow: Could not find anything. 15:23 fireglow where is the db? 15:23 Krock fireglow, http://krock-works.16mb.com/MTstuff/modSearch.php?st=0&at=0&q=%5Bmore 15:23 fireglow Krock: thanks! 15:23 fireglow you own 15:24 Krock np, yes, it's running on "my" website 15:24 fireglow =) 16:46 rdococ "your" website 17:02 Milan[m] wonder if someone of the team even read my message :/ 17:41 sfan5 Milan[m]: you need to tell celeron55, i'm only a forum moderator 17:47 Milan[m] oh i see, thanks! 17:50 An0n3m0us are there any appimages for minetest? 19:28 Megaf o/ 19:29 agaran hi Megaf 19:29 Megaf anyone here using Ring? My ring is ring:Megaf 19:30 Milan[m] ew...too busy with migrating to matrix... 19:32 PureTryOut[m] Matrix++ 19:32 Megaf Ring for Windows 10 https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/store/p/gnu-ring/9nblggh43d70 19:32 Megaf or in your GNOME App Store 19:32 Megaf "Ring allows for secure and distributed communication using DHT. It also supports the SIP protocol." 19:32 Megaf Sounds cool 19:33 Milan[m] oh i am so helpless, i have i3wm, not gnome 19:33 Megaf decentralizated, open source, and video calls and chat 19:33 Megaf Milan[m]: https://ring.cx/ 19:33 Milan[m] matrix as well including e2ee 19:34 Milan[m] megaolm here 19:34 Milan[m] argh looks like drop = needs items = as well! 19:36 Milan[m] argh...syntax! 19:36 Milan[m] ....okey not really syntax, linting succeed... 19:38 Milan[m] hmmm ring is not even there i guess... however https://matrix.org/docs/guides/faq.html 19:39 Milan[m] oh wait i need items = on each item again xD 19:41 Milan[m] hahaaaa.... i won 19:47 Megaf Calinou: Why you no on Ring? 19:48 Calinou no need for it 19:48 Calinou also, the UI isn't quite good 19:48 Megaf Since when we do stuff because a need? 19:49 fireglow what's a ring? 19:49 Calinou it's a free/open source IM app 19:49 fireglow ooh right 19:50 Megaf https://ring.cx/ 19:50 Milan[m] i think matrix is the better way to do so but i don't wanna spam the minetest chat with this topic again :D 19:51 Fixer so much hip stuff those days 19:55 fireglow tox sucked too 19:56 fireglow just use whatsapp lel 19:56 agaran yes.. and all that just to get online on old irc.. 19:57 Megaf WhatsApp kinda work nicely now a days 19:57 Megaf but I hate it :D 19:59 fireglow use Signal 19:59 Megaf the app sucks 19:59 fireglow even has a chrome app 19:59 Calinou Telegram is what some of my IRL friends use 20:00 Calinou and… Facebook Messenger [horror] 20:00 Calinou 90% of them use that :( 20:00 Megaf I found my dentist on Telegram. That was crazy 20:00 Megaf on my main phone I only have Hangouts tho. And the duo Allo/Duo 20:01 Megaf Hangouts is INHO the best communication software ever 20:01 Megaf multiplatform, opensource protocol, efficient and do everything 20:03 Calinou Hangouts is not really open source friendly, I'd say 20:03 Calinou Godot Engine has an unofficial Discord, it's going well so far 20:04 PureTryOut[m] Discord-- 20:08 Calinou sure, it's proprietary, but it's a decent IM app 20:08 Calinou without any open source alternative :( 20:08 Calinou Rocket.Chat is ok, but feels too serious :P 20:08 Calinou same for Gitter (which will be open sourced in a few months at most) 20:11 fireglow jabber 20:12 Megaf XMPP 20:12 Megaf Hangouts is XMPP, FaceBook used to be, and the crypto thing from WhatsApp can be traced back to XMPP 20:13 fireglow I use Gajim on PC, Conversations on Android for Jabber, works well 20:16 Milan[m] err hangouts was xmpp 20:16 Milan[m] how did you come from opensource and decentralized to hangouts/whatsapp/facebook in general? 20:17 fireglow I made a bad joke 20:17 Milan[m] matrix did all for me what i was hoping to get with xmpp btw 20:17 fireglow that's what I do, I make bad jokes and shit goes to hell. 20:17 fireglow My name is Donald Trump 20:17 Milan[m] just like mastodon is giving me all gnusocial should be 20:17 Milan[m] and something smells odd in my room 20:18 fireglow it's me, I'm under your bed 20:18 fireglow do you have a spare soda? 20:18 Milan[m] ooh, one problem less, next problem 20:21 Megaf Whats Matrix? 20:22 Megaf I think DHT should rule everything 20:22 Megaf no more DNS/IP stuff 20:22 Milan[m] https://matrix.org/docs/guides/faq.html 20:40 Megaf man, vanilla ice cream with oreo, that is delicious 20:52 Milan[m] so u try to protect ur privacy but destroy your body with this poison like stuff? 20:52 Milan[m] ;) 20:56 Megaf once a month, it won't kill me 22:32 Megaf sfan5: why you no Ring? 22:33 sfan5 i'm already on too many different platforms 22:33 Megaf I know the feeling. 22:33 Megaf I dropped almost everything already 22:33 Megaf sticking to IRC and email tho 22:33 Megaf and WhatsApp because mom 23:11 Milan[m] lol... getting connection timeout after a crash in singleplayer :D 23:11 Milan[m] ...but only in servermode 23:12 Milan[m] ah, joining in clientmode, back to server, worked 23:21 Megaf meh, nouveau driver going nuts here 23:21 Megaf [17391.808048] nouveau 0000:04:00.0: gr: 00000010 [ILLEGAL_MTHD] ch 6 [000f6b8000 systemd-logind[527]] subc 2 class 502d mthd 0320 data 0000001c