Time Nick Message 00:00 Hijiri I'm unsure how call/cc interacts with embedding though 00:00 Hijiri probably badly 00:01 Hijiri I would suggest Haskell over Scheme if it was easy to embed 00:01 Hijiri I'm being completely unironic 00:07 redblade7 hi 00:07 redblade7 hey listen 00:07 redblade7 i was thinking of setting up a second server (again) 00:08 redblade7 this time it would be a sandbox server, but with mapgen valleys and no jungles 00:08 redblade7 no protection or anything 00:08 redblade7 but a question i have 00:08 Jordach new Kra-ys server wen 00:08 redblade7 are sandbox servers required to have pvp? 00:09 Jordach *shrug* 00:09 redblade7 i dont want to call something "sandbox" and have it not be that 00:10 redblade7 also, there would be much less mods than creative gardens 00:10 redblade7 like 4 pages of unified_inventory compared to creative gardens' 32 00:11 redblade7 sandbox with valleys can lead to some nasty griefing though that's what im' concerned with 00:11 redblade7 by accident too 00:12 redblade7 but with sandbox where do you draw the line with regards to griefing 00:12 redblade7 another issue too 00:12 Jordach ask 2b2t 00:12 redblade7 who's 2b2t 00:12 Jordach the anarchy Minecraft server 00:13 redblade7 i saw that there but it didnt use valleys 00:14 Jordach the C++ doesn't grief 00:14 redblade7 i dont think so anyway 00:15 redblade7 creative gardens is near griefer-proof (with the exception of dumping water and travelnets and bothering other people while they build) 00:16 redblade7 oh and dumping rats 00:19 redblade7 as has apparently happened now 00:19 redblade7 i want to make it easier to tame kittens by leaving them in creative inventory 00:19 redblade7 tbut occasionally griefers keep dumping them 00:26 redblade7 user RTFG 00:26 redblade7 109.201.223.88 00:26 redblade7 did a rollback and clearing objects on my server 00:30 Jordach shouldn't those have the server priv on them 00:30 Jordach tat shouldn't be given to anyone 00:31 redblade7 lol 00:31 redblade7 yes 00:31 redblade7 he's the griefer 00:31 redblade7 i was cleaning up his miss 00:31 redblade7 mess 00:31 redblade7 s/did/just did 00:32 redblade7 just putting his info here in case others run into trouble 00:32 redblade7 the log was flooded with his activation of mobs_animal:rat and putting more into his chests 00:32 redblade7 it does happen sometimes but everyone loves the kittens so 00:33 redblade7 doesn't look like anarchist server uses valleys, but i'm not sure 00:36 redblade7 it's in the situation where servers.minetest.net no longer gets all the information 00:36 redblade7 creative gardens gets in that too but i shut it down for backups a lot 00:38 redblade7 there are a few things i would do diffrently if i ran a sandbox server 00:38 redblade7 namely a few more rules and animal mobs (cotton is near impossible to find for wool) 00:39 redblade7 and no jungeles 01:48 riff-IRC Hi 02:18 redblade7 hi 02:43 garywhite Hi redblade7, riff-IRC 02:43 riff-IRC Hello 02:43 riff-IRC WAIT 02:45 riff-IRC Hi LazyJ 02:45 LazyJ Howdy riff 02:45 Eater4 garywhite, please check your pm 02:46 riff-IRC How's the server? 02:47 redblade7 hi 02:47 redblade7 setting up a new server 02:47 MinetestBot TheInformer: Feb-17 21:49 UTC the parameter "ore" defines the node that is generated, in your case this would have the value "survivalplus:nickel_ore". 02:47 riff-IRC Nice 02:47 riff-IRC ? 02:47 LazyJ Its doing fine. 02:47 riff-IRC What's MinetestBot doing here? 02:47 TheInformer giving me a message... 02:48 riff-IRC how do you interact with MinetestBot? 02:48 TheInformer idk 02:48 Eater4 MinetestBot: list 02:48 TheInformer !msg 02:49 TheInformer MinetestBot: help 02:49 Eater4 ~list 02:49 ShadowBot Eater4: Admin, Aka, Anonymous, BanNotify, Brainfuck, Channel, ChannelLogger, ChannelStats, Conditional, Config, Ctcp, DDG, Debug, DerplangPlus, Dict, Filter, FloodProtector, Format, Games, GitHub, Karma, Later, Logger, Math, MessageParser, Minetest, Misc, MoobotFactoids, Network, Note, Owner, Plugin, Quote, Reply, Scheduler, Services, Status, String, Time, Topic, URL, Unix, User, Util, (1 more message) 02:49 riff-IRC ~list 02:49 Eater4 ~ping 02:49 ShadowBot riff-IRC: Admin, Aka, Anonymous, BanNotify, Brainfuck, Channel, ChannelLogger, ChannelStats, Conditional, Config, Ctcp, DDG, Debug, DerplangPlus, Dict, Filter, FloodProtector, Format, Games, GitHub, Karma, Later, Logger, Math, MessageParser, Minetest, Misc, MoobotFactoids, Network, Note, Owner, Plugin, Quote, Reply, Scheduler, Services, Status, String, Time, Topic, URL, Unix, User, Util, (1 more message) 02:49 ShadowBot pong 02:49 TheInformer ~msg 02:49 riff-IRC Ok Ok Ok 02:49 riff-IRC That Is Enough 02:49 TheInformer lol 02:49 TheInformer Does anyone know if someone has made a half-life mod? 02:49 TheInformer or is working on one? 02:50 TheInformer ~pong 02:51 TheInformer ~Games 02:53 * TheInformer is afk 03:54 garywhite If anyone sees Eater4 or Nate tell him idk what's up with InchraNet, but that I'll talk to VE 03:59 redblade7 hey is it still true that you should have 0,0,0 free 04:00 redblade7 i'm trying to generate a new map for a new server but i'm using valleys which you have to find the right seed and most of them are higher up 04:17 redblade7 seed number 37 and still no 0,0,0 in a forest 04:21 redblade7 seed 45 is off a little but i can try worldedit 04:23 redblade7 nope messed up lighting 04:40 redblade7 i see a valleys server with a ladder up maybe should try that 05:35 cheapie OK, so I've managed to make a mod that replaces giant rgblightstone display panels with SDL windows. It's not much use in a multiplayer environment, of course, as the windows are spawned on the server end, but it's rather fun to play with in singleplayer. 05:36 cheapie (using lua-sdl2, for the record) 06:20 TheInformer Is it possible to see do something if the player is holding down his mouse instead of just clicking it? 08:07 redblade7 OK, officially up, "THE VALLEYS" 08:08 redblade7 Have to post it to the forum but I'm tired and have to go to bed and busy tomorrow 08:08 redblade7 Sandbox server goodnight 10:33 MinetestBot 02[git] 04sfan5 -> 03minetest/master-server: Update detection of guest clients 135e12cb5 https://git.io/vD78Z (152017-02-18T10:31:24Z) 11:07 PureTryOut[m] I'm looking at the node texture documentation (http://dev.minetest.net/texture), and I was wondering of the height and width parameters of the "[combine]" command are in pixels or not 11:07 PureTryOut[m] (same with x1, and y1) 11:14 sfan5 what other unit would they be in? 11:16 PureTryOut[m] no clue but it doesn't seem to be pixels at all 11:18 MinetestBot 02[git] 04red-001 -> 03minetest/minetest: Add support for the new arguments of `request_shutdown` to the `/shut… 133d25914 https://git.io/vD7Be (152017-02-18T11:16:11Z) 11:46 PureTryOut[m] interesting how `transparent.png^[combine:0x0:0,0=test.png` shows the whole of test.png (transparent.png being a 16x16 empty transparent image) 14:06 silwol what's a good up-to-date timber mod? I only seem to find outdated ones on the net. 14:06 rubenwardy if they work, they're probably still work ok 14:26 MinetestBot 02[git] 04red-001 -> 03minetest/minetest: Use the `ARRLEN` macro in more places and remove an unused macro. (#5… 13d988f9b https://git.io/vD7gy (152017-02-18T14:24:49Z) 14:33 bas080 /sdawd/close 14:38 MinetestBot 02[git] 04red-001 -> 03minetest/minetest: Fix not being able to damage players in minimal (#5266) 135db41d4 https://git.io/vD728 (152017-02-18T14:36:29Z) 14:49 Out`Of`Control est31: hey can i query you 14:50 est31 Out`Of`Control: what is your question 14:50 Out`Of`Control about leaftest 14:51 est31 yes 14:52 Out`Of`Control est31: it was working fine, now i keep getting this error 14:52 Out`Of`Control http://paste.debian.net/915331/ 14:53 Out`Of`Control what could be wrong? 14:53 sfan5 est31: why did leaftest need rogiers mapper build again? 14:53 est31 I think it used some of the extra commands that rogier's mapper had 14:53 sfan5 i didn't see any in your repo 14:54 est31 Out`Of`Control: I'm not sure, possibly something changed in the database format 14:54 est31 Out`Of`Control: ask sfan5 14:55 sfan5 what you're seeing is just the sqlite library failing to do something 14:55 est31 sfan5: if you want to get it working on the official mapper, feel free to drop a PR 14:55 sfan5 completely unrelated to the database format 14:55 sfan5 est31: it looks like it should work out-of-the-box with the official mapper so i'm quite confused 14:56 Out`Of`Control i can try on older map 14:57 Out`Of`Control sfan5: it was working fine some months a go 14:59 est31 sfan5: can you point me to the commit that changed the mapblock serialisation? 14:59 est31 did something in the sqlite format change? 15:00 sfan5 it did 15:00 est31 like, idk mod meta in database? 15:00 sfan5 but that would result in a different error 15:00 sfan5 https://github.com/Rogier-5/minetest-mapper-cpp/issues/19 15:15 Out`Of`Control sfan5 est31 works fine with map from 17 nov 15:16 MinetestBot zorman2000: Feb-05 14:47 UTC If you're still fighting with formspecs, take a look at this: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=16594&p=249868. It's almost identical to the other one, but in mod form and seems more reliable. 15:19 Out`Of`Control updating minetestmapper should fix it? 15:38 Fixer Out`Of`Control: yes 15:39 Fixer Out`Of`Control: https://github.com/minetest/minetestmapper/commit/21444d00c35dc6896ffc27af7da38d8a296178fd 15:40 Out`Of`Control Fixer: i try it did not help updating minetestmapper 15:41 Fixer Out`Of`Control: whats your engine version? 15:41 Out`Of`Control not so old 15:46 Fixer Out`Of`Control: give me exact commit 16:00 Calinou small poll: do you think I can label More Blocks, More Ores and Map Tools as version 1.0.0? this was requested by a few Linux distribution packagers :) 16:00 Calinou they seem to be stable enough for that, also I'll keep a changelog starting from that version (CHANGELOG.md probably) 16:01 Calinou so we can document fixes done over versions 16:01 rubenwardy yes 16:01 rubenwardy more [blocks/ores] definitely 16:01 rubenwardy can't remember Map Tools - is that the one with the admin pickaxe in it? 16:01 Calinou yep 16:05 red-001 well this is a thing https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Association_of_Deletionist_Wikipedians 16:11 cimbakahn Hello Everyone! 16:13 cimbakahn What is the difference between karsthafen_2015-02-08 & karsthafen_2016-05-07 ? 16:14 rubenwardy different dates 16:14 Krock the upload date? 16:14 Krock damn it, always these ninjas 16:14 rubenwardy you'd probably want the 2016 one 16:15 cimbakahn I know that, but i was wondering if there were any building/construction changes? 16:15 red-001 so what is karsthafen? 16:16 Krock check out the topic. if there's no post about it, then ask solars in a PM no the forums 16:16 Krock red-001, a map 16:16 cimbakahn It is a WORLD for Minetest. 16:17 cimbakahn Karsthafen ----> https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=6642 16:18 Out`Of`Control Fixer: how can i see? 16:19 Wuzzy Lua question: Is it OK to make a nodebox of 0 width (for a plane-like texture)? 16:19 rubenwardy on screen text whilst playing 16:19 rubenwardy Wuzzy: you'll probably cause z-problems 16:19 rubenwardy better to make 0.001 or smth 16:20 cimbakahn I noticed that the 2015 one is 1.5GB & and the 2016 one is 2.8GB ? 16:20 Wuzzy it seems to render fine with 0 width xd 16:20 Wuzzy xD 16:20 juhdanad Wuzzy: maybe signlike is sufficient for you. 16:20 Wuzzy no 16:20 Wuzzy I need a 3D box AND a flat plane 16:20 Fixer Out`Of`Control: --version 16:20 Wuzzy or am i forced to use a mesh? 16:21 juhdanad If your plane is not near to an other parallel plane, then there will be no z-fighting. 16:21 Out`Of`Control Fixer: i see only Build info: VER=0.4.15-dev 16:21 Wuzzy well, its not really a plane 16:21 Wuzzy its a nodebox of 0 width 16:21 Fixer Out`Of`Control: and if you run minetest.exe, it shows version in title 16:21 Wuzzy is it even permitted in minetest or is this discouraged? 16:21 Fixer Out`Of`Control: the one on server 16:22 Out`Of`Control exe??? 16:22 Out`Of`Control sec 16:22 juhdanad Wuzzy: it will render properly, but do use backface culling. 16:22 cimbakahn That would mean the mod has increased in size by 1.3GB. This increase is quite significant. So i was wondering if more buildings and stuff were created in the 2nd one? 16:22 Fixer Out`Of`Control: binary 16:22 Wuzzy how? 16:23 juhdanad Just do not write backface_culling=false to your tile definitions. 16:23 Out`Of`Control Fixer: i have no exe file 16:24 Fixer Out`Of`Control: nevermind, you have to remember what version you compiled, write it down and it will be useful later 16:25 Out`Of`Control Fixer: it was compiled on 29 jan 16:25 Out`Of`Control so from 29 jan 16:25 Fixer much better 16:27 Fixer Out`Of`Control: then it is not related to major update, which is Lighting: Update lighting at block loading ( feb 13 2017 0 16:30 Out`Of`Control Fixer: i have map from 17 feb works fine, recent map fails with errors 16:43 kaeza greetings 16:43 rubenwardy hi? 16:44 Fixer hi 16:44 rubenwardy hey 16:45 rubenwardy oh, already aid that 16:45 rubenwardy although less certainly 16:52 moondeck hello 16:52 Krock hi 16:53 moondeck just thought i would install minetest to see how good my new server performs :) 16:58 Krock you'll need an i7 + 10 GiB ram at least 16:58 Krock then throw some good mods on it and let us enjoy this amazing fast server :P 16:59 moondeck it runs C2D e8400 and 4 gigs 16:59 agaran E8400 is not bad cpu.. 17:00 agaran Krock: ;) 17:00 moondeck its a bit old though 17:00 moondeck thinking about getting a xeon and an adapter for the mobo 17:00 moondeck i've actually built the server myself 17:00 moondeck converted a switch rack case to mATX 17:00 moondeck and then a server PSU to ATX 17:00 moondeck and just shoved it in there 17:01 moondeck not sure if it can handle the cooling of a quad core 17:01 moondeck hmm, lets compile minetest first 17:01 agaran moondeck: get 32+ cores if you want to see cooling problems;) 17:02 moondeck agaran problem was fitting the standard intel cooling solution on a 1.5U case 17:02 Krock ^ set them on FSB multipier 1 and the problems are history 17:03 agaran Krock: but then why bother ;) 17:03 moondeck but i've removed the top fan, and instead its blowing from the side 17:10 kaeza a server runs quite well on a dual core and even single core processors 17:11 moondeck kaeza yeah, i am probably gonna open it to the public once its set 17:11 moondeck i havent played MT for quite a while 17:11 kaeza Lua is singlethreaded anyway so throwing more cores at it won't do anything 17:11 kaeza may help with other parts though 17:11 moondeck almost done compiling 17:11 rubenwardy good for mapgen 17:12 rubenwardy and emerge 17:12 moondeck emerge? gentoo? 17:13 kaeza lol 17:22 Krock uninstall gentoo 17:22 moondeck yeah 17:22 moondeck its shit 17:22 moondeck i mean you need quite a neckbeard to use it 17:22 moondeck debian is superior 17:22 moondeck >inb4 "install gentoo" is a meme 17:24 moondeck can i somehow OP an user on a server? 17:25 moondeck nvm, got it 17:27 moondeck so, if i've compiled minetest, and i am running a server, where is the config at? 17:27 moondeck i cant find anything in .minetest 17:27 Krock http://wiki.minetest.net/Minetest.conf 17:27 Krock you have to run and exit minetest once to generate that file 17:29 moondeck thanks 17:31 Krock !next 17:31 MinetestBot Another satisfied customer. Next! 17:31 moondeck how about default privs? 17:33 moondeck and are there plugins where i can assign a certain area to a player? 17:33 kaeza !mod areas 17:33 MinetestBot kaeza: Advanced area protection [areas] by ShadowNinja - https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=7239 17:33 kaeza ^ that? 17:34 moondeck i guess 17:36 Krock there are more, such as landrush, protector and simple_protection 17:38 moondeck i just need to be able to give blocks away 17:38 moondeck !mod border 17:38 MinetestBot moondeck: Could not find anything. 17:38 moondeck hmm 17:38 moondeck !mod world 17:38 MinetestBot moondeck: worldedge [worldedge] by Don - https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=10753 17:39 Krock Check out http://krock-works.16mb.com/MTstuff/modSearch.php and http://app-mtmm.rubenwardy.com/mods/ 17:39 Krock there you will get some more results :) 17:39 moondeck nice 17:39 moondeck still no good border mod though? 17:40 moondeck i need to get to know LUA 17:40 moondeck Lua* 17:40 moondeck or whatever 17:40 moondeck i only know C and x86 asm 17:40 kaeza https://github.com/mniip/LUA 17:40 Krock a border that limits the world generation, as example? 17:40 moondeck yeah 17:40 Krock yes, LUA is great. FOR K,V IN PAIRS() 17:41 Krock # Where the map generator stops. 17:41 Krock # type: int min: 0 max: 31000 17:41 Krock # map_generation_limit = 3100 17:41 moondeck IT SEEMS REALLY STRANGE THOUGH WITH ALL THAT CASE 17:41 Krock ^ minetest.conf.example 17:42 moondeck how can i assign some kind of default permissions? 17:42 Krock # default_privs = interact, shout 17:42 Krock ^ minetest.conf.example 17:43 Krock and now turn your grep on and look through that file 17:43 moondeck eh 17:43 moondeck stoopid me 17:43 moondeck for admin can i just do "*" 17:43 Krock huh 17:44 moondeck an admin should have all the permissions 17:45 moondeck the Wiki doesnt provide the meaning of "server_dedicated", should i set it to yes? 17:45 Krock just set the setting "name = " to make yourself some kind of "superuser" 17:46 Krock server_dedicated appears to be a deprecated setting 17:46 kaeza then /grantme all 17:46 Krock or /grant all, if the one above isn't a known command 17:47 moondeck server_dedicated is not deprecated 17:47 moondeck since i've compiled the newest version 17:49 rubenwardy ignore server_dedicated 17:49 rubenwardy it's automatic 17:50 moondeck how can i make a dedicated server though? aside from the network setup, do i need anything else? 17:50 rubenwardy minetestserver 17:50 moondeck yeah, obv 17:50 rubenwardy if you use minetestserver or minetest --server (they are equivalent) then server_dedicated will equal true 17:50 moondeck right 17:51 rubenwardy as for stay alive 17:51 rubenwardy you can use a bash script 17:51 rubenwardy or something like systemd 17:51 moondeck for now i will just keep it open in a terminal 17:51 moondeck any way i could set the MOTD? 17:51 rubenwardy motd in settings 17:51 rubenwardy and now turn your grep on and look through that file 17:52 moondeck Wiki is saying its deprecated and old 17:52 rubenwardy it's not 17:52 rubenwardy where do you see that? 17:52 moondeck http://wiki.minetest.net/Minetest.conf.example 17:53 Krock I said that. It's not used anywhere and nobody really cares about it 17:53 rubenwardy it says that page is outdated, not the motd setting 17:53 rubenwardy and motd is still used on join 17:53 rubenwardy but not many people look at it 17:54 Krock nvm, I thought it was still about the dedicated server setting 17:54 Krock https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commits/master/minetest.conf.example is always up-to-date and offers you a good documentation 17:54 moondeck with MOTD i mean the "name" of the server 17:55 rubenwardy server_name, then 17:55 Krock server_name? 17:55 Krock MOTD = message of the day btw 17:55 moondeck used to be called MOTD in MC 17:55 moondeck i know what it means 17:56 rubenwardy MOTD is a message shown when you join the server, not the server's name 17:56 Krock ^ 17:57 PureTryOut[m] "Message of the Day" 17:57 Krock thanks god that the wiki describes nodes as blocks /s 18:02 moondeck can i get the server indexed somehow or does it happen automatically? 18:03 TheInformer Is anyone here? 18:03 DI3HARD139 Anyone else getting frequent std::bad_alloc? 18:03 DI3HARD139 From no cause 18:03 Krock moondeck, set this to true: # server_announce = false 18:03 Krock DI3HARD139, free some memory and use a lower-resolution texture pack 18:03 TheInformer I need help choosing a license for a mod 18:04 DI3HARD139 Its on a server. | Literally only using about 2GB of 16GB total + 16GB swap 18:04 Krock TheInformer, WTFPL, MIT or BSD3-Clause. Choose with http://tldrlegal.com/ 18:04 moondeck TheInformer MIT 18:04 rubenwardy don't use WTFPL 18:04 Krock DI3HARD139, is it a 64-bit build? 18:04 TheInformer Ok, ill check it out 18:05 DI3HARD139 I would think so. Its fresh from github (2weeks ish ago, probably 3) 18:05 DI3HARD139 Not sure tbh. Ill have to check cmake logs 18:05 TheInformer Ok, Ill use MIT, do I need to put the license terms in my README.MD on github? 18:06 Krock github allows you to include a license when crating a new repo 18:06 TheInformer yeah I chose MIT 18:06 TheInformer oh ok nvmd 18:06 TheInformer it has a license file 18:06 DI3HARD139 Yep 64 18:06 TheInformer ok guys thanks for the help 18:06 Krock !next 18:06 MinetestBot Another satisfied customer. Next! 18:07 DI3HARD139 lol 18:07 Krock DI3HARD139, strange. 18:07 Krock usually it's caused by running out of memory 18:07 moondeck hmm, i have a new build too 18:07 moondeck 64 bit 18:07 moondeck no problems 18:09 fireglow Krock: are you Hybrid Dog? 18:09 Krock correct language, continent but wrong, sadly. 18:09 Krock fireglow, he's rarely here as w_laenger 18:09 fireglow ah, I see. Thanks. 18:09 Krock !next 18:09 MinetestBot Another satisfied customer. Next! 18:09 fireglow I did a bad, bad thing: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?p=252206#p252206 18:10 DI3HARD139 probably a borked subgame again. 18:10 fireglow OVER A YEAR 18:10 DI3HARD139 I though it was the mobs again but it wasn't 18:10 fireglow :< 18:10 DI3HARD139 Im probably hitting lua memory limit. Had to clear up some water griefing on the map 18:10 moondeck if i open my server, would anyone come on and tell me if the config is alright? i wanna test the hardware too 18:11 Krock fireglow, sorry, I don't understand... 18:11 rubenwardy w_laenger == Hybrid Dog?? :O 18:11 fireglow Krock: I forgot to thank him for the addition I suggested, for over a year :< 18:11 Krock rubenwardy, not entirely confirmed 18:12 fireglow mystery! 18:12 Krock fireglow, stuff gets forgotten all the time, so *shrug* 18:12 DI3HARD139 hit me up with the ip/port 18:12 Krock fireglow, you definitely also belong into #minetest-de 18:14 moondeck DI3HARD139 wait a sec, lemme redirect the port 18:15 DI3HARD139 Can't be the timer scripts. Those are working fine on the other servers. 18:17 DI3HARD139 wb 18:17 TheInformer thanks 18:17 TheInformer I have another question lol 18:17 fireglow Krock ;) 18:18 TheInformer is it possible to make an entity explode when it hits a node? 18:20 agaran TheInformer: I'd look at bows mod, as their entities may have such function.. 18:20 TheInformer nope 18:20 TheInformer I checked 18:20 TheInformer just place and destroy 18:20 TheInformer and it only destroys one node 18:23 agaran well if it has routine that reacts -on- hitting node, you can change code there. 18:24 moondeck 185.143.254.252:30000 is the IP 18:24 kaeza and it only destroys one node 18:24 TheInformer yeah 18:24 kaeza huh? I tested yesterday, and TNT arrow works as advertised 18:24 TheInformer Oh, i must be looking at a different mod 18:27 kaeza this is the one I'm using. https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=14384 18:27 kaeza uh 18:27 kaeza I guess AiTechEye == UjEdwin? 18:28 * kaeza hates forum name changes 18:28 fireglow !mod superpick 18:28 MinetestBot fireglow: Superpickaxe [superpick] by Hybrid Dog - https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=3691 18:29 moondeck DI3HARD139 server tells me its an invalid name 18:30 DI3HARD139 invalid name? Upon me connecting or announcing? 18:30 moondeck oh you are on 18:30 moondeck idk 18:30 moondeck server complains 18:30 moondeck that you "tried to connect" 18:30 DI3HARD139 It does that. A lot... 18:40 cimbakahn What is the difference between karsthafen_2015-02-08 & karsthafen_2016-05-07 ? 18:40 cimbakahn I noticed that the 2015 one is 1.5GB & and the 2016 one is 2.8GB ? 18:40 TheInformer im off 18:40 TheInformer thanks for the help again 18:40 cimbakahn That would mean the mod has increased in size by 1.3GB. This increase is quite significant. So i was wondering if more buildings and stuff were created in the 2nd one? 18:44 Calinou I guess AiTechEye == UjEdwin? 18:44 Calinou yes, I changed their username by request 18:44 Krock cimbakahn, no success in looking up the topic about that map? If it's not documented there, ask solars himself 18:50 zyabin101 What would you suggest to make for generator-minetest? 18:51 zyabin101 Calinou, no answer on the "innocent IP blocked from forum by Spamhaus" problem? 18:51 Calinou zyabin101: I'm not sure who has permissions to whitelist IPs 18:52 sfan5 forum admins 18:52 zyabin101 :D 18:54 Baffy[m] i built an underwater bunker and tried to empty it out, seems impossible 18:54 Baffy[m] after trying far too long 18:54 Baffy[m] seems like the water source blocks just come back\ 18:54 zyabin101 And celeron seems to be the only one able to, according to https://forum.minetest.net/memberlist.php?mode=leaders 18:54 Krock Baffy[m], start with the most top water layer 18:55 garywhite ircSparky: Message from OldCoder, happy birthday 18:55 Krock fill it entirely with nodes, then remove each and move on with the next layer 18:55 Krock water nodes will renew on corners 18:56 rdococ I'm working on a laptop mod which has a laptop node. when you right click on it, the gui pops up. 18:56 rdococ how do I respond to the player clicking stuff in that gui? 18:56 zyabin101 I *had* a node template, but the computer which has it has absolutely died. 18:57 rubenwardy on_receive_formspec in nodedef, rdococ 18:57 rdococ k 18:57 rubenwardy if you're using node meta formspecs 18:57 rdococ ty 18:57 rdococ ye 18:57 rubenwardy on_receive_fields = func(pos, formname, fields, sender) 18:58 rdococ wait 18:58 rdococ ok 19:00 cimbakahn Krock, Thanks! 19:05 Baffy[m] oh cool 19:06 Krock !next 19:06 MinetestBot Another satisfied customer. Next! 19:07 moondeck DI3HARD139 did it work well? 19:07 moondeck you timed out 19:07 moondeck eh shit 19:07 rdococ I'm working on a computer mod that WORKS?! :O 19:07 moondeck rdococ what mod? 19:07 juhdanad You should change !next to tell the number of statisfied customers of the day. 19:08 kaeza THIRD computer mod that WORKS :D 19:08 fireglow indeed 19:08 moondeck DI3HARD139 you timed out? 19:08 rdococ wait, there are TWO WORKING COMPUTER MODS? 19:08 Krock - DI3HARD139 quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 19:08 kaeza fourth if you count mesecons 19:08 Krock yes, that's a ping timeout 19:08 moondeck Krock i know 19:08 moondeck wanna know what happened, he was testing my server 19:09 DI3HARD139 reconnecting 19:09 moondeck people just left xD 19:09 rdococ tell me 19:09 kaeza rdococ, https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=15886&p=239682 | https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=16538 19:09 moondeck rdococ tell you what? 19:10 rdococ nvm 19:11 kaeza don't let that discourage you. we have 5 bows mods, 4 nether mods, 1e+100 mobs mods, ... 19:12 kaeza the more the merrier they say 19:12 kaeza :P 19:18 rdococ I won't :p 19:28 rdococ wait 19:28 rdococ 1+100 zeroes? 19:31 Krock yes 19:31 rdococ laptop dimension with laptop mob that drops laptop bow 19:32 zyabin101 rdococ, more on topic of the laptop dimension: 19:32 zyabin101 Laptops abound! 19:33 zyabin101 You're standing on a touchpad, the trees grow keys, and the mines are full of mesecon ore to wire em up. 19:33 rdococ cyber dimension with software 19:34 rdococ lol 19:34 rdococ literal keys 19:34 Taose Isn't "1e+100" shorthand for 1x10^100? 19:34 zyabin101 You may find laptops, ports, adaptors, peripherals and software disks in the wild :D 19:34 rdococ Taose, correct 19:34 Taose So...101 0s? 19:35 rdococ 100 0s and 1 1 19:35 zyabin101 "1" + "0" * 100 19:35 kaeza !c 1e100 19:35 MinetestBot 1e+100 19:35 MinetestBot 02[git] 04sfan5 -> 03minetest/master-server: Design changes on the server list page 135de6082 https://git.io/vD79E (152017-02-18T19:34:53Z) 19:35 kaeza :( 19:35 Krock lol 19:35 Taose Not helpful bot 19:36 rdococ heh 19:36 kaeza !c str(1e100) 19:36 MinetestBot '1e+100' 19:36 kaeza lol 19:36 Taose lmfao 19:36 kaeza thank you MinetestBot 19:36 Krock !c '1' + '0' * 100 19:36 MinetestBot '10000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000' 19:36 Krock there you go 19:36 rdococ !c '1' + '0' 19:36 MinetestBot '10' 19:36 rdococ oh 19:36 Krock python_skills++ 19:36 rdococ string concatenation and multiplication 19:36 rdococ cool 19:37 rdococ !c 'lol' * 100 19:37 MinetestBot 'lollollollollollollollollollollollollollollollollollollollollollollollollollollollollollollollollollollollollollollollollollollollollollollollollollollollollollollollollollollollollollollollollollollollollollollollollollollollollollollollollollollollollollollollollollollollollollollollollollollollol' 19:37 Krock please check out #minetestbot 19:37 Krock hmm 19:37 rdococ I only did it once :c 19:37 Krock maybe ##minetestbot ? dunno 19:37 Krock there's where you can abuse it 19:39 rdococ hm 19:40 PureTryOut[m] how do I tell cmake to compile the headless server? 19:42 fireglow cmake -DBUILD_SERVER=1 -DBUILD_CLIENT=0 19:42 PureTryOut[m] thanks! 19:44 kaeza !c (lambda f, x: f(f, 0, 1, x))(lambda f, a, b, x: str(a)+", "+f(f, a+b, a, x) if a<=x else "", 1000) 19:44 MinetestBot '0, 1, 1, 2, 3, 5, 8, 13, 21, 34, 55, 89, 144, 233, 377, 610, 987, ' 19:44 kaeza shython 19:44 rdococ what about ##minetestbot? 19:45 kaeza TIL there's a channel for the bot 19:46 rdococ ... 19:48 red-002 pls make it join #minetestbot 19:52 PureTryOut[m] so... compiled Minetest server, now it just complains "Subgame [] could not be found" on startup. there is no config file in `/etc` or `$HOME/.minetest` either 19:52 PureTryOut[m] I do have a subgame, but where can I specify it's directory? 19:56 kaeza PureTryOut[m], with `--gameid minetest` or `gameid = minetest` in `world.mt` 19:57 PureTryOut[m] where does it take the subgame from? 20:00 kaeza ~/.minetest/games, and $path_share/games 20:01 kaeza where $path_share is usually /usr or /usr/local 20:01 kaeza eh /usr/local/share/minetest 20:03 PureTryOut[m] apt (Ubuntu server) had everything in `/usr/share/games/minetest`. I guess that confused me 20:03 PureTryOut[m] `/usr/local/share` does make sense 20:04 kaeza maybe it's in /usr[/local]/share/games, don't know 20:05 kaeza I always use a self-compiled RUN_IN_PLACE build 20:06 PureTryOut[m] putting it in `$HOME/.minetest/games` did work thanks 20:07 fireglow PureTryOut[m]: maybe this will help you https://dpaste.de/P37y 20:07 fireglow oh you got it, ok 20:07 fireglow oh subgame, I'm entirely wrong. Just ignore me 20:08 PureTryOut[m] lol 20:10 PureTryOut[m] can the console (not running in daemon mode) not be used for commands? how would I grant myself rights? 20:13 fireglow not sure about console, but the player from the servers config file gets admin. Setting is name 20:14 fireglow name = XxX_kittenslayer_XxX 20:15 rubenwardy also, see --console 20:16 rubenwardy from there you can run commands from the screen that runs the server 20:16 rubenwardy also see 20:16 rubenwardy !mod irc commands 20:16 MinetestBot rubenwardy: Server login over IRC [irc_commands] by ShadowNinja - https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=5275 20:16 PureTryOut[m] thanks rubenwardy 20:16 PureTryOut[m] the config file is nowhere to be found -.- 20:16 PureTryOut[m] `--console` is not an option btw 20:16 kaeza should be put in ~/.minetest 20:17 PureTryOut[m] it isn't 20:17 kaeza or you can use --config 20:17 PureTryOut[m] not in `/etc` either 20:17 kaeza there's none by default 20:17 PureTryOut[m] I have to make one myself? huh ok 20:18 kaeza don't know if distro packages put .example anywhere 20:18 kaeza try `locate minetest.conf` 20:18 PureTryOut[m] distro packages `/etc/minetest/minetest.conf` it seems 20:19 fireglow this is the official example file, you can start from there: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/minetest/minetest/master/minetest.conf.example 20:20 fireglow for server, you can delete anything above "# Server / Singleplayer 20:22 PureTryOut[m] cool thanks 20:26 rdococ so when a button is pushed, fields[button_name] = true? 20:26 rdococ and fields[textarea_name] = textarea_content? 20:30 rdococ . 20:34 kaeza correct 20:34 Krock can confirm 20:37 redblade7 hi 20:37 redblade7 i have to go soon, but will leave a message here 20:37 redblade7 i just set up a new server, as you know, THE VALLEYS 20:37 redblade7 i just got a complaint from someone having a crash when they click "3 dots in the bottom right" 20:38 redblade7 i dont know what he's talking about. is it a fake mobile client? 20:38 rdococ I'm trying to set a textarea's contents by changing its default 20:39 rdococ it worked with the lua controller version... 20:39 redblade7 unlike my server creative gardens, which has been around for a year, there are very few mods, and no "fancy plants" mods except for farming redo 20:39 redblade7 and there are mobs redo and andinmals 20:39 redblade7 but not much else 20:40 redblade7 so 20:40 redblade7 what are these 3 dots he's talking about? 20:41 IhrFussel redblade7, it's likely a mobile client but not the official Minetest one 20:42 IhrFussel The official one has the 3 dots at the center left 20:42 rdococ yay 20:42 rdococ I have a rudimentary text editor 20:42 rdococ for my laptop node 20:43 rdococ planning to change it to a desktop computer node though 20:48 Baffy[m] does anyone know good graph paper that's thin enough to trace thru 20:48 zyabin101 mbot, what language do you know? :3 20:48 zyabin101 English and...? 20:48 Baffy[m] or apps to plan minetest buildings 20:48 Baffy[m] the paper would be better for my 6yo nephew 20:48 zyabin101 (nah, better move this to ##minetestbot) 20:48 Baffy[m] the app is for me 20:48 agaran zyabin101: english, perl, c, lua, ?;) 20:49 zyabin101 !c 'Hello, '.. 'World!' 20:49 MinetestBot SyntaxError: invalid syntax (, line 1) 20:49 zyabin101 Hope he is up >~< 20:49 zyabin101 !mod moreblocks 20:49 MinetestBot zyabin101: More Blocks [moreblocks] by Calinou - https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=509 20:50 zyabin101 Nice, he's up. 20:51 zyabin101 Does mbot have knowledge? 20:51 * zyabin101 thinks about finally moving that to ##minetestbot 20:52 rdococ hm 20:52 zyabin101 agaran, add Python to that list 20:52 rdococ does anyone have a nodebox model for a desktop computer? 20:53 rdococ no? 20:53 rdococ :c 20:53 zyabin101 []_ ← ASCII sketch for the side 20:53 Baffy[m] i know yall know good graph paper 20:53 agaran zyabin101: I don't know python.. 20:53 QwertyDragon Baffy[m] for "graph paper" I use Xournal program page/paper_style/graph 20:53 zyabin101 [_] ← front 20:53 zyabin101 ^ and top 20:54 Baffy[m] oh cool 20:54 Baffy[m] i was hoping for actual paper for my nephew too 20:54 zyabin101 agaran, Tutorial: 20:54 zyabin101 !c "Hello, World!" 20:54 MinetestBot 'Hello, World!' 20:55 IhrFussel What's the best way to prevent players with older clients from sending messages that appear on the next line? Cause that buggy behavior makes fake messages a possibility...like player abc fakes a message " [many many spaces or tabs or even new line chars][next line] I am stupid" 20:55 agaran zyabin101: I'd rather stay on perl side of life.. seems brighter for me 20:55 agaran IhrFussel: can't you just squash all-spaces to one in each line send by player? 20:55 rdococ xyz is stupid 20:55 rdococ :p 20:55 zyabin101 $x=/[a-n]/g 20:56 zyabin101 Wanted to not put that in a variable, but IRC interprets anything starting with / as slash commands. 20:56 IhrFussel agaran, the problem is I'm not sure if it's really just spaces or if the engine even interprets tabs/newlines and sends those as separate message lines 20:57 agaran I'd squash any whitespace string via regexp to single space? 20:57 agaran or, if me, then any non-ascii char + white char to space 20:57 agaran but that may ruin unicode.. 20:57 red-002 I think mt has a string trim function 20:57 red-002 not sure if it removes double spaces 20:58 Krock it has a trim function that trims the spaces and tabs on each end 20:58 Krock but afaik doesn't touch the code in between 20:58 red-002 return (self:gsub("^%s*(.-)%s*$", "%1")) 20:59 rdococ does someone have a nodebox model of a computer? 20:59 rdococ a desktop computer with a tower 20:59 agaran homedecor has computer?(s) 21:00 VanessaE it does. 21:00 VanessaE though they don't do anything especially useful 21:00 IhrFussel Krock, but it trims ANY whitespace char before/after the string? Tabs and newlines also? 21:01 IhrFussel Cause I'm not sure if newlines count as "whitespace" 21:02 Krock std::isspace 21:02 red-002 this is lua not c++ 21:03 IhrFussel The example in the Minetest dev wiki says it works with new lines string.trim("\n \t\tfoo bar\t ") == "foo bar" 21:04 red-002 string.gsub(test , "%s+", " ") 21:04 red-002 that should work 21:06 red-002 tested it on https://www.lua.org/cgi-bin/demo 21:06 red-002 with local test = ' hi hel fef \r\n hello ' 21:06 red-002 test = string.gsub(test , "%s+", " ") 21:06 red-002 print(test) 21:07 agaran cheapie: would you mind if I connect d/c'ed reactor in your powerplant or want do it yourself? 21:09 Krock IhrFussel, the regular expression also behaves like the C++ function. It trims spaces, tabs and new lines 21:10 IhrFussel Is string.trim() in Minetest the same now or not? 21:11 red-002 I think it only trims spaces , tabs, etc at the start and end 21:12 Krock ^ 21:12 IhrFussel red-002, okay I implemented your gsub function now 21:13 Krock string.trim is defined in builtin/common/misc_helpers.lua with the code that red-002 wrote above 21:13 Krock -> (self:gsub("^%s*(.-)%s*$", "%1")) 21:14 red-002 yeah that looks much too complex for something that only trims spaces 21:14 red-002 use string.gsub(test , "%s+", " ") 21:14 Krock lol, it's shorter than the C++ implementation 21:15 red-002 but it's completely unreadable to a normal human 21:15 Krock your shorter code doesn't do exactly what it should 21:15 red-002 why so? 21:16 red-002 it replaces all double spaces with single spaces 21:16 Krock it leaves one space at the beginning and end if there were more 21:16 Krock " hello world " becomes " hello world " 21:17 red-002 yeah this is only for stopping chat exploits 21:17 IhrFussel message = string.gsub(message , "^%s+", "") << should remove any space at the beginning right? 21:18 Krock yes 21:29 tyty hi 21:30 redblade7 IhrFussel: just got back but have to go again, what do those three dots (in official the minetest client) do? 21:30 mine_test_of_min hi 21:30 PureTryOut[m] so it seems Minetest doesn't run on Wayland (without any X11 whatsoever) :( 21:30 mine_test_of_min i need help 21:31 mine_test_of_min i try to play this subgame : https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=12889 21:32 mine_test_of_min I did a git clone in ~/.minetest/games/ 21:32 IhrFussel redblade7, they expand into a menu when you tap them (open chat form, open inventory, drop item you hold) 21:32 mine_test_of_min I have ~/.minetest/games/minetest-australopithecus/ 21:32 Calinou PureTryOut[m]: we don't have Wayland support, yeah 21:32 Calinou Irrlicht doesn't have support 21:33 PureTryOut[m] too bad :( I wanted to run it on my phone lol, see how it worked 21:33 mine_test_of_min but when I start the subgame I got a lot of error 21:34 redblade7 will have to file a "misplaced dots" one in the github 21:34 redblade7 but have to go to church soon 21:35 PureTryOut[m] "have to"? 21:35 redblade7 yep my turn to read the bible 21:36 IhrFussel redblade7, but the app isn't the official one so you'd have to find out which app the player uses 21:36 PureTryOut[m] your turn? you can't refuse? 21:36 redblade7 he didnt speak english though 21:37 redblade7 PureTryOut[m]: well i told them i'd be there, switched the previosu week with someone else who couldnt make it 21:37 PureTryOut[m] ooh so at least it's your choice then 21:37 PureTryOut[m] you're not forced by relatives 21:38 redblade7 of course i'm 32 21:38 PureTryOut[m] you say that, but I hear weird shit coming from non-christians in the USA 21:38 PureTryOut[m] it's sadly not as easy for everyone to say no 21:38 redblade7 i started practicing my faith again after a few yeras being gone, wanted to get into it again and i have a niece now so 21:38 rdococ I decided that rather than having a laptop I'd make it look like an old monitor 21:40 PureTryOut[m] it might be better if I don't respond to that ;) 21:41 redblade7 no prob PureTryOut[m] i respect your rights to freedom of religion 21:41 redblade7 and separation of church and state 21:41 PureTryOut[m] and I do the same to yours. you at least seem nice about it :D 21:41 redblade7 (though not political correctness i'm against that) 21:42 PureTryOut[m] I'm not even sure what that means 21:42 rdococ crafting recipe hm 21:42 rdococ lua controller, steel ingots and glass? 21:42 redblade7 i gotta go bye 21:42 PureTryOut[m] bye 22:57 MinetestBot 02[git] 04juhdanad -> 03minetest/minetest: Fixes for colorwallmounted and colorfacedir nodes 1300123ee https://git.io/vD7AF (152017-02-18T22:47:24Z) 22:57 MinetestBot 02[git] 04paramat -> 03minetest/minetest: Voxelmanip: Do not emerge or blit to blocks over map gen limit 13111e7e1 https://git.io/vD7Ab (152017-02-18T22:47:24Z) 22:57 MinetestBot 02[git] 04kilbith -> 03minetest/minetest: Multiplayer menu: fix attempt to open nonexistant image 13d0a6cac https://git.io/vD7AN (152017-02-18T22:46:45Z) 22:57 MinetestBot 02[git] 04tenplus1 -> 03minetest/minetest: Statbars.lua: Cache enable_damage setting 13e9cd718 https://git.io/vD7AA (152017-02-18T22:46:06Z) 23:43 rdococ hm