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Happy Thursday, and happy Tim Tam Day! 😃 11:52 Taose Is there any way to crouch or go prone? 11:59 MinetestBot 02[git] 04red-001 -> 03minetest/minetest: Fix a small regression caused by e2ad76f. 132dcbc01 https://git.io/vDyWu (152017-02-16T11:59:19Z) 12:06 * kaeza slaps Jordach 12:07 Jordach MEOW 12:07 kaeza Taose, horribly outdated: https://github.com/kaeza/minetest/tree/crouching :D 12:10 kaeza and doesn't do anything beyond moving the camera :P 12:12 Jordach_ tfw my router is also being stupid 12:13 agaran Jordach_: get smart one? or thats ruled out already? 12:13 Jordach_ >high end asus router 12:15 Taose O.o 12:15 Taose asus 12:15 Taose Well there's your problem 12:15 Taose High End and Asus are words that should never be in the same sentence 12:16 Taose Kaeza, thanks, but if it does nothing but moving the camera it's useless, I have horizontal tunnels I need to get through... 12:16 Jordach_ it's been stable for the last 6 months eating a 175mbps fiber line 12:17 Taose That that Mibs or mbs? 12:17 Taose is that* 12:17 Jordach_ megabit 12:31 agaran Jordach_: overheating problems? 12:31 Jordach_ no idea 12:31 Jordach_ cpu at load is 45c 12:31 Jordach_ gpu caps at 65c due to custom throttling 12:32 Jordach_ mobo at 34c 12:32 Jordach_ PSU might be getting toasty and losing efficiency at load 12:32 Jordach_ causing a voltage spike 12:44 Taose 45 is a touch hi 12:44 Taose gpu is definitely hi 12:44 Taose high* 12:44 Jordach_ Taose, default settings for an AMD RX 480 is 85C 12:44 Taose O.o 12:44 Jordach_ Intel i5 4690k with no overclock 12:44 Jordach_ (max load is 3.8Ghz) 12:45 Calinou Taose: are Netgear routers better? :P 12:45 Taose Probably not I use TPs... 12:48 Taose I hear netgear are good stability wise, but they're terrible security wise 12:48 Taose (back doors galore) 12:55 Taose Curious: Is it possible to make gravity plating in minetest? 12:55 twoelk plating? 12:55 Taose yeah 12:56 Taose (I know, weird concept) 12:56 Taose Lets say I have a box room for a moment. 12:56 Taose Generally I want each wall to be the floor. 12:56 ^7heo Damn all those discussions while I'm at work... 12:56 ^7heo makes me wanna play minetest. 12:56 ^7heo v_v 12:56 agaran Jordach_: I meant router overheating.. 12:57 agaran Jordach_: some cheap routers have bad aging symptoms.. like cheap mobos then they start to crash randomly.. 12:57 ^7heo and to make matters worse, we have a pre-lan party (to test games for a Lan party) tonight, so everybody here is also talking about games... 12:57 Taose XD 12:57 Calinou Taose: no, not possible IIRC 12:57 Taose Why don't you go play then ^7heo 12:57 Calinou changing the gravity vector per-node is not possible right now, I believe 12:57 Taose dammit 12:58 Taose But I can just turn gravity off? 12:58 twoelk that would rather be per sector 12:58 Jordach_ agaran, Z-97K here 12:58 Jordach_ (Asus) 12:58 Taose So I can only turn it off per sector? 12:59 twoelk no 12:59 Taose Well...okay, it's not that big a st... 12:59 twoelk not yet 12:59 Jordach_ aight 12:59 Jordach_ PSU arrived 12:59 twoelk or in forseeable futer 12:59 Jordach_ now for the fun part of redoing all my cabling 12:59 Taose I could have sworn there was a comment that gravity could just be turned off 12:59 * twoelk runs to find a spelling book 12:59 twoelk grant yourself fly 13:00 Taose Oh I got that bit twoelk. 13:00 Calinou Taose: you can't change physics per-node, only per-player 13:00 twoelk that won't change the direction of falling sand though 13:00 * Taose would like to rotate themselves roll and pitch too... 13:01 Taose >.> I'm building a space ship here 13:01 Taose it's not gonna have sand 13:01 Taose But some of the structure is going to be upside down... 13:02 Taose It's why I wanted to turn gravity off completely 13:02 Taose No falling 13:02 twoelk maybe try the spacesim subgame and see how they handle it if at all https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=15081 13:05 Taose Well if anyone figures out how I can rotate my character... I'd appreciate it. 13:05 ^7heo use the mouse. 13:05 * ^7heo hides 13:06 Taose That does left and right, up and down 13:06 Taose and pitch 13:06 Taose but not yaw 13:06 Taose and for some reason there's a limit on how far I can go down as well (it's not 360) 13:07 Taose It's 180° 13:07 Taose (Which does make some sense) 13:07 ^7heo yeah I mean, you can't really do the same moves as the possessed girl in the exorcist. 13:08 ^7heo not IRL tho. 13:08 Taose XD 13:08 Taose She does that in real life 13:08 ^7heo yeah but she is possessed in real life... 13:08 Taose She's a professional contortionist 13:08 Taose XD 13:08 ^7heo so there's that too. 13:08 Taose (we're talking about Samara right?) 13:09 ^7heo (Linda Blair) 13:09 Taose (hasn't even watched it, due to not liking horrors) 13:09 ^7heo (not sure who Samara is) 13:09 Taose Samara would be the character 13:09 ^7heo Ah ok 13:10 ^7heo Apparently the character is called Regan 13:10 ^7heo (not Ronald, Regan) 13:10 * ^7heo hides 13:10 Taose https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Samara&t=canonical&iax=1&ia=images 13:11 Taose Ah different film 13:12 ^7heo Possibly 13:13 ^7heo Also thanks for using duckduckgo. 13:13 ^7heo :) 13:13 Taose I don't use google any more. 13:13 Taose At all 13:13 ^7heo Wiat 13:14 ^7heo s/ia/ai/ 13:14 ^7heo Are you talking about the movie "Rings"!? 13:14 Taose The ring it was. 13:14 ^7heo Damn 13:15 ^7heo Dude, that is absolutely not related. 13:15 Taose I noticed 13:15 ^7heo It's like if I was talking about the movie "The exorcist" and you tell me you've seen "Constantine" 13:15 ^7heo :D 13:15 ^7heo (which is a good movie IMHO but, not related ;) 13:16 Taose XD 13:16 ^7heo And constantine is one of those movies that the critics didn't like 13:16 ^7heo because technically it's pretty bland 13:16 ^7heo but that the audience liked quite a lot 13:17 ^7heo because the work of the actors as well as the uniaueness of the details is making the movie interesting. 13:18 Taose Well, yes 13:18 ^7heo wow 13:18 Taose It wasn't "bland" per se as it didn't do much 13:18 ^7heo uniaueness. 13:18 ^7heo uniqueness, even. 13:19 ^7heo yet 13:19 ^7heo https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/constantine/ 13:19 ^7heo Critics: 46% 13:19 ^7heo Audience: 72% 13:22 Taose One thing about building enclosed large structures 13:22 Taose ...damned black once you've put the final piece in 13:22 * Taose grabs a meselamp 13:22 ^7heo yeah 13:22 ^7heo that's the idea yes. 13:24 ^7heo Yeaaah! Now I know why I like it so much. A review says "the format of Noir thrillers" 13:24 ^7heo It is exactly that. 13:24 ^7heo It's a noir thriller. 13:24 ^7heo and I freaking LOVE those thrillers. 13:26 Taose Yes. A noir thriller with no black people 13:26 ^7heo Untrue. 13:26 * Taose wonders why the hell they call it noir 13:26 ^7heo There's a couple of black people. 13:27 Taose Are you sure they're 'people'? 13:27 ^7heo yes. 13:27 ^7heo In the club of the dude who sees all the things. 13:27 ^7heo who is a black shaman 13:28 ^7heo of sorts 13:29 Persi[m] Is papa midnite in the movie? 13:29 ^7heo yeah that's the dude.. 13:29 ^7heo what a shitty name tho. 13:30 Persi[m] Hellblazer isn't the most tasteful comic book 13:41 Taose Can't believe no one has made a custom character control mod yet... 13:41 Taose Found it 13:42 Taose (Well.. it's called Rotation but it's not really a custom control mechanism) 13:45 ^7heo Taose: can you show the mod? 13:45 ^7heo so I can check what you wanted to do? 13:45 Taose https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=16011#p242077 13:46 Taose Lets imagine a sphere for a moment and it's pointing: north (as much as a sphere can point anywhere) 13:47 Taose Your sphere can turn left and right 13:47 Taose It can look up and down 13:47 Taose So that's x and y 13:47 Taose But there's something between x and y called "degrees" 13:48 Taose That's called "Yaw" (or is it roll) 13:48 Taose So top half is -x, y and bottom half ix x, -y 13:49 Taose http://howthingsfly.si.edu/flight-dynamics/roll-pitch-and-yaw 13:49 Taose https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flight_dynamics 13:49 Taose (it was roll) 13:50 Taose As it is in the game, pitch only goes 180° (so look up, look down) 13:50 Taose I'd like it so if I look down far enough, I return to looking up (360°) 13:51 Taose Likewise I'd like to be able to roll so that the horizon is vertical... a Verizon so to speak 13:51 Taose ... 13:53 Taose Well at least I know how they got their name 13:53 twoelk celeron had a demo of roll effects 13:53 Taose o.o 13:53 twoelk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CeTjR5-IabY 13:54 Taose He did 13:54 Taose I want 13:54 twoelk client side stuff, much problems still 13:54 * Taose looks at celeron55 you hear me. I want that roll! 13:55 twoelk mostly security concerns iirc 13:55 Taose Oh I don't mind about security concerns I'm not planning on using it on a server 13:55 Taose (and even if I were it wouldn't matter) 13:55 Taose (private project mostly) 14:19 Taose ...tnt just isn't cutting it 14:20 * Taose puts in an order for Sfan nukes 14:22 Taose hm 14:22 Taose No explosions 14:26 kaeza Taose, did you try https://github.com/ShadowNinja/nuke ? 14:27 Taose erm 14:27 Taose nope I just grabbed the first one I found 14:27 Taose ...and Sfan5 those bombs need to actually blow up... not be thrown all over the place 14:45 twoelk https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?p=249866#p249866 other TNT 14:52 sfan5 Taose: you mean with particle effects like the stock tnt mod? 14:54 Taose Standard TNT doesn't bounce and fly all over the place... 14:54 Taose It just blows up 14:54 Taose In a nice orderly fashion. 14:58 sfan5 oh 15:01 sfan5 Taose: the physics are kind of exaggerated in the nuke mod however that's the point; if you prefer less change local mult = {x=1.5, y=2.5, z=1.5} in apply_tnt_physics() to smaller values 15:01 octacian wait, Taose: be you learning Lua? 15:02 octacian :P 15:07 Taose No >.< 15:07 Taose I'm in the midst of another project right now 15:10 octacian Taose: oh come on... 15:10 octacian And what project are you working on? 15:12 Taose it's a writing project and I'm doing a concept design in Minetest. 15:12 octacian A writing project? 15:12 Taose I'm using Minetest as a medium or a tool 15:12 Taose So hence all coding has been put on the back burner. 15:13 octacian And concept design in MT? Never heard of somebody doing that before 15:13 octacian What language will it be written in? 15:13 Taose It helps me visualize 15:13 Taose English. 15:13 octacian No... 15:13 octacian Programming language lol 15:13 Taose Not using one. 15:13 Taose It's a writing project 15:13 Taose as in "prose" 15:14 octacian Wait, what... And visualizing that in MT? I thought you were talking like a program 15:14 Taose XD 15:14 Taose Yes visualizing that in MT 15:14 octacian Well, this is my current project: https://cloud.endev.xyz/index.php/s/5RgbuR0UGrxgBZy 15:14 octacian ..and this goes with it too: https://cloud.endev.xyz/index.php/s/BGs61LmwjR7foRG 15:15 Taose Wow that site takes ages to load 15:15 octacian Yes, it does. That one is hosted on my own server behind slow internet. 15:15 octacian Why? Because I typically never use it outside my home network. 15:15 Taose >.< 15:16 octacian So, I take it it still hasn't loaded? 15:16 Taose It did 15:17 Taose And g'luck, you have a lot of competition from Moodle and similar systems. 15:17 octacian Thanks. :D 15:18 octacian Uhm, just looked at Moodle's website (as well as others), and the amount of competition keeps getting lower and lower the more I find out about them... lol 15:22 Taose ...the problem with Other_Worlds... 15:22 Taose is that space is just too darn full 15:25 Taose ...question 15:25 Taose How does one... 15:25 Taose erm 15:25 Taose place something in mid air? 15:26 PureTryOut[m] in-game? or by a mod? 15:26 PureTryOut[m] if in-game, just make a nerdpole or something up to it 15:26 PureTryOut[m] if a mod, `minetest.set_node(position, nodename)` 15:27 Taose in game 15:27 Taose ... 15:27 Taose a nerd pole 15:27 Taose ...I'm not quite sure 15:27 Taose That's going to be a viable solution 15:27 Taose Nearest land is 7000nodes away 15:27 PureTryOut[m] ooh darn 15:27 PureTryOut[m] what kind of world is that? 15:28 mmuller_ It should be fairly easy to make a small mod that stores a block directly under the player. 15:28 mmuller_ (or over, or north of...) 15:30 Taose Space station 15:31 Taose ish 15:37 PureTryOut[m] ooh cool 15:37 PureTryOut[m] so that's one of those dimensions which does work in the good ol' stacked method... 15:37 agaran Taose: without aid of mod. I was building -taaal- dirt towers.. 15:38 Taose Well, other worlds has its issues 15:38 Taose There's not enough room for me to build in the normal space and red space areas 15:38 Taose so I had to go above 15:40 agaran what is red space? 15:41 kaeza
? 15:41 agaran kaeza: are you sure that this is mentioned red space?;) 15:41 agaran not   ? 15:42 kaeza and background-color :P 15:42 Taose XD 15:42 Taose I have no idea 15:43 Taose As far as I can tell, it's normal space with a red hue 15:43 agaran public server? 15:44 Taose You could just download the mod, but no I'm not on a server 15:45 agaran ah I see 16:00 huda im trying to start learning how to mod 16:01 huda but the "http://dev.minetest.net/Intro" tutorial doesnt work and the page is outdated 16:01 huda could someone help me get started? 16:03 kaeza did you read the online book linked there? 16:03 kaeza http://rubenwardy.com/minetest_modding_book/ 16:05 huda no 16:05 huda thanks 16:06 kaeza np 16:09 twoelk Taose: World Edit can place blocks in midair 16:16 twoelk or use the "origin mod" and change blockpos in the init.lua file https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=11156 16:59 * PureTryOut[m] posted a file: Minetest.mkv (2079KB) - https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/LxBceAGoyNjDQOoiqKZtKfDi 16:59 PureTryOut[m] ^ my mod blocks the placement which is fine, but how do I prevent it from appearing there for a split second? 17:05 sfan5 51%[=========> ] 1,05M 93,7KB/s ETA 9s matrix servers sure are fast 17:06 sfan5 PureTryOut[m]: node_placement_prediction = "" in nodedef iirc 17:06 sfan5 grep the docs for that 17:07 PureTryOut[m] [this](https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt#L3715) bit? 17:08 sfan5 yes 17:09 PureTryOut[m] so what should I set it too? from what I see the first option is what is done now, but I don't see any better... 17:11 PureTryOut[m] ooh got it, just cancel prediction all together with "" 17:11 PureTryOut[m] thanks! 18:13 rdococ hm 18:16 rdococ how would you make seethrough portals... any ideas? 18:18 agaran I doubt you can do that 18:18 agaran main problem is you would need to tell engine to teleport viewport 18:19 Taose Easy, make them transparent. 18:20 Taose Or don't give them a texture 18:20 agaran well if you want transparent nodes it is easy 18:20 Taose X) 18:20 agaran but I guessed he wanted to make them pass view from other end of portal 18:21 Taose I suspect it's that too, but it was just too good to pass up the opportunity to give an overly simplistic answer ;) 18:25 Wuzzy Lua question: Is there any easy way to get the flowing direction of a liquid node (ideally as an unit vector). 19:00 twoelk search for nearest source? 19:15 Taose hm... 19:15 Taose world edit is interesting 19:15 * Taose hijacks it to speed up spaceship making 20:08 Taose Goddamn place holders 20:08 Taose How does one delete placeholders in world edit? 20:09 VanessaE select them with a //pos1 and //pos2 and //replace them. 20:11 Taose >.> 20:11 Taose Whose bright idea was it not to include a delete function XD 20:11 Taose /me is doing this all wrong don't mind them 20:11 VanessaE that IS the delete function :P 20:11 VanessaE or you can //set air 20:11 VanessaE but that'll erase everything in the selection area 20:11 Taose I was using suppress 20:11 Taose >.> 20:12 Taose That's what I was trying to do (and failing) 20:12 VanessaE suppress is only meant to hide something for a few minutes at a time so that you can deal with something hidden by it 20:12 Taose (thanks for the assist) 20:27 Taose That moment when your world edit command does most of your work for you but only after ten minutes of apparently not working.... 20:28 Taose (a lotta nodes) 20:31 Taose Oh so much time saved... 20:34 Taose Is there a range finder mod? 20:47 Taose Anything? 20:52 agaran not to my knowledge but 20:52 agaran there was mod used for area markers.. it was offering sort-of range finder functionality 20:55 Taose I'm really after something that double checks where I am to be honest 20:55 Taose I'm not afraid of grabbing coordinates and doing some mathematics in the mean time 20:57 agaran other thing you may like are waypoints in unifieied inventory 21:01 yusf[m]1 Can I damage the SQL database by copying it while the server's running? 21:02 RGB2 Hello everybody. Please help me. I have not transparent black textures in Minetest 0.4.15. How can i solve this bug? 21:02 RGB2 Does anybody know? 21:02 VanessaE no idea 21:02 VanessaE :( 21:04 RGB2 VanessaE: Is anybody from developers in this chat? 21:05 VanessaE there may be some developers here, I'm not sure 21:05 RGB2 ic thanks 21:07 Taose RGB2, doubtful. 21:07 Taose Copying is nonedestructive. 21:08 Taose You might have one or two glitches in game (i.e it may crash it due to some data being locked) 21:08 Taose but there should be no lasting damage. 21:08 Taose sorry wrong person 21:09 Taose I meant yusf[m]1 21:09 Taose Transparent black textures? 21:09 Taose Anyone care to explain what they are? 21:09 Taose RGB2, try reinstalling 21:09 Taose (if you're able to) 21:17 RGB2 Taose: thank you. it doesnt help 21:26 yusf[m]1 Taose: Thanks. Though I'm thinking perhaps some writing procedure from the game could end up being not completed, so that when/if restoring to the copy the problems might arise? 21:43 Taose Do it twice, compare the file sizes? 21:43 Taose To be honest, you should probably shut down the server temporarily and do it that way 21:48 yusf[m]1 Will do. :) 22:38 MinetestBot 02[git] 04paramat -> 03minetest/minetest: Cavegen: Place correct biome surface in tunnel entrances 139aabfd5 https://git.io/vD9IC (152017-02-16T22:25:14Z) 22:38 MinetestBot 02[git] 04paramat -> 03minetest/minetest: Objectpos over limit: Avoid crash caused by sector over limit 133955f51 https://git.io/vD9IW (152017-02-16T22:25:07Z) 22:40 Fixer *,..,* 22:59 yusf[m]1 How do I make cotton item out of the cotton plant? 22:59 yusf[m]1 It just drops seeds 23:00 sofar and string 23:02 sofar minetest.register_alias("farming:string", "farming:cotton") 23:59 yusf[m]1 sofar: must've been unlucky 23:59 yusf[m]1 Thanks