Time  Nick          Message
00:00 kaeza         but no one has developed an Irrlicht renderer yet AFAIK
00:00 rubenwardy    looks potentially bloaty
00:01 rubenwardy    I love sfgui
00:01 rubenwardy    although it's for sfml
00:01 Fixer         o_o
00:02 kaeza         that looks nice
00:03 * Fixer       looks nice
00:03 rubenwardy    it's layout based too
00:04 rubenwardy    https://twitter.com/rubenwardy/status/765590852509065224
00:04 rubenwardy    screenshot of me using it ^
00:04 kaeza         a simple packing/layout manager shouldn't be too hard to implement I guess
00:04 kaeza         or maybe yes
00:04 rubenwardy    my plan would be to split formspec parsing and the resultant elements
00:05 garywhite     What's that rubenwardy?
00:05 rubenwardy    the game?
00:05 garywhite     Yeah
00:05 Fixer         rubenwardy: i was expecting foto of you using it
00:05 garywhite     Doesn't look like MT
00:05 kaeza         nothing too complicated: just horizontal and vertical auto-layout boxes would be nice
00:05 garywhite     But it looks cool
00:06 * kaeza       did some crappy {V,H}Box widgets for a LÖVE library
00:06 rubenwardy    so guiFormspec would use parseFormspec() to build a FormspecWindow object, which is basically drop() + a list of elements. The benefit of this is when we add client side modding, we can reuse the this class without the formspec string
00:07 rubenwardy    then you could add meta elements for layouting
00:07 rubenwardy    well, you could do it with the current code it would just mess up the class even move
00:08 rubenwardy    I'm leaning towards not doing this as reinventing the wheel isn't good
00:08 rubenwardy    it would be much better to use an existing library
00:08 garywhite     Just for the hell of it I searched MT on Amazon
00:08 rubenwardy    garywhite: it's a top down sandbox game with multiple floors
00:08 rubenwardy    guns, doors, and an inventory
00:09 rubenwardy    but no chests
00:09 rubenwardy    oh, and it's multiplayer
00:09 emunand       is there a test anywhere?
00:09 emunand       or rather a download
00:09 rubenwardy    no, there's not that much to see
00:09 rubenwardy    and it's mega WIP
00:10 rubenwardy    It's 9000 lines of C++, which is the biggest I've done so far
00:10 rubenwardy    NBE was 6/7k, iirc
00:10 emunand       the only biggest project i did was a 200 line platformer game
00:11 emunand       written in javascript
00:12 rubenwardy    I made a platformer in JS: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBKO-rd-gkI
00:12 rubenwardy    never polished though
00:13 emunand       looks a lot more different than mine
00:13 emunand       https://github.com/emuNAND/phi-game
00:14 emunand       is it full screen?
00:14 rubenwardy    btw, you can make a branch called gh-pages to make emuNAND.github.io/phi-game work
00:14 rubenwardy    it is if you press f11
00:14 rubenwardy    doesn't use the fullscreen API
00:14 rubenwardy    but takes up the whole page
00:15 emunand       i could do github pages, but i decided not to
00:15 emunand       i just hosted the game in IPFS and ZeroNEt
00:15 whitephoenix  I did ludum dare in pygame a while back
00:15 rubenwardy    the links point to 127.0.0.1, btw
00:16 emunand       rubenwardy: that is how you access ZeroNet and IPFS
00:16 emunand       using the software
00:16 emunand       but if you want to see it in the public gateway
00:16 emunand       gateway.ipfs.io/ipfs/QmYDtgfR8NDVuULY9v3WQwYbDmr38ogbYQKyVgSZYzfgJv/phi/
00:19 emunand       it's based off of n game, if you have heard of that
00:28 kaeza         the problem I have with all these games is that they insist in using the arrow keys to move :/
00:29 emunand       thats what i get for running ipfs
00:29 emunand       a disconnect
00:29 kaeza         I suck at using the right hand for moving and the left hand for actions
00:30 kaeza         or using up for jump
00:30 emunand       kaeza: for what?
00:31 kaeza         <kaeza> the problem I have with all these games is that they insist in using the arrow keys to move :/
00:31 kaeza         my usual configuration is WASD = move, JKLIUO for actions
00:32 kaeza         (assuming QWERTY keyboard, of course)
00:32 emunand       i've seen games that use wasd and ijkl for multiplayer
00:33 emunand       can you rebind the keys?
00:34 kaeza         not sure how to do that on Linux
00:34 kaeza         on Windows I used AutoHotkey
00:35 octacian      emunand: have you got any progress on that trailer?
00:35 emunand       nah, i have given up on it
00:35 emunand       i don't have enough time to make a trailer really
00:36 octacian      OK, I'll make one later :P
01:25 rubenwardy    Got OBS set up, may stream tomorrow
01:25 rubenwardy    depending how revision goes
02:40 whitephoenix  that feeling when your most popular software is a richard stallman minetest mod
02:54 Taose         >.>
02:54 * Taose       breaks out the bottle of cider.
02:55 Taose         I'd brew something else, but really, minetest only has apples
02:55 Taose         >_>
02:55 Taose         ...not sure if you can ferment mushrooms
02:55 whitephoenix  do I need to make another mod?
02:56 whitephoenix  was it you that suggested mushroom tools the other day? I actually made it
02:58 freelikegnu   too bad no bees and honey
02:58 freelikegnu   or potatos
03:02 randomminer   freelikegnu, mobs_redo has bees and honey
03:03 randomminer   though bees seem very rare in comparison to other mobs
03:12 Taose         Well I didn't suggest the mushroom mod, but I'm pretty sure I inspired it... mushroom weapons... >.<
03:13 Taose         There's no tapping trees for sap either...
03:13 Taose         (We can dream)
03:13 randomminer   I'd just like some permanent dirt
03:14 randomminer   can't have dirt paths, unless you separate the dirt from nearby grass blocks
03:14 randomminer   which is kinda weird if you just want a random path into a forest or something
03:21 Taose         That's the thing about dirt, eventually all dirt will turn to grass.
03:22 Taose         This is the same in forests too.
03:22 Taose         Unless lots of people walk the same track repeatedly.
03:22 Taose         Your best bet would be to use sandstone or some other dark block.
03:23 randomminer   I guess sandstone could do, maybe
03:23 Taose         ...speaking of which... I might have an idea for a new biome.
03:23 Taose         Marshes.
03:23 randomminer   isnt there already marshy areas?
03:23 Taose         It shouldn't be that hard to make an individual sink into a block and make it tricky to get out of.
03:23 Taose         I haven't seen any >.>
03:24 Taose         Though...
03:24 randomminer   well they dont do that, but the areas with papyrus and lilies and dirt under water seem marshy to me
03:24 Taose         If I hadn't seen a jungle before in another world, I'd swear they didn't exist.
03:24 randomminer   you'll have to walk a considerable distance to see all biomes
03:24 Taose         >.> well ahead of you.
03:25 randomminer   or get the horse mod ;)
03:25 Taose         I spent four nights at sea
03:25 Taose         (and no, it's not possible to navigate by the stars)
03:25 randomminer   haha nope. minimap is F9, and coords are on F5.
03:26 randomminer   someone made an orienteering mod too, if thats your thing
03:26 Taose         F9 doesn't work so well for larger scales.
03:27 randomminer   did your wheat end up growing?
03:28 Taose         had to start a new world
03:28 Taose         so...once it stopped, it stopped
03:28 Taose         ...I hate steppes..
03:29 randomminer   they are good for building villages on
03:29 Taose         >.>
03:29 Taose         useless for travelling on
03:29 Taose         multiple steep cliffs XD
03:30 randomminer   cliffs? on a steppe?
03:30 randomminer   steppes are relatively flat by definition
03:30 Taose         I may have the wrong definition.
03:30 Taose         Usually large flat grassy plains interspersed with gorges or rising cliffs.
03:31 Taose         As if giant steps in the ground.
03:31 Taose         (i.e singular stair)
03:31 randomminer   im not sure the name is related to stairs
03:32 randomminer   (it's not originally english)
03:32 Taose         Not to my recollection, but that's how I was told to remember it.
03:32 Taose         My school wasn't the best.
03:32 randomminer   but in any case doesnt matter, steppes could have a few here and there anyway
03:33 randomminer   i think i know the biomes you mean though, and yeah, they are a PITA
03:33 randomminer   even with superjumps, they are usually impassable
03:33 Taose         >.<
03:34 Taose         Currently on a land based excursion to explore my locale.
03:34 Taose         gotta stop for the night though
03:34 Taose         because carried torches don't emit any light whatsoever
03:35 randomminer   haha
03:35 randomminer   crafted a bed?
03:35 Taose         ...that implies cotton.
03:35 Taose         and I have yet to find a jungle.
03:35 randomminer   oh yeah, you don't have mobs
03:35 Taose         >.<
03:35 * randomminer shears a sheep
03:35 randomminer   hehe
03:36 Taose         ...
03:36 Taose         that's not cotton
03:36 randomminer   its wool
03:36 randomminer   wool is used in the bed recipe :)
03:36 randomminer   u can (somehow) make wool from cotton in MT though
03:36 Taose         ...
03:36 Taose         da f...
03:36 whitephoenix  when you sheer a sheep and don't get wool you got fleeced
03:36 randomminer   whitephoenix, ba dum tish!
03:37 Taose         Well it's not as if needs to be perfect. I'm happy as is
03:37 Taose         ...assuming I can FIND a jungle -_-
03:38 Taose         So far I have Savannah, Three types of forest, Snow (and a mix of snow and forest), ocean, beach...
03:38 randomminer   heh, my current map has a nearly impenetrable jungle a almost within sight of my base... desert on the other hand is a full days ride in two directions, and only one of them has acacia trees
03:38 Taose         Technically marsh if that's what we're calling it.
03:39 Taose         >.>
03:39 Taose         Who needs desert
03:39 randomminer   sorry not desert, savannah
03:39 Taose         XD
03:40 randomminer   i like the red timber for roofs
03:40 Taose         Ah
03:40 Taose         Mines currently apple tree roof, walls, floor >.>
03:40 Taose         I should probably take a sapling back with me
03:41 randomminer   you might enjoy a mod with a cutting table thing. lets you make angled blocks in addition to the basic "stairs".
03:41 Taose         Definitely
03:41 randomminer   i *think* its in moreblocks
03:42 Taose         >.>
03:42 Taose         hm I think I have that mod downloaded
03:42 Taose         just not activated...
03:43 Taose         I can't recall whether it's moreblocks or the other one I have, but once activated, just does not mesh well with VanessaE's textures
03:43 randomminer   ah
03:43 * randomminer likes it retro
03:43 Taose         X)
03:43 Taose         Ordinarily I would
03:43 Taose         but
03:43 Taose         >.> in the case of MineTest
03:43 * Taose       prefers Terasology's retro graphics)
03:45 * randomminer has a look-see
03:45 randomminer   not to bad
03:46 Taose         The graphics are fine
03:46 Taose         The game took a nosedive.
03:46 Taose         (especially for me)
03:46 Taose         ...
03:46 Taose         I FOUND IT
03:46 Taose         JUNGLE AHOY
03:46 Taose         Tera has a bit a memory leak (java, who would have thought ¬_¬)
03:46 Taose         and it scrambles blocks after a while.
03:47 randomminer   ah ew
03:47 Taose         The java's fine to be honest
03:47 Taose         Not as slow as you'd think
03:48 Taose         Though IntelliJ wants to destroy my system...
03:48 randomminer   how far away from spawn or your base is the jungle?
03:48 Taose         ...
03:48 Taose         uh
03:49 Taose         it's been a seven day journey
03:49 Taose         ...at least
03:49 Taose         By foot
03:49 randomminer   theres gotta be a closer one
03:49 Taose         ...I haven't seen one.
03:49 randomminer   in another direction
03:50 Taose         nope I already followed that rive down from where I spawned
03:50 Taose         (My base is not far from the coast)
03:50 randomminer   none inland then?
03:50 Taose         Not that I've found
03:50 randomminer   weird
03:50 randomminer   but oh well, what can you do
03:51 Taose         I followed the coast round to the next river and followed it up
03:51 Taose         Some jungle at the top, but it's still quite the trek
03:51 Taose         ...(am building a boat to get back though)
03:51 randomminer   other than grab several hundred jungle wood and cotton :D
03:51 Taose         That's what I'm planning on doing.
03:51 Taose         Well
03:52 Taose         I'll grab a sapling and about 10 cotton seeds
03:52 randomminer   ah
03:53 randomminer   i enforce a few rules on myself, so transferring a sapling would be against that. (the game is a bit too easy otherwise)
03:53 Taose         >.>
03:53 Taose         but that's real life
03:54 randomminer   when i do want something easy i just play creative mode instead :D
03:54 Taose         >.>
03:55 Taose         Your definition of difficult, is just long winded XD
03:55 randomminer   haha
03:56 randomminer   so for example I also have the hunger mod, so i cant spend weeks down below (i'll run out of food)
03:56 Taose         That's understandable
03:58 Taose         But taking materials closer is useful.
03:58 Taose         Do plants grow under torch light?
03:58 Taose         (thinking hydroponics here)
03:59 randomminer   yeah, lets say i found an isolated small bunch of jungle trees closer, i'd have no problems expanding that with saplings
03:59 randomminer   Taose, no, but theres a whole controversy surrounding that atm, because a while back they did.
03:59 Taose         (I just found this plant that smells funny in the jungle and the authorities seem to have problems)
03:59 Taose         awww
03:59 randomminer   and you could have underground forests
04:00 Taose         Probably needs to be a mod then. The only "plant" that I know of that grows under candlelight is rhubarb.
04:00 Taose         (It specifically needs low level light and candle light is the best)
04:01 randomminer   I personally think they should err on the realistic side, but have a setting to adjust for those who want the old mechanics
04:01 randomminer   yeah not much grows in low light IRL
04:01 Taose         Speaking of which Mese Lamps...
04:02 Taose         Do plants grow under Mese lamps?
04:03 randomminer   i believe so
04:04 randomminer   (if its already outside, it wont make it grow faster or anything AFAIK)
04:04 Taose         But it should help against moonlight?
04:04 Taose         huh
04:05 Taose         apparently torches do have luminance still
04:05 Taose         (according to the wiki, may need updating)
04:09 randomminer   found an ice/glacier biome yet?
04:10 Taose         erm
04:10 randomminer   completely useless, but look cool :D
04:10 Taose         yes, yes I think I have
04:10 Taose         XD
04:11 randomminer   well, unless you want to build an igloo
04:13 Taose         uh oh
04:13 Taose         looks like my plants have stopped growing
04:14 Taose         Planted these before I left
04:14 Taose         still only growth 1 stage
04:22 Taose         >.>
04:22 * Taose       runs away
05:10 whitephoenix  Why isn't v7 the default worldgen option?
05:14 VanessaE      it is.
05:14 VanessaE      or it was supposed to be
05:15 whitephoenix  it's always been v6 for me
05:23 VanessaE      hm.  I thought the devs meant to change that for 0.4.15
05:26 whitephoenix  I don't know, I just compiled the git version
05:38 octacian      whitephoenix: it is.
07:20 MinetestBot   02[git] 04Wayward1 -> 03minetest/minetest: Add raycast.cpp and tileanimation.cpp to Android.mk 138f22272 https://git.io/vMs8Q (152017-01-05T07:19:54Z)
09:38 JamesTait     Good morning all! Happy Thursday, and happy Bird Day! 🐦
11:57 Megaf         Happy Bird Day JamesTait, good morning and happy new year!
11:59 JamesTait     👋  Happy new year, Megaf!
13:14 IhrFussel     My server just crashed WITHOUT any errors until i check dmesg...it mentions "seg fault at 150 ip [longhex] sp [longhex] error 4 in minetestserver"
13:15 juhdanad      What is your server's version?
13:15 IhrFussel     0.4.15-dev
13:16 IhrFussel     Compiled Jan 3
13:17 IhrFussel     Im guessing its an error with packages? Cause of "ip"
13:17 IhrFussel     Packets*
13:18 sfan5         no
13:18 sfan5         this is what it says
13:18 sfan5         a segfault
13:20 IhrFussel     So its about memory
13:21 IhrFussel     The last logged event was a player timeout (if that helps)
13:24 IhrFussel     sfan5, are the hexcodes important? Should i post the error somewhere plus hex?
13:25 sfan5         run addr2line -pfC -e <path to minetestserver executable> <the long hex value after "ip">
13:30 IhrFussel     sfan5, Server::SendMovePlayer(unsigned short) bei ??:?
13:31 IhrFussel     bei = at
13:31 sfan5         (i'm german too :D)
13:32 IhrFussel     Haha ok
13:33 IhrFussel     So that is the function that caused the crash?
13:35 sfan5         yes
13:35 sfan5         at least it should be
13:40 IhrFussel     I grepped through the src code...but i cant see whether or not the engine calls that function on join/leave
13:42 sfan5         it called in server steps
13:44 IhrFussel     So should i open an issue about it? Or is it likely on my end?
13:45 sfan5         nah these infos do not suffice
13:47 IhrFussel     So nothing the devs could do about it? Maybe i need to enable verbose stream?
13:48 sfan5         probably wouldn't help
13:48 rubenwardy    can you reproduce?
13:48 sfan5         ideally you would run the debug build in a debugger
13:48 rubenwardy    The best thing to do is run in gdb
13:48 rubenwardy    ^^
13:48 sfan5         but that's quite some work for a bug that probably won't happen again
13:49 IhrFussel     Well i dont know...i remember that these "no error in log" crashes happened regularly on the VPS i had before but dmesg was empty (i guess the hoster disabled it for some reason)
13:51 IhrFussel     Well ill just watch dmesg more closely now if it happens again...thanks everybody :)
16:20 rubenwardy    !mod maid
16:20 MinetestBot   rubenwardy: Maidroid [maidroid] by tig-m5 - https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=14808
16:23 silwol        hi all
16:23 silwol        couldn't find any reliable information on this: is there a shortcut/command to destroy an item either in inventory or when thrown away?
16:24 Taose         When thrown away it should disappear on its own...as long as it isn't "placed"
16:24 silwol        you mean after some time?
16:24 Taose         yep
16:25 silwol        ok thx
16:25 Taose         If it's been placed...then it'll stay there.
16:25 sfan5         silwol: you can destroy the currently held item with /pulverize
16:27 silwol        sfan5: that's what I wanted, thx
16:31 * Taose       installs ambient mod
16:32 Taose         *night falls*
16:32 * Taose       flees inside home and locks door.
16:32 Taose         >_> da fuq. Wolves!?
17:03 DuCake        Hello - what is the performance consequence of raising the max_objects_per_block value in minetest.conf ...? I have a server which heavily relies on objects being in the world (tamed mobs on display) and wondered if it would be bad to raise the value?
17:06 sfan5         it can cause worse performance
17:07 sfan5         but that is unlikely to happen unless your routinely have lots of objects per block
17:08 DuCake        OK thanks. In this case, it's rare clumps of world blocks that have high concentrations of mobs. Mostly it's just the "normal" number of objects one would expect on any given server
17:14 rdococ        I'd love an aesthetic version of spheretest (no looping, just a spherical effect).
17:27 apollo11w     What's spheretest?
17:33 Krock         a 3d map cube as a doughnut
17:33 Taose         o.o
17:33 sfan5         sphere*
17:33 Taose         No no no
17:33 Taose         go back
17:34 Taose         I has doughnut?
17:34 Taose         (typically denominated by travelling so far north on the map that you appear at the bottom
17:34 Taose         )
17:34 Taose         In true Jrpg style.
17:34 rdococ        the mathematical term is torus
17:34 Taose         >.>
17:35 rdococ        <.<
17:35 Taose         There's always one
17:35 rdococ        there's always Taose
17:35 Taose         Oh I like
17:35 Taose         Well played sir
17:36 * Taose       mumbles that every time they make an extension they have to re-do the roof every time -_-
17:36 rdococ        wonder if spheretest could be modified to actually display as a torus
17:37 rdococ        also I'd spell it donut, not doughnut :p
17:38 Taose         American
17:38 Taose         ...
17:38 rdococ        nope, I come from mars
17:39 rdococ        hate @m3r1c@n
17:40 Krock         sfan5, it looks like a sphere, yes. But actually it's a donut/doughnut
17:41 Krock         jeija explains it very good in the videos he made
17:41 rdococ        there's no north or south pole :c
17:43 Krock         inb4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7Edq_K72Jc
17:45 rdococ        where does santa live in spheretest?
17:46 Taose         Well there is...but it gets far more complicated.
17:47 Taose         (all planets, even tori have a magnetic field)
17:47 rdococ        well, ik that
17:47 rdococ        wouldn't it be in the middle tho?
17:48 Taose         You'd think so, but no
17:48 rdococ        ?
17:49 rdococ        well, it could be somewhere on the outside surface
17:51 Taose         Think about what causes the earths magnetism.
17:52 rdococ        a liquid core!!
17:52 Taose         According to our infallible scientists.
17:52 Taose         >.>
17:52 Taose         Anyway
17:52 rdococ        <.<
17:52 Taose         Yes
17:52 rdococ        of course it's actually a colony of alien microbes but we can't tell them
17:53 Taose         That generates a field to either extreme though the planet.
17:53 Taose         But it wouldn't be a ball on a torus.
17:53 Taose         It's be a ring.
17:53 rdococ        well, if you use noclip to go to the core in spheretest, it seems to have been hollowed out.
17:53 rdococ        thus, spheretest has no core.
17:53 Taose         X)
17:54 Taose         I'm talking about the definition of the north pole.
17:54 Taose         (the entire "how it got its name")
17:54 rdococ        ik
17:54 Taose         The North pole then, would be the outer equator (looking at a Torus from horizontally
17:55 Taose         and the South pole would be the inner
17:55 rdococ        ok...
17:55 Taose         ...aka. Much easier for santa to deliver presents.
17:56 rdococ        if santa is a huge ring covering the outer equator of the torus.
17:56 apollo11w     Is spheretest a fork of minetest?
17:56 apollo11w     Wait I'm duckduckgoing it
17:57 Taose         +1
17:57 Krock         yes -> https://github.com/Jeija/spheretest/
17:57 * rdococ      really wants spheretest to be perfected
17:57 apollo11w     So like, is the next step a minetest space simulator where you can build satellites that actually orbit?
17:57 Taose         (that's a google +1, so it's pretty worthless, sorry)
17:58 apollo11w     I see some pretty topnotch config settings
17:58 apollo11w     >planet_centrifugal_enable = true
17:58 apollo11w     Do you plan to make a PKGBUILD and put it on the AUR for Arch users?
17:59 apollo11w     You know, unlike minetest 4.15 stable?
17:59 apollo11w     They've still got Minetest 0.4.14 in the Arch repo
18:00 Krock         compiling from Git does it
18:00 sfan5         it's a fork for some experiments
18:00 sfan5         it doesn't need to be in the AUR
18:00 sfan5         for the same reason it also doesn't need an official package
18:01 apollo11w     So how are the experiments?
18:03 sfan5         well as you can see spheretest works
18:04 rdococ        mobius strip test
18:06 rdococ        failing that, klein bottle test
18:07 apollo11w     Lol
18:07 rdococ        spheres are weird
18:07 freelikegnu   I would think successful moebius strip would preclude attempting klien bottle
18:07 apollo11w     If the flat earth society saw this they'd be so triggered
18:08 apollo11w     What would klein bottle be like?
18:08 rdococ        a klein bottle is non-orientable
18:08 freelikegnu   kleim botle is like a moebius toriod
18:08 freelikegnu   klein
18:08 apollo11w     Isn't a klein bottle four dimensional?
18:08 freelikegnu   yeah
18:09 freelikegnu   but even klein bottle hats have been made :D
18:09 rdococ        but 3d projections of klein bottles intersect themselves
18:10 freelikegnu   have you seen http://miegakure.com/ ?
18:10 rdococ        either way, you might be able to become your mirror image.
18:11 rdococ        yeah
18:11 rdococ        but I would prefer a 4D FPS
18:11 rdococ        not shooter per say, but something first person
18:11 freelikegnu   would be wild to visualize 4D MT
18:12 apollo11w     freelikegnu, good luck with 3d textures
18:12 apollo11w     and rdococ
18:12 freelikegnu   hehe we don't even have shadows
18:13 apollo11w     I thought minetest had shadows of some sort
18:13 freelikegnu   normal maps are 3d textures
18:13 rdococ        pretty sure they're just 2d slope information but ok
18:13 apollo11w     What's slope information?
18:14 apollo11w     Sure normal maps are made of voxels
18:14 apollo11w     This could seriously trigger the flat earth society
18:18 rdococ        normal maps are a technique to make textures seem detailed by altering the lighting
20:58 cheapie       https://cheapiesystems.com/media/images/screenshot_20170105_145019.png
20:58 cheapie       ^ A rather complicated way to add two numbers.
21:01 rubenwardy    !seen Zeno`
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21:01 rubenwardy    red-001 ^
21:09 sfan5         cheapie: looks needlessy complicated
21:10 cheapie       Yep, that's exactly the point, more or less.
21:11 sfan5         cheapie: here's my adder http://i.imgur.com/yQD0O4I.png
21:11 cheapie       Mine doesn't have any microcontrollers or LuaC.
21:11 cheapie       LuaCs*
21:11 longerstaff13 I wonder why MT forms worlds in squares.
21:11 cheapie       Mine also has a display.
21:13 emunand       cheapie: what is that contraption?
21:13 emunand       sorry, sfan5
21:13 cheapie       emunand: 3-bit adder with a display.
21:13 emunand       not cheapie
21:14 cheapie       Ah, OK.
21:14 emunand       an adder?
21:16 sfan5         well mine is an 8-bit adder
21:18 emunand       how about doing one without luacontrollers?
21:18 emunand       not all servers allow luacontrollers to be placed
21:24 Krock         for the first bit, you'll need one XOR and one AND, for each further one two XOR, two AND and one OR
21:24 Krock         that's quite much logic
21:40 MinetestBot   02[git] 04LNJ2 -> 03minetest/minetest: lua_api.txt: Add registered_chatcommands to global tables 13545c37f https://git.io/vMZLe (152017-01-05T21:38:43Z)
21:44 freelikegnu   can't wait to see floating point processors in NT
21:44 freelikegnu   can't wait to see floating point processors in MT
21:45 freelikegnu   sry
21:58 sfan5         emunand: it's actually those controllers without lua
21:59 emunand       so just a controller?
21:59 emunand       what mod is it? i don't think it's in mesecons
21:59 MinetestBot   02[git] 04LNJ2 -> 03minetest/minetest: README.txt: Update the License to 2010-2017 13b387f95 https://git.io/vMZqg (152017-01-05T21:58:37Z)
22:38 MinetestBot   02[git] 04sfan5 -> 03minetest/minetestmapper: Fix drawing of transparent nodes without --drawalpha (fixes #41) 13d490cf0 https://git.io/vMZsP (152017-01-05T22:37:21Z)
23:58 kaeza         greetings