Time  Nick          Message
01:29 redblade      hi
01:29 kaeza         o/
01:31 redblade      anyone know where to add "not_in_creative_inventory=1" to in mobs redo animals? because i dont know where
01:31 redblade      someone suggested it on the forum
01:31 redblade      for a long time i've been just commenting out register_egg but then i find out the nets arent working
01:31 redblade      i see no place where "groups" is, and after adding my own it still doesn't work
01:32 redblade      not_in_creative_inventory=1
01:32 redblade      why does _ show up as space on irc?
01:33 redblade      must be a hexchat thing
01:51 redblade      actually it seems youhave to add a fifth fiend with "true" to mobs:register_egg
01:51 redblade      in the api documentation "true" removes it from creative
02:26 redblade      in creative mode though it leaves the animal in inventory when you place it down
02:52 redblade      ugh i just found a multicraft user complaining about ads
02:52 nm0i__        Just one user? Lucky.
02:56 redblade      she can't even teleport
02:56 redblade      no i've had plenty of users like that
02:57 redblade      there was even a user months ago who was playing "minecraft" with banner ads and a "full version"
02:58 redblade      i've been getting a ton of users lately with "NameNNN". someone here on irc told me that it's a popular fake now but i forget the name of it
04:21 minetester    hey, anyone online atm? got a weird error with the moreblocks mod...
04:22 minetester    nodes.lua:14: attempt to call field 'node_sound_metal_defaults' (a nil value) <---- isnt that meant to be part of default?!
04:25 kaeza         minetester, what Minetest version are you using?
04:25 minetester    0.4.14
04:26 minetester    it's weird coz it aliases a bunch of other sounds, gets to that one, and dies
04:26 swift110      hey guys'
04:28 kaeza         minetester, pretty sure metal sounds were added after 0.4.14
04:29 kaeza         you could try to update minetest_game or port the code/files from there
04:30 minetester    oh, fair enough. i figured the mod would be fine with latest stable
04:30 kaeza         otherwise you'll have to wait for 0.4.15 which should be released soon(ish)
04:30 * minetester  heads to the realms of git
04:31 * minetester  might also get lazy and comment the lines
04:31 minetester    :D
04:31 kaeza         that works too :D
04:31 kaeza         here's the patch if interested: https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/commit/fa9a34554b96d2223cce2a9a53991ebe3c5bedc0
04:32 minetester    thanks
04:46 minetester    @kaeza manually merged patch, now working fine, thanks for the help!
04:46 kaeza         minetester, you are quite welcome. I'm doing some tests to see if moreblocks can be patched to not unnecessarily break on older releases
04:47 kaeza         !next
04:47 MinetestBot   Another satisfied customer. Next!
04:54 kaeza         Calinou, https://github.com/minetest-mods/moreblocks/pull/62 ?
04:54 freelikegnu   gah I forgot how to maek textures look pixeley instead of blended :P
04:55 freelikegnu   or blury
04:59 * kaeza       wonders how many mods work on everything from 0.4.3 to 0.4.14
04:59 kaeza         should write some test script sometime :P
05:00 freelikegnu   mmm mod validator...
05:05 freelikegnu   there are so many mod api's now... I guess that's good?
05:05 freelikegnu   sorry I'm being rude... Hello every one :D
05:06 kaeza         greetings
05:06 minetester    hi
05:08 freelikegnu   all the work being done on mob api was inspiring me to return to modeling again
05:10 minetester    I'd like to make a villager/hut/npc mod but, effort and time, and (re)learning lua...
05:10 minetester    village*
05:11 freelikegnu   minetester: I hear that, part of what makes it hard to come back is having to relearn :D
05:11 kaeza         http://xkcd.com/1742/
05:11 minetester    haha
05:12 IhrFussel     Now I almost got everything working EXCEPT u_skins and unified_inventory...i think sfinv blocks them, now i tried to disable sfinv but almost all mods are broken again...so the question is: how can i DISABLE the sfinv inventory and enable unified_inventory without breaking other mods
05:13 freelikegnu   I've been seeing soem pretty jacked up projects in github lately.... stuff that supposedly compiles on linux but fails on all but one distro, that I happen not to have
05:15 freelikegnu   at least its easy to compile minetest
05:15 minetester    IhrFussel, start with unified_inventory and work your way up?
05:15 IhrFussel     unified_inventory isnt the problem...it only happens since sfinv is a default mod
05:15 kaeza         IhrFussel, did you update UI to latest? that was fixed
05:16 minetester    oh
05:16 minetester    haha
05:16 freelikegnu   minetester: would the huts be premade or are you thinking of some parametrically generated dwellings?
05:16 minetester    freelikegnu, probably premade
05:16 freelikegnu   as the dungeons are
05:16 minetester    at least initially
05:17 IhrFussel     Ok so i need to update unified_inventory, alright...i hope u_skins will just work after that mod update
05:18 minetester    freelikegnu, theres a few village mods around already, but they don't really mesh well with my preferences
05:19 freelikegnu   what do you have in mind?
05:21 minetester    Mostly just random huts, watchtowers, and tiny villages. No need for large towns, or anything that flattens large areas of map. A few NPCs at each location, maybe traders eventually. That all being said, i'll probably never get around to it :D
05:21 minetester    the fact that you are the only person in a singleplayer game has always felt weird
05:22 freelikegnu   yeah, even an occasional trader standing by a fire would be nice
05:22 minetester    true
05:23 freelikegnu   or a finding a starving npc in a cave that you can feed and he will follow you to the surface
05:24 minetester    heh, i've always thought it'd be funny down at like -5000 some NPCs just digs through the wall, and keeps going about his business
05:25 minetester    "i'm just here for all your mese, don't mind me" X(
05:25 freelikegnu   I started building goblins because I thought that caves needed some kind of active mobs that are not necessarily aggro
05:26 minetester    nice
05:27 freelikegnu   but above ground needs something too, IMHO
05:29 minetester    freelikegnu, have you tried: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=13589 (villages modpack, Sokomine)
05:35 freelikegnu   it's a great mod.
05:35 freelikegnu   I've played with it before but I dont feel compelled to include it in my game
05:36 minetester    same, a little too "big" for my tastes, and does funky things with the map.
05:36 minetester    looks beautiful though
05:37 freelikegnu   I also find tract housing developments distateful
05:37 garywhite     ?
05:38 TommyTreasure anyone know how to convert a world into a subgame?
05:39 TommyTreasure nevermind, just found a few methods on google. sorry
05:39 freelikegnu   https://www.google.com/search?q=tract+housing&tbm=isch
05:40 minetester    garywhite, we are discussing village mods
05:41 garywhite     oh ok. That'd be cool
05:43 MinetestBot   02[git] 04lhofhansl -> 03minetest/minetest: Fix occlusion culling, again (#4930) 1324edfb7 https://git.io/v1dRG (152016-12-19T05:43:04Z)
05:44 swift110      wats a village mod
05:44 freelikegnu   cliff dwellings would be cool: https://www.google.com/search?q=cliff+dwelling&source=lnms&tbm=isch
05:45 minetester    freelikegnu, sometimes dungeons spawn like that
05:45 freelikegnu   I guess i'm just obsessed with underground
05:45 freelikegnu   minetester: yeah they do, I love that
05:46 minetester    I usually move in when i find one :D
05:46 minetester    anyway I've got to head off
05:46 freelikegnu   farewell
05:46 minetester    good diggings all
05:49 garywhite     night minetester
07:11 cheapie       I was just looking at traffic lights in Minecraft to see what they're like... and looks like they're *really* bad.
07:13 cheapie       A search on YouTube for "minecraft traffic light" pretty much just resulted in a facepalm, headdesk, and "do you even know what the MUTCD _IS_!?" all at once.
07:13 cheapie       So, uh, we have MC "beat" on that one. Yay?
07:19 est31         yeey
07:28 cheapie       I just took a video of a "state-of-the-art" Minetest traffic light, and I'll be uploading that shortly (for some definition of "shortly") if anyone wants to see.
07:43 agaran        cheapie: sounds good :)
07:53 cheapie       agaran: Should be up within the next half hour or so.
08:23 cheapie       agaran: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-tOfCZrrVk
09:47 IhrFussel     Guys is there a way to hide the nametag RUNTIME? I tried player:set_nametag_attributes({text=""}) and it doesnt work
09:57 IhrFussel     Or is "" wrong? Maybe it has to be nil or another value? Or can it not be empty?
10:00 kaeza         maybe "" is "use default"
10:00 kaeza         using a fully transparent color works for me
10:00 kaeza         try player:set_nametag_attributes({text="Adolf", color=0})
10:02 kaeza         (or color=0x00000000 if you want to be clearer)
10:08 IhrFussel     kaeza, you can define the opacity with the color value? o.o
10:09 kaeza         IhrFussel, yes, look for "ColorSpec" in the API
10:12 kaeza         {a=0, r=0, g=0, b=0} may be clearer/easier to deal with
10:13 IhrFussel     kaeza, and can I make it non-transparent again too? Or do I need to define the exact color again?
10:13 kaeza         you just specify a=255 for full opacity
10:13 kaeza         or 0xFFFFFFFF (fully-opaque, pure white)
10:14 IhrFussel     Or 0xFFFFFFFF right?
10:14 IhrFussel     Is that what the standard opacity is like for nametags?
10:15 IhrFussel     Cause of course i want it to look the same when the player disables "hiding"
10:15 kaeza         I guess, but not sure
10:15 kaeza         there's get_nametag_attributes() if you want to save the attrs
10:16 IhrFussel     Hm how do i put that into a table? table[playername] = minetest.get_name_attributes(playername).color?
10:17 kaeza         something like that, yes
10:18 IhrFussel     Ok ill try, thanks
10:25 kaeza         great, OpenGL hangs again
10:26 kaeza         reboot time!
10:34 IhrFussel     Will player:get_nametag_attributes().color work and give me just the color value?
12:21 minetester    random question, is there a (non-console) way of changing dry grass to normal grass?
12:21 minetester    as in the dirt block, not the plant
12:22 Fixer         minetester: redig it?
12:22 AnotherBrick  dig a block with dry grass, place fresh dirt, wait a lil', there will be a normal grass
12:23 minetester    oh, so that doesnt change back to dry?
12:25 minetester    and if so, is there a way of changing green to dry?
12:25 Fixer         minetester: dig green dirt, place it, place dry grass on it
12:25 minetester    ah, cheers
14:54 Yruama_Lairba hello, what is the mods to have hunger mecanism ?
15:07 mootpoint     there is a hud_hunger modpack, thats what we use on our server
16:21 sofar         Greetings from .nl
16:24 agaran        Good afternoon
18:18 Yruama_Lairba somebody know how works npc, animal or mob spawning with mob redo ?
18:20 Yruama_Lairba it seems that no mob are spawning in new map ?
18:20 red-001       is mob_redo enabled?
18:21 red-001       they should always spawn
18:23 Yruama_Lairba yes, mob redo enabled
18:25 Yruama_Lairba in fact i fear bad interaction with an other mod
18:26 red-001       what other mods do you have enabled?
18:31 Yruama_Lairba mobs_animal, mobs_monster,mobs_npc,mobs_redo
18:32 Yruama_Lairba in fact i had enabled many mods on new map when i ecounter the problem for the first time
18:33 Yruama_Lairba so i wanted to do new maps enabling mods once by once
18:34 Yruama_Lairba but even with only this 4 mods i lamost don't have mobs spawing,
18:42 agaran        Yruama_Lairba: not sure how mobs work in singleplayer, thats might be one problem, second, have you check what conditions for spawning are? for example undergroudn they spawn above default stone nodes if there is air node(s) above..
18:50 Yruama_Lairba ok, spawnig frenquency seems very variable
20:35 emunand       is octacian active?
20:35 octacian      yep
20:36 emunand       when will you be able to work on the trailer?
20:36 octacian      I can make time whenever :D
20:36 emunand       alright, i also have a lot of time
20:36 emunand       we could start wednesday
20:36 emunand       i will set up a server for us
20:36 octacian      sure, that'd be great.
20:37 octacian      what time zone are you in?
20:38 emunand       i am in the new york time zone
20:38 garywhite     I can help with the trailer
20:38 octacian      ok, I'm in PST
20:39 emunand       so it's noon right now?
20:39 octacian      yep
20:39 octacian      for garywhite too
20:39 garywhite     It's 12:39 PM for me
20:39 octacian      same
20:41 garywhite     Guys I can find out when this week that 0.4.15 goes public
20:42 emunand       we could release the trailer when 4.15 releases
20:42 octacian      wait, not that one.
20:42 octacian      whoops, wrong channel.
20:49 garywhite     You there octacian?
20:52 garywhite     Hi whitephoenix0
20:53 whitephoenix0 hi
20:53 octacian      garywhite: I'm here now.
20:54 garywhite     octacian: Umm...If you want to have the trailer done for 0.4.15 you'd have to start rn...0.4.15 is scheduled to come out on Wednesday 12/21
20:55 octacian      wuh? who says?
20:55 octacian      paramat?
20:55 garywhite     sfan5
20:55 garywhite     I just checked on dev channel
20:55 octacian      he's the release manager?
20:55 garywhite     There's no set release manager this time IIRC
20:56 octacian      Well, I'll look into it myself as well.
21:02 garywhite     emunand 0.4.15 is supposed to come out wednesday 12/21
21:02 passant       hi there what was the command for saving the mod profiling file?^^
21:05 passant       i mean - as i read, there should be a /profiler command, right? but it isn't available ... o.O
21:06 passant       mod_profiling = true and detailed_profiling = true is aneable for sure
21:06 passant       *enabled
21:06 emunand       garywhite: maybe we can upload after it comes out?
21:06 garywhite     That'd work
21:13 emunand       i think that guy is a robo
21:36 garywhite     Who emunand?
21:39 emunand       garywhite: not_a_robot
21:40 garywhite     probably
21:47 garywhite     octacian, emunand: Do you guys even know what you plan to do for the trailer?
21:48 emunand       garywhite: i am thinking of something like varidie's minecraft trailer
21:49 garywhite     I'm not familiar, could you explain? (I have no access to YouTube rn, so don't send a link)
21:56 emunand       basically a showcase of what the game is, travelling the world and building
21:56 garywhite     I see
21:56 emunand       and then we will add something extra at the end about mods
21:57 emunand       showcase mesecons and pipeworks
21:57 emunand       maybe some others
21:57 emunand       or maybe visiting other servers
21:58 garywhite     Heck,if you wanted to use some more time, you could make "Minetest: The Movie". After all, they are making a M¢ movie
21:59 emunand       Soon(R)
21:59 emunand       In 202020
22:10 octacian      emunand: you know, really. Are we trying to make a 0.4.15 trailer, or just MT in general?
22:10 emunand       MT in general
22:11 octacian      ok good, so there's no rush to get it out before Wednesday.
22:11 emunand       yeah'
22:11 emunand       but it would be nice to have it to announce 4.15
22:12 whitephoenix  Make it a normal trailer than have a short segment on the end with new features maybe?
22:15 emunand       what are some new features?
22:16 whitephoenix  idk I run from git
22:19 emunand       i'll look at the list
22:20 emunand       aka changelog
22:31 garywhite     emunand, octacian: 0.4.15 may be delayed
22:31 octacian      Well, ofc, it's possible.
22:32 garywhite     <ShadowNinja>garywhite: AFAIK there is no release manager ATM.  The release may be delayed.  Can't the trailer just be released immediately after they see the release announcement?
22:47 Yruama_Lairba somebody knows mynetest server ?
23:58 freelikegnu   Calinou: how are you?