Time  Nick           Message
00:06 imr            bump, also downloaded Multicraft and same issue. Guess I'm filing a issue report then...
00:32 OldCoder       Gekki
00:33 OldCoder       nm0i, that is quite a growth strategy! :P
00:33 garywhite      Hi OldCoder
00:34 OldCoder       garywhite, Hello
00:35 OldCoder       o/
00:35 garywhite      o/
00:41 nm0i           OldCoder: no players → no headache
00:46 garywhite      no players = no use for a server
00:58 nm0i           Well I have nive db of username/password pairs.
00:58 nm0i           *nice
01:02 OldCoder       nm0i, that is surely true
01:02 OldCoder       But garywhite is correct as well
01:03 nm0i           sarcasm.jpg.to
01:03 OldCoder       nm0i, perhaps simply fill your world with spiders and vampire hedgehogs
01:03 OldCoder       Hm
01:03 OldCoder       The Blob
01:03 OldCoder       There ought to be a Blob Mob
01:04 nm0i           Cobble and air.
01:15 nm0i           All blobs are hidden in the kernels.
09:28 Amadin         Is there any programmer now?
10:18 Amadin         Is here any programmer now?
10:19 nyuszika7h     just ask your question
10:19 nyuszika7h     someone will answer if they can
10:20 Amadin         my question is here http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=47&t=4668&start=3250#p237881
11:50 stiell         I'm having trouble with the F-Droid build of Minetest, it crashes whenever I try to connect to a server. I'm using 0.4.14.14. Is there anything I can try to make it work?
11:58 sfan5          try building the apk yourself
11:58 sfan5          that's more of a workaround than a solution though
12:55 PureTryOut[m]  hey guys I was wondering, is the creative mode setting per world or per player? it seems to be per world, and it seems that is an engine limitation?
12:56 PureTryOut[m]  (as `world.mt` in the world save folder has a setting `creative_mode`)
13:03 Amaz           PureTryOut[m]: it's a per world setting, but there are mods (I think) which allow it to be per player.
13:03 Amaz           (And it's a Minetest Game limitation rather than an engine limitation)
13:03 PureTryOut[m]  really? I'll have to check that out
13:04 PureTryOut[m]  ooh is it? the default creative mod doesn't seem to do much with it tbh
13:04 PureTryOut[m]  `minetest.setting_getbool("creative_mode")` seems like a world setting, or is that just the "default" setting for if a player joins the first time?
13:05 Amaz           I'm not entirely sure, but I think that unified inventory adds a "creative" privilige, which allows players with it to have infinite items.
13:06 Amaz           I think that whether a world is creative or not is saved in the world.mt file, which affects the creative_mode setting.
13:06 Amaz           I may be making all of this up, I'm not really entirely sure about it :P
13:07 PureTryOut[m]  well that last I know yeah
13:08 PureTryOut[m]  but if I look into the creative mod, it enables an actual creative mode (instant block destroying) by registering a new "hand" item for every player
13:10 PureTryOut[m]  (an seperate inventory per player is not that hard, I'm just talking about the "creative" hand item now)
13:10 PureTryOut[m]  I don't think there is a way to do that per player right?
13:11 Amaz           Ah, no
13:11 Amaz           I don't think that's possible, sadly
13:11 PureTryOut[m]  :/ that's rather limiting tbh
13:12 PureTryOut[m]  I don't mind it being different in minetest_game, but it would be awesome to be able to change that ourselves with mods :p
13:12 Amaz           Yeah
13:14 PureTryOut[m]  should I make a post on the forum about it? or should I make an issue on Github?
13:15 Amaz           Have a look through the issues on github, there might be one there already, but if there isn't one, make it there :)
13:38 MinetestBot    02[git] 04nerzhul -> 03minetest/minetest: Add missing remoteplayer.cpp to Android build 137252c80 https://git.io/vXk43 (152016-10-28T15:37:19+02:00)
13:40 PureTryOut[m]  created an issue for it https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/4688
13:47 PureTryOut[m]  I don't think Minetest supports multiple worlds/dimensions (like the Nether and the End in Minecraft) either right?
13:49 swift110       hmm
13:49 swift110       sup PureTryOut[m]
13:49 PureTryOut[m]  ooh hey swift110
13:53 sfan5          PureTryOut[m]: nope
13:55 sfan5          PureTryOut[m]: however due to the huge vertical size mods often place seperate "dimensions" at high altitudes like +20000
14:04 MinetestBot    02[git] 04sfan5 -> 03minetest/minetest: Add missing keyname_to_keycode function (needed on Android) 136d7b95d https://git.io/vXkEj (152016-10-28T15:50:23+02:00)
14:31 PureTryOut[m]  sfan5: ooh yeah, I saw the nether mod that does that. however, (I'm assuming it wants to be like Minecraft) you can still place water fine. not sure if that's a mod limitation or a limitation of not having dimensions
14:31 sfan5          that's a missing feature
14:31 PureTryOut[m]  also I find how that mod works strange anyway. do I understand it right that it lets the world generate first, and if under -5000 or whatever, it replaces what's generated already with it's own stuff
14:31 PureTryOut[m]  ?
14:32 sfan5          i'm not sure it does that
14:32 sfan5          would be inefficient anyway
14:33 PureTryOut[m]  well it gets called on `minetest.register_on_generated`, and having a quick look in the Minetest docs, I don't see a way to generate your own stuff without replacing it like the nether mod
14:34 sfan5          yeah it definitely generates its own terrain
14:34 PureTryOut[m]  but that gets called after a chunk or so has been generated
14:35 sfan5          well then it probably just discards the results of the usual mapgen
14:36 PureTryOut[m]  so it does generate a normal piece of world first? just discards it and then puts it's own stuff instead?
14:36 sfan5          yes
14:37 PureTryOut[m]  that seems inefficient...
14:38 swift110       how are you PureTryOut[m]
14:39 PureTryOut[m]  I'm good swift110 thanks, how are you? been playing Minetest for long?
14:41 swift110       PureTryOut[m]: I am relatively new but I hope to get more into it
14:41 swift110       PureTryOut[m]: how much do you play it
14:41 PureTryOut[m]  ha, I'm new since 2 days ago ;)
14:41 PureTryOut[m]  however, I pretty much recreated MC's creative inventory. has some bugs left, but in general works nicely
14:42 PureTryOut[m]  creating custom inventories works pretty nifty imo
14:42 PureTryOut[m]  I'm going to have a shot at the survival inventory as well
14:43 swift110       so how much have you played mc
14:43 PureTryOut[m]  tons 0_0
14:43 PureTryOut[m]  my most played game, probably a few thousand hours into it
14:43 PureTryOut[m]  however, not so much recently (1.8 and later)
14:44 swift110       when did you start on it
14:44 swift110       I am asking because I am curious about how you compare the two personally
14:44 PureTryOut[m]  well... right now I can't really compare them tbh. Minetest's gameplay sucks right now
14:45 PureTryOut[m]  Minecraft right now is waaayyy more fun imo, even when having Minetest modded.
14:45 PureTryOut[m]  but, we can fix that ofc ;)
14:45 PureTryOut[m]  I really want a FOSS Minecraft clone without Minecraft's problems (height limit and stuff), I think Minetest can be that
14:46 sfan5          it's a long way
14:46 swift110       ok thats cool you have a positive attitude about it and aren't just doing the bash thing that people do so frequently
14:46 garywhite      FOSS is Free Open Source Software right?
14:46 PureTryOut[m]  yes
14:46 PureTryOut[m]  swift110: well I started with bashing 2 days ago
14:46 Out`Of`Control GPL!
14:46 PureTryOut[m]  however, I decided to just be a man and start "fixing" it myself :p
14:46 sfan5          Out`Of`Control: Stallman!
14:47 garywhite      Yeah, never happen...You forget, MC/Mojang is under the ownership of Microsoft
14:47 PureTryOut[m]  it's quite a bit of work though, not going to be done in a day :p
14:47 swift110       I agree PureTryOut[m]
14:47 Out`Of`Control PureTryOut[m]:  minecraft without minecraft problems is not minecraft
14:47 PureTryOut[m]  ooh I'm not going to copy textures or sounds or anything
14:47 Out`Of`Control sfan5:  yeah
14:48 PureTryOut[m]  well the main problem imo is it not being FOSS and having a low height limit Out`Of`Control
14:48 PureTryOut[m]  those are easily fixable
14:48 PureTryOut[m]  it's just that Minetest's content still lacks
14:48 Out`Of`Control oh i need a mod to limit height on my server
14:48 Out`Of`Control some build 3k 1 node tower
14:48 sfan5          when you start creating content you will find that the script api is lacking too
14:49 sfan5          !server players:most
14:49 MinetestBot    sfan5: @test@   JUST TEST 2 | 23.28.87.79:30002 | Clients: 38/53, 37/40 | Version: 0.4.14-403dada / just_test_tribute | Ping: 140ms
14:49 PureTryOut[m]  https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/PSTWRiLCdlLHZpppgiWSxXFV - Screenshot_2016-10-28_16-48-55.png (175KB)
14:49 sfan5          hm
14:49 PureTryOut[m]  ain't that awesome? ;)
14:49 swift110       well isnt it true that minecraft has had a nice head start with regards to minetest not to mention more financial backing
14:49 sfan5          yes
14:49 sfan5          :D
14:49 PureTryOut[m]  biggest problem with Minetest not being as big right now is being not so user-friendly
14:50 PureTryOut[m]  however that would require menu changes = core stuff
14:50 PureTryOut[m]  someday I will tackle that ;)
14:50 swift110       I am under the impression that while Minetest may be rough around the edges in certain respects that it still has the potential to become pretty much whatever your heart desires
14:50 PureTryOut[m]  indeed
14:50 swift110       So it will take work and time but ultimately will pay off
14:51 PureTryOut[m]  yup I agree
14:51 swift110       I do notice that minecraft is popular with children, they are able to just pick it up and play and therein lies a major part of its appeal
14:52 PureTryOut[m]  yup, it's user-friendly
14:52 PureTryOut[m]  except for the launcher though 0_0
14:52 PureTryOut[m]  but once in-game, everything looks nice, multi-language support, not too many technical texts, etc
14:52 swift110       I intend on playing both and then being in a better position to make comparisons that are fair
14:52 PureTryOut[m]  good idea
14:53 swift110       Granted my attention span sucks so it's hard for me to really get into it
14:53 swift110       I have more experience with playing minetest though because its free but I did have a problem installing the tutorial which I felt should be part of the default download
14:54 swift110       Also you have to search for it and I dislike that intensely
14:54 PureTryOut[m]  having a tutorial included by default would be good yeah
14:56 swift110       PureTryOut[m]: now did you have an issue installing the tutorial?
14:56 PureTryOut[m]  it seems that Minetest *needs* `default:dirt` and `default:water_source`?
14:57 PureTryOut[m]  nvm I'm just dumb
14:58 PureTryOut[m]  aliases in several mods: are they just there for compatibility with old mods?
15:01 sfan5          yes
15:01 PureTryOut[m]  well except for the `mapgen_` ones it seems
15:01 sfan5          yes those a special
15:02 PureTryOut[m]  strange though, except for being set ones, they are not used anymore
15:02 PureTryOut[m]  or does the core look for that?
15:02 PureTryOut[m]  s/ones/once
15:02 sfan5          the mapgen uses them
15:02 sfan5          and the mapgen is normally done in the core
15:03 PureTryOut[m]  yeah... it would be nice to be able to generate pieces of the map from mods as well
15:03 sfan5          currently you can either
15:03 whitephoenix   Is there a way to get and set facedir manually?
15:03 sfan5          1) set the mapgen to "singlenode" to be able to generate everything in the world from mods
15:03 sfan5          ir
15:04 sfan5          *or
15:04 sfan5          2) do it like nether and just overwrite the usual mapgen for the parts you need
15:04 PureTryOut[m]  ooh but you can in fact generate stuff from mods?
15:04 PureTryOut[m]  but then everything has to be generated by mods?
15:04 sfan5          yes
15:04 PureTryOut[m]  hmm :/
15:04 sfan5          the singlenode mapgen will just fill the world with a single node
15:04 sfan5          usually "air"
15:04 PureTryOut[m]  well I'll look into it, thanks
15:05 PureTryOut[m]  I'm wondering if the Lua API is performant enough to generate an entire world
15:05 sfan5          whitephoenix: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt#L2114 and look at param2 probably
15:05 whitephoenix   awesome thanks
15:06 sfan5          PureTryOut[m]: it is https://github.com/minetest-mods/mg
15:06 PureTryOut[m]  ooh thanks! I'll bookmark that one
15:10 sfan5          PureTryOut[m]: also minetest can be built with LuaJIT which makes doing stuff in mods waay faster
15:11 PureTryOut[m]  really?
15:11 sfan5          ye
15:11 PureTryOut[m]  I should setup my AUR build to use that then
15:11 PureTryOut[m]  does it not cause more bugs?
15:11 sfan5          no
15:13 PureTryOut[m]  I get an error "attempt to access external file ... with mod security on" with some mods, what does that mean? the files they try to access are often their own files
15:13 PureTryOut[m]  the `crafting` modpack is a good example of that
15:13 Out`Of`Control i disable security mod, it break many other mods and cause crash with no errors
15:13 Out`Of`Control in log
15:14 PureTryOut[m]  I don't even have a security mod?
15:15 red-001        PureTryOut[m] They might be using unsupported ways to access the files
15:16 sfan5          security is a built-in feature that was recently enabled
15:16 red-001        could you link to an example of a mod that causes that error?
15:16 sfan5          however it seems that it isn't production ready yet
15:17 PureTryOut[m]  red-001: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=5641
15:17 sfan5          !title
15:17 MinetestBot    sfan5: [Mod] Crafting [2.0.1] [crafting] - Minetest Forums
15:17 PureTryOut[m]  doesn't really matter, I'm implementing my own inventory/in-game ui mod anyway, but at least I will know what is wrong if it happens with other mods/my own mods
15:22 swift110       this is awesome
15:22 swift110       has anyone here come from minecraft and has decided they prefer minetest?
15:23 PureTryOut[m]  well the idea of it, yeah definitely. not so much the content/implementation right now though ;)
15:48 swift110       PureTryOut[m]: ok but that is something that can change
15:49 PureTryOut[m]  definitely
16:11 swift110       So lets work on the change then, I am curious as to what the future has in store for us as a result
16:13 PureTryOut[m]  is there any way to listen to key presses? for example I want to do something everytime the player presses the middle mouse button
16:13 Persi[m]       swift110: if it helps, I originally discovered minetest because I couldn't get minecraft to run properly on my girlfriends eee
16:14 Persi[m]       I'd say this counts as preferring
16:14 PureTryOut[m]  your girlfriends eee?
16:16 Persi[m]       Ever heard of the Asus eee? They were insanely popular in 2009
16:17 Persi[m]       It was right before smartphones started becoming useful
16:17 swift110       cool Persi[m]
16:18 swift110       Persi[m]: when was this?
16:18 swift110       Persi[m]: I used to want an eee pc when they first came out
16:18 Persi[m]       Probably 2009
16:20 Persi[m]       Yeah I bought it for her as a gift, one of the nicer models with 10" screen, I just didn't realise how terrible the CPU was before buying it
16:21 Fixer_         yes, linux people where crazy about eee pc
16:22 Persi[m]       Not like the GPU was any better, I think the driver supported gl1.1
16:22 Persi[m]       Just enough for glquake!
16:22 PureTryOut[m]  "Linux people" <-- the best people
16:23 Jacob_Lavoie   I want to install a mod to my server. The server is on Arch Linux, the directory structure is:/srv/minetest/world/players/
16:23 Persi[m]       It was way more than that, it was so successful that every laptop maker had its own clone within months
16:24 Jacob_Lavoie   I am assuming that I place the unzipped mod folder into /world/mods?
16:24 MinetestBot    Krock: Oct-27 20:16 UTC <Hijiri> something being a "clone" doesn't mean it's derived from the same code, just that it's meant to operate in the same way.
16:24 Krock          Hijiri, ACK.
16:40 xordspar0      I am trying to make a mod for the first time. I'm using the Minetest Modding Book. I have the simplest of mods with a print() statement in init.lua. Where do messages get printed out to?
16:52 whitephoenix   xordspar0_, probably the terminal if you run minetest through it
16:52 whitephoenix   I just use minetest.chat_send_all() for debugging stuff
16:58 PureTryOut[m]  ^ chat sends it in-game, `minetest.log` and `print()` show it in the terminal
17:00 sfan5          PureTryOut[m]: you can't listen for keypresses
17:00 sfan5          because mods run server side
17:00 sfan5          and it would be
17:00 sfan5          1) a latency disaster
17:00 sfan5          and 2) uhhh
17:00 sfan5          well just the first
17:01 PureTryOut[m]  darn :/
17:01 PureTryOut[m]  can mods not use custom keybinds at all then?
17:01 PureTryOut[m]  can only the core listen to them?
17:01 PureTryOut[m]  what if you add some kind of new inventory which you want to open by pressing say 'P', that would be impossible?
17:02 sfan5          no custom keybinds
17:02 sfan5          except maybe doing something different if the player sneaks why clicking your node
17:02 sfan5          yes that's impossible
17:02 PureTryOut[m]  :(
17:02 PureTryOut[m]  damn it
17:03 sfan5          the client parses pressed keys according to it's config and processes them
17:03 PureTryOut[m]  feature request it is then
17:03 sfan5          nothing is sent to the server (of raw key stuff)
17:05 sfan5          PureTryOut[m]: also that would not be portable for e.g. android
17:05 PureTryOut[m]  true, although I do not care about Android
17:05 PureTryOut[m]  tbh, if I wanted Android support, I would have to create custom inventories for it anyway
17:05 PureTryOut[m]  a custom keybinding wouldn't be a problem ;)
17:07 sfan5          yeah but it's not whether *you* want to support android
17:07 sfan5          missing android support is a problem when a feature is considered for addition
17:11 PureTryOut[m]  well I see the game does listen to LMB and RMB, but phones don't have that either
17:12 PureTryOut[m]  on Android you could maybe listen for longer presses on specific buttons or something
17:12 PureTryOut[m]  and Android often supports controllers as well, so that could be an option
17:12 sfan5          that's how it works on android basically
17:13 PureTryOut[m]  well then why wouldn't this be possible?
17:13 sfan5          how would custom keys work on android?
17:14 Hijiri         barf buttons onto the screen
17:14 Hijiri         you could have some kind of virtual buttons and the user maps them
17:15 Hijiri         android could have some kind of button menu or something
17:15 swift110       i like the fact that minetest exists for android
17:15 Hijiri         then computer users could map keys to virtual buttons
17:15 swift110       but if i could play it on my iPad that would be awesome...oh if only. I know Apple are retards so it wont happen but a guy can dream
17:16 sfan5          well yes that is possible
17:16 Hijiri         Apple isn't feeling GNU/freedom
17:16 swift110       lol
17:16 PureTryOut[m]  I'm running the mobile version right now, it seems that on the left side of the screen you have some kind of menu with several buttons
17:16 swift110       LOL
17:16 PureTryOut[m]  it is used to open the inventory for example, that could be used for mods as well
17:16 sfan5          yeah then that menu will end up with 200 buttons due to modders
17:16 sfan5          but generally: someone has to write the code for features
17:16 PureTryOut[m]  it wouldn't be that bad ;)
17:16 sfan5          and nobody wants too
17:17 PureTryOut[m]  well that I understand haha
17:17 Hijiri         you could have a pull-out menu with buttons
17:17 Hijiri         I don't want to touch android stuff though
17:17 sfan5          Hijiri: that's how it work on android rn
17:17 sfan5          *works
17:17 Hijiri         oh
17:17 Hijiri         maybe a separate menu for mod buttons so they don't make the ordinary ones unfindable?
17:18 PureTryOut[m]  how do you even place a block on Android? it doesn't seem to work for me...
17:18 PureTryOut[m]  ^ what Hijiri said
17:18 kaeza          that's what the inventory is for
17:18 Hijiri         Are PRs adding controls obligated to do it for both the desktop and mobile versions?
17:18 kaeza          see for example, UI
17:18 kaeza          also, Greetings
17:18 Hijiri         kaeza: I'd like to be able to not fill up the inventory
17:19 Hijiri         oh
17:19 Hijiri         you mean the formspec
17:19 Hijiri         in that case I'd like to be able to move while pressing buttons
17:19 Hijiri         for e.g. spells
17:20 PureTryOut[m]  ooh Minetest does have a 3rd person mode, damn
17:20 Hijiri         though maybe there is some way to force spell selection + casting into one item, which would make it not too bad
17:20 PureTryOut[m]  I had to run the Android version to figure that out lol
17:20 Hijiri         shift + left click to move selection left, shift + right click to move selection right, and click to cast, or something like that
17:20 PureTryOut[m]  ooh... it's F7 on PC
17:20 Hijiri         if my "glue controls stuff onto interact packets" PR gets in, that would work fine
17:21 Hijiri         I think when I was considering it before, I was worried about lag in the controls info
17:21 Hijiri         There is a mod idea that wouldn't really work well without custom keys though
17:21 PureTryOut[m]  Hijiri: ooh you were working on control presses listeners?
17:22 Hijiri         PureTryOut[m]: not really
17:22 Hijiri         I just made a PR making sure that the get_player_controls() stuff, get_look_dir() etc. are updated when the item callbacks are called
17:22 PureTryOut[m]  aah yeah ok
17:22 Hijiri         currently if you hold shift and press very quickly it might not register because control info is sent at intervals, not as asoon as things change
17:23 Hijiri         anyway, the mod idea is some spellcrafting thing, except you do it spontaneously on the spot by reciting symbols
17:23 PureTryOut[m]  aah cool
17:23 Hijiri         I was thinking there would be five symbols (classical chinese elements)
17:24 Hijiri         So I ran into the problem of how do you make it nice to select them
17:24 PureTryOut[m]  I was going for something more simple: if the player is in creative mode and he presses the middle mouse button, put the block that he is looking at in the players inventory (wield it)
17:25 whitephoenix   would be easy if there was a way to get middle mouse
17:26 Hijiri         for the elements thing though I was thinking that a very simple gesture system (up for fire, stay still for dirt, etc.) might be a nice solution that doesn't require a bunch of buttons
17:26 Hijiri         and you click between each symbol
17:26 Hijiri         The problem I see with that is that if you go up too far, you might run out of space to recite fire symbols
17:27 Hijiri         maybe that can be considered a feature
17:27 Hijiri         but it feels asymmetric since you don't have the same issue with left and right
17:27 PureTryOut[m]  whitephoenix: well I would have to listen for it somehow, as I would need to run code only when that button is pressed
17:28 Hijiri         I think I remember some post about doing the middle-click copy thing in the engine
17:28 PureTryOut[m]  hmm... imo all that kind of stuff should be done by mods, if they're going for the full "everything is a mod" thing anyway
17:29 PureTryOut[m]  maybe in the default creative mod sure, but in a mod
17:29 PureTryOut[m]  anyways didn't Minetest support controllers now? how would I test this?
17:29 Hijiri         plug a controller in?
17:29 Hijiri         and maybe set keybinds
17:29 PureTryOut[m]  well I figured that part out ;)
17:29 PureTryOut[m]  nothing happens though
17:30 garywhite      So you could use, say, an Xbox 360 controller with MT?
17:30 PureTryOut[m]  yeah I believe so
17:30 PureTryOut[m]  in my case this would be either a DS4 or DS3 controller, but shouldn't matter. I thought I saw something on it being supported now?
17:30 Amadin         Plaease help, how get time from here http://pastebin.com/1DYV4zBV
17:32 kaeza          Amadin, is that in your mod? if so, you could make the value of `time` into a local, and use that
17:33 kaeza          if not, see if the potions mod or whatever that is registers its definitions in some public table
17:33 Amadin         i meat time in table
17:36 Amadin         now it use time but this is another time from lottpotion.register_potion string (100) but i need time from types (type 1 or type 2)
17:37 Amadin         mod use time here http://pastebin.com/Ww0qwzY7 if this help
17:39 Amadin         is types a table ?
17:40 Amadin         it seems 2 tables in one table
17:44 Amadin         i not programmer but this is last step before mod release
17:52 Hijiri         Amadin: yeah, looks like a table with some tables in it
17:52 Hijiri         if you have some_table = { a, b, c}, that becomes a table where some_table[1] = a. some_table[2] = b, some_table[3] = c
17:52 Hijiri         so there types[1] would give you the first thing, and types[2] would give you the second thing
17:53 Out`Of`Control now my server eats 4.5 gigs ram
17:53 Hijiri         so you might be able to omit the type = 1, type = 2 thing inside the type definitions themselves, since you already have the type number from the key
17:55 Amadin         can you write example for get time from table in my code up
17:55 Amadin         ?
18:06 Amadin         i try minetest.chat_send_all(types[1]) and minetest.chat_send_all(types[time]) it crash because nil value
18:08 Amadin         after using potion
18:08 Hijiri         Amadin: types isn't a global table, it's part of the potion definition
18:08 Amadin         local minetest.chat_send_all(types[1]) ?
18:08 Hijiri         Amadin: no
18:09 Hijiri         if you have a potion definition "def", you can do def.types to get the table that contains the types
18:10 Hijiri         Amadin: can you post the code around where minetest.after is called
18:10 Hijiri         you probably have the potion definition there somewhere
18:10 Amadin         yes
18:13 Amadin         http://pastebin.com/C2MMe6qm 178 line
18:17 Hijiri         Amadin: your end goal is to print out the time?
18:18 Hijiri         oh, type is passed as a parameter
18:18 Hijiri         you probably do type.time
18:18 Hijiri         type[time] is not the same as type.time
18:18 Hijiri         type.time means type["time"]
18:18 Amadin         ok i will try now
18:19 Hijiri         type[time] means get the value of the variable called "time", and use it to index into type
18:19 Hijiri         if time is nil then that will give an error, I think
18:19 Hijiri         though maybe not
18:19 Hijiri         Also "type" is a bad choice for variable name, since it shadows the global function named "type"
18:21 Hijiri         Amadin: brb for 20 mins or so
18:22 Amadin         ok
18:38 Hijiri         Amadin: back
18:40 Hijiri         Amadin: did it work?
18:40 Hijiri         I have to leave in about 30 mins also btw
18:45 Amadin         i replaced time by type.time in minetest.after - still nill value
18:45 xordspar0_     Why is water as thick as molasses in Minetest?
18:45 Amadin         I do not fully understand how it works
18:46 Amadin         i mean mod
18:48 Hijiri         oh, type is the name of the type
18:48 Hijiri         hmm
18:54 Amadin         def.time also get nil
18:55 Hijiri         Amadin: I just noticed, the first parameter of grant is time already
18:56 Hijiri         why not get it from there?
18:57 Amadin         this time get 100 but i need get 10
18:59 Amadin         lottpotion.register_potion have time too it value 100 but i need time value from table
18:59 Hijiri         why do you want a different time than the one being used for the effect?
19:00 Amadin         because i work under potions mod similar minecraft
19:00 Hijiri         I mean in the grant function
19:00 Hijiri         I don't understand why you would want to use a completely different time there
19:01 Amadin         i need different time for Swiftness (speed) potion 1lvl and 2lvl
19:01 Hijiri         the grant function is not the place to do that
19:01 Hijiri         you would do that in the potion definition you register
19:01 whitephoenix   player_physics?
19:02 Amadin         can you tell me where i must do this?
19:02 Hijiri         line 283, I'm guessing
19:02 Hijiri         also it looks like it already has different levels of duration?
19:04 Amadin         line 283 have one time for all speed potions, but i need different time for speed potions and the identical speed
19:04 Hijiri         it has time 10 for type 1 speed potinos and time 100 for type 2 speed potions
19:05 Amadin         yes but in game time is 100 for all speed potions, for 1 and for 2
19:05 Hijiri         wait, is the time key already used by the mod, or is that something you added on?
19:05 Amadin         time from type 1 and 2 not work now
19:06 Hijiri         as in, does the mod already check for the time field
19:06 Amadin         this code i don't edit, only added decoration
19:07 Hijiri         ok, I think I see how this works
19:08 Hijiri         on line 220 change "time" to "sdata.time or time"
19:08 Hijiri         this will make it use the time from the definition if it exists, or else defaults to the one passed into register potion
19:08 Amadin         will try now
19:12 Amadin         ahahah it works!!!!!
19:12 Hijiri         yay
19:12 Amadin         thank you!!!!!!
19:12 Hijiri         the problem is that the original mod was not designed for potions with different times in different types
19:13 Hijiri         any I have to go now, glad it worked
19:13 Amadin         good buy
19:16 Jacob_Lavoie   I am trying to install world edit on my linux minetest server, i can not get it to work. I have added load_mod_<modnamehere> to world.mt, i have the mod's folder in the mod directory located at /minetest/mods
19:20 whitephoenix   load_mod_worldedit or whatever is set to true?
19:21 whitephoenix   check the folder name too, its gotta match the mod name
19:23 kaeza          Jacob_Lavoie, WE is a modpack, that is, a collection of mods. you must enable each mod separately
19:23 Jacob_Lavoie   whitephoenix, yes and what is the mod name? (WorldEdit or worldedit or minetest-worldedit-1.0)?
19:23 whitephoenix   should be worldedit
19:23 whitephoenix   the folder that is
19:23 whitephoenix   probably
19:24 Jacob_Lavoie   so i need to mv the folder (rename) to worldedit?
19:24 whitephoenix   yeah
19:25 Jacob_Lavoie   and instead of load_mod_Minetest-WorldEdit-1.0 = true it would be load_mod_worldedit = true
19:25 whitephoenix   yep
19:36 kaeza          https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=15784
19:41 whitephoenix   notavirus.exe
20:08 PureTryOut[m]  damn it seems that the discussion about passing key presses to mods has been going for a long time
20:11 Hijiri         it's controversial and would probably require significant effort
20:11 Hijiri         so I don't think anyone wants to work on something that has a good chance of not being accepted
20:12 PureTryOut[m]  I guess...
20:12 PureTryOut[m]  a shame...
20:18 PureTryOut[m]  anyways it seems initial gamepad support is indeed in there https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/src/client/joystick_controller.cpp
20:18 PureTryOut[m]  now how to test it...