Time Nick Message 00:45 Megaf [01:45:46] <-* hmmmm has kicked Megaf from #minetest-dev (Megaf) 00:45 Megaf well, it took more than four years for that to happen 00:45 Megaf I think I finally got a dev in bad mood 00:45 thePalindrome tbh you put him in a bad mood 00:46 Megaf yeah yeah, and what about all days and weeks I lost trying to fix my server due to stupid minetest bugs 00:46 Megaf (reported bugs) 00:46 thePalindrome Did you submit patches? 00:46 Megaf what about all the servers that closed down and got lost because of bugs 00:46 Megaf including one of my own 00:47 Megaf where we lost a whole year of work 00:47 Megaf dont that put a person in bad mood? 00:47 Megaf thePalindrome: I can't code, but I do report all bugs I find 00:47 thePalindrome Did you have backups? 00:47 Megaf that's not the point 00:48 Megaf the point is, dev time could be spent on the sqlite engine instead of adding leveldb, redis, posgreesql, null 00:48 thePalindrome I do see the point you're trying to make, but part of the problem lies within sqlite 00:48 Megaf mapgenv5 could be just fixed (as it recentlely was) instead of wasting time in several other mapgens 00:49 Megaf truetype support could be worked on instead of bundling a lot of BITMAP fonts doubling the game size 00:49 thePalindrome the other mapgens are mainly for backwards compatability and making sure it works before pushing it 00:49 Megaf OpenGL render could be improoved instead of wasting time on Dx8 and Dx9 and Software rendering 00:50 * thePalindrome doesn't use dx8 or 9 00:50 Megaf thePalindrome: and asking nicely don't help, reporting bugs sometimes do. Ranting the way I did attract attention, 00:51 Megaf well, I've been doing that for 4,5 years in that channel. I think I just got him in a bad day 00:51 thePalindrome In the same sense shooting people attracts attention to gun control 00:52 thePalindrome It works in one sense, but not in any other 00:52 Megaf thePalindrome: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=author%3AMegaf 00:53 thePalindrome 35 issues, with 30 closed. The only remaining ones don't seem to affect too much, except the linking one 00:54 Megaf just showing that I do try to help... 00:54 Megaf there's 5 PRs too 00:54 Megaf and closed issue != fixed issue 00:57 thePalindrome All of your pull requests seem to have been merged 00:57 thePalindrome so why not try to merge more of your beloved fork? 01:01 thePalindrome You'd probably get some pretty good reactions, if you kept the patches small 01:05 Megaf [01:57:53] so why not try to merge more of your beloved fork? 01:06 Megaf All the work done in my fork was removing code from Minetest, I removed all database support but sqlite and all mapgen support but v6. Also removed some dead code (either legacy code or big parts of commented code) 01:07 Megaf and some of the things that did bring good performance and gameplay improvements are simple configuration changes, that I suggested and got the changes denied 01:07 Megaf thePalindrome: ^ 01:16 Megaf aix: can you confirm this please? https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/1934 01:16 Megaf cheapie: you too if you are there 01:16 Megaf !title 01:16 MinetestBot Megaf: TAB auto complete will no longer work on console. Â· Issue #1934 Â· minetest/minetest Â· GitHub 01:16 * cheapie checks 01:17 Megaf basically read my last comment 01:17 cheapie Doesn't even want to compile for me right now, and I can't really be bothered to fix it. 01:18 Megaf oh dear 01:18 Megaf cheapie: but do you have a running server with anyone online? 01:18 Megaf !server cheapie 01:18 MinetestBot Megaf: No results 01:18 Megaf oh 01:18 Megaf nevermind then 01:24 Megaf well, good night everyone 01:24 * Megaf closes Quassel Client 02:44 DaveyDude is OldCoder here? 03:43 OldCoder Yes 08:16 JamesTait Good morning all! Happy Tuesday and happy Crush a Can Day! ðŸ˜ƒ 09:24 segfault22 dollar collapse scheduled for today, supposedly 09:32 segfault22 who thinks its gonna happen? 10:20 segfault22 nah man teh dollar is forevar 11:07 miner8 hi guys, may I know if the blocks in minetest are pre-generated. That is to say, if I enter a seed number, the blocks will always be generated in the exact position when I generate a new map later using the same seed? 11:08 thePalindrome If you use the same mapgen, yesz 11:08 miner8 All right. Thanks. 11:52 Megaf Hello everyone 11:53 Megaf JamesTait: poor cans man! 11:53 JamesTait Bah, they had it coming. ðŸ˜‰ 13:32 red-001 looks like someone gained access to an old account https://forum.minetest.net/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=18524 13:32 red-001 and used it to spam 13:33 red-001 in an unusually way 13:51 nm0i Hai 14:48 Calinou might be a markov chain bot, red-001, which uses a large delay to convince admins it's not a spammer 14:48 Calinou I've seen a few of those 14:48 Calinou or a manual spammer... those are getting more common 14:48 Hijiri maybe he just cares about the trees 14:59 twoelk seem to have difficulties connecting to some freenode servers, anything happening on freenode? 15:00 jomat twoelk: Hmmâ€¦ which ones? 15:02 twoelk kornbluth was the last one I tried, now I'm on Adams, can't remember the others, was on another machine some hours ago 15:02 * twoelk is travelling from pc to pc 15:10 jomat I don't see kornbluth in the DNS-RR 15:10 jomat neither does 82.96.64.4 pong 15:14 jomat twoelk: but adams works for me 15:17 twoelk obviously, as I'm talking over adams :-D 15:39 agaran Megaf: I wasn't yesterday at all online.. 16:18 MinetestBot 02[git] 04tenplus1 -> 03minetest/minetest_game: Farming: Remove unnecessary overriding of groups 130ad3306 https://git.io/vPeWE (152016-09-27T17:03:50+01:00) 16:37 twoelk ooh? netsplit? 16:47 jomat twoelk: Did you see the network broadcast? :-D 16:47 twoelk hm? 16:47 sfan5 twoelk: -christel- [Global Notice] Hi all, it would appear that Christmas has come early and we're once more receiving a great deal of packets. We'll work with our brilliant sponsors to mitigate as best we can and apologise for the noise and disruption. 16:48 * twoelk wonders what goodies are in them packets 16:49 * twoelk is preparing for a far overland expedition on the justtest server 17:33 shar-archlinux Hello, is there a wiki page about the ports used by Minetest, in case if I use a firewall? 17:53 shar-archlinux Hello, is there a wiki page about the ports used by Minetest, in case if I use a firewall?Â² (it means I didn't find one, and that I would be willing to create one if someone would helped me to correctly do that) 17:53 twoelk 300000 17:53 shar-archlinux * would help me 17:53 twoelk is standard port 17:53 shar-archlinux and to read after me :P 17:53 twoelk oops 30000 17:54 shar-archlinux twoelk: for internal connections too? I had something like 42059, then 43426 17:54 shar-archlinux twoelk: I simply cannot connect to my local session with my actual firewall 17:55 twoelk I always had 30000 except if I changed it in the minetest.conf 17:56 * twoelk is watching the stonemonsters hamering at the door while he waits for the sun to rise 17:56 nore shar-archlinux: the internal connection is a random port if you start singleplayer 17:57 shar-archlinux nore: is there a way to make it through a defined port (such as 30000)? 17:57 shar-archlinux twoelk: thanks :) 17:57 nore shar-archlinux: let me see 17:58 shar-archlinux nore: I could do that, that's kind of you. I just didn't want to search for nothing, then come back 5 minutes later. 17:58 twoelk you should have a config.example file in your minetest/docs directory 17:59 nore current_port = myrand_range(49152, 65535); 17:59 nore looks like you can't configure that if you use simple singleplayer mode 18:01 twoelk doesn't "remote_port = 30000" work? 18:01 twoelk 18:02 twoelk argh, wrong setting 18:02 nore twoelk: I don't think so, looking at the code 18:02 nore but that should be tested anyway 18:03 twoelk port = 30000 18:03 twoelk is for setting port, but might only work if you start as server, can't remember 18:04 nore probably the latter, but it would be a good idea to test anyway 18:04 nore shar-archlinux: ^ btw 18:06 shar-archlinux nore, twoelk: remote_port is already set at 30000 in the GUI, I can't find a current_port option. I'll try to change that. 18:06 twoelk https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=2870 might give more insight 18:07 twoelk http://wiki.minetest.net/Server <- follow links here 18:08 twoelk just add a new line to the config file 18:08 Calinou https://github.com/blog/2260-hacktoberfest-is-back 18:08 Calinou maybe we should add client-side scripting as hacktoberfest issue :P 18:10 shar-archlinux brb, sorry. 18:12 twoelk pff- got kicked from gameserver for inactivity 18:24 shar-archlinux So "port = 30000" didn't work for my local session 18:26 shar-archlinux I'm going to eat, then read a sociology book. Have a nice day, or have a nice evening! 18:45 Calinou shar-archlinux: forcing client port is currently not possible 18:45 Calinou (maybe you can implement that, and submit a pull request, something like client_port) 18:45 Calinou in minetest.conf 18:53 agaran Calinou: logging for 'favourite' servers nickname aside of server itself would be so nice.. 18:55 shar-archlinux Calinou: thanks :) 18:56 shar-archlinux Calinou: unfortunately I can't code for the moment. I may learn C++ later, but I'm actually busy in doing sociology. 18:56 shar-archlinux Calinou: Have a nice day (evening)! 18:56 Calinou bye 19:13 IhrFussel Something is wrong with my server...it takes 3 minutes to login via ssh, 2 minutes to logout from ssh, I cant reach webpages on it but load is 0.01...the mt server also seems to be down in the server list but is listed in ps 19:14 sfan5 try rebooting 19:14 IhrFussel sfan5, reboot everything or mt server? 19:14 sfan5 everything 19:15 IhrFussel Okay i never had to reboot before 19:17 Calinou IhrFussel: check iowait 19:17 Calinou (check IO values of server, however it'll be hard if you have no SSH access) 19:19 IhrFussel I think its weird that it hangs at "authenticatuon succeeded" everything before is fast 19:22 IhrFussel Im running iotop now but sudo takes long too 19:23 IhrFussel Calinou, how do I see IO waits? iotop says 0.00B/s 19:25 Megaf agaran: Ok 19:25 Megaf are you online now? 19:30 IhrFussel Must be sonething I/O related...it doesnt hang when i do uptime for example but autocomplete hangs 19:30 IhrFussel Something* 19:35 IhrFussel Calinou, I killed minetestserver but its still displayed in ps...how?! Well Ill reboot the whole server now 19:39 IhrFussel I rebooted the server now 22:07 DaveyDude hello 22:07 DaveyDude any admins from OldCoder's Lord of the Test online? 22:07 DaveyDude i have a friend who would like to play on it 22:20 IhrFussel agaran, I have to delete the huge mapblocks now...the MT server hangs my entire machine after a while now so that likely means the meta data has reached a very high amount now...Im doing a backup now then I will delete every mapblock with 50,000+ uncompressed meta bytes 22:22 IhrFussel This process WILL remove some city parts and maybe some houses with many items, but the only other option would be to delete everything and start a new world