Time  Nick         Message
00:14 YvesLevier   Tying boost carts and advanced trains mods
02:00 YvesLevier   Je n'arrive toujours pas à détecter un wagon.  J'ai installé le mod monorail.  Il y a bien un cart détector mais il ne s'active pas.  Si quelqu'un connaît un peu les mods de carts, svp me faire signe.  Je tourne en rond depuis 2 jours.
02:18 someone434   hello
02:20 someone434   I'm attempting to update some old simple mods but somewhat of a noob. I am getting a number of errors but right now trying to find out why I get this error "generateImage(): Could not load image" and it creates a dummy image, but the code looks right compared to other examples and the textures exist
02:20 someone434   actually, nevermind, may have just spotted it.
02:22 someone434   next issue, this error "Field "metadata_name": Deprecated; use on_add and metadata callbacks", is there any examples? I can't seem to find any examples.
04:56 MinetestBot  02[git] 04paramat -> 03minetest/minetest_game: Licenses: Change WTFPL to MIT (part 1) 13e9d26e2 https://git.io/vi3le (152016-09-05T05:54:33+01:00)
09:25 Hijiri       shamoanjac: I have an exploit in factions mod to pm
09:29 JTE          the Earth's crust only goes down about 30,000 blocks before turning into magma, but humans have only ever mined about 3,900 blocks deep because it gets exponentially hotter the deeper you go and that's the depth where air conditioning is still an effective counter to the frying pan-hot walls.
09:30 JTE          Minetesters have been braving the elements and digging deeper than any human dares venture in search of rainbows and poptarts. :'3 It's heart touching, nyan.
09:32 CSharpDev    Nice. Been trying to figure out how to jump into Minetest development (to add C# support.)
09:33 JTE          "C# support"? ... As in, Unity-style C# scripts instead of Lua scripts? ... Eesh. .-.;
09:34 CSharpDev    Nah, just direct Mono Embedded Programming support.
09:35 CSharpDev    Whereas you can initialize the JIT engine in Minetest and then load various C# mods which uses the functions within Minetest codes.
09:38 CSharpDev    Mostly to learn more about C++/C# programming in general.
11:57 aix          is there a modern timber mod ?
12:07 Calinou      CSharpDev: will probably never be merged
12:07 CSharpDev    Pretty much expected that
12:08 CSharpDev    but they probably be ok if it remains a branch or if I forked it
12:09 CSharpDev    Since it would add an unneeded dependency of Mono
12:09 Calinou      yes
12:14 Megaf        CSharpDev: C# on MT? No way, sorry
12:15 Megaf        the only thing that the community might accept is python
12:15 Megaf        And it's only a tiny chance of that happening
12:15 * Megaf      wants python on MT instead of Lua
12:16 est31        python is a very bad language
12:16 est31        and has no advantage over lua
12:17 Megaf        hm, why not? why bad?
12:17 est31        it has an abnormal creep for conciseness
12:17 est31        which hurts readability
12:17 Megaf        hm
12:18 est31        lua is nice
12:18 Megaf        The only thing I have to admit is that Lua is very easy and readable
12:18 Megaf        but we are not getting a good performance from it
12:18 est31        c# ... is a very large thing and I'm not really a big fan of the kind of OOP that c# stands for
12:18 Hirato_      you're going to get even worse from python
12:18 CSharpDev    The point is, game emphasize on performance, but it shouldn't matter if people choose to add other languages to bind to Minetest.
12:18 Hirato_      at least lua has luajit to close the performance gap
12:19 * Hirato_    also doens't know how well pypy performs
12:19 est31        idk, multi language support has the danger of fracturing the community
12:20 CSharpDev    Hmm programming community in general is already fractured, so might as well bring in more developers than turning them away, because of language preferences.
12:20 Hirato_      there'sa lot of hostility to Mono and friends though
12:20 Megaf        maybe we should add mono! lol
12:20 CSharpDev    Yep, so do C++
12:21 CSharpDev    People have their own preferred languages.
12:21 Megaf        Now, seriously, the two best contemporary languages IMHO at the moment are Go and maybe Rust
12:21 CSharpDev    Thought Go was pretty bad.
12:21 CSharpDev    Tho I agree on Rust
12:21 Hirato_      I actually like C#
12:22 Megaf        They are like a good mix of Lua and C, in a way that they are not difficult and you can get amazing performance
12:22 CSharpDev    Ditto, I am a die hard who managed to create binding for VLC plugin development directly to C# and so forth.
12:22 CSharpDev    After succeeding that, I decided to try my hand with Minetest.
12:22 Hirato_      just wish Visual Studio wasn't so shit
12:23 CSharpDev    Hmm Monodevelop any different?
12:23 * Hirato_    shrugs
12:23 Hirato_      I do windows/.NET stuff at work
12:23 Hirato_      and a good portion of my day is wasted waiting for visual studio to respond whenever it decides to freeze randomly
12:24 est31        Go is a nice language, Rust is nicer
12:24 est31        C# is okay, but not great
12:24 est31        better than java though
12:24 Hirato_      no argument there, hahaha
12:24 Hirato_      seriously, LINQ is the shit
12:24 CSharpDev    I've been working with LLILC so it basically compile C# to native.
12:24 Megaf        for me the best thing about Go it's the performance, it has very low overhead
12:25 Megaf        Rust for me is just, you know, how a modern language should be
12:25 CSharpDev    Yep
12:25 Megaf        it allows you to make a fast and simple project or develop a how OS using it
12:25 est31        Hirato_, thats why I dont like IDEs xD
12:25 Megaf        h/how/hole
12:25 CSharpDev    Just have to wait a bit longer for people to finish Rust IDE sometime.
12:25 Megaf        s/hole/whole
12:25 Hirato_      est31: don't have a real choice if I'm doing stuff on Windows :P
12:26 est31        yeah...
12:26 Megaf        Hirato_: monodevolp, ajunta
12:26 est31        Hirato_, get a better computer :) tell your employer you are more productive with it (you will)
12:27 Hirato_      my work machine is already a high-rated quad core with 24GB of RAM
12:27 est31        does it have an ssd?
12:27 Hirato_      yeah
12:27 est31        oh, okay.
12:27 Hirato_      I suspect something might be wrong about it, it really doesn't perform super well
12:27 est31        that qualifies for "good computer" yeah
12:27 Megaf        Hirato_: what CPU?
12:27 CSharpDev    Hmm... 128 GB DDR4 Ram, 5820K i7 CPU, 970GTX for my workstation. Only to find out that it's stuck with Nvidia driver which appearently doesn't have Wayland support all. (Nvidia tried to be a special snowflake with their EGLStream.)
12:27 est31        either way, MSVC is 32 bit only, your 24 GB wont help you much xD
12:27 Hirato_      some intel one
12:28 Hirato_      est lies, I come in every morning to find VS using up all 24 GB of it :p
12:28 Hirato_      granted it's that VSHub process of theirs that does profilnig and shit in the background as the program runs
12:28 est31        Hirato_, https://visualstudio.uservoice.com/forums/121579-visual-studio-2015/suggestions/2255687-make-vs-scalable-by-switching-to-64-bit?page=1&per_page=20
12:29 Hirato_      oh god
12:29 est31        but maybe its only part of MSVC which is 32 bit
12:29 Hirato_      fun fact, if I run a program, and its heap is about 40 MB in size, and then try to do a memory snapshot in VS
12:30 Hirato_      i usually get a "VS ram out of memory trying to analyse the dump" error
12:30 CSharpDev    odd
12:30 * Hirato_    shrugs
12:30 Megaf        Microsoft is a piece of shrub man
12:30 Hirato_      what else is new
12:31 CSharpDev    They open source like half of their stuff lately.
12:31 Hirato_      maybe they'll open source Embrace, Extend, Extinguish :3
12:32 Calinou      they talked about open sourcing Windows once
12:32 CSharpDev    Wouldn't work this time if they tried, Rust would just replace C# if they dare.
12:32 Calinou      CSharpDev: Rust is a mess to read.
12:32 CSharpDev    For now
12:32 Calinou      honestly, this makes me not want to ever touch it
12:32 Calinou      they don't feel like improving it, it seems
12:33 CSharpDev    They're still a new language so it'll take a while.
12:33 Hirato_      just galvanize it so it doesn't rust and instead stays iron
12:33 Calinou      well, I can just use Go for now
12:33 CSharpDev    You could write transpiler to make a readable code.
12:33 Calinou      CSharpDev: then people complain "you are fragmenting the community!"
12:33 CSharpDev    It's something I've done a lot.
12:33 Calinou      (see CoffeeScript)
12:34 Hirato_      doesn't that kind of defeat the point of making a language?
12:34 Calinou      might as well transpile Rust to QuakeC :P
12:34 Hirato_      hahaha
12:34 CSharpDev    Ehh, it's harder to fix a compiler than it is to edit a source code.
12:34 Hirato_      Calinou: shall we challenge graphitemaster :D
12:35 Megaf        changing topic, I'm so proud of being on this list http://app-mtmm.rubenwardy.com/verified/
12:35 CSharpDev    Most of the time you don't have the luxury of choosing a compiler.
12:36 Megaf        I will take a look at my mods and remove old repos this week
12:37 Calinou      CSharpDev: I am considering C++14 too
12:38 Calinou      apparently it has some conveniences too, though not as safe as Rust
12:38 Megaf        About Minetest and languages, maybe we should just use this https://cmr.github.io/lanes/
12:38 CSharpDev    I really dislike C++ truthfully.
12:38 Megaf        Calinou: Hirato_ CSharpDev ^
12:38 Megaf        !title
12:38 MinetestBot  Megaf: Lua Lanes - multithreading in Lua
12:38 Megaf        run each mod in it's own thread or multiple threads per mod
12:38 Megaf        or multiple things on the engine in separate threads
12:40 CSharpDev    I'd just use C# async. :)
12:40 Hirato_      been abusing Task.Run a bunch of late
12:40 Calinou      Megaf: each-mod-in-its-own-thread was considered, but eventually ditched
12:40 Megaf        Calinou: why? That would prevent a single mod to getting the whole thing stuck
12:41 Megaf        from getting
12:41 Calinou      ask in #minetest-dev
12:41 Hirato_      probably from the complexity of synchronising it all
12:41 CSharpDev    ^
12:41 Hirato_      it get a lot harder when there's an API and people can do any random thing with it
12:42 Hirato_      it might be possible if the API was designed with threading in mind
12:43 Hirato_      might be too difficult to adapt it now and keep things compatable, especially if you wanted current levels of performance
12:44 est31        Rust is nice to read
12:44 est31        not a mess
12:45 est31        but thats taste probably
12:45 est31        C++ was a nice language back then when it was invented
12:46 est31        but it had mistakes, and you still suffer under them
12:46 CSharpDev    Though it was originally a transpiler
12:46 Hirato_      C++ is nice if we pretend it's mostly C
12:46 CSharpDev    Just wish it stayed that way so we can have at least a stable ABI instead of non-standardized abi
12:46 Calinou      est31: sorry, but a language with !, :, |x| everywhere is not great IMO
12:46 Calinou      I find it even harder to read than C++
12:46 Calinou      especially since Rust programmers seem to like abusing high-end features
12:46 est31        hehe
12:47 est31        I'm not really on that high end feature abuse train
12:47 Calinou      also: C++ can use Qt directly, Rust can't :)
12:47 est31        thats a point
12:47 est31        but only because Qt was written in c++
12:47 Calinou      yes, if Qt was C it would be much easier to bind
12:47 est31        Qt isn't really c++ either way, its more of a dialect of C++
12:48 CSharpDev    Well Rust can, you have to unmanagle the names for C++
12:48 CSharpDev    But that is unstandardized part
12:48 Calinou      est31: yes at this point it's pretty much a framework
12:48 est31        Rust doesnt have C++ interop
12:48 CSharpDev    It have C Interop
12:48 Calinou      but the only good one at doing GUIs really :|
12:48 CSharpDev    So it possible
12:48 CSharpDev    I've been doing the same for C#
12:48 est31        it has C interop yes
12:49 est31        Calinou, agreed.
12:49 est31        gimp toolkit doesnt make nice looking guis
12:49 Calinou      the only real alternative I see is Electron, which is slow for large programs, at least currently
12:49 est31        not without lots of effort
12:49 * Calinou    hopes that it'll be fast in 3-5 years
12:49 est31        I dont think electron will get fast
12:49 Calinou      (Java used to be unbearably slow, now it's just fine...)
12:49 Megaf        13:47 <Calinou> especially since Rust programmers seem to like abusing high-end features
12:49 Megaf        If you don't abuse Rust high end stuff then why use Rust?
12:50 Calinou      to have a better compiler and dependency management than C++?
12:50 est31        thats a really big plus
12:50 Calinou      C++ is horrible at dependency management and building :(
12:50 est31        +1
12:50 Calinou      it's not standardized at all
12:50 Calinou      nobody made the npm of C++ yet
12:50 Hirato_      I like a lot of D's features, if only it was more stable
12:50 Calinou      (there are attempts, but none are really standard)
12:50 Calinou      Hirato_: Nim! :D
12:50 CSharpDev    They kind of do with Pkg-config actually, but even that is a turd
12:51 est31        <insert standards xkcd here>
12:51 est31        cargo "just works" thats really great
12:51 Calinou      yes, even on Windows
12:51 Calinou      Go isn't fully there either, the Go package manager isn't as good as Rust's
12:52 Calinou      build system seems to be less standard
12:52 Hirato_      Calinou: apparently wasn't noteworthy enough for wikipedia, at aa few points
12:52 Hirato_      hahaha
12:52 est31        I just can compare cargo with npm and I think cargo is much better
12:52 Calinou      Hirato_: when you meet a Wikipedia, play the Red Eclipse tune in front of them with a flute
12:52 Calinou      Wikipedian*
12:52 est31        even though something like npm already would help C++ alot
12:52 Hirato_      Calinou: can I just punch them from being twats instead?
12:53 Calinou      sure, you can then add "now THAT is notable!" :P
12:54 Hirato_      I'd swear a bunch of them have a vandetta to delete everything they can
12:54 Hirato_      sad to see they did delete the RE article :<
12:54 CSharpDev    I noticed that too
12:55 CSharpDev    Needless to be said I didn't donate to em afterward
12:55 Hirato_      hah
12:55 est31        I dont donate money to wikipedia
12:55 est31        they'll just waste it
12:56 est31        WMF is bloated
12:56 Hirato_      I don't want to either, mostly because there's too many agendas being fueled
12:56 Hirato_      and Jimmy's completely lost control over all of it
12:56 CSharpDev    Then again, running Wikipedia is a bit expensive if it's the 7th top site of the web.
12:56 est31        (I generally dont donate because I rather help with work, but thats a different story)
12:57 est31        The actual costs for the website and administration are just a fraction of what wikimedia does
12:58 est31        most of it goes to employees who do ... idk what they do
12:58 Calinou      Wikimedia employees use Macs \o/
12:58 Calinou      they generally don't use Linux
12:58 Hirato_      rip
12:59 est31        interesting didnt know that
13:00 CSharpDev    You know, Linux kind of suck if the only choice for GUI are either GTK (We'll break the API every 6 months, GG) or QT (C++ or binding from hell)
13:00 Hirato_      6 months? are you certain they're that patient? :P
13:00 CSharpDev    Probably not
13:00 CSharpDev    x_x
13:00 Hirato_      hahaha
13:01 est31        lool
13:01 Hirato_      Qt seems rather buggy at the moment too :<
13:01 CSharpDev    Currently I'm working on new GUI framework
13:01 Hirato_      plasmashell is leaking memory here like no tomorrow :<
13:01 CSharpDev    But waiting on Nvidia to fix their bloodly driver
13:01 CSharpDev    so I could use EGL on Wayland
13:01 est31        CSharpDev, I hope this flatpak / snappy / appimage stuff will improve the situation a bit
13:01 CSharpDev    (I got binding for it on C# to work properly.)
13:01 Hirato_      CSharpDev: does wayland not work inside your X session?
13:02 CSharpDev    Nope, it's EGL issue
13:02 CSharpDev    Not wayland itself perse
13:02 CSharpDev    per se*
13:02 CSharpDev    Nvidia implemented their own EGLStream instead of GBMStream
13:02 est31        CSharpDev, idk whether you tried yet but wayland wont work with minetest either
13:02 CSharpDev    WHile every other driver use GBM
13:03 est31        because of missing features
13:04 CSharpDev    How come they don't use SDL2?
13:04 est31        minetest uses irrlicht
13:04 est31        no sdl
13:04 CSharpDev    yea
13:05 CSharpDev    Btw game would work on Wayland, because of XWayland
13:05 Megaf        it doesnt
13:05 Megaf        no mouse lock
13:06 CSharpDev    oh right
13:06 est31        ^
13:06 est31        thats what I meant with missing features
13:06 CSharpDev    Ah kk
13:06 est31        XWayland may get pointer warp emulation in the future
13:06 est31        but its not there yet, so doesnt work
13:06 Hirato_      even SDL won't solve that ;p
13:06 Calinou      gotta like how Fedora claims Wayland to mostly be ready when it lacks such basic features :P
13:06 est31        yup :)
13:07 CSharpDev    Lol, pretty much
13:07 Hirato_      the cancers known as Pulseaudio and Systemd did basically come from that camp
13:07 Hirato_      :<
13:07 CSharpDev    I really want to avoid having to work with X11
13:07 CSharpDev    x_x
13:07 Hirato_      third disaster will be the charm :<
13:07 est31        but I've heard prophecies that they won't continue with it till the end
13:08 * Megaf      wonders if GNUStep/WindowMaker actually depend on X11
13:08 Calinou      PulseAudio makes working with fancy audio setups much easier
13:08 est31        but ship with x11 like with fedora 24
13:08 Calinou      (USB, SPDIF, 5.1, 7.1, whatever)
13:08 Hirato_      Calinou: but first is has to actually work
13:08 est31        Hirato_, SDL will solve it because it can abstract over it
13:08 est31        Hirato_, theoretically the mouse lock bug can be solved at an irrlicht level, with minimal help from minetest
13:09 Hirato_      Calinou: and it shouldn't have taken 5+ years to achieve even basic working status
13:09 est31        Hirato_, if irrlicht is ported to wayland, one could use its pointer locking apis
13:09 Calinou      Hirato_: software needs beta testers in order to evolve and be good :P
13:09 Hirato_      est31: but do said apis even exist yet?
13:09 est31        Yeah I agree with Calinou about pulseaudio
13:09 Calinou      that's why lots of Linux tech is pushed on the desktop early
13:09 Hirato_      Calinou: I don't appreciate being a beta tester on stable release distros :p
13:10 Calinou      truth is, very few users use beta releases of distros :(
13:10 est31        Hirato_, they do exist in mutter (the GTK compositor) since march i think , and in weston since a few weeks
13:13 Hirato_      and what about real compositors like kwin, and e18? :3c
13:14 est31        dunno whether kwin actually works on wayland
13:15 Hirato_      it does
13:15 Calinou      Hirato_: I reported a KDE bug, it got fixed in about 1.5 week
13:15 Calinou      (additional system tray icons going away after a reboot or re-login)
13:15 Hirato_      haha
13:15 Calinou      there was a workaround, not obvious for casual users though
13:15 Calinou      this is the kind of problems that hinder desktop Linux usage :(
13:17 Megaf        Calinou: KDE here always set the sound volume to max a milisecond before playing any sound
13:17 Megaf        so at any notification my ears bleed
13:17 Hirato_      can't say I've ever had that problem
13:17 Megaf        That's the only thing preventing me from using KDE on this laptop
13:17 Calinou      I don't have that issue here, although it frequently doesn't "catch" my USB audio headset, have to unplug it then plug it back
13:17 Calinou      Megaf: did you report it?
13:18 Hirato_      Calinou: I thought you said pulseaudio made it betterer :3c
13:18 Calinou      Hirato_: bugs do happen
13:18 Calinou      ALSA is barely ever touched for years, so obviously it's very stable
13:18 Calinou      but also very limited
13:18 Megaf        Calinou: not sure if I should, might be very old bug long fixed, I'm on Debian after all with ancient software
13:18 Calinou      it's the C of audio systems :)
13:18 est31        lol yeah
13:18 Calinou      Megaf: yeah don't bother on old software
13:19 Hirato_      does that make OSS assembler? :p
13:21 Megaf        you mean Assembly
13:21 Megaf        assembler is the GCC for Assembly
13:21 est31        there exists a language called macro assembler
13:21 Hirato_      does it just use extra large font?
13:23 Megaf        lol
13:32 * Jordach    nearly bricked android by using OTA updates
13:32 Hirato_      could've been anbrick :3
13:32 Jordach      nah fam, there's an experimental build of TWRP for my phone, but it's not officially supported yet
13:32 Jordach      TWRP picked up the OTA and just got on with it like nothing happened
13:33 CSharpDev    So we all can agree on same thing that GTK needed to be replaced by something better for C Language.
13:34 * Jordach    coughs
13:34 Jordach      QT5
13:34 CSharpDev    That's C++
13:34 Megaf        Jordach: I got mine stuck in a boot loop with OTA once, had to hard reset it to fix
13:35 Hirato_      ChanServ: it's called EFL
13:35 Hirato_      er.. CSharpDev
13:36 Hirato_      if C is a strict requirement
13:38 Hirato_      alternatively you can do backto motif, or maybe even... Xaw3D :D
13:38 CSharpDev    Lol
13:39 Hirato_      alternatively, you can use OpenGL I guess https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFUlAQZB9Ng :P
13:39 CSharpDev    Or create a new display server, true
13:41 Hirato_      let's not go crazy, SDL would be hte abgstraction layer :P
14:10 Vault        does anyone know whats with the 3 letter names?
14:20 CSharpDev    Hmm at least I figured out most of the code in Minetest. X_X Anyhow, I'll turn in for tonight. Good night everyone.
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16:36 LionLAD      Well its back to school tomorrow... Yay :(
16:37 aix          yay
16:37 LionLAD      What grade ya going into air
16:37 LionLAD      Aic
16:37 sfan5        is summer break longer in the us?
16:37 LionLAD      Aix
16:37 LionLAD      I'm Canadian
16:38 LionLAD      I start Sept 6
16:38 sfan5        well i've had like three weeks of school already
16:38 LionLAD      I believe some states start school August
16:38 sfan5        (germany)
16:38 LionLAD      Oh never knew you were German haha  cool
16:38 aix          sfan5: im sorry what
16:39 aix          you're in school?
16:39 sfan5        still
16:39 sfan5        yes
16:39 LionLAD      Ya I guess out school systems are diffrent
16:39 aix          ...
16:39 LionLAD      Sfan5 I think we all figured you were older and out of school
16:39 aix          yeah
16:39 sfan5        aix: not much longer though
16:39 aix          i had you for 20-25
16:39 sfan5        that's too high :p
16:39 aix          ...
16:39 aix          18?
16:39 LionLAD      Really how old are you XD
16:40 aix          at first i thought around 30
16:40 sfan5        18 is closer
16:40 aix          16
16:40 LionLAD      So 17
16:40 aix          16 probably
16:40 sfan5        i'm not going to say yes or no
16:40 LionLAD      If I tell will you Tell XD
16:40 sfan5        no
16:40 sfan5        i'm not playing games :d
16:40 sfan5        s/d/D/
16:40 LionLAD      Fine haha
16:41 LionLAD      Well I won't say my age but I'll say I'm a senior this year so I'm sure that says ot haha
16:41 aix          it's wierd how people think age is sensitive information
16:41 sfan5        ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
16:41 LionLAD      I'm 17 rn
16:42 LionLAD      Going into grade 12 tomorrow
16:42 aix          woah sensitive information
16:42 LionLAD      Its weird cause like I dont have that feeling of I rule this school I just feel like I'm a grade 9 or somthing
16:43 LionLAD      I don't feel like a senior gaha
16:43 LionLAD      Haha
16:43 sfan5        maybe you should go back to grade 9 then
16:43 sfan5        have fun a little longer
16:44 LionLAD      Ha no
16:45 LionLAD      Soooo
16:45 LionLAD      I'm actuly really excited cause I'm study to be an automotive tech
16:47 LionLAD      I'm good at it so my auto teacher agreed to let me help on his tvr 1600
16:47 sfan5        whats that
16:48 LionLAD      Its a old British car but it's beautiful
16:48 LionLAD      It weighs like the same as a smart car
16:48 BrandonReese If it's an old british car then there is probably plenty to fix on it :)
16:48 LionLAD      And has a 6.7 v8 and its just nice
16:49 LionLAD      BrandonReese: he's been fixing it for sometime now and it's in really good condition I'm helping him with the engine swap and the final electrical
16:50 BrandonReese that sounds like fun. I almost went into auto tech but decided to go the computer programming route. If things go sound with this that's probably what I'll go back to
16:51 BrandonReese go sound = go south
16:54 LionLAD      Mhmm
16:55 Krock        LionLAD, what's your name? where does your house live? what's your phone number? what's your favourite color?
16:55 Krock        [start of sensitive information]
17:05 LionLAD      Krock: My name Bo Phillips, my house lives in Brazil,  my number 1-800-226-4563, and my favorite colour is cyan
17:05 LionLAD      The cyan parts the only true thing if you didn't realise
17:06 Krock        are you aware that the channel is logged? :/ I feel kinda guilty now
17:06 LionLAD      That stuff ain't true
17:08 LionLAD      Just the cyan part
17:08 Krock        why are cyan parts the only true thing?
17:08 LionLAD      Cause cyans my favorite colour
17:09 Krock        oh k
17:09 LionLAD      My real names jacov
17:09 aix          woah
17:09 LionLAD      Jacob but I'd never say my last name
17:09 Krock        don't even wanna know srsly
17:09 aix          jacob spires imo
17:09 LionLAD      IDC realy
17:09 Krock        jacob bocaj
17:10 LionLAD      Id never say my last name
17:10 LionLAD      But my first name IDC like how many Jacobs are in North America it's not like I'm really giving any dangerous personal information
17:11 Krock        topic = random.next(0, 10000)
17:12 LionLAD      So how bout that weather
17:12 aix          lol
17:14 LionLAD      I had like 400 ping there for a sec lol on free node
17:16 Krock        that's impossible as you would get disconnected with > 250s
17:29 Calinou      <aix> it's wierd how people think age is sensitive information
17:29 Calinou      I used to be 25 on the Internet, and 12 in real life :D
17:29 aix          it is
17:29 aix          me too
17:29 aix          i still am
17:29 aix          wait what
17:29 aix          you too?
17:29 aix          why is everyone so young
17:30 Calinou      I'm 18 now
17:32 Krock        Calinou, lol. I think the internet makes everybody feel a bit younger
17:33 Krock        so 12 on the internet and 25 IRL :P
17:34 LionLAD      Krock: I had 368ms
17:34 LionLAD      Oh 358 that time
17:38 LionLAD      Oh over 500ms that time
17:38 LionLAD      Guess ms arnt seconds though
18:26 BrandonReese LionLad, your last name start with a C?
18:26 LionLAD      No
18:26 LionLAD      Why ya ask
18:26 BrandonReese Ok. Just testing my Internet stalking skills based on the info you've given.
18:28 Krock        BrandonReese, your last name starts with 'R'
18:28 BrandonReese No
18:29 BrandonReese :)
18:30 Krock        stalking isn't easy :(
18:30 BrandonReese Nope, not as easy as I thought it would be
18:31 LionLAD      Lol
18:31 LionLAD      What information did you base me off of Brandon
18:31 LionLAD      You wanna know what I hate about windows and its the only thing
18:31 BrandonReese First name, city your IP address geolocates to and that you're going to tech school.
18:31 LionLAD      God damn Anti-Malware service executable
18:32 LionLAD      I use a VPN
18:32 Krock        BrandonReese, I'd like to know his cat's name
18:32 sfan5        LionLAD: are you sure?
18:32 BrandonReese You VPN to a home cable service?
18:33 sfan5        .home.cgocable.net doesn't look like a vpn
18:33 LionLAD      Haha guess not
18:33 LionLAD      Must have turned it off
18:33 BrandonReese I think I found him a he's just covering :)
18:33 LionLAD      Where am I then?
18:33 sfan5        it doesn't geolocate to any city btw
18:34 sfan5        oh wait it odes
18:34 sfan5        does*
18:34 LionLAD      Wait your real names kitten sfan XD
18:34 BrandonReese Ha******, Ontario, Canada
18:34 LionLAD      Okay
18:35 LionLAD      Don't say aloud jeez
18:35 BrandonReese I starred it out
18:35 LionLAD      Ya but still
18:35 Krock        hehe, add this to a trivia question and let the people guess it :P
18:35 sfan5        ha?
18:35 sfan5        this other service says Ancaster
18:36 Krock        (answer_service1 + answer_service2) / 2 will give you an accurate result
18:39 lion         Lol there
18:39 lion         And my Irc blew and now I have to use Lion till LionLAD leaves
18:39 sfan5        now that's a vpn
18:39 lion         Haha ya
18:39 lion         Now I'm in Paris France
18:39 lion         I usually keep it on but I forgot to woops lol
18:40 BrandonReese iplocation.net says California, but that still works.
18:40 lion         Oh there we go
18:42 Krock        you could do /ns ghost <nick> <pass> on a registered account
18:43 agaran       good evening
18:43 LionLAD      I keep registering LionLAD
18:43 LionLAD      But then it like un registers
18:44 LionLAD      There I did it again
18:44 LionLAD      Maybe cause I never verified it XD
18:45 agaran       it might be;)
18:45 LionLAD      Well I jsut did haha
18:45 LionLAD      Hey agar an
18:46 LionLAD      Did you wanna run my ip and track down where I live too
18:46 agaran       no.. I can just read backlog;)
18:46 LionLAD      Lol
18:47 LionLAD      Brandon didn't need to say it aloud for homicidle people to know though XD
18:48 BrandonReese Sorry. Rest assured that the majority of people in the world are not homicidal maniacs
18:48 LionLAD      Lol
18:48 LionLAD      Sure
20:16 Hi_to_all    doing homework
20:22 Hi_to_all    hi
20:23 Hi_to_all    its quiet
20:26 Hi_to_all    hey aix
20:27 agaran       it is quite quiet here today indeed
20:27 Hi_to_all    yes it is
20:32 Hi_to_all    hey its monday everyones busy with homework like me
20:56 Megaf        agaran: can you whois me and tell me if it shows lots of channels Im on please?
20:56 Megaf        agaran: and also, whats pid linux?
20:57 Hi_to_all    helllo
20:57 agaran       shows only #minetest on this net, and pid is process identifier,
20:57 Megaf        Hi Hi_to_all
20:57 Megaf        agaran, I know what pid is
20:57 Hi_to_all    :P
20:57 Megaf        agaran: oh, I mean, pld Linux, sorry
20:57 Megaf        21:56 * [Whois] agaran is agaran!~agaran@pld-linux/agaran (Unknown)
20:58 agaran       Megaf: well, some linux distribution but I am not active there anymore.. day has too few hours
20:58 Hi_to_all    morgan.freenode.net [Chicago, IL, USA] agaran is this your server?
20:59 agaran       well this is one I am connected to..
20:59 Megaf        Hi_to_all: freenode has lots of servers around the globe
20:59 Hi_to_all    ok :P
21:00 Hi_to_all    My homework is inedependence XD
21:01 Hi_to_all    5th grade history XD
21:02 Hi_to_all    minetest dev is very quiet
21:03 Hi_to_all    brb
22:39 LionLAD      May I have a cloak?
22:40 Megaf        LionLAD: heya
22:41 Megaf        LionLAD: /msg nickserv help register
22:43 LionLAD      Megaf: you know me
22:52 Megaf        !server Megaf
22:52 MinetestBot  Megaf: Megaf Server v4.0 | mt.megaf.info:30003 | Clients: 2/20, 0/4 | Version: 0.4.14-Megaf / MegafXploreNext | Ping: 7ms
22:52 Megaf        hey Taoki
22:53 Taoki        hi
22:53 Megaf        brb
22:57 CSharpDev    So you can only make mod purely in LUA, but not in C or C++?
22:57 LionLAD      I mod in c++
22:58 CSharpDev    Got any example to illustrate how it's done?
22:59 LionLAD      You can look at other mods as a start
23:03 CSharpDev    Been looking at some of them so far, all of them I've seen are purely in LUA.
23:03 LionLAD      Lua is the file it reads
23:04 LionLAD      Init.lua
23:04 LionLAD      Which can be coded in with c c++
23:05 LionLAD      C++ is a versatile code so it translates
23:05 CSharpDev    That clarify what I'm seeing.
23:08 CSharpDev    Because I was looking into Minetest and it had me thinking if it's remotely possible to load C/C++ binaries as mod, because all of the codes in it is tightly integrated for Lua.
23:41 Megaf        g'night folks
23:41 LionLAD      Night Megaf
23:42 CSharpDev    gnight