Time Nick Message 00:05 shangul r computer mods real or they r just decors and paintings of computer? 00:05 KaadmY shangul: some are real i think 00:07 shangul they simulate a small computer? 00:11 shangul or they execuse cmds on my real world computer? 00:50 shangul how do i make turtle(robot) working? 00:54 KaadmY or they execuse cmds on my real world computer? 00:55 KaadmY some mods do that, but usually they're very special and only whitelist a few commands only 00:55 KaadmY and the mods that do have file access require extra privs and whitelisting on the server, if it's multiplayer 00:55 shangul hmm...thanks for answering that 00:55 KaadmY most mods just run custom languages or sandboxed lua 00:56 KaadmY and i remember there already being a turtle mod, maybe not though 00:57 shangul how do i use turtle? 00:57 KaadmY shangul: no idea 00:58 shangul !server 00:58 MinetestBot shangul: LinuxGaming2.com | LinuxGaming2.com | Clients: 0/15, 0/4 | Version: 0.4.14-dev / minetest | Ping: 99ms 00:58 shangul why 0.4.14? 00:59 shangul any server for older vers? 00:59 shangul 0.4.13 01:00 shangul 0.4.9 01:09 KaadmY 0.4.14 will still allow 0.4.13 clients iirc 01:09 KaadmY !server justtest 01:09 MinetestBot KaadmY: No results 01:09 KaadmY !server xanadu 01:09 MinetestBot KaadmY: Xanadu | 98.166.90.48 | Clients: 17/40, 21/32 | Version: 0.4.14-dev / minetest | Ping: 106ms 01:14 DoyleChris could somebody take a look at this error 01:14 DoyleChris http://pastebin.com/9JuN0wMq 01:14 DoyleChris The world was running fine yestarday but my laptop shutdown and i restarted it now i get this error. 01:19 shangul doylichris, disable all mods then test 01:19 shangul doblye 01:19 shangul dolye 01:19 shangul doyle 01:19 shangul doylechris 01:20 DoyleChris what will that do to things i have installed example i have mesecons already put on my map and pipes 01:21 shangul i have no idea at all 01:21 DoyleChris well it started 01:28 DoyleChris but everything was without a texture then added technic back in but the machines are a wierd texture. 01:29 DoyleChris I reinstalled the mods and ran them but the world still errors out. 01:30 DoyleChris is there a way to see what i had for inventory to recreate the world. 01:32 shangul there is a problem with one of mods 01:33 DoyleChris well i created a new map with just mesecons and pipeworks and it worked ok. 01:33 DoyleChris so somewhere the map or info for the map is courpt 01:34 KaadmY if you can risk losing any items in pipes and any other entities, you can do /clearobjects 01:34 KaadmY (backup world first) 01:35 shangul note: to backup ur worlds(maps) u can copy them from minetest_dir/worlds/ 01:35 DoyleChris without pipeworks and mesecons enabled 01:40 DoyleChris seems like that world is toast 01:40 DoyleChris start another. 05:16 MinetestBot 02[git] 04est31 -> 03minetest/minetest: Fix -Wterminate warning on GCC 6 13483cca7 https://git.io/vKOqv (152016-07-08T07:08:33+02:00) 05:30 hicoleri is it possible to add a black background behind the chat log? 05:32 est31 hicoleri, you use version 0.4.14 of minetest? 05:32 hicoleri yes 05:32 est31 you want the background to be darker? 05:32 hicoleri est31 05:32 hicoleri yes 05:33 est31 because right now its already pretty dark 05:35 MinetestBot 02[git] 04est31 -> 03minetest/minetest: Fix -Wterminate warnings in rollback.cpp as well 139db78dc https://git.io/vKOqh (152016-07-08T07:27:49+02:00) 05:35 est31 hicoleri, you can adjust the alpha setting with console_alpha 05:36 est31 also see the console_color setting 05:37 hicoleri est31:I want this to be darker, the chatlog. The console is already dark: http://en.zimagez.com/zimage/nk8.php 05:39 est31 hicoleri, that's not possible right now 05:39 hicoleri ok 09:05 JamesTait Good morning all! Happy Friday, and happy Blueberry Day! 😃 16:47 MinetestBot 02[git] 04est31 -> 03minetest/minetest: Ubuntu build HOWTO: Suggest to install git instead of git-core 1327905f1 https://git.io/vK3CZ (152016-07-08T17:07:31+02:00) 17:39 Biomass2857 hi 17:44 jackthegreat hell all 17:45 Biomass2857 hi 17:45 jackthegreat *hello all 17:45 Biomass2857 how is it goin' 17:45 jackthegreat i am trying to create a server 17:45 jackthegreat need help 17:45 Biomass2857 are you experienced with c++? 17:46 jackthegreat nope 17:46 Biomass2857 well 17:46 Biomass2857 gonna lookup someone 17:46 jackthegreat is programming required? 17:46 Biomass2857 nono 17:46 Biomass2857 my problem is ... 17:46 Biomass2857 another one 17:46 jackthegreat ? 17:47 Biomass2857 well, programming isn't required to setup a server at all 17:48 jackthegreat ok i already portforwarded and did the stuff in minetest.conf (like settings) 17:48 Krock Ermahgerd! What's going on here? 17:48 jackthegreat im trying to create a server 17:48 Krock jackthegreat, server_announce = 1 set in the config? 17:48 jackthegreat nope its set to true 17:48 Krock doesn't matter 17:48 Krock 1 is true, and that's true. 17:48 jackthegreat kk 17:49 Krock did you forward the UDP port or just TCP? 17:49 Biomass2857 you have to set it to !false 17:49 jackthegreat what should i put for "server_dedicated =" 17:49 jackthegreat i did udp only 17:49 Krock Biomass2857, the settings parser can't read that expresion 17:49 Biomass2857 but it would be funny 17:50 swift110 hey all 17:50 jackthegreat do i need both udp and tcp? 17:50 Krock jackthegreat, that setting is not contained in the last Minetest version I got, so .. no idea 17:50 jackthegreat hmm ok 17:50 jackthegreat how about the udp and tcp 17:50 jackthegreat do i need to forward to both? 17:50 Biomass2857 krock, you are surely experienced with programming in c++, don't you? 17:50 Krock oh well, you can set it to true 17:51 jackthegreat kk 17:51 Krock jackthegreat, no only UDP is required 17:51 jackthegreat k already did that 17:51 Krock Biomass2857, I can write basic C++ programs but I'm still learning 17:52 Krock jackthegreat, do you have a client outside your network to test the connection? 17:52 jackthegreat what else should i do other than forwarding and setting up the settings 17:52 Biomass2857 ok, thanks anyway 17:52 jackthegreat yes 17:52 jackthegreat did not work 17:52 Krock starting the actual minetset-server wouldn't be too bad 17:52 jackthegreat i could connect to my server on a seperate window though 17:53 jackthegreat using 127.0.0.1. as port 17:53 Krock the server_address setting must not be set, if you did so 17:53 Krock 127.0.0.1 as PORT? 17:53 Krock please no! A port is a number between 1 and 65535 17:53 jackthegreat shoot 17:54 jackthegreat wait no 17:54 jackthegreat i meant address 17:54 Krock ah good 17:54 jackthegreat 30000 was port 17:54 Krock get your network internal IP, which isn't 127.0.0.1 17:54 jackthegreat ohhhh wait do you have this line "address =" 17:54 Krock and connect to that address 17:54 jackthegreat hmm ok 17:54 Krock "address =" is to save the last connected server for clients 17:55 jackthegreat kk 17:55 jackthegreat alright i reforwarded it to the right address 17:55 jackthegreat my external ip 17:55 Krock the network internal IP should be like 192.168.??.??? 17:55 jackthegreat yes 17:56 Krock can you connect to that one with a network internal client? 17:57 jackthegreat what is that 17:57 jackthegreat actually i gtg grr 17:58 jackthegreat but thanks for helping me 17:58 Krock err ok 20:44 shangul !server 20:44 MinetestBot shangul: German Minetest Server | minetest-german.ddns.net | Clients: 2/10, 0/2 | Version: 0.4.14-dev / minetest | Ping: 54ms 20:44 Calinou !servers 20:44 shangul Calinou, u r one of developers? 20:45 Calinou no 20:46 everamzah !server 20:46 MinetestBot everamzah: Cryt-Survival | mt.thatgraemeguy.co.za | Clients: 0/15, 0/2 | Version: 0.4.12-dev / dreambuiler | Ping: 158ms 20:46 everamzah what is that, random? 20:46 everamzah !server 20:46 MinetestBot everamzah: OldCoder Moontest-Solartest | minetest.org:30021 | Clients: 1/25, 0/2 | Version: 0.4.14-dev / world_game | Ping: 84ms 20:46 everamzah oh good one 20:47 OldCoder Hi 20:48 shangul how can i mix worlds?i hav my world, i send it to a friend and he makes many changes.also i made many changes.now how to sync them? 20:48 shangul oldcoder, hai 20:48 OldCoder o/ 20:48 Calinou shangul: try a software like Syncthing: http://syncthing.net 20:48 OldCoder Calinou, shangul elaborate 20:49 OldCoder shangul, do you mean merge map changes? There are several ways 20:49 OldCoder You can use schems to transfer buildings 20:49 OldCoder You can also merge worlds at the SQL level. I can help with that. 20:49 OldCoder Calinou, syncthing would not understand Minetest format, would it? 20:49 Calinou you wouldn't be able to both work on the world at the same time 20:49 OldCoder Right 20:49 Calinou but if you wait for the synchronization to finish, you'll be fine 20:50 OldCoder If they get merged now, that will work 20:50 OldCoder But must merge first 20:50 Calinou else, just make a server... 20:50 Calinou merging can't be done 20:50 OldCoder Sure it can 20:50 Calinou Minetest maps are a map.sqlite thing 20:50 * OldCoder does it all the time 20:50 OldCoder Right 20:50 Calinou it's a single file for Syncthing 20:50 OldCoder Well, yes 20:50 everamzah i like it when someone right-clicks with an empty wieldhand. 20:50 * everamzah activates 20:50 Calinou ACTIVATE POWER MODE! 20:50 everamzah haha 20:50 OldCoder shangul, do you have two different worlds or is one just a newer version of the other? 20:50 Calinou https://atom.io/packages/activate-power-mode 20:51 shangul [] shangul: try a software like Syncthing: http://syncthing.net => not dis i need a software which do that 20:51 everamzah wow that's exactly how i pictured it :D 20:51 OldCoder shangul, is one world the same as the other but newer? 20:51 OldCoder Or did you both make changes> 20:51 OldCoder ? 20:53 shangul we had the same world first but then we each one made our own changes. 20:54 twoelk changes as in adding other mods? 20:54 shangul no 20:54 shangul changes r new buildings 20:54 twoelk use WorldEdit for transfering buildings 20:56 OldCoder shangul, there are two basic ways 20:56 * twoelk waits for OldCoders world manipulating on sqlite basis tool to be disclosed 20:56 OldCoder #1 What twoelk said. You can make schems and load them. 20:56 OldCoder #2 What twoelk also said. I have a tool for this purpose. I can merge your worlds. 20:56 OldCoder Done 20:57 OldCoder If it is just a dozen buildings 20:57 OldCoder #1 is simple 20:57 twoelk :-) 20:57 OldCoder 20:57 OldCoder If it is major changes, I will take a look 20:57 OldCoder However, you will need to decide which world's buildings take priority 20:57 shangul u have a tool,where i can download it? 20:58 twoelk if buildings are in the same mapchunk #2 wont work though 20:58 OldCoder Tool is 1 to 2 years away from download, sorry. I would do this myself. 20:58 OldCoder twoelk see above. I addressed this... 20:58 OldCoder He would need to say which world's buildings 20:58 OldCoder take priority in that case 20:58 shangul ok and thanks 20:58 twoelk yep - ninjaed 20:58 OldCoder Yep 20:58 OldCoder shangul How many buildings are there? 20:58 OldCoder Schems have the advantage over my tool... 20:58 shangul i go with #1 20:58 OldCoder Yes 20:59 OldCoder If you have many changes, my merge is better 20:59 OldCoder For a dozen or a few dozen buildings 20:59 OldCoder schems are recommended 20:59 shangul [09:31] shangul How many buildings are there? => idk 20:59 OldCoder 10? 100? 500? 20:59 OldCoder Probably less than 30, right? 20:59 twoelk do try on some other world first though, WE needs practice 21:00 OldCoder Do NOT try to schem large areas 21:00 OldCoder Do a few buildings together at a time 21:00 OldCoder If the world turns dark, tell us 21:00 shangul ok 21:00 OldCoder We can fix lighting problems 21:00 OldCoder Avoid very large or very tall schems 21:00 OldCoder Make them just a little taller than buildings 21:01 * twoelk wishes mapfix was included in minetest 21:01 OldCoder If you proceed with just a few buildings at a time, it should work 21:01 OldCoder Right 21:01 OldCoder Practice on a new copy of the map 21:01 OldCoder Tell us what happens. All right? 21:04 mangul where to download we? 21:05 mangul oh im 2! 21:06 mangul cool :D 21:06 twoelk https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=572 21:08 twoelk once you learned how to use WE this might be interesting https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=7304 21:10 twoelk https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=13116 this mod by Sokomine is also pretty useful but it may work on Linux machines better than on Windows computers 21:13 Krock !mod handle_schematics 21:13 MinetestBot Krock: Could not find anything. 21:13 Krock oh srsly? 21:14 Krock I see. It doesn't have a [Mod] tag 21:16 * twoelk wonders whether handle_schematics would work on XP 21:16 * Krock thinks so 21:16 * Krock thinks that LuaJIT behaves the same way everywhere it's possible to run it 21:17 twoelk I think the problem was finding paths to files 21:18 shangul thx downloaded we and saved other urls 21:19 shangul what can i do with mt + py? 21:19 twoelk calculate circles? 21:24 shangul what? 21:24 twoelk consider it a joke ;-P 21:27 shangul how can i make turtles(robot) work? 21:28 shangul !server 21:28 MinetestBot shangul: Mine Long and Prosper | 75.163.214.31:30022 | Clients: 0/25, 0/0 | Version: 0.4.14-dev / minetest | Ping: 149ms 21:28 shangul !server 21:28 MinetestBot shangul: Just creative world | hasanalsamra.tk:30001 | Clients: 14/40, 14/14 | Version: 0.4.14 / minetest | Ping: 151ms 21:29 shangul !server 21:29 MinetestBot shangul: RebelGames.net Minetest server | minetest.rebelgames.net | Clients: 0/40, 0/2 | Version: 0.4.14-dev / minetest | Ping: 34ms 21:29 Krock please 21:29 shangul k 21:29 Krock http://servers.minetest.net/ 21:29 shangul ik 21:29 shangul but tu 21:30 Krock tu? 21:30 shangul thank u 21:30 Krock k np 21:30 shangul ;) 21:30 twoelk http://wiki.minetest.net/Mods:Learning you may try some of the links listed on this page under simple coding 21:31 shangul for what purpose? 21:31 shangul turtle? 21:31 twoelk yep 21:31 shangul k 21:35 shangul https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=11098 21:35 shangul ^ i didnt understand 21:36 shangul still idk how to make a working robot 21:36 Krock again a mod that's not documented well 21:37 shangul ah 21:37 Krock I think you should simply download the mod, activate it and see what it offers 21:37 Krock then some clicking around and hope that it works :P 21:38 shangul i did 21:38 twoelk --To use it, place a turtle, create a floppy disk and a floppy programmer, put the floppy inside the programmer, and select the "Forth Boot Disk" program. Finally, put it in the turtle, and reboot.-- 21:38 shangul and i could just program a bootable flpy and boot turtle via it 21:38 twoelk hehe 21:39 twoelk I haven't tried it with recent minetest though 21:39 shangul ok then? 21:39 shangul how do i command it? 21:41 Krock looks like you can use lua expressions 21:41 shangul may u give me some examples? 21:42 shangul because idk lua 21:42 Krock turtle.forward() 21:42 Krock that should move the node one forward but I have no plan if it really works 21:42 shangul where i can get a list of cmds? 21:43 Krock It's not documentet, so you'll have too look up the source code. WHat an irony. You learn Lua by learning how to use a lua learning mod 21:43 Krock https://github.com/Ekdohibs/turtle/blob/master/turtle.lua#L703 21:43 * twoelk is playing on Xanadu dares not to start a new instance of minetest to check the mod as he cant remember how it worked exactly 21:44 shangul twoelk, u r the developer of dis? 21:44 twoelk nope 21:44 Krock nore! 21:45 nore hi 21:45 Krock hai :) 21:45 nore hm, you have to program it in Forth 21:45 twoelk although I might have written a program called dis or probably just a bat - squeek 21:45 nore and sorry, I should really document that mod sometime 21:46 shangul nore, u r developer of dis? 21:46 nore yup 21:46 Krock He's the creator 21:46 shangul ok 21:46 shangul nore-- 21:46 shangul ;) 21:46 nore :D 21:46 twoelk maybe : c 90 0 do [ U G G G G G G G G G D G ] 4 A Z R loop ; c ? 21:47 shangul happy 1st nagative karma nore! 21:47 twoelk stolen from that other mod 21:47 Krock but the funny thing is that sometimes you don't know what you programmed some years ago and then you're like in a 3rd person perspective and don't understand anything anymore 21:47 nore twoelk: nope, doesn't work the same 21:47 twoelk :-( 21:47 nore you have to put fuel in it and tell it to refuel first 21:48 nore then, you have the UP/DN/FW/BW commands IIRC 21:48 Krock but then why this sandbox? 21:48 nore sorry again, this mod is totally undocumented and not finished 21:48 nore Krock: two reasons 21:48 nore to get a computer that you can stop, reboot, etc 21:48 nore and because Forth is fun and still a simple language to implement 21:49 nore (and an efficient one) 21:49 Krock oh right, there's also a computer. not just a turtle - I totally forgot that :< 21:49 nore yup 21:49 nore the turtle is controlled by the computer inside it 21:49 shangul nore, what can i do with the computer? 21:49 Krock sounds like it's programmable by Lua 21:50 nore Krock: nope, Forth again 21:50 shangul which comes with turtle 21:50 nore if you want lua, use luacontroller from mesecons 21:50 nore well, the computer works exactly like the turtle 21:50 Krock aaagh.. but I thought this enviroment table was used for some command inputs 21:50 nore except it can't move 21:50 nore and it doesn't have this hardwired boot disk 21:50 nore Krock: what environment table? 21:51 Krock https://github.com/Ekdohibs/turtle/blob/master/turtle.lua#L703 21:51 Krock ^ this one 21:51 nore dead code 21:51 nore from when the turtle still used Lua 21:51 Krock oh. Rest in peace 21:51 nore (and coroutines) 21:51 nore (yes, it was extremely hacky) 21:51 Krock it totally confused me :< 21:52 shangul nore, i have a forth boot disk with a raw turtle.how do i tell it go forward 10 and dig down 3? 21:52 nore shangul: first, you press the boot button 21:52 nore it should tell you "Computer is ready" 21:52 shangul yea 21:53 nore then, you put fuel it its first inventory slot 21:53 nore and you do something like 1 1 REFUEL 21:53 nore it should use an item of fuel 21:53 nore then, FW to move forwards 21:53 nore if you want to do a loop, you have to put it inside a function 21:54 nore so, : FW-N 0 DO FW LOOP ; 21:54 nore 10 FW-N 21:54 nore ehm, this will clutter the stack though 21:54 nore as FW adds the result of whether it could move forwards on the stack 21:54 nore so 0 DO FW DROP LOOP might be better 21:55 nore and to dig down, it would be DIG-DN (or DIG-DOWN, I don't remember) 21:55 nore you can do the same kind of thing 21:56 shangul hmm i should learn forth 21:56 nore yup 21:56 shangul [16:25] then, you put fuel it its first inventory slot => what is fuel? 21:57 nore anything that can burn in a furnace 21:57 twoelk ah, a rubish burner 21:58 shangul ill check the logs tommarow 21:58 shangul pls 21:59 shangul for god's sake 21:59 shangul always document ur code 21:59 shangul and ur prj 22:00 shangul !karma nore 22:00 Krock !commands 22:00 shangul !commands 22:00 Krock shangul: https://github.com/sfan5/minetestbot-modules/blob/master/COMMANDS.md 22:01 shangul o.o 22:01 shangul [16:33] shangul: https://github.com/sfan5/minetestbot-modules/blob/master/COMMANDS.md => i thought bot answered ;] 23:02 jackthegreat hi everyone i was on here a few hours ago 23:02 jackthegreat so i need help on creating a server 23:02 jackthegreat if anyone can assist it would be appreciated 23:09 shangul did u read the wiki? 23:12 jackthegreat yes 23:12 jackthegreat i already portforwarded 23:12 shangul ok whats wrong then? 23:13 jackthegreat i cant get my server to appear on the list 23:15 shangul idk maybe u should add it manually 23:16 jackthegreat how do i do that? 23:16 shangul idk 23:16 shangul idk minetest 23:17 shangul well im just a gamer 23:25 everamzah what the ip jackthegreat 23:26 shangul aw 23:27 jackthegreat 66.249.65.23 23:27 jackthegreat what for? 23:27 everamzah what for? the server ip address 23:28 everamzah !up 66.249.65.23 23:28 MinetestBot 66.249.65.23:30000 seems to be down 23:28 everamzah o/ 23:28 jackthegreat hm 23:28 everamzah is it... running? 23:28 jackthegreat yeah.... 23:28 jackthegreat what should the address line be? 23:29 jackthegreat i put 127.0.0.1. 23:29 everamzah and it says that it's announced to public server list? 23:29 jackthegreat yes 23:29 everamzah well, 127.0.0.1 won't work because that's an internal number 23:29 everamzah same for 192.168, etc 23:29 jackthegreat should i replace with external ip 23:30 everamzah the address that you want a player to connect to. unless they're on the same computer as you, 127.0.0.1 won't work. it has the be the publicly accessible ip, that your ISP has assigned to you 23:30 everamzah !up 24.94.11.242 23:30 MinetestBot 24.94.11.242:30000 seems to be down 23:30 jackthegreat lol i see 23:31 jackthegreat !up 66.249.65.23 23:31 MinetestBot 66.249.65.23:30000 seems to be down 23:31 everamzah and that's bind_address too, i think 23:31 everamzah have you been looking in minetest.conf.example? 23:31 jackthegreat yep 23:31 everamzah oh server_address = whatever ur ip is 23:32 everamzah what is ur ip? 66.249.65.23 ? 23:32 jackthegreat yep 23:32 everamzah oh i'm pinging it now anyway that's good right? 23:32 everamzah !up 66.249.65.23 23:32 MinetestBot 66.249.65.23:30000 seems to be down 23:32 jackthegreat i just repalced it though and restarted the command window 23:32 everamzah but... something still not right. try pasting your entire minetest.conf on pastebin.com or somewhere 23:33 everamzah oh ok let's try again then 23:33 everamzah !up 66.249.65.23 23:33 MinetestBot 66.249.65.23:30000 seems to be down 23:33 jackthegreat maintab_LAST = multiplayer menu_last_game = minetest name = jackthegreatest server_dedicated = false address = 66.249.65.23 aux1_descends = false doubletap_jump = false fast_move = true free_move = true keymap_backward = KEY_KEY_S keymap_chat = KEY_KEY_T keymap_cinematic = KEY_F8 keymap_cmd = / keymap_console = KEY_F10 keymap_drop = KEY_KEY_Q keymap_fastmove = KEY_KEY_J keymap_forward = KEY_KEY_W keymap_freemove = KEY_KEY_K ke 23:33 everamzah that 23:33 KaadmY >.< 23:33 everamzah haha 23:33 everamzah address is different than server_address 23:33 * KaadmY cringes 23:34 everamzah that's not even all of it, eh? definitely paste somewhere jackthegreat 23:34 everamzah (but please not directly in this channel) 23:34 jackthegreat haha 23:34 everamzah so you have server_address = 66.249.65.23 now? 23:35 jackthegreat yep 23:35 everamzah did you do it for bind_address too? i don't think you need other, but now i don't know 23:36 jackthegreat i dont think i have the bind address line 23:36 everamzah minetest.conf.example says server_address = _domain_ you want listed on master list 23:36 everamzah well try bind_address. i didn't think you had to set that 23:37 jackthegreat alright i just pasted onto the pastebin thing 23:37 everamzah !up 66.249.65.23 23:37 everamzah oh? 23:37 MinetestBot 66.249.65.23:30000 seems to be down 23:38 * everamzah searches pastebin.org 23:38 everamzah FOUND IT 23:38 everamzah http://pastebin.com/0QEuaBg4 23:38 jackthegreat yep 23:39 everamzah um, jack 23:39 jackthegreat go ahead 23:39 everamzah i don't see server_announce jack 23:39 everamzah i mean, i don't see server_address 23:39 jackthegreat its on way bottom 23:39 everamzah i see announce, but not server_address. i see address = but that's where you want to connect to 23:39 everamzah oh ok let me look 23:39 everamzah http://pastebin.com/0QEuaBg4 this right? 23:40 everamzah because it has no server_address 23:40 everamzah looks like you really do need that one 23:40 jackthegreat hmm your right 23:40 jackthegreat i dont have it 23:40 everamzah \xD/ 23:40 everamzah we can do it! 23:41 jackthegreat so i put server_address = 66.249.65.23 23:41 everamzah !up 66.249.65.23 23:41 everamzah and restarted? 23:41 MinetestBot ... 23:41 jackthegreat not yet 23:41 everamzah MinetestBot: c'mon 23:42 jackthegreat lol 23:42 everamzah !up 66.249.65.23 23:42 MinetestBot ... 23:42 everamzah ? 23:42 KaadmY wat 23:42 KaadmY MinetestBot: please 23:42 KaadmY !up 127.0.0.1 23:42 jackthegreat whats wrong with server 23:42 MinetestBot 127.0.0.1:30000 seems to be down 23:42 KaadmY rofl 23:42 KaadmY duh it's down :P 23:42 jomat hm 23:42 everamzah so why does it say only ... 23:42 everamzah !up 66.249.65.23 23:42 MinetestBot 66.249.65.23:30000 seems to be down 23:43 jackthegreat sheesh 23:43 everamzah jack paste the new config 23:43 jackthegreat i restarted it also 23:43 jackthegreat so i added in the server address line 23:43 jackthegreat but what else did you say i needed? 23:43 everamzah i think all that you need is server_address = publicly accessible ip 23:44 jackthegreat !up 66.249.65.23 23:44 MinetestBot 66.249.65.23:30000 seems to be down 23:44 jackthegreat do you have a server of your own? 23:45 everamzah yes 23:45 everamzah it just crashed tho haha 23:45 jackthegreat is it running on a windows? 23:45 everamzah and i don't have it on a loop, and i'm not restarting it until i find the bug 23:45 everamzah i don't own windows, unfortunately 23:45 everamzah but i think it doesn't make a difference? unless, you think it's like a firewall dealy 23:45 KaadmY i would call not owning windows "fortunate" :P 23:46 KaadmY .l; 23:46 everamzah i was able to ping you ok... but i dunno much about networking 23:46 jackthegreat oh yeah i didnt unblock in my antivirus 23:46 KaadmY oh 23:46 KaadmY that would probably cause problems 23:47 jackthegreat but it would only corrupt the map 23:47 jackthegreat not get in the way 23:48 jackthegreat everamzah could you post your command line on bpastebin 23:48 jackthegreat *minetest.conf 23:48 everamzah oh sure thing 23:49 jackthegreat so is your server able to be displayed on the server list? 23:49 jackthegreat and let me know when its up 23:50 everamzah http://pastebin.com/ySna2jyr 23:50 everamzah it thought i was a spammer and i had to identify commerical trucks 23:50 everamzah i feel dirty 23:51 jackthegreat lol 23:52 jackthegreat is that post your entire .conf? 23:53 everamzah oh, sorry. it just crashed, it's down 23:53 everamzah it's normally up 23:53 everamzah and yea, that's the entire .conf 23:53 jackthegreat hmm maybe my .conf has a whole bunch of extra files? 23:53 jackthegreat *extra lines 23:54 everamzah fun_caves is passing userdata to minetest.is_protected() instead of a username string it appears 23:54 everamzah yes jack inoticed that 23:54 everamzah i separate my client .conf from my server .conf 23:55 jackthegreat so this one is your server.conf 23:55 jackthegreat but what would client.conf be for 23:56 everamzah ok i restarted it 23:56 everamzah well, i don't generally play minetest on the same PC i host it on 23:56 everamzah you can use any file, filename, and the --config option to select which 23:56 everamzah so for example, minetestserver --config mycoolserver.conf 23:57 everamzah as opposed to minetest --go --address 127.0.0.1 --name jack --config mycoolclient.conf 23:57 everamzah but there's a lot of different ways to do similar things 23:57 everamzah !up 66.249.65.23 23:57 jackthegreat ok you lost me haha 23:57 MinetestBot 66.249.65.23:30000 seems to be down 23:57 everamzah you're launching from the command line? or the client program? 23:58 everamzah you can start a server from the client program, i used to, just by checking the Public checkbox 23:58 everamzah but it's generally easier to do minetestserver or minetest --server from the command line. especially so you can see the log. and with the --terminal argument you can interact with the server without logging in with the client 23:59 jackthegreat command line