Time  Nick           Message
01:03 Glorfindel     Hi rubenwardy
01:03 rubenwardy     hi Glorfindel
02:13 NeueMann       How do I reinstall an object? All of my recipes have changed and my fenceposts aren't fenceposts but instead brown blocks.
02:13 VanessaE       update your client.
02:13 NeueMann       I'm at .14
02:14 VanessaE       you're using too old of a copy of the client/engine for the copy of minetest_game you're using
02:14 VanessaE       are you sure you're actually using 0.4.14 when you see those whole blocks?  what you're seeing is the result of a new drawtype that was put into use not long before 0.4.14 came out./
02:15 NeueMann       What's the latest version? I also followed the compilation instructions from the minetest wiki.
02:15 VanessaE       0.4.14 is the latest, came out just a couple weeks ago I think
02:15 NeueMann       That's what I have.
02:16 VanessaE       no idea then, unless your copy of minetest_game is broken
02:16 NeueMann       So can I just redownload minetest_game?
02:17 VanessaE       you should be able to, but I'd recommend uninstalling both, deleting anything you have that might be an older copy of the engine, and re-installing both.
02:21 NeueMann       It was working until I started messing with my mods.
02:22 VanessaE       time to un/re-install your mods then :)
02:24 NeueMann       Yay me :)
03:46 wilkgr         2016-06-15 13:39:17: VERBOSE[ConnectionSend]: con(936/255)RE-SENDING timed-out RELIABLE to 216.224.185.99(t/o=1): from_peer_id=255, channel=2, seqnum=1891
03:46 wilkgr         That's not normal, right?
05:13 swift110-phone hey
06:58 Hijiri         is it really ok for people to use arbitrary global variables just because they are written in ALL_CAPS?
07:01 VanessaE       nope.
07:07 CWz            allo VanessaE
07:08 VanessaE       hi
08:54 JamesTait      Good morning all!  Happy Wednesday, and happy Nature Photography Day! 😃  🐦 🐟 🐠 📸
10:32 Megaf          [09:54:03] <JamesTait> Good morning all!  Happy Wednesday, and happy Nature Photography Day! 😃  🐦 🐟 🐠 📸
10:32 Megaf          my nday!!
10:33 Megaf          day
10:46 JamesTait      Megaf_, mine too (though not as often as I'd like these days).
15:50 Sawyer_        tried to look for some mods that would help with farming chicken/sheep, don't suppose there are any?
15:52 Glorfindel     Help how?
15:53 Sawyer_        so that the animals would stay in place and not wander through the fences.. and die off too quickly
15:53 Sawyer_        and reproduce what not
15:56 Fixer          Sawyer_: try mobs_redo and mobs_animals
16:02 Glorfindel     Mobs redo is perfect for that
16:03 Glorfindel     Oh, Fixer: remember the fps thing yesterday?
16:03 Fixer          Glorfindel: yes
16:04 Glorfindel     Well, I'm getting lower fps on pc even with vr of 5
16:04 nial           Is there a way to remove certain items from the creative inventory on a server?
16:04 Glorfindel     So that doesn't seem to be the cause
16:04 Fixer          Glorfindel: thats strange, what PC do you have?
16:05 Calinou        nial: yes, edit the mod code, in the node/item's groups, add "not_in_creative_inventory=1"
16:06 Glorfindel     Fixer: heh, it's pretty wimpy. But this phone is no powerhouse either
16:06 Fixer          Glorfindel: what is your PC config? detailed info pls
16:07 Glorfindel     3.2ghz P4, 1GB ram, Intel graphics,
16:08 Fixer          Glorfindel: intel graphics is your problem
16:08 Fixer          Glorfindel: damn your config is shitty
16:10 Fixer          Glorfindel: can you install descrete videocard?
16:10 Fixer          Glorfindel: AGP or PCI-E?
16:11 Fixer          Glorfindel: you can find descent videocard for cheap on aftermarket
16:11 Fixer          Glorfindel: also
16:11 Glorfindel     Oh actually this phone gets higher fps than a laptop too:  dual core @2-something with 3GB and nvidia GeForce, forget which
16:11 Fixer          Glorfindel: amount of RAM... is pretty small, you can run into swapping, that will slow down game a lot
16:11 Glorfindel     Ummm, no
16:11 Fixer          Glorfindel: cpu is double core?
16:11 Fixer          Glorfindel: if one core thats really shitty
16:12 Fixer          you have not balanced PC config
16:12 Glorfindel     I tried to find a gpu, but it has a weird interface of some kind
16:12 Calinou        a GT 710 (€32) is enough to play Minetest
16:12 Fixer          Glorfindel: you have AGP?
16:12 Glorfindel     Single core with ht
16:13 Glorfindel     Not sure
16:13 Fixer          Glorfindel: too bad
16:13 Fixer          Glorfindel: if weird interface it is AGP for sure
16:14 Fixer          Glorfindel: you can still find AGP card
16:14 Fixer          Glorfindel: also, find some RAM
16:14 Fixer          Glorfindel: on second market
16:14 Fixer          second hand*
16:14 Glorfindel     Heh, I'm probably just going to get a Razer Blade Stealth
16:15 Fixer          Glorfindel: i've played MT 0.3 on P4 2.8ghz, 1536mb ram, Rad9600xt agp about 4 years ago and performance was descent - 40-60 fps
16:15 Glorfindel     Hmm
16:16 Glorfindel     Yeah I do know I need some ram because when minetest tries to use swap it locks up the PC
16:16 Fixer          Glorfindel: right
16:16 Fixer          Glorfindel: swap kills performance right away
16:16 Glorfindel     I'll swipe some from an old pc
16:17 Fixer          Glorfindel: buy 1gig of ram and some old agp videocard (but not too old), it should be cheap
16:17 nial           Calinou, do I need to edit minetest source code and compile to make that change? Or do I only need to edit some config files somewhere?
16:17 Sawyer_        Thanks Fixer, I'll try those
16:17 Glorfindel     It doesn't kill performance, it locks up the PC completely, hard reboot to recover
16:17 Glorfindel     Ok
16:18 Fixer          Glorfindel: ram could be damn expensive
16:18 asl97          nial: <Calinou> nial: yes, >edit the mod code<, in the node/item's groups, add "not_in_creative_inventory=1"
16:18 Fixer          Glorfindel: if you have ddram 1
16:18 Calinou        nial: it's in the mod code, which is in Lua
16:18 Calinou        (much simpler than C++)
16:18 Glorfindel     Recommend me a card
16:18 Fixer          Glorfindel: find it as cheap as possible from orphaned PC
16:18 Fixer          Glorfindel: hmm, if AGP, let me think
16:20 Glorfindel     I have a few old boxes with ram that will work, just have to shuffle it to fit as much as possible in the slots
16:20 Fixer          Glorfindel: make sure to fit right ram
16:20 Fixer          there is ddram 1/2/3...
16:20 Fixer          you should have ddram 1
16:20 Fixer          iirc
16:20 Fixer          maybe ddram2
16:20 Fixer          you should know better
16:20 Glorfindel     ddram2
16:21 Glorfindel     Lemme get you pn
16:21 Calinou        my next PC will be DDR4 :)
16:21 Fixer          Glorfindel: pn?
16:21 Calinou        it's been available for about a year now
16:21 Fixer          Glorfindel: you can find good agp cards on this list, don't mind different language - Glorfindel: very long ago I found this http://fcenter.ru/online/hardarticles/videos/12836
16:22 Glorfindel     HP Pavilion a830n
16:22 Fixer          Glorfindel: just look for AGP, ram size and frequences
16:22 Glorfindel     K
16:23 Fixer          ah, PC3200 ram...
16:23 Fixer          DDR SDRAM
16:23 Fixer          thats ddram 1 iirc
16:23 Krock          I got a good, silent pipe agp card here but can't use it anymore :<
16:24 Krock          would work fine but even this mobo from 2006 doesn't have a slot for it anymore
16:24 Fixer          no wait
16:24 Fixer          Glorfindel: it says 1 (total) / 1 (free) x PCIe
16:24 Fixer          Glorfindel: PCIe is what you need, basically find some cheap second hand videocard (low end one)
16:24 Glorfindel     Hmm
16:24 Fixer          you don't have agp
16:25 Fixer          thats what i have in my old pc
16:25 Fixer          agp standard was used in 199X-200X
16:25 Glorfindel     Pretty sure my cards didn't fit though
16:25 Fixer          Glorfindel: read your manual, hard to say
16:25 Glorfindel     Hmm
16:25 Glorfindel     I got this free, didn't come with a manual lol
16:26 Fixer          Glorfindel: maybe it is smallest kind of PCI-e...
16:26 asl97          just look up the board online
16:26 Fixer          right
16:27 Fixer          PCI Express ‡ 	1x16
16:27 Fixer          at least chipset should support it?
16:27 asl97          Glorfindel: you are on linux right?  lshw should tell you the board,  there might be other tools but i can't recall any atm
16:27 Glorfindel     Yeah, Linux
16:28 Glorfindel     But; can't access it right now :/
16:28 Fixer          http://www.ascendtech.us/mmASC/Images/Augsburg.jpg
16:28 Glorfindel     Down for repairs
16:29 Glorfindel     Ummm, doesn't look quite right
16:29 Glorfindel     If I'm seeing correctly
16:30 Glorfindel     Oh wait, yeah that's it
16:30 asl97          i see the normal gpu pci-e slot
16:30 Krock          looks nice. got a similar-looking one
16:31 Glorfindel     It's too far forward
16:31 Glorfindel     Or backward, I should say
16:31 Fixer          Glorfindel: they same it is backwards compatible, you can stick new card in PCI-E 16x1 slot I guess
16:32 asl97          it just depend on the case, i seen gpu that are too big for some cases
16:32 Fixer          Glorfindel: interesting, maybe it does not fit that good, found video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dvxcnfx3Bm0
16:33 Fixer          Glorfindel: try googling "fit a gfx-card to a pci-e 1x slot" or smth like this
16:34 Glorfindel     I thought I had read somewhere that this particular box didn't fit many cards
16:35 asl97          Glorfindel: you can just remove the board from the case and run it like in the video :P
16:35 Fixer          lol
16:35 Fixer          needs cutting of videocard %)
16:35 Glorfindel     I did take the plate off to try to fit it in that way
16:37 Fixer          Glorfindel: maybe there are some adapters that can help
16:38 Fixer          Glorfindel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQZrqVJoxpg
16:38 Fixer          funnt
16:39 Glorfindel     Internet is to pokey for videos
16:44 Glorfindel     Hmm
16:54 Glorfindel     I'll just get a different PC :P
16:58 Krock          I wonder if today's computers still have an ATA socket on the mobo to attach HDDs there
16:58 Krock          or if they're all using SATA now
17:07 sfan5          Krock: no ata
17:07 Krock          sfan5, even not for DVD/blu-ray drives?
17:07 sfan5          Krock: no ata
17:08 sfan5          you can't get ATA blu-ray drives anywhere
17:08 Krock          okay. This is a depressing fact but thanks
17:08 Krock          haven't seen a blu-ray drive yet, so I have no idea how they're connected :3
17:08 sfan5          everything SATA
17:34 swift110       hey all
17:37 Glorfindel     Hi
17:40 bulldozer      hi
17:45 est31          Krock, in fact the newest mobos have a new socket
17:45 est31          I think its called M.2 or something
17:45 est31          its used to directly connect ssds to it
17:46 Glorfindel     Yeah
17:47 Krock          est31, I think we will laught about that one in about 20 years (if not earlier)
17:47 est31          heh
17:47 est31          no
17:47 est31          I'm laughing now
17:47 est31          lol :)
17:52 sofar          m.2 sata is nice
17:52 sofar          the NUCs all have it
17:53 sofar          Krock: I have a nice external USB-3.0 bluray reader/dvd writer
17:53 sofar          Krock: even works with Linux
17:53 Krock          oh nice :)
17:53 sofar          wasn't even expensive
17:53 sofar          want to know the model?
17:54 Krock          no thanks. I got a USB 2.0 DVD writer here. Works well too
17:54 sofar          https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001TVAU0E/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1 FWIW
17:55 sofar          actually, it's USB-2.0
17:55 sofar          but it rips bluerays sufficiently fast
17:56 swift110       hmm
17:58 est31          wouldn't buy a NUC
17:58 est31          have heard they sound like jet engines
17:58 est31          when under load
17:59 sofar          my BDW NUC is dead quiet
17:59 * est31        likes silent pcs
17:59 sofar          don't get high TDP NUCs
17:59 est31          best if without fan
17:59 sofar          if you want quiet. the i5's are all reasonably quiet
18:00 sofar          haven't heard the SKL i5 NUCs either. my colleage (10ft away) has a cluster of 20 of them doing highly intensive jobs
18:00 sofar          est31: there's only one or two NUC models that can get loud ... don't assume all NUCs are that way
18:01 whitephoenix   minetest is pretty great 10/10 would ban self from singleplayer world again
18:01 est31          bought a nofan cr-80 and mounted it on an i7 6700
18:01 est31          works like a charm
18:01 est31          no noise if there is no fan :)
18:25 swift110       hmm
18:33 Mr_Narfh       Hi
18:34 Mr_Narfh       CWz?
18:35 CWz            yes?
18:35 Mr_Narfh       how do i set a password?
18:35 sfan5          just enter the password into the "password" field the first time you login to a server
18:35 Mr_Narfh       oh
18:36 Mr_Narfh       didnt register
18:38 asl97          Mr_Narfh: what did you mean by 'didnt register'?
18:38 Mr_Narfh       "Mr_Narfh isnt a registerd name"
18:39 asl97          Mr_Narfh: did you mean a password for the name on irc by 'set a password'?
18:39 Mr_Narfh       yeah
18:40 sfan5          oh you mean irc accounts
18:40 Mr_Narfh       yeah
18:40 sfan5          type /msg NickServ help register
18:40 Mr_Narfh       ok
18:40 Mr_Narfh       thx
18:41 Mr_Narfh       uhhh
18:41 Mr_Narfh       i dont understand it ;-;
18:42 asl97          if you typed `/msg NickServ help register` the nickserv should have send you a pm telling you what to do
18:42 sfan5          /msg NickServ register yourpasswordhere your@email.address.here
18:42 sfan5          then you can login using the password you used there
18:42 Mr_Narfh       oh ok
18:43 sfan5          but before you need to do what the email says
18:43 Mr_Narfh       ok
18:44 Mr_Narfh       thanks
18:45 Mr_Narfh       @ShadowBot hi
18:45 Mr_Narfh       :L
18:45 Mr_Narfh       frogot te cmds
18:47 Mr_Narfh       diehard? :O
18:47 Mr_Narfh       havent seen u in 2 yrs
18:49 Mr_Narfh       o.0
18:50 Krock          Is this a spammy kid or just "active community"?
18:50 Krock          not sure
18:51 Mr_Narfh       well im a teen
18:51 Mr_Narfh       community of narfh :D
18:51 KaadmY         i'm a teen ;)
18:52 KaadmY         i figured out registering pretty quick without help ;)
18:52 Mr_Narfh       i havent been on this in 2 yrs alot changed
18:52 Krock          well, google (or DDG) helped you
18:58 Mr_Narfh       now i kinda wanna set up a sever :L
18:58 asl97          Mr_Narfh: i am pretty sure the register function on freenode has always been the same since forever
18:58 DI3HARD139     Someone called??
18:59 * DI3HARD139   goes back to inchra
18:59 Mr_Narfh       wuts inchra?
19:00 DI3HARD139     The MT main IRC network (I think). Its where most of the servers are connected
19:00 asl97          Mr_Narfh: another irc network setup by a bunch of server owner
19:00 Mr_Narfh       oh ok
19:01 Mr_Narfh       ok so how do i set up a public sever for mintest 0.4.13?
19:01 Krock          don't. Use 0.4.14
19:01 DI3HARD139     http://wiki.minetest.net/Setting_up_a_server
19:01 asl97          Mr_Narfh: pretty sure it's the same way as two years ago
19:01 DI3HARD139     and do what Krock said
19:02 Mr_Narfh       oh ok
19:02 Mr_Narfh       thx
19:02 Mr_Narfh       btw die is bluejay
19:02 Mr_Narfh       :P
19:02 Mr_Narfh       its*
19:02 NeueMann       Is it normal for random people to just stand around on your server and not do anything?
19:03 Mr_Narfh       yeap
19:03 DI3HARD139     Long time no see BlueJay
19:03 DI3HARD139     yep
19:03 Mr_Narfh       yes it is
19:03 Glorfindel     Lol yeah
19:03 DI3HARD139     I get those all the time. Theres mods to kick them tho
19:03 Mr_Narfh       2 years
19:03 NeueMann       I'm more interested in understanding why they're doing it than kicking them.
19:04 DI3HARD139     its the mobile users. they forget to close the app
19:04 DI3HARD139     thus them remaining connected
19:04 Mr_Narfh       lol
19:04 KaadmY         DI3HARD139: don't the apps' network connections time out when the app's in the background?
19:04 DI3HARD139     Not all the time
19:05 Glorfindel     Ugh mobile client
19:05 KaadmY         i've played MT on mobile for ~10 minutes
19:05 KaadmY         just too fricking hard
19:05 KaadmY         such a PITA
19:05 NeueMann       ah. That explains a lot. Question: How do you remove the server (if you compiled it from source)? I've got some blocks not rendering correctly and someone told me to reinstall everything.
19:05 DI3HARD139     I never played on Mobile. Only time I used the app was when I had to ban some players and the irc_commands wasnt working.
19:06 asl97          NeueMann: make clear
19:06 asl97          or was it 'make clean'
19:06 DI3HARD139     sudo apt-get remove Minetest If debian based. for windows just delete the MT folder
19:06 Glorfindel     It's torture after using a keyboard and mouse
19:06 DI3HARD139     ikr
19:06 NeueMann       Will that remove my .minetest directory?
19:06 Mr_Narfh       just updated
19:07 Mr_Narfh       now wut
19:07 asl97          NeueMann: it shouldn't mess with your .minetest directory
19:07 asl97          it should just clear the compiled stuff
19:07 DI3HARD139     it wont. not the folders that were changed anyways
19:07 Mr_Narfh       die now what?
19:08 DI3HARD139     hmm....?
19:08 Mr_Narfh       i updated
19:08 DI3HARD139     re-configure everything again
19:09 * DI3HARD139   is gonna make a video on how to do it since its a frequent question.
19:09 aheinecke      yay
19:09 Glorfindel     Hire to do what?
19:09 Glorfindel     *how
19:09 Mr_Narfh       dune
19:09 Mr_Narfh       now wut
19:10 DI3HARD139     Make a server.
19:10 Glorfindel     Now wut what
19:10 DI3HARD139     http://wiki.minetest.net/Setting_up_a_server
19:11 Glorfindel     Ahhh, ic
19:11 Mr_Narfh       e.e
19:12 Mr_Narfh       ip of my computer?
19:13 Mr_Narfh       so my regular ip or wut?
19:13 DI3HARD139     google "Whats My IP"
19:14 DI3HARD139     ~google Whats my ip
19:14 ShadowBot      DI3HARD139: Error: invalid version
19:14 KaadmY         ...
19:14 DI3HARD139     thought it would acutally list the site. nvm
19:14 Mr_Narfh       ok
19:14 Mr_Narfh       now?
19:14 KaadmY         https://www.google.com/search?q=whats+my+ip
19:14 NeueMann       apt-get remove didn't remove minetest.
19:14 KaadmY         NeueMann: did you install MT from apt-get?
19:15 Mr_Narfh       Windows: Start → Run … → cmd.exe → ipconfig
19:15 DI3HARD139     some files will remain. manually delete those
19:15 KaadmY         apt-get or aptitude?
19:15 Mr_Narfh       how do i do that?
19:15 NeueMann       no. I did not. I compiled it.
19:15 KaadmY         NeueMann: no wonder
19:15 Mr_Narfh       Windows: Start → Run … → cmd.exe → ipconfig  how do i do this?
19:15 NeueMann       Just going by what I was just told in here.
19:15 asl97          NeueMann: i told you make clean
19:15 NeueMann       make clean doesn't work either.
19:16 DI3HARD139     In terminal do. sudo rm -r /usr/share/minetest/ and delete the .minetest and minetest from ur home folder
19:16 KaadmY         NeueMann: what's the problem with make clean?
19:16 KaadmY         DI3HARD139: you should backup .minetest
19:16 Mr_Narfh       .................................?????????????????????????????????
19:16 NeueMann       make: *** No rule to make target 'clean'.  Stop.
19:16 DI3HARD139     tis true but wants he/she wants a clean reinstall
19:17 NeueMann       I need to keep the .minetest folder.
19:17 NeueMann       or at least the database.
19:17 DI3HARD139     all the game files will be in the "minetest" folder then. Not the .minetest
19:17 DI3HARD139     worlds and subgames are in .minetest
19:17 NeueMann       That's what I'm wanting to keep. I don't want to get rid of my world.
19:18 DI3HARD139     ok then just delete the minetest folder that doesnt have the . in the name
19:18 DI3HARD139     make certain that there isnt a worlds folder that may be hiding. (IDK what version u originally compiled)
19:18 Mr_Narfh       im so confused
19:18 asl97          NeueMann: how could there be no target clean?
19:18 NeueMann       3.14.
19:19 NeueMann       That's what it's telling me. I'm just the messenger.
19:19 DI3HARD139     the clean cmd for cmake doesnt work for me either
19:19 Mr_Narfh       die idk wut to do
19:19 asl97          the clean delete the created file,  after a clean, you make and make install to override the installed stuff
19:19 DI3HARD139     I had to manually delete everything that it left me.
19:20 asl97          there no need to delete before 'reinstalling'
19:21 asl97          make clean doesn't touch the installed stuff
19:21 NeueMann       no such directory /usr/share/minetest/
19:21 DI3HARD139     @Mr_Marfh Are you using windows
19:21 Mr_Narfh       yeah
19:21 asl97          NeueMann: if you installed from source, it will be in /usr/local/share/minetest/
19:21 DI3HARD139     @NeueMann ok I usually just run that just to be safe as the ppa installs the subgames and other files in that dir
19:22 Mr_Narfh       im using windows
19:22 * DI3HARD139   works on making a video
19:23 * DI3HARD139   may timeout here in a couple of minms
19:23 Mr_Narfh       kek
19:23 DI3HARD139     mins
19:23 asl97          a rule of thumb, don't install from both the repo and source, you will only create a mess
19:23 Mr_Narfh       mean time ima idk
19:25 NeueMann       I don't want the repos on this. They're usually horribly out of date.
19:25 DI3HARD139     Im capturing a capture while capturing that capture.... and sooo on
19:25 DI3HARD139     Its capture ception
19:27 est31          What you can do though is to install the dependencies from the repos
19:27 est31          apt-get build-dep minetest
19:27 est31          works really well
19:29 NeueMann       ? Cmake has a period before the flags with the original instructions. Then it states to make without irrlicht, use another flag. Do I still add the period to the beginning of the flag?
19:29 NeueMann       http://dev.minetest.net/Compiling_Minetest
19:30 est31          NeueMann, have you installed irrlicht-dev?
19:30 NeueMann       all dependencies are installed.
19:30 est31          whats the error msg
19:30 est31          can you put it on a pastebin
19:31 NeueMann       No error. Just wondering if the period means anything special. Can't use irrlicht because I'm running a server and there are no displays.
19:31 DI3HARD139     Use this: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=3837
19:31 DI3HARD139     its much easier
19:31 NeueMann       Tried that. It used irrlicht.
19:32 DI3HARD139     it fetches irrlicht-dev for you.
19:32 NeueMann       I have that. The problem is, a VPS is headless so irrlicht keeps complaining that it doesn't have a display.
19:32 DI3HARD139     rather it did for me anyway
19:33 DI3HARD139     so...
19:33 DI3HARD139     hmm.... I have that error aswell I just ignore it
19:33 DI3HARD139     if your running a server u would use minetest --server
19:33 DI3HARD139     in terminal
19:33 NeueMann       I usually just compile the server only but I'll try both this time. Why not?
19:34 DI3HARD139     thats what I do. I just leave the settings alone and use the 1-line script. then just do everything from terminal
19:34 DI3HARD139     then make a script so you dont have to type everything out again just to start it
19:35 est31          NeueMann, you'll have to use minetestserver
19:35 est31          instead of minetest
19:37 NeueMann       yeah, that's why I usually just compile the server. With the compiler, you have to "minetest --server"
19:45 Mr_Narfh       ok is there a video now?
19:48 NeueMann       What are you trying to do?
19:49 est31          NeueMann, what exactly is the issue
19:49 NeueMann       Nothing. It's fixed.
19:50 Mr_Narfh       im trying to make a sever
19:50 est31          nice
19:51 DI3HARD139     @Mr_Narfh https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=8924
19:54 Mr_Narfh       to confusing
19:54 Mr_Narfh       do u think u can host a sever for me?
19:54 Mr_Narfh       like youd be the owner and i would be co?
19:55 DI3HARD139     I'm not hosting any more servers atm. My servers disk usage is too high atm. maybe once I get a better connection here where I live.
19:56 Mr_Narfh       ok
19:56 * DI3HARD139   wants to switch to OVH to get 64GB of ram and 3x 120GB SSDs with a 8 core CPU
19:56 Mr_Narfh       wait
19:56 Mr_Narfh       are you a admin for stormchaser3000?
19:57 asl97          Mr_Narfh: i am sure there will be a few willing if you meant help you setup the server and you will be proving the hosting
19:58 Mr_Narfh       yeah but like i dont run the sever i would only be like the main core like main admin or co owner
19:59 Mr_Narfh       i dont think i can run run it bcus of this laptop
19:59 NeueMann       Can someone try to make a fence on my server and tell me why the recipe for a fence post doesn't work and also why when I use the recipe in the crafting guide, I get a big blob?
20:00 asl97          NeueMann: what do you mean by big blob?
20:00 NeueMann       It's a block instead of a post and the texture overlay makes it look like a blob.
20:01 asl97          NeueMann: it's probably because your client is outdated
20:01 Mr_Narfh       ~hello
20:01 ShadowBot      Hello Mr_Narfh!
20:01 Mr_Narfh       ~what are you doing in my swamp?
20:01 NeueMann       OK, so I reinstalled my entire server because my client was outdated?
20:01 NeueMann       That nice :)
20:02 Mr_Narfh       ~What
20:02 Mr_Narfh       ~ping
20:02 ShadowBot      pong
20:02 NeueMann       What about the recipe change?
20:02 asl97          NeueMann: is your client 0.4.14?
20:02 Mr_Narfh       ~cmds
20:02 Mr_Narfh       ~john
20:02 Mr_Narfh       :L
20:02 asl97          i am pretty sure the drawtype was added before 0.4.14
20:02 NeueMann       No. 4.13
20:03 asl97          well, there's your problem with the fence
20:03 asl97          as for the recipe,  what changed?
20:03 Mr_Narfh       ~whois Miner_48er
20:03 ShadowBot      Mr_Narfh: realname (~Miner_48e@216.237.234.169) has been on server tepper.freenode.net since 04:03 PM, June 15, 2016 (idle for 22 seconds). miner_48er is on #minetest.
20:04 Miner_48er     ~whois Mr_Narfh
20:04 ShadowBot      Miner_48er: Mr_Narfh (326d417b@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.50.109.65.123) has been on server sinisalo.freenode.net since 02:36 PM, June 15, 2016 (idle for 53 seconds). mr_narfh is on #minetest.
20:04 Mr_Narfh       kek
20:05 Mr_Narfh       anyways to stormchaser3000s sever i g :3
20:05 asl97          NeueMann: what has changed about the recipe?
20:06 NeueMann       It's no longer <stick><stick><stick>//<stick><stick><stick>
20:06 NeueMann       Not for me anyways.
20:07 Mr_Narfh       CWz?
20:10 asl97          NeueMann: it was changed
20:10 asl97          you can read the history behind it here https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/pull/743
20:10 NeueMann       OK thanks.
20:11 asl97          tldr:  they added other type of fence and feel adding different sticks was overkill and change it to use wood for the sides
20:21 Mr_Narfh       stormchaser3000?
20:48 ElectronLibre  I don't know whether that was a good idea or not, but I tried compiling minetest with a fesh compilation of Irrlicht.
20:48 ElectronLibre  Unsurprisingly it failed.
20:49 swift110_      hmm
20:53 NeueMann       Anyone know how to remove a travelnet box?
20:57 asl97          NeueMann: couldn't you just dig it?
20:57 ElectronLibre  NeueMann: You can either dig it, pulverize it with an admin pick from maptools, destroy the mapblock it's in by modifying the map's database or ereasing your entire world.
20:57 NeueMann       I'm trying. Do I need a shovel? I've used an axe and my hands.
20:57 ElectronLibre  I would recommend digging though.
20:59 NeueMann       What's an admin pick?
20:59 NeueMann       I've tried a shovel, a pick-axe, my hands and it still won't come up.
20:59 asl97          NeueMann: another tool added in another mod
21:00 asl97          NeueMann: you need to ether be the owner of the travelnet or have the travelnet_remove privs
21:00 asl97          to dig it
21:00 NeueMann       I'm the owner and I just gave myself privs.
21:17 tonnerkiller   I played around a bit with 0..4.9 whcih I get thru apt-get, but now I want to compile a recent version. When I follow the instructions on github, will it compile the master branch or the stable branch? And will it only compile or also install everything system-wide?
21:21 ElectronLibre  tonnerkiller: That depends on what commands you execute
21:23 tonnerkiller   Well, I think I understood that I would always clone all branches (am I right?), but then the question is: Which commands to execute in order to get a stable binary?
21:24 asl97          tonnerkiller: git checkout 0.4.14
21:24 asl97          then the normal cmake make stuff
21:25 ElectronLibre  Then make install to install system-wide.
21:25 tonnerkiller   So instead of "git clone --depth 1 https://github.com/minetest/minetest.git" I would run "git checkout https://github.com/minetest/0.4.14"?
21:25 Calinou        http://www.quakejs.com/play?connect%20188.244.33.186:27960
21:25 Calinou        :D
21:25 ElectronLibre  tonnerkiller: You run both
21:26 ElectronLibre  One after the other, inside the clone you created with "git clone".
21:26 asl97          ElectronLibre: i am pretty sure the checkout wouldn't work if it was cloned with --depth 1
21:27 tonnerkiller   okay,so first clone, then checkout, the cmake and then make install? (Hope I got that right)?
21:27 tonnerkiller   so I leave the --depth 1...
21:27 ElectronLibre  asl97: It could indeed not work, but it's worth a try.
21:29 tonnerkiller   Okay, thank you very much so far,I'm off to the shell,I might come back soon with further questions ;)
21:39 TGminer        Calinou: kek q3, but my internet is horrible beyond measures (110 kb/s)
21:54 NeueMann       Got rid of my travelnet (used mese pickaxe) probably would've worked with Diamond.
22:20 NeueMann       how can you show location in 3.14?
22:22 whitephoenix   Someone with wiki access should edit the bouncy section on http://dev.minetest.net/Groups, it still says its broken
23:44 Fixer          QuakeJS is a port of ioquake3 to JavaScript with the help of Emscripten.
23:45 Fixer          jeez, so crazy these days
23:57 Mr_Narfh       CWz?