Time  Nick        Message
00:01 Fixer       :O
00:06 Fixer       one step closer...
09:24 IhrFussel   What is the best way to remove a text HUD shown to ALL players after X seconds?
09:31 Krock       IhrFussel, set a time and decrease it each "minetest.register_globalstep" until it's zero
09:32 Krock       and if that happens, loop through all players and do player:hud_remove
10:16 IhrFussel   Krock, thanks... if i define a lua variable as global can i use it in every script? or is it mod-restricted?
10:16 Krock       in every script that's loaded after the variable was defined, yes.
10:16 Krock       this means another mod would need to depend on it, to make sure this happens
10:19 IhrFussel   Krock, so let's say i have a mod for custom chat commands and a mod for the global step stuff..then i need to add in the global stuff mod my commands mod as depends.txt if i define the global variable inside the commands mod?
10:20 Krock       no. when you want to use a variable from "commands", you must add the dependendy "commands" to the "global step" mod
10:21 Krock       so you can use that vaiable in "global step"
10:21 IhrFussel   Okay thanks i'll try that now
10:22 Krock       the main mod does not have dependencies. all other mods depend on it instead (like "default")
10:46 IhrFussel   Krock, okay umm is there a way rto make HUD text ALWAYS appear correctly? Cause i set the position to x=0.1,y=0.5 and when the text is short it displays OK but when it's longer some of it is too far left
10:48 Krock       hmm.. I don't see a way to change the align to left/right or center :/
11:36 IhrFussel   HELP: My server suddenly crashes after a few minutes...NO error in log, load average is below 1.0 RAM is 70% free
11:41 Calinou     IhrFussel: server stalling I guess
11:42 xunto       Hm, guys, can i use core.handle_async(async_job,parameters,finished)(from menu_lua_api) in mods?
11:43 IhrFussel   Calinou, what does that mean? Too many objects?
11:47 nore        xunto: nope, it only works in mainmenu
11:51 xunto       And "while true do end" in minetest.on_join_player will cause server to freeze?
11:51 LazyJ       IhrFussel, a bug that has apparently existed in Minetest's engine for almost two years seems to have been aggravated by MT 0.4.14. Several servers are now experiencing what is being called the "stall glitch".
11:52 LazyJ       Minetest does not crash, no errors are logged, according to the system everything is fine but in-game, Minetest has come to a stand-still.
11:53 LazyJ       Here are some links related to the topic. All we can do for now, it seems, is to wait for someone to stumble across something that leads to a break through.
11:53 LazyJ
11:53 LazyJ       https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/4159
11:53 LazyJ
11:53 IhrFussel   LazyJ, I'm still using the same 0.4.13-dev from last time you logged on...and the server was extremely stable the recent days (mostly 20 h online without crash)...now i added a text hud and then suddenly this glitch started...but I'm not sure if it's really related to that
11:53 LazyJ       https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/4151
11:53 LazyJ
11:53 LazyJ       https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/4170
11:53 LazyJ
11:54 LazyJ       Sapier's patch has had mixed results but not enough to solve the problem. In at least one case, it may have made matters worse.
11:55 LazyJ       TenPlus1, who takes care of Xanadu, said the patch made things worse. He even reverted the server back to MT 0.4.13 and it didn't help.
11:56 LazyJ       Even the devs don't seem to have a bead on what is causing the problem.
11:56 LazyJ       Not all servers are affected or not as severely while others are going through a nightmare.
11:57 LazyJ       You're not alone but that is cold comfort during times like these. :(
11:57 LazyJ       That's all the input I can offer. No ideas myself.
11:57 LazyJ
12:00 IhrFussel   It ONLY happens when a player builds at the map generation limit it seems
12:01 IhrFussel   My limit is 6000, last line before crash 2016-06-05 13:58:53: ACTION[Server]: DARKNISS places node moreblocks:stone_tile at (5964,11,205)
12:02 IhrFussel   Crash before that: 2016-06-05 13:34:00: ACTION[Server]: DARKNISS places node moreblocks:stone_tile at (5964,19,192)
12:04 IhrFussel   I'll increase the limit a bit and see if it helps
12:05 LazyJ       If digging/placing at the limit is causing the crashes, extending the limit may not matter.
12:05 LazyJ       The limit, whatever it may be set to, may be the trigger.
12:06 LazyJ       There is a mod that is supposed to teleport players, that reach the limit, either back to spawn or to the opposite side of the world (as if they walked around a round world).
12:07 LazyJ       Another all-nighter for me so my brain is foggier than usual and is not comming up with a mod name to search for. Sorry.
12:08 LazyJ       DonBatMan may have created such a mod or maybe even TenPlus1.
12:08 LazyJ
12:09 IhrFussel   LazyJ, problem is the player is building there not just randomly placing or digging
12:09 LazyJ       Aye.
12:10 IhrFussel   Right now DARKNISS is offline and world doesn't crash so far
12:11 LazyJ       DARKNISS is currently the only player building at the limit; there will be others.
12:11 LazyJ       And I don't think DARKNISS is doing it to intentionally crash the server.
12:12 LazyJ       So finding those edge-of-world teleport mods may be the workable solution for now.
12:12 IhrFussel   LazyJ, of course not...like i said the server was super stable the recent days...no mod errors or weird crashes for almost 24 hours daily...and now suddenly this
12:13 * LazyJ     nods tired head.
12:14 LazyJ       Keep the limit at where you have it, install the teleport back mod(s) to prevent players building out there in the future, and chat with DARKNISS about moving his builds further in with WorldEdit.
12:15 LazyJ       Because as things are now, it does not seem that this problem will be fixed any time soon.
12:16 LazyJ
12:19 IhrFussel   I will try the increasing as test, IF it doesn't crash anymore cause of him building there it definitely is the problem
12:21 IhrFussel   Oh my G...he really DIRECTLY made the building's wall at the very last generated node row
12:23 IhrFussel   And it just crashed...i was just standing at the end of the generation limit
12:24 IhrFussel   Now the limit is 7000 let's see..i'll just stand at the building again
12:29 IhrFussel   Not 100% sure yet but it seems like that was indeed the real problem
12:29 Fixer       "Microsoft Removes the 'X' From Windows 10 Update Leaving No Way Out"
12:29 Fixer       lol
12:29 Fixer       so much bs those days
12:30 Krock       srsly
12:30 Krock       this is pretty much a dejà vu to me
12:31 Fixer       Krock: of what kind?
12:32 Krock       Fixer, I think you already wrote this in this channel like a few days ago
12:32 Fixer       Krock: yes, it was few weeks ago, this one is new
12:33 Fixer       wonder why so much push
12:33 Dairyfarm   It's 5:30am
12:33 Dairyfarm   oops sorry wrong window. ha
12:34 Derr        I remember seeing a mod similar to home decor but smaller
12:34 Derr        but I can't find it now :(
12:36 Fixer       xdecor?
12:38 Krock       Derr, one of those? http://krock-works.16mb.com/MTstuff/modSearch.php?st=0&at=0&q=deco
12:39 Derr        yes Fixer , Krock thankyou
12:39 Derr        I was looking for xdecor
15:02 IhrFussel   Can hud_add() only display one text hud at a time? I defined 2 different HUDs but when i try to display both via command the other disappears
15:19 IhrFussel   Nevermind, was a problem with hud_remove()
15:31 testus      Would it be possible to get 0.4.14 in here? https://apps.fedoraproject.org/packages/minetest
15:32 sfan5       yes
15:33 sfan5       you'll have to talk to the fedora package maintainer
15:41 Fixer       https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t27635Wxqbk
15:43 Fixer       ha
15:43 Fixer       fedora maintainer is bookwar, I've seen she on c55.me server years ago
15:43 Fixer       at 0.3 times
15:44 Fixer       or earlier
15:46 est31       https://pkgs.org/search/minetest
15:47 est31       debian looks good, openSUSE seems to require an update
15:47 est31       as well as fedora
15:47 est31       mageia looks good as well
15:48 MinetestBot 02[git] 04paramat -> 03minetest/minetest: Biome API: Add per-biome riverbed material and depth 13d24f384 https://git.io/voJIX (152016-06-05T16:37:02+01:00)
16:13 Dairyfarm   The latest git compiles with no problems on Fedora 22.
16:39 Fixer       est31: "debian looks good" was sarcasm? %) minetest_0.4.10+repack-1_amd64.deb
16:40 Calinou     real desktop users use testing, to the dismay of Debian Developers
16:40 Calinou     https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=minetest
16:40 Calinou     0.4.14 in stretch/sid
16:41 est31       real desktop users use LFS
16:41 est31       or butterflies
16:41 Fixer       real desktops users use desktop
16:41 testus      >implying
16:42 testus      real desktop users use desks
16:42 Dairyfarm   Real desktop users use recycled glass.
16:50 Krock       Real desktop users use Windows ME
17:31 MinetestBot 02[git] 04kwolekr -> 03minetest/minetest: Mapgen: Optimize biomemap creation by combining with generateBiomes 13d4457ef https://git.io/voJOI (152016-06-05T13:30:02-04:00)
17:57 AndDT       est31: ...or slackware
18:11 Fixer       Krock: NO
18:11 Fixer       Krock: W98SE is better
18:11 Fixer       Krock: WinNT is even more better
18:12 Fixer       W98SE for people who likes to crash
18:17 MinetestBot 02[git] 04paramat -> 03minetest/minetest_game: Mapgen: Add biome fields for riverbed node and depth 13b5ea7d1 https://git.io/voJsy (152016-06-05T19:15:50+01:00)
20:42 IhrFussel   Let's say i have a teleport command which displays the request as a text HUD to the target player and i call minetest.after() on it so that it disappears after 15 seconds again... what if 2 players at the same time use the command... will still both requests display to different people?
20:50 IhrFussel   Or more important is: I define the hud like this thud = gpd:hud_add({hud_definition}) and then do minetest.after(15,function() gpd:hud_remove(thud)) so i think it wouldnt work correctly since thud only stores ONE hud definition right?