Time  Nick           Message
00:03 FreeFull       Someone should write a Rust version
00:35 DI3HARD139     What does "Error	C2371	'int8_t': redefinition; different basic types	minetest	<directory here>	32	" Mean?
00:35 DI3HARD139     Only file version change was the irrlicht which I changed to 1.8.3
05:56 * cheapie      peeks in
05:57 cheapie        Quiet today...
05:57 cheapie        Well, at any rate, any thoughts/concerns/suggestions regarding this? https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=14464
05:57 cimbakahn      What's up with this ----> https://imgur.com/PEok1vA    Why can't i make changes to this?  I have it in singleplayer.
05:58 cimbakahn      Is there a workaround?
05:58 cheapie        cimbakahn: That looks like a mod blocking you from doing stuff.
05:58 sofar          villages mod. read the wiki :)
05:58 cimbakahn      Ok.
06:11 cimbakahn      I don't see anything about changing things in this world.  The only thing i saw was "experimental!"
07:08 Preuk          wow, too bad i missed paramat
08:43 paramat        hi Preuk
08:48 Preuk          hi :)
08:48 Preuk          that is pretty much what i intend to archeive
08:50 Preuk          I will take a look at these sheet options; if i can randomize thickness, this would be a great first step
08:52 Preuk          column_height_min column_height_max \o/
08:56 paramat        by setting column heights to extreme values you can end up filling a whole mapchunk solid
08:59 paramat        or with normal use: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=14345
08:59 Preuk          I just need something simple, to present strata with distinct embedded stuff depending on layer (scatter/blob + wherein should do the trick)
09:00 Preuk          if layers can have some random height it's great
09:00 Preuk          can't wait to add my iridium K-T layer ;)
12:50 cimbakahn      What's up with this ----> https://imgur.com/PEok1vA    Why can't i make changes to this?  I have it in singleplayer.  Is there a workaround?
12:54 Preuk          cimbakahn: have a look at mod documentation, grant yourself the rights needed to override greifing protection
12:54 Fixer          there are workarounds ofc
12:55 cimbakahn      I already did /grant singleplayer all
12:56 cimbakahn      https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=6953
12:58 Preuk          https://www.google.fr/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwiC-t64op3MAhUFVhoKHRSTDfcQFggqMAA&url=https%3A%2F%2Fforum.minetest.net%2Fviewtopic.php%3Ff%3D3%26t%3D13877&usg=AFQjCNFIGJ3mJDxge8ldNTeVquzL0zHdPA&bvm=bv.119745492,d.d2s
12:59 Preuk          https://github.com/Sokomine/mg_villages
12:59 Preuk          that's the right repo, the one from thread is wrong/outdated
13:02 Preuk          change config.lua line "ENABLE_PROTECTION"
13:02 Preuk          -- if set to true, players cannot modify spawned villages without buying the house from the village first
13:02 cimbakahn      Well.  I don't want to destroy anything.  I want to improve things.  For example:  I think the street would look better in obsidian brick.
13:02 Preuk          mg_villages.ENABLE_PROTECTION = true;
13:03 Preuk          going legit, you should buy a plot in this village to be able to modify common area (like roads) if i understand mod source
13:03 cimbakahn      Is this a different one from the one i have ----> https://github.com/Sokomine/mg_villages
13:04 Preuk          well, the message "... allow any modification" is not found in original village mod but in villages_mg
13:05 Preuk          github > "search this repository", enjoy
13:05 cimbakahn      I think i'll get rid of the one i have and install this one ----> https://github.com/Sokomine/mg_villages    BRB
13:06 Preuk          you look tyo already have this one (villages_mg)
13:06 Preuk          the original one, the mod you linked the forum thread for, did not feature any protection
13:16 cimbakahn      Ok.  I took out the mod i had and replaced it with the one you gave me here ----> https://github.com/Sokomine/mg_villages
13:17 cimbakahn      I typed /grant singleplayer all    Still can't modify the street.  How can i change things here?
13:18 cimbakahn      I will try above.
13:42 cimbakahn      ENABLE_PROTECTION is already set to true.  What now?
13:43 cimbakahn      Ok.  I will change it to false.
13:46 cimbakahn      I set it to false, and now i can make the street look better!  Thanks guys!
13:57 cimbakahn      Do i really need all these depandencies:
13:57 cimbakahn      handle_schematics / default / doors? / farming? / wool? / stairs? / cottages? / moretrees? / trees? / forest? / dryplants? / cavestuff? / snow? / moresnow / darkage? / ethereal? / deco? / metals? / grounds? / moreblocks? / bell? / mg?
13:58 cimbakahn      I am tired of snow in the game, so can i do without the snow ones?
14:09 rubenwardy     cimbakahn, the dependencies followed by ? are optional
14:09 cimbakahn      Ok.  Thank you!
14:12 sfan5          hey it actually worked without problems
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14:30 Preuk          without LF, will it mumble to himself forever? :)
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14:42 Preuk          well, messed up with my escape sequences i guees
14:42 Krock          feeding the bot with commands this way isn't possible
14:43 Preuk          when there are 2 in a room, this can be infinite fun
14:43 Krock          lol
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14:54 Preuk          who crafted her?
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14:59 LNJ2GO         !dev minetest.register_node
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15:02 LNJ2GO         !rev TSETENIM
15:02 MinetestBot    MINETEST
15:06 Krock          error: No such function "shutdown" in class "PilzAdam"
15:09 Preuk          !c 2+2
15:09 MinetestBot    4
15:10 Preuk          !wa 2e5 peanuts
15:13 Preuk          wolfram module not enabled :(
15:13 Krock          News 1699 posts, Builds 1999 posts - looks a bit similar
16:51 cimbakahn      Can anyone explain what Realtest is?  To me it just looks like they just added some item and retexturized others.
16:51 cimbakahn      items
16:52 Krock          it's more realistic
16:52 DI3HARD139     Its a realistic survival server if I recall. The mods are tweaked to make them harder to craft so you really have to work to get them
17:05 cimbakahn      Thank you Krock and DI3HARD139!
17:05 Krock          I didn't help at all <.<
17:05 cimbakahn      I am now looking at https://github.com/minetest-mods/plantlife_modpack
17:06 cimbakahn      It looks to me like dryplants, and ferns and cavestuff is included in this modpack.
17:06 Krock          yes they are
17:07 cimbakahn      So i am guessing i can use this one and take out those 3 seperate ones...  Am i correct?
17:08 sofar          configure: error: *** POSIX caps headers not found
17:08 sofar          gheghe
17:08 sofar          wheps, wrong windows!
17:08 cimbakahn      What i am saying is i already have dryplants, and ferns and cavestuff.  So i guess i could just take them out and replace it with this modpack.
17:10 sfan5          !server players:most
17:10 MinetestBot    sfan5: Xanadu | 98.166.90.48 | Clients: 29/40, 20/31 | Version: 0.4.13-dev / minetest | Ping: 94ms
17:19 DI3HARD139     cimbakahm: Essentially yes as its a modpack
17:31 cimbakahn      DI3HARD139: Thank you!
18:13 Calinou        rubenwardy, maybe we can up the CTF server to 25 slots
18:13 Calinou        there seems to be 1 reserved slot, hence 25...
18:13 Calinou        (I've never seen 20 players, only 19 at most)
18:14 Calinou        or if we don't do that, up it to 21 players so that there can be actual 10vs10
18:14 Calinou        and not 10vs9 :)
18:17 rubenwardy     Sure, Calinou
18:18 rubenwardy     I'm wary of making the match too crowded though
18:19 Calinou        yeah, I'll bump to 21 slots then, when I get to restarting the server
18:20 rubenwardy     I usually use ctf_queue_restart to give players a cance
18:20 rubenwardy     *chance
18:20 rubenwardy     that chat command means that the server will shutdown when the current match ends
18:20 Calinou        ah
18:20 rubenwardy     You should make an account and /grant all - but never play with that account
18:21 Calinou        ok
18:24 rubenwardy     bbl
18:29 Krock          I wonder if there will be somewhen different landscapes in CTF
18:30 Krock          I've only seen that jungle until now
18:30 Fixer          hmmm
18:30 Fixer          just teleport players to different position?
18:30 Calinou        Krock, maybe we can change it monthly or so
18:31 Fixer          just move spawn a little bit
18:31 Fixer          or even randomly
18:31 Krock          Calinou, or templates to use when the map is destroyed, so a new one can be loaded
19:05 catchin        i'm having a bit of trouble seeing or doing anything in a world
19:05 catchin        i installed minetest via homebrew
19:06 catchin        and for some i get a dark blue world shaded, and can only move arounf for no longer than 2 seconds
19:06 catchin        also my mouse pointer gets trapped in the minetest window
19:06 catchin        any idea how to fix?
19:07 cimbakahn      In the mg_villages mod, i am always getting snow.  Is there a way of turning off snow in the mod.
19:12 cimbakahn      Is this where you control the snow ----> https://imgur.com/pzbAiSg
19:13 aix            hi
19:13 aix            !server sfan
19:13 MinetestBot    aix: No results
19:13 aix            !server sfan5
19:13 sfan5          i dont have one
19:13 aix            uh
19:13 cimbakahn      Can i set it for NO snow?
19:14 aix            !server Calinou
19:14 MinetestBot    aix: No results
19:14 aix            I remember an op had one
19:14 aix            whi was it
19:14 aix            !server PilzAdam
19:14 MinetestBot    aix: No results
19:14 aix            Oh it was kaiza
19:15 aix            !server kaiza
19:15 MinetestBot    aix: No results
19:20 Fixer          cimbakahn, try looking into minetest.conf, mapgen options
19:20 Fixer          cimbakahn, or biome ones
19:20 cimbakahn      Is this where you control the snow ----> https://imgur.com/pzbAiSg
19:21 Fixer          cimbakahn, thats for snow in villages,yes
19:21 cimbakahn      Maybe i should change that 10 to a 0
19:22 cimbakahn      ?
19:22 Fixer          next option can help too i guess
19:22 Fixer          or set to 0
19:22 cimbakahn      I will change the 10 to a o      I can always change it back if things go screwy.
19:23 cimbakahn      0
19:24 aix            Which servers do you play on?
19:27 catchin        this is all i see btw http://i.imgur.com/MSvqg3t.png
19:27 cimbakahn      Still lots of snow......
19:28 catchin        no snow for me
19:28 catchin        just bluuuuue
19:35 Calinou        aix, I host the CTF server now
19:35 ElectronLibre  catchin, you're in deep water. I can see lines of nodes but you're under sea level so try to teleport above 0 of altitude.
19:36 Calinou        I used to have Calinou [Europe/Paris] but it's no longer up, it barely had any traffic
19:36 aix            i remember something with a huge map
19:36 Calinou        (I have the resources to host 3-4 Minetest servers now though :P)
19:37 aix            me too
19:38 catchin        ok thanks ElectronLibre will try that
19:41 catchin        ElectronLibre: i was able to teleport 5,5,5, but now it's just black
19:41 catchin        do i have my world setup wrong?
19:41 ElectronLibre  Now you're in concrete nodes
19:41 ElectronLibre  Try turning fly and noclip on, if you can.
19:42 ElectronLibre  You can also try /spawn but it might send you back in the ocean.
19:43 aix            !server Krock
19:43 MinetestBot    aix: No results
19:43 aix            !server krock
19:43 MinetestBot    ...
19:43 Krock          none
19:43 aix            it care about case?
19:43 Krock          !server apple
19:43 MinetestBot    Krock: AppleTree - Survival PvE & Build | pts.epixel-game.net | Clients: 10/50, 7/14 | Version: 1.0.0-alpha19-dev / epixel | Ping: 58ms
19:43 Krock          no it doesn't
19:49 cimbakahn      I only see 2 files that may have controls for snow:  config.lua & mapgen.lua
19:50 catchin        hmmm no privileges to change fly and noclip on
19:56 ElectronLibre  Then using /spawn is your only way out.
20:06 catchin        keeps saying there is not /spawn command =/
20:11 cimbakahn      How do i turn off snow in the mg_villages mod?  Is it in one of these 2 files ----> https://imgur.com/a/5t0lp
20:19 catchin        weird how if i log onto a remote server i don't have those problems
20:19 sofar          your own server, or someone else who runs the server?
20:19 catchin        remote = someone else
20:20 sofar          you have different permissions on every server
20:20 sofar          the servers are not linked
20:20 catchin        i feel like my local server is set up wrong
20:21 sofar          you probably need to grant yourself extra permissions
20:23 engineer-pearl Hey, so something weird has happened. I used to have the ability to use v5, v6, v7 and singlenode map generators. Now I have v5, v6, v7, flat, fractural, and valeys. what happened?
20:23 catchin        k sofar
20:23 catchin        how do i do that?
20:23 sfan5          uh
20:23 sfan5          you updated
20:23 sfan5          singlenode is still there but not in the menu
20:23 engineer-pearl I'd say so but...
20:24 engineer-pearl I manually upgraded.
20:24 engineer-pearl Is automatic updates included but not stated?
20:24 sfan5          automatic updates?
20:24 sfan5          minetest doesn't have that
20:24 cimbakahn      How do i turn off snow in the mg_villages mod?  Is it in one of these 2 files ----> https://imgur.com/a/5t0lp
20:28 Calinou        engineer-pearl, what OS do you use?
20:28 Preuk          is "sheet" ore tye suported by v6 magen?
20:28 Fixer          cimbakahn, did you try that options? You can ask Sokomine here
20:29 Preuk          i could get my ore in test v7 mas, but not v6
20:29 Preuk          maps
20:29 cimbakahn      I set the number 10 to 0 and it did not work.  I don't know what to try next.
20:30 cimbakahn      Sokomine: Are you here?
20:31 cimbakahn      Everytime i load mg_villages i get snow.  How do i turn it off in the villages?
20:32 engineer-pearl sorry, there was a minor problem and I had to refresh. But I'm using ubuntu.
20:32 cimbakahn      You should try Linuxmint Xfce 17.3 .
20:33 engineer-pearl I used a link to this page https://code.launchpad.net/~minetestdevs/+archive/ubuntu/daily-builds/+sourcepub/6235943/+listing-archive-extra, though that was when I actually downloaded it (last month it looks like)
20:33 Calinou        cimbakahn, Ubuntu is probably better than Linux Mint, which is known to be insecure (security updates arrive late)
20:33 Calinou        also software is a bit more recent on it, since it's released earlier. and there are non-LTS versions
20:33 Calinou        this is why I favour Ubuntu over the Linux Mint "train"
20:35 engineer-pearl I've heard mint is good for people who are really good with computers. I, however, am still getting there.
20:35 cimbakahn      I just remembered when i was at Cup of Linux 8 months ago.  Five of us where using Linuxmint.  Four was using cinnamon, and had several problems.  I was the only one using Xfce and i had no problems at all.
20:36 * sofar        on archlinux+xfce4
20:36 sofar          and I build Linux distros for a job
20:36 engineer-pearl but I thought I had the singlenode after the download... is it likely that I am just wrong, or did that kind of link set me up with automatic updates
20:37 cimbakahn      Sokomine: Are you here?
20:38 Calinou        I'll soon upgrade VPS to Ubuntu 16.04 \o/
20:38 Calinou        it'll be released tomorrow
20:38 Preuk          how does clust_size affect sheet ore_type?
20:38 Calinou        Java 8 and PHP 7 :)
20:38 Preuk          (well i learned to never trust distro for php, java and other dev related stuff)
20:40 cimbakahn      Linuxmint is partially based on trusty versions so should be more stable.
20:41 cimbakahn      I took my Linuxmint Xfce, and installed Lxde.  Logged out then logged back in using the new Lxde session i just created.  Then i got rid of almost all the Xfce stuff with exception of a couple of files.
20:42 cimbakahn      I still kept the minty goodness though.
20:42 cimbakahn      It is a real fast OS now.
20:43 Calinou        Linux Mint isn't any more stable than Ubuntu is
20:43 Markow         cimbakahn: LXDE is great, I'm using it now with openSUSE
20:43 Calinou        both should be as fast, too
20:44 Markow         I want to give LXQT a try
20:45 cimbakahn      Certain people in the Linux community was all excited about Lxqt, thinking it would replace Lxde.  What a joke!  Lxqt uses more resources than Lxde.
20:45 Markow         cimbakahn: Has more eye candy, that's why
20:48 cimbakahn      On distowatch there is 54 distros with Lxde, and 7 with Lxqt, so i don't think Lxde is going anywhere soon.  Lxde is probably going to be around for atleast 25 years.
20:50 cimbakahn      Some people think that you won't have alot of variety (when it comes to programs) with Lxde.  This is not true.  I can get and use almost everything that any Linux user uses.
20:50 cimbakahn      And people think you can't theme it well.  This is also not true.
20:51 Markow         Well, I'm quite satisfied with Lxde
20:52 cimbakahn      Sokomine: Are you here?  I desperately need your help.
20:54 cimbakahn      Everytime i load mg_villages i get snow.  How do i turn it off in the villages?  Is it in one of these 2 files ----> https://imgur.com/a/5t0lp
20:55 sfan5          damnit cimbakahn
20:55 sfan5          stop spamming your question
20:55 sfan5          also give me a link to the source
20:55 sfan5          ill help you
20:55 cimbakahn      Sorry!
20:56 cimbakahn      Ok.
20:56 cimbakahn      https://github.com/Sokomine/mg_villages
20:57 cimbakahn      Sorry that i am being a pest.
20:58 sfan5          cimbakahn: mg_villages.artificial_snow_probability = nil     should do it
20:59 cimbakahn      Which file is that in?  Is it in config.lua or mapgen.lua or something else?
20:59 sofar          config.lua
20:59 cimbakahn      Ok.
21:04 cimbakahn      It did it alright!  Now all i see is gravel and stone.  It needs dirt with grass badly.
21:04 cimbakahn      That is going to take alot of work.
21:06 Atomicaton     I only have about 5 min after I create a server to connect to it before I just get time out errors
21:11 cimbakahn      sfan5: Thank you for trying to help!  I am going to go now.  Have a great day!
21:22 catchin        anyone know where minetest.conf goes on mac homebrew installs?
21:36 Calinou        catchin, "locate minetest.conf"?
21:36 Calinou        or system search using Finder :P
21:41 Preuk          i'm testing some modded blocks on default game but for some reason i can't prime TNT, any clue?
21:42 sofar          how are you priming it?
21:43 swift110       sup yall
21:43 Preuk          tried fire block, flint&steel
21:43 Preuk          found a workaround, adding leaves to have natural propagation
21:44 Preuk          gunpowder doesn't work either
21:47 Preuk          must be y version, it works fine on stable
21:48 sofar          Preuk: punch tnt with a torch
21:48 sofar          Preuk: or use gunpowder
21:48 sofar          is that using minetest_game-git?
21:49 Preuk          a nighly for windows from last week
21:49 Preuk          trch works fine, thx
21:49 sofar          can you ignite gunpowder?
21:50 Preuk          with torch yes
21:50 Preuk          with flint&steel i can only ignite leaves
21:51 sofar          interesting, could be a bug
21:51 sofar          maybe raise a github ticket
21:52 sofar          I made a note for myself, will check later as wlel
21:52 Preuk          changeset 15e1dcc
22:54 catchin        thx Calinou did not note about locate cmd