Time Nick Message 00:00 sofar but, linux can do that 00:00 LinuxGuy2020 right....ok 02:51 Out`Of`Control Hi, how can i see if minetestmapper is doing anything? 04:38 cimbakahn Does anyone know who is in charge of this server ----> buildersworld.telesight…:30003 04:52 cimbakahn There is this minetest server. I never see anyone here that is in charge. People are taking blocks out of buildings, putting lava in buildings, attaching blocks on buildings.... 04:52 cimbakahn Putting buildings right in front of buildings and going crazy with lava and water. 04:55 cimbakahn I believe it is all being done by 1 person (Tuba) and their friends. They really need a white list on this server. 04:55 cimbakahn It is a creative server, not PVP. 04:57 cimbakahn I am getting tired of cleaning up all the damage. This was a very nice world until Tuba and her friends got here. 05:24 sofar :w 06:13 Calinou I tried building minetestmapper using VS2015, to no avail, even when including dirent.h, getoph.h and unistd.h (found from Stack Overflow :p) 06:13 Calinou also implemented usleep for db-sqlite3.cpp 06:13 Calinou but the linker has an error :( 06:13 Calinou LNK2019 unresolved external symbol __imp_gdImagePng referenced in function "private: void __cdecl TileGenerator::writeImage(class std::basic_string,class std::allocator > const &)" (?writeImage@TileGenerator@@AEAAXAEBV?$basic_string@DU?$char_traits@D@std@@V?$allocator@D@2@@std@@@Z) 06:14 Calinou (I do have libgd configured and compiled, and it's set in CMake, which doesn't complain) 06:22 Out`Of`Control Calinou: i install libgd-dev 06:23 Out`Of`Control Calinou there are many forks of mtmapper 06:23 Calinou I tried using Cygwin, but CMake doesn't like some child process and causes my Cygwin to become stuck 06:26 Out`Of`Control i compiled https://github.com/Rogier-5/minetest-mapper-cpp.git works fine 07:41 Calinou_ http://10fastfingers.com/speedtests/generate_screenshot_result/1_113_564_0_0_105_0_98.93_1744_162346 07:41 Calinou_ 113 WPM! 07:41 Calinou_ try to beat me, http://10fastfingers.com/typing-test/english 08:04 Krock 52 WPM.. I'd be faster if that were complete sentences 08:05 Krock at least better than 3/4 of all users 08:57 germanuel24 Can someone explain dtime to me? Does it depend on the dedicated_server_step setting? And if yes does it mean 5 seconds is 10 x dtime @ 0.5 sec steps? 09:04 Krock the dtime in the global step function is very fast, it doesn't seem to depend on the dedicated_server_step setting 09:08 germanuel24 So how long is 1 x dtime? Like when i do aloop and want to increase a variable each time dtime gets called 09:10 Krock dtime is the time from the last time on_globalstep was callde in seconds 09:10 Krock depending on lag/cpu it happens after 0.1ms or after 0.5s 09:11 germanuel24 Oh so it alwayws means seconds since last global_step() call? Alright 09:11 Krock yep 09:13 Calinou_ Krock, are you sure you're not running a singleplayer game? 09:13 Calinou_ globalstep is much more frequent in singleplayer, I think 09:14 Krock Calinou_, only tested in singleplayer :3 09:14 Krock no idea how it's in server mode 09:14 Calinou_ Krock, did you see my message about minetestmapper? :( 09:14 Krock where? 09:15 Calinou_ see PM 09:22 greeter hmm, started a new local game and there's an obscene amount of resources present everywhere i've looked 10:47 yyt16384 Does anyone know what the ABM neighbors field means? 10:47 yyt16384 Is it only 6 adjacent nodes, or all nodes in 3*3*3 area? 10:47 Calinou yyt16384, neighbors is used so that the ABM triggers only if the node is next to a neighbor node 10:47 Calinou I think it's 3x3x3 area 10:48 yyt16384 The code says it's 3*3*3, but it doesn't work in game 10:51 yyt16384 Ah, it seems that gloopblocks only turns lava into obsidian/stone when there are directly adjacent water nodes 11:12 PilzAdam yyt16384, the ABM checks the whole 3×3×3 area, but gloopblocks does extra checks in the ABM function to ensure that there is a direct neighbor 11:13 yyt16384 Yeah, I have figured it out 11:42 Calinou Kodi == Krock of dingo instestines 11:42 Calinou on ##hardware :D 11:42 Krock ok. 12:39 MinetestBot 02[git] 04SmallJoker -> 03minetest/minetest: mainmenu: Tidy up logic in is_server_protocol_compat() (#3997) 13d82c5da https://git.io/vwkYy (152016-04-15T14:37:09+02:00) 13:03 Calinou https://duckduckgo.com/?q=irrlicht+v3s16&atb=v5 13:03 Calinou hahaha, first results are all Minetest-related 13:04 est31 thats your duck bubble 13:04 est31 oh i have it too 13:04 est31 our bubble 13:04 Calinou DDG doesn't bubble searches 13:04 Calinou (except if you use region filtering, which I do) 13:04 est31 well there you have proof :) 13:05 est31 or, minetest is the most popular user of irrlicht 13:05 est31 thats good and bad 13:05 est31 good because its a metric where minetest ends as "most popular" 13:05 est31 bad because we are the only dudes who will ever find any bugs with it :/ 13:10 Calinou yeah, like, animation blending is still broken in Irrlicht 13:12 est31 or that you can't set an icon for your window 13:13 est31 in fact you can, but only on windows but in a very horrible way 13:13 est31 irrlicht looks for a .ico file at a hardcoded path relative from PWD or the executable file (dont know anymore) 13:13 est31 if it exists, it sets that as the icon 13:14 est31 that's not how a library should behave 13:50 Telesight I do have a feeling that the serverlist is a little bit cheated ... 13:51 est31 agree 13:51 est31 !players most 13:51 est31 !server players most 13:51 MinetestBot est31: No results 13:51 est31 !server players:most 13:51 MinetestBot est31: World Of TNT | 80.240.216.69:30011 | Clients: 90/127, 49/109 | Version: 0.4.13.7-dev / tnt | Ping: 59ms 13:51 Calinou !server players:most 13:51 MinetestBot Calinou: World Of TNT | 80.240.216.69:30011 | Clients: 90/127, 49/109 | Version: 0.4.13.7-dev / tnt | Ping: 59ms 13:51 Calinou lol 13:52 Telesight Well I dont care what admins do 13:52 Calinou seriously, we should ban those servers on sight 13:52 est31 sfan5 can do it 13:52 Telesight TBut some are trying hard to get a working server ... 13:52 Telesight TAnd a good working serverlist helps with that ... 13:52 nrzkt 90 players is impossible in MT currently 13:53 nrzkt except if you don't have any ABM or SAO except players :p 13:53 nrzkt and many memory 13:53 sfan5 ayy lmao 13:53 Calinou you'll probably hit CPU limit way before 13:53 sfan5 they get a ban 13:53 Telesight Thank you in name of all hardworking admins ;-) 13:54 est31 i cant even connect to that server 13:54 Telesight No full ... 13:54 sfan5 https://github.com/minetest/master-server/commit/b3662901188fe1139603d5cf0874dcd4674a454f 13:54 sfan5 wat 13:55 Calinou that sucks 13:55 Calinou by that logic, games shouldn't have ban lists 13:55 Calinou ShadowNinja, I am disappoint... 13:56 sfan5 the argument is dumb too 13:56 sfan5 maybe i want to ban someone from the serverlist but not from my personal server 13:56 tpe Having switched from Minecraft to Minetest because of distrust in and hatred for Microsoft, it's disturbing that MC is selling 10,000 copies a day. wtf. All those kids that are addicted to it are just going to grow up to become the next generation of locked-in Microsoft customers. 13:56 sfan5 also what about people just fetching /list 13:57 Calinou tpe, only 10,000 copies a day? ;) 13:57 Fixer tpe, no troll 13:57 Fixer triggered.png 13:57 Calinou to be honest, Minecraft isn't really locked-in right now, it's still cross-platform 13:58 Calinou most modding is still going on 13:58 Fixer and if MS locks up something, well, pirates solve everything 13:58 Fixer *cough* 13:58 tpe As a Linux gamer I was instantly concerned as to how much longer that would be the case. 13:58 Calinou unauthorized Minecraft copying is still going on, Fixer :P 13:59 tpe But for me, Minetest is thankfully giving me my fix. ;) 13:59 Fixer Calinou, do you play MC? at least rarely? i have some question about servers community... where is it? :/ 13:59 Calinou no 14:00 Calinou there is no official public server list in Minecraft... imagine the mess 14:00 Fixer i've joined few popular MC servers to look at it, and... wtf? 14:00 Fixer 40 players in survival 14:00 Calinou only 40? :) 14:00 Fixer nobody around 14:00 Fixer NOBODY 14:00 Calinou yeah, the map is huge 14:00 Fixer desert 14:00 tpe There is but one thing I miss. Chunky obviously can't render MT worlds, and never will. 14:00 Calinou so people often go far away from spawn 14:00 Fixer where is cities? 14:00 Fixer NO ROADS 14:00 Calinou Minecraft multiplayer is often singleplayer with chat 14:00 Fixer EVERYTHING GRIEFED 14:00 Calinou tpe, we lack 3D map viewers/renderers indeed 14:01 est you shouldn't pirate Minecraft. That's illegal. Rather install minetest 14:01 Fixer in minetest, you can expect city near spawn, roads, and it is easy to find staff and people 14:01 Fixer est, and it is installed, just curious wth wrong with mc people 14:01 tpe Yeah. Wouldn't mind something along the lines of dynmap too, but I can understand why it's tricky with that lack of any realistic height limit. 14:01 sfan5 !server World Of TNT 14:01 MinetestBot sfan5: No results 14:02 Fixer maybe it is different survivals 14:02 Fixer MT has soft one, and MC hardcore one 14:02 Fixer no roads, no people %) 14:02 Fixer no cities 14:02 Fixer so strange 14:02 Fixer is it normal for MC? 14:03 Telesight What is hardcore survival ... 14:03 Preuk Fixer: vanilla server ? 14:03 Calinou no, lots of survival servers have cities 14:03 Calinou maybe Fixer means hardcore PvP 14:03 Fixer and if i found something like city... nobody is around 14:03 Calinou hardcore PvP is PvP where griefing/stealing are allowed 14:04 Fixer hard to say 14:04 Fixer Calinou, cities with actual people inside? 14:04 Calinou not sure :P probably all people who built an house in the city left the server or were banned :) 14:05 Calinou tpe, we have a LeafletJS-based map browser that a few servers have 14:05 Fixer also, found server with some "towny" mode, ok, looks like city survival, but nobody is f-ing around, and lots of grief :/ 14:05 Telesight Ok then I have hardcore ..;-) 14:05 Fixer it has people, but they are million nodes away, probably 14:05 Fixer from each other 14:05 Fixer %) 14:05 est that server is very interesting 14:06 est apparently somebody has managed to create player bots who place tnt and make it explode 14:06 Calinou I wish Minetest had lightweight mobs :/ 14:06 Fixer Calinou, client-side lua! 14:06 Calinou thinking about creating such a mod, but I don't see many optimizations possible in PilzAdam's simple_mobs 14:06 Preuk public server are often lame ... only private (or at least semi-privete) servers are fun for a few weeks at most ; then everything is stale and people leave 14:06 Calinou Fixer, yes, that could move some parts to the client, like animation decision which ought to be done entirely on the client 14:07 Calinou Preuk, public Minecraft is as good as public CS: GO 14:07 Preuk Calinou: and client-side i18n ... foudn an old ticket about it 14:07 Calinou 20% of AFK players, 40% of noobs, 20% of cheaters, 20% of players who kill the AFK players and nobody else 14:07 Preuk Calinou: dunno, only play CS 1.6 :) 14:10 Fixer Calinou, lol 14:13 serp is there a log on a server of whether mods loaded and if not any errors? 14:14 serp there is a /var/log/mintest/mintest.log but it only shows people joining/leaving 14:15 sfan5 if there's any errors minetest just exits 14:22 Fixer your country is banned from this server 14:22 Fixer okay 14:25 tpe Again this one might be a bit tricky (different blocks, etc.) but is there any way to reliably convert MC worlds to MT? 14:32 Krock https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=6007 for simple structures 14:32 Krock https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=13709 for whole maps [linux only] 14:32 Krock ^tpe 14:38 greeter cool 14:48 tpe Krock: Nice! I will give that a go. 14:48 Krock !nexr 14:48 Krock !next 14:48 MinetestBot Another satisfied customer. Next! 14:49 greeter how serious are you about that next? :-P 14:49 Krock deadly serious 14:50 greeter alright. well i just need a yes/no. i once read that it's possible to generate a map of a given world. is that correct? 14:51 Krock yes/no 14:52 Krock what exactly do you mean? once you have a world seed it's easy to reproduce a landscape 14:53 greeter i meant like an image file containing a scale overview map of the surface of the world 15:01 Krock !mod image 15:01 MinetestBot Krock: Image Loader [imageloader] by kaeza - https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=6751 15:01 Krock ^ greeter, something like this? 15:16 fourthalaughs WHY WHEN I FLASH SOMEONE, IT’S LIKE I JUST BRUSHED SOMEONE’S FACE WITH A F%#! NAPKIN FROM A LITTLE KID’S BIRTHDAY PARTY, BUT WHEN I GET FLASHED, IT’S LIKE SOME BIG BROLIC BLACK DUDE NAMED F%#@ REQUIS SHOVES A F#@! BEDSHEET OVER MY HEAD AND PROCEEDS TO SKULL F@!# ME?????? 15:23 greeter Krock: i don't know. that looks more like it's for creating a portion of a world, or perhaps an entire world, from an image. i'm looking to do the reverse 15:23 Krock minetestmapper? 15:26 Krock duh. 15:26 greeter ah alrighty then :-D 15:29 Requis *Requis does not approve* 15:29 greeter hmm? 15:51 greeter ah, nothing like opening a 60 meter chasm with just one box of tnt 16:04 Preuk greeter: which mod? 16:05 greeter well i'm using a few mods, travelnets, mesecons, and mapfix 16:33 greeter bbs, apparently i'm going somewhere 19:36 Out`Of`Control anyone got colors.txt with columnia mod colors? 19:39 ElectronLibre Out`Of`Control, I've got this, it was generated a while ago though, not sure if it has everything : http://zerobin.qbuissondebon.info/?8d65158ae3269e28#1gVUEH7EAARdgcY2yykBQWxNaByWq0hG0ko7YYNgpM8= 19:46 technics hi, is there any way to find out the very first join date of a player? 19:47 technics Out`Of`Control, good question i should check my own colors.txt...totally forgot about this 19:52 sfan5 you can generate colors.txt files btw 19:52 Out`Of`Control sfan5: how? 19:53 Out`Of`Control sfan5: i miss like 2k 19:53 Out`Of`Control ElectronLibre: thank you 19:53 sfan5 Out`Of`Control: https://github.com/minetest/minetestmapper/blob/master/autogenerating-colors.txt 19:54 Out`Of`Control sfan5: thank you 19:56 MinetestBot 02[git] 04sfan5 -> 03minetest/minetestmapper: Fix failing travis build (apt-get update missing) 13464afcb https://git.io/vwI2r (152016-04-15T21:55:27+02:00) 19:57 Out`Of`Control sfan5: not all mods are in "minetest_game" should i add them too? 19:57 sfan5 Out`Of`Control: just set MTGAME_PATH to the path to your mods folder 19:58 Out`Of`Control sfan5: ok 19:58 ElectronLibre technics, that data should be in minetest.auth_table[playerName].. which is not even documented. 19:59 technics ElectronLibre, table? in the database? not auth.txt? 20:00 ElectronLibre The table is generated from auth.txt, and reloaded using minetest.auth_reload() 20:00 ElectronLibre That's all I know, all that I've learnt from mods which use it. 20:01 technics thanks for this really interesting information 20:01 technics will try to find out more about this 20:05 Out`Of`Control technics: what if you look when /players/UserName was created? 20:06 technics Out`Of`Control, i didnt found a way sadly 20:07 technics date -r shows the wrong date and stat provides no informations about creation 20:31 DoyleChris trying to increase the amount of light coming from the moreblocks glow glass. but when i change it in the .lua it dosent change in game. 20:32 Out`Of`Control sfan5: does it generate colors.txt when i run minetestmapper? 20:33 Out`Of`Control i can't find avgcolors.py 20:33 DoyleChris i have increased the light_source number but nothing increased 20:42 DoyleChris How do i increase the amount of light out of a Node 20:46 DoyleChris How do i increase the amount of light out of a Node 20:46 sfan5 Out`Of`Control: the source of avgcolors.py is in the .txt file 20:47 sfan5 also have you read the instructions 20:47 Out`Of`Control last line 5 steps? 20:49 Out`Of`Control where is this mod? 2) Add the dumpnodes mod to Minetest 20:49 Krock DoyleChris, node definition: light_source = , 20:50 Krock DoyleChris, going higher than default.LIGHT_MAX will have no effect 20:50 Krock and that's 14. 20:51 Out`Of`Control sfan5: mod is in autogenerating-colors.txt? 20:55 DoyleChris i set it to 14 and no change, but i was looking at mini_sun mod and that is set to 14 and it is signaficantly brighter 21:00 Out`Of`Control sfan5: i figure out, will test out later ty 21:16 Calinou https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=14421 21:16 Calinou alert! our shift key disappeared! 21:16 Fixer Calinou, intruder in the house 21:16 Calinou ESR said on all-smalls writing: "Alan Cox can get away with it, but you can't." 21:18 Krock Shift it! 21:18 Krock "e game (they are just joking ;). log" 21:18 Krock Guess what's wrong 21:18 Calinou also, greylisted servers on Minetest... good luck :/ 21:19 Fixer CAPS IT 21:19 Fixer Calinou, greylisted? 21:20 Krock for incompatible servers 21:20 Fixer in what way? 21:20 Calinou actually it's even whitelisted, you can't join if you don't have the password 21:20 Fixer aj 21:20 Calinou graylisted would be, you can join but not build, and you need to apply to build 21:20 Krock Fixer, minetset forks with changes protocols as example 21:21 Krock oh. that way graylisted. 21:23 Fixer hmm 21:23 Fixer it is uptime 38600 and ESM is not dying, hmm 21:23 Fixer probably some really "final" fix helped 21:24 Calinou Krock, btw I'm following Qt 5/C++ tutorials from OpenClassrooms :p 21:25 Krock Calinou, is it easy to understand? 21:25 Calinou it's ok, not easy, but not ridiculously hard either 21:25 Calinou I have basic OOP knowledge, so that helps 21:27 * Fixer needs to read that python tutorial 21:27 Calinou the latest version of PyQt for Windows is still built against Python 3.4 :/ 21:28 Fixer ._. 21:33 DI3HARD139 Sucks that the mibbit client is banned from Inchra. 21:34 Krock then use a real client 21:35 DI3HARD139 I am. I'm using HexChat. Was looking for a DirectX overlayed IRC client so I dont have to keep doing alt+tab 21:35 DI3HARD139 when playing other games