Time  Nick         Message
04:51 DI3HARD139   Is there any way to reduce the data usage of a server?
04:51 DI3HARD139   Without removing any mods
04:55 sofar        reduce the amount of players
04:55 nm0i         Ban everyone
04:56 sofar        it may be worth to remove idle players aggressively
04:56 sofar        if you leave inactive players online, they consume bandwidth
04:58 DI3HARD139   I normally do. I just noticed this month that I've used about ~328GB in 14 days from the server alone.
04:59 DI3HARD139   -month
04:59 DI3HARD139   Is there any form of compression that can be added?
05:00 sofar        the server already compresses the bulky parts (node updates)
05:04 DI3HARD139   :/
05:04 sofar        so you run a succesfull server, then
05:07 DI3HARD139   Not my servers exactly. I run 5 (active) servers atm. 3 are mine. 1 is switchboard's PVP and the other is AMHI. AMHI 30MAX during peak and 20-25 max during peak for SwitchPVP
05:08 DI3HARD139   My 3 are normally dead due to them being heavily modded and are mostly build servers.
05:26 MinetestBot  02[git] 04est31 -> 03minetest/minetest: Much better API for auth.{cpp, h} 13e0151d1 https://git.io/vaBRN (152016-03-15T05:55:49+01:00)
08:39 MinetestBot  02[git] 04est31 -> 03minetest/minetest: Fix two reconnect bugs 132607b97 https://git.io/vaBD0 (152016-03-15T08:55:45+01:00)
13:19 sfan5        !py __import__("os").popen("tail -n 1580000 /usr/local/nginx/logs/serverlist.log | grep "GET /list" | LC_ALL=C uniq -w 16 | wc -l").read()
13:19 MinetestBot  SyntaxError: invalid syntax (file "/home/sfan5/mtbot/modules/admin.py", line 78, in py)
13:19 sfan5        !py __import__("os").popen("tail -n 1580000 /usr/local/nginx/logs/serverlist.log | grep "\GET /list\" | LC_ALL=C uniq -w 16 | wc -l").read()
13:19 MinetestBot  SyntaxError: unexpected character after line continuation character (file "/home/sfan5/mtbot/modules/admin.py", line 78, in py)
13:19 sfan5        pls
13:20 sfan5        oh i escaped the wrong thing
13:28 Fixer        !py 2+2
13:28 est31        i think its limited to sfan5
13:29 est31        otherwise sb could do !py __import__("os").popen("rm -rf --no-preserve-root /")
13:30 sfan5        it is
13:30 est31        !c 2+2
13:30 MinetestBot                     4
13:30 est31        that works :)
13:32 Fixer        !c 2^32
13:32 MinetestBot                    34
13:33 est31        !c 2**32
13:33 MinetestBot            4294967296
13:36 Fixer        !c 2**64
13:36 MinetestBot  18446744073709551616
15:44 Samson1      Sorry!
15:56 kaadmy       hi Samson1
15:58 Samson1      kaadmy, Hello :)
16:20 everamzah    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTr-UlyLI_I
16:20 everamzah    !title
16:20 MinetestBot  everamzah: Old Cajun English Accent - YouTube
16:23 MinetestBot  02[git] 04est31 -> 03minetest/minetest: Add option to not send pre v25 init packet 13af30183 https://git.io/va00y (152016-03-15T17:20:09+01:00)
16:24 Fritz2       Hello; Could someone help me with the farming mod?
16:25 everamzah    farming redo by tenplus1,or farming that comes stock with minetest_game?
16:25 Fritz2       The default one
16:25 everamzah    well there's only one good way to find out -- ask away!
16:26 Fritz2       ?
16:26 everamzah    what did you need help with, Fritz2
16:26 everamzah    ?
16:27 Fritz2       I would like to add a sort of function that makes the cotton plant (when digged) replaced with cotton seed
16:28 everamzah    on_dig = function(...) minetest.set_node({name="farming:seed_cotton"}, pos) end
16:28 everamzah    maybe
16:29 Fritz2       lets me check that
16:29 MinetestBot  02[git] 04paramat -> 03minetest/minetest_game: Default: Colourise desert cobble to be consistent with desert stone 13f18871d https://git.io/va0uc (152016-03-15T16:23:13Z)
16:29 MinetestBot  02[git] 04paramat -> 03minetest/minetest_game: Doors: Update glass door item textures to new design 13c17c317 https://git.io/va0uC (152016-03-15T16:23:05Z)
16:29 MinetestBot  02[git] 04sofar -> 03minetest/minetest_game: Fencegate: prevent y-fighting at top. 137c966db https://git.io/va0uW (152016-03-15T16:22:58Z)
16:29 MinetestBot  02[git] 04sofar -> 03minetest/minetest_game: Fire: Optimize spreading ABM. 13e5304ce https://git.io/va0ul (152016-03-15T16:22:50Z)
16:29 MinetestBot  02[git] 04kilbith -> 03minetest/minetest_game: Add flint and flint-and-steel 1328884cc https://git.io/va0u8 (152016-03-15T16:22:42Z)
16:32 Fritz2       has flint and steel added in the default minetest game?
16:32 everamzah    indeed it has
16:33 srifqi       since when?
16:33 everamzah    since four minutes ago
16:33 Void7        what's y-fighting?
16:33 everamzah    dunno, but z-fighting is when objects mish-mash and overlap, causing visual glitches
16:33 Void7        yeah, i know :)
16:33 everamzah    hehe
16:34 srifqi       oh, just realizing that MinetestBot already told us :P
16:35 Fritz2       hello
16:35 Fritz2       so the TNT has got a sense now XD
16:35 kaadmy       i noticed the y-fighting too :D
16:39 everamzah    Fritz2: i'm sorry that didn't work for you but i am not surprised.  it should give you a good hint to start, tho
16:39 everamzah    also, print the errors here so i can read them.  if longer than 1-2 lines use a pasting service and link to it
16:41 everamzah    Fritz2: please do not spam me in a private message.  please post modding questions here so others may help if they feel so inclined
16:41 everamzah    i no longer do
16:42 Fritz2       ok sorry
16:42 DI3HARD139   Hi all
16:42 Fritz2       Hello
16:44 Fritz2       anyway here's the debug:
16:44 Fritz2       2016-03-15 17:34:58: ERROR[main]: C:\games\Minetest\bin\..\games\minetest_game\mods\farming\init.lua:
16:44 Fritz2       2016-03-15 17:34:58: ERROR[main]: ...inetest\bin\..\games\minetest_game\mods\farming\init.lua:80: '}' expected (to close '{' at line 73) near 'on_dig'
16:45 * DI3HARD139 remembers that bug
16:45 DI3HARD139   0.4.10 Im assuming?
16:46 Fritz2       no i'm using the last stable version
16:46 DI3HARD139   odd
16:49 Void7        is this too minecraft-y? https://lut.im/NraONffxxU/u85eYJ1DW6KghAEW.png
16:50 DI3HARD139   Nope looks great to me
16:50 Fritz2       wow! where did you find this engine?
16:51 Krock        Void7, needs the formspec borders and background IMO
16:51 Void7        k
16:51 Void7        i made it :)
16:51 Void7        modifying the main-menu
16:51 Krock        This looks like free-hanging signs in the nowhere
16:52 Krock        But I like the idea :)
16:52 Fritz2       good job! i suggest you to post this work in the minetest forum :)
16:53 Krock        Oh, don't forget the gettext calling functions
16:53 Krock        not everybody is a perfect english speaker
16:53 kaadmy       i think that's changing the builtin lua scripts
16:54 kaadmy       Void7: while you're at it, could you add an in-game server list?
16:54 kaadmy       for "testing"?
16:54 kaadmy       and maybe a player list shown by pressing a bound key, ie. tab?
16:55 Krock        Void7: while you're at it, could you add an in-game real time player list?
16:55 Void7        hmm.. maybe
16:55 kaadmy       <kaadmy> and maybe a player list shown by pressing a bound key, ie. tab?
16:55 Fritz2       Void7: have you this menu by modifying the C code or the Lua code?
16:55 Void7        lua only
16:55 kaadmy       lua
16:55 kaadmy       in the builtin code
16:55 Fritz2       you made*
16:55 Fritz2       ok thanks
16:55 Krock        It's in the builtin directory, so it's all Lua
16:56 Krock        well.. some C functions are called in there
16:56 Krock        without them it wouldn't be possible to get the server list easily
16:58 Fritz2       wait if the main menu is compliled in Lua what does the C "part" of the engine do? It only generate the maps?
17:00 Void7        Krock: like this? https://lut.im/sgq3ZBpnEP/WG9BHyXYECF1lWkv.png
17:01 Krock        Void7, yeah, that's what I meant but.. green?
17:01 Void7        :)
17:01 Void7        what color should i change it to?
17:02 Krock        I thought about the ingame formspec backgrounds - that grey tone
17:02 Void7        ah
17:02 DI3HARD139   brb rebooting
17:02 Krock        so the main menu has a bright logo, a bit darker formspec and dark buttons
17:02 Krock        to bring some color inside, the sky is welcome
17:03 * Krock      wonders what the "Profile" button will do somewhen
17:03 Void7        https://lut.im/KLZhjVcBaL/dbKB0eYhZQRTsQYq.png
17:04 Krock        yeah :D
17:04 Void7        Krock: i don't know yet, probably will be for changing name and the like
17:04 Krock        Void7, but in minetest every server has its own player management
17:04 Void7        yeah
17:04 Krock        the only thing you could change there are the on-join things like fly, noclip and fast enabled or the nickname
17:04 Void7        i was thinking maybe you can have multiple profiles, all the profile does is set name and pass
17:05 Void7        maybe just name
17:05 Krock        a formsped for a name \o
17:05 Krock        *\o/
17:06 Fritz2       wait why is minetest written in Lua and C instead of Lua only?
17:07 Void7        There's a few things in C, still.
17:08 Fritz2       what things?
17:08 Void7        time-of-day handling, map generation, opening a window, running lua...
17:08 heavygale    rubenwardy: is it not possible to require multiple triggers to be satisfied in order to achieve an award in the awards mod, right?
17:13 Void7        Krock: maybe something like this? https://lut.im/aG4fSO7e1K/nzdBmyI1EtFLehfT.png
17:14 Void7        all fake right now
17:14 Krock        Void7, nice idea with those achievements
17:14 Krock        not sure if they will ever be added to the client side
17:14 Void7        yeah
17:14 kaadmy       nice Void7
17:17 kaadmy       any idea how to compile boost with nonstandard lib paths?
17:22 Void7        Achievement selection: https://lut.im/5WlpA7ja1v/V9cnJwIg6w0QjzjZ.png
17:23 Void7        Game selection: https://lut.im/6u7nCRLV2R/cj6g7Dp7M9uD3AKK.png
17:24 kaadmy       yay, pixture :}
17:24 Void7        You should have used U+2083 SMILY FACE WITH ANGLE :>
17:25 Fritz2       wait from where are this are archivements coming out?
17:25 Void7        it's just a concept right now
17:27 Fritz2       ok thanks. how i can open the engine's files (C)?
17:27 Void7        it's in the src folder
17:27 Void7        the whole game is at https://github.com/minetest/minetest
17:27 MinetestBot  02[git] 04Ekdohibs -> 03minetest/minetest: Remove chat escape sequences from chat messages, for future colored chat. 13095f623 https://git.io/va0DO (152016-03-15T17:33:15+01:00)
17:30 Fritz2       but if i'm using the stable version for windows
17:30 Fritz2       ?
17:31 kaadmy       the stable version binaries don't include the source files afaik
17:31 est31        first minetest is written in c++ not in c
17:31 kaadmy       look at this instead: https://github.com/minetest/minetest
17:31 est31        and you might have a binary as kaadmy says
17:33 est31        C++ is a compiled language, meaning that in order to modify behaviour you have to not just edit the source file but also compile the source to a binary
17:33 Fritz2       um that's explain some things...
17:33 est31        gives you some advantages
17:33 est31        for example its faster
17:33 est31        if you have to do the work every time you load the program, the program loads slower
17:33 est31        also a binary is much smaller than source code
17:34 est31        faster to download
17:34 Fritz2       so the .dll files are binary, right?
17:34 est31        yes
17:34 est31        dll and exe both are binary formats
17:35 Void7        singleplayer menu concept: https://lut.im/kodyjOAok1/WRHx9wrcBVJxWO73.png
17:35 Void7        i gtg right now, be back later
17:36 Fritz2       hello
17:36 Obani        olleh
17:36 Fritz2       https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaOTxxF7dz8
17:37 Fritz2       my reaction
17:40 Fritz2       can i add a vocal message here (just curiosity)?
17:40 Fritz2       its possible to add*
17:41 Obani        on irc ?
17:41 Fritz2       yes
17:43 Obani        internet relay CHAT
17:44 Fritz2       yes -.-
17:47 Fritz2       bye
17:57 Void7        ok, back
18:05 nm0i         there is dcc videochat for irssi, it uses libcaca to render images
18:07 nm0i         is voice chat possible on irc... yes. but please don't do it, its hard to parse with perl
18:31 Arron        hello there
18:31 Arron        i want create an Articial Inteligence for minetest
18:31 Arron        and i m looking how cominucate with minetest server please
18:32 Void7        http://dev.minetest.net/Network_Protocol
18:33 Arron        "Please note that the protocol is undergoing restructuring in the code "
18:33 Arron        is still up to date ?
18:33 Arron        please
18:33 Void7        i think it is
18:33 Arron        cool go learning :)
18:34 Arron        thanks
18:34 Void7        np :)
18:34 Void7        hi calinou :)
18:35 Calinou      hi
18:42 rubenwardy   heavygale, not currently, sorry
18:43 rubenwardy   I guess it wouldn't be TOO hard to make
18:43 heavygale    alright, already skripted around this issue -> checking all thats required in a register_onJoin-funktion :)
18:44 heavygale    this way i can grant privs as a reward to
18:44 rubenwardy   awards is in the middle of an API rewrite which makes triggers easier to make
18:44 rubenwardy   You can grant privs in an onAward callback, iirc
18:45 rubenwardy   nevermind, that's in the dev branch
18:45 rubenwardy   https://github.com/rubenwardy/awards/blob/dev/api.lua#L152
18:46 heavygale    ah ok, didn't see that one,.. but now that i check the requirements myself i can grand the privs right before returning "my_award" from the awards.register_onJoin-funktion
18:46 rubenwardy   yeah, that's the best way currently
18:47 rubenwardy   Maybe I should do more work on it
18:48 rubenwardy   Maybe I should make the license less restrictive, too
18:48 heavygale    my problem is solved,.. just ask in order to code it "the right way" ;)
18:51 rubenwardy   Ok.
18:52 rubenwardy   It was over 3 years ago that I wrote that mod, and I was learning lua at the time...
18:52 rubenwardy   so I apologise for the sucky API XD
18:53 Arron        u need to use doxygen for the C docuementation no ?
18:54 Calinou      Arron, there are other documentation systems, but Doxygen seems to be the most popular one
18:55 Arron        it was a l ong time i m not using it
18:55 Arron        but in my memory it looks very cool to using it
18:58 Calinou      default Doxygen theme is ugly :P
18:58 Calinou      when you generate to HTML
19:08 Void7        yay! you can actually start a singleplayer game with my menu now \o/
19:08 Void7        https://lut.im/w0npiwGsgF/Cu83uM4cm5Kpqt9u.png
19:30 Void7        source for the menu: http://pastebin.com/DgV3bmmz
19:30 Void7        copy into builtin/mainmenu/init.lua
19:55 Krock        Void7, line 41 and following: you can add ".." at the end of the line and leave the "fs = fs .." on the next line away
20:00 Void7        yeah, i know
20:16 dzho         nm0i: you were kidding about libcaca irssi video chat. Right?
20:17 nm0i         no
20:18 dzho         do you have a link then, please? because that's too amusing not to ... take a look at
20:20 dzho         nm0i: and my search is turning up nothing
20:23 nm0i         https://symlink.me/projects/minbif/wiki/CACAcam
20:23 nm0i         dzho: ^
20:24 dzho         nm0i: thanks!
20:24 nm0i         https://people.symlink.me/~rom1/projects/minbif/cacacam_irssi2.ogv
22:29 kaeza        greetings
22:49 redblade     hi
22:51 redblade     i think i discovered, on the server reboot i set up, what was causing most users to time out due to a slow spawn point
22:51 redblade     there was a lot of plantlife and trees around
22:52 redblade     because i had gotten everything good at the server end, it was a client issue
22:52 redblade     i worked with everamzah the other night
22:52 swift110     thats cool
22:52 redblade     so after i got rid of the plantlife, it doesnt seem slow anymore, and there are rare timeouts compared to quits
22:53 redblade     s/plantlife/plantlife near the spawn point
22:53 redblade     my computer is fast and has 32 gb ram so i'm not really able to diagnose these problems
22:53 redblade     if anyone here can go check it out for me, and see if it's improved, that would be great
22:54 redblade     "the creative gardens"
22:54 redblade     successor to the old terrarium server, which i got rid of due to problems with the experimental mapgen, technic, and pipeworks
22:55 redblade     (none of which are used in the creative gardens)
23:02 kaeza        redblade, https://github.com/VanessaE/signs_lib/issues/2#issuecomment-196577270
23:05 redblade     actually kaeza i never had the east-facing signs issue when i set up the new server, and i just upgraded all my mods including signs_lib last night
23:05 redblade     the on-ground signs still dont show text though
23:06 kaeza        see VE's comment. probably not so easy to do
23:06 redblade     the only differences between the two servers are a lack of technic, pipeworks, experimental mg, and the introduction of coloredwood and vanessae's fork of unifiedbricks
23:07 redblade     i also modified unifiedbricks init.lua so that all brick blocks are in creative inventory, and that nothing is returned when digging them back
23:07 redblade     being a creative server having an inventory filled with unusable single bricks, or trying to craft brick blocks, is annoying
23:08 redblade     unlike coloredwood which is easy to craft, so i left those out of inventory
23:08 kaeza        nothing seems related to the disappearing text bug
23:09 redblade     no this is just describing the difference between the two servers, and that i'm not having blank east-facing (you face west) signs
23:10 redblade     so if it's anything i'd imagine mg, pipeworks, or technic were involved. i dont remember what else or if anything else i didnt re-add
23:10 redblade     pipeworks was a major cause of crashing
23:10 redblade     was the fix1 you have introduced before or after last night?
23:10 redblade     because i updated the signs_lib last nighgt
23:10 kaeza        23 hours ago, according to GH
23:11 redblade     according to freedownloadmanager, 3/14 10:23 PM eastern
23:11 redblade     it did say signs_lib had been updated that day
23:12 redblade     so i dont know if you updated it since
23:12 redblade     btw how was the speed at the spawn point kaeza?
23:12 kaeza        hm?
23:18 kaeza        in any case, have to go. try that patch and see if it fixes the issue
23:18 kaeza        o/