Time Nick Message 00:30 MinetestBot 02[git] 04voronaam -> 03minetest/minetest: Fix a mistake in the world format documentation 13da97969 https://git.io/v2Sew (152016-03-03T01:25:35+01:00) 00:46 MinetestBot 02[git] 04tenplus1 -> 03minetest/minetest_game: Fix book formspec to word-wrap lines 13aa254e2 https://git.io/v2SJm (152016-03-03T00:37:07Z) 00:46 MinetestBot 02[git] 04MT-Modder -> 03minetest/minetest_game: Allow non-players to dig steel doors. 1329252c6 https://git.io/v2SJY (152016-03-03T00:37:01Z) 00:46 MinetestBot 02[git] 04MT-Modder -> 03minetest/minetest_game: Allow non-players to dig locked chests. 13ac843f8 https://git.io/v2SJO (152016-03-03T00:37:01Z) 00:46 MinetestBot 02[git] 04MT-Modder -> 03minetest/minetest_game: Allow non-players to dig bones. 130410b5e https://git.io/v2SJ3 (152016-03-03T00:37:01Z) 00:46 MinetestBot 02[git] 04red-001 -> 03minetest/minetest_game: Document `share_bones_time_early` 133a98245 https://git.io/v2SJs (152016-03-03T00:36:53Z) 04:34 MinetestBot 02[git] 04ShadowNinja -> 03minetest/minetest: Add support for non-ASCII characters to chat console 138b006a1 https://git.io/v2S0S (152016-03-02T23:23:31-05:00) 04:34 MinetestBot 02[git] 04ShadowNinja -> 03minetest/minetest: Add Android chat form 139dd38cf https://git.io/v2S09 (152016-03-02T23:23:31-05:00) 04:34 MinetestBot 02[git] 04ShadowNinja -> 03minetest/minetest: Add text selection and copying to console 13430929e https://git.io/v2S0H (152016-03-02T23:23:31-05:00) 04:34 MinetestBot 02[git] 04ShadowNinja -> 03minetest/minetest: Unlock cursor when opening console 133edb757 https://git.io/v2S0Q (152016-03-02T23:23:31-05:00) 04:34 MinetestBot 02[git] 04EXio4 -> 03minetest/minetest: Use the console instead of a dedicated window when pressing keymap_chat/cmd 13effa247 https://git.io/v2S07 (152016-03-02T23:23:31-05:00) 05:49 MinetestBot 02[git] 04ShadowNinja -> 03minetest/minetest: Remove debug.getupvalue from the Lua sandbox whitelist 13abd4a79 https://git.io/v2Sa7 (152016-03-03T00:09:05-05:00) 05:57 sofar Ronsor`: he just started it, I think 05:58 MinetestBot 02[git] 04ShadowNinja -> 03minetest/minetest: Fix main menu being unable to set secure settings 137bcbc01 https://git.io/v2SV4 (152016-03-03T00:57:19-05:00) 06:17 sofar is there an option to enable the minimap by default? 06:17 sofar enable_minimap = true derp 06:18 sofar euh, no, doesn't work 06:18 sofar still have to press F9 every time I start the game 11:52 exio4 woah, nice. 14:19 Megaf Hi all, is there any way to create natural light in caves? 14:19 Megaf sometimes we see sun light inside caves, but that's only a glitch 15:21 Megaf nobody? 15:24 kaeza o/ 15:26 Megaf Hi kaeza 15:26 Megaf kaeza, any idea on how to generate that natural light glicht in caves? 15:27 kaeza natural light glitch? 15:31 STHGOM is there something like this: "minetest.on_punch(puncher, punched, hp)" ? 15:32 Obani Megaf, if you have roof in another chunk 15:32 Obani Or really far away 15:32 Obani You can still try /mafix 15:32 Obani /mapfix 15:33 Obani (with the mapfixer mod) 15:37 kaeza woo. merging session, I see 15:44 kaeza !tell Megaf https://www.dropbox.com/s/rgc7snykovkvtdg/fakesun.zip?dl=0 hacky, but WFM 15:44 MinetestBot kaeza: I'll pass that on when Megaf is around 15:58 STHGOM or is there an "on_hp_change" for players? 16:06 kaadmy STHGOM: i think so 16:06 kaadmy look in docs/lua_api.txt 16:47 Lluri Hello people 16:48 Lluri Got troubles with WorldEdit mod 16:48 Lluri As soon as the GUI is activated, I can't get acces to the nodes list 16:49 Lluri I mean I still can pick items from the list to put in the crafting tool, or in my 8 items list, but I am stucked on page 1 16:49 Lluri So I've got acces only to this page... 16:56 kaeza Lluri, which Minetest version? also, when did you download World Edit and Unified Inventory? 16:56 Lluri Unified inventory ? 16:56 Lluri The latest 16:57 Lluri 0.4.13 16:57 Lluri same for the WorldEdit, it's the latest one 16:58 kaeza or, uh... which GUI are you using for WorldEdit? it seems to support Unified Inventory and a couple others 16:59 kaeza I should really get around to compile stable .13 just for tests... 17:00 Lluri well I use the GUI of the game itself, and I've activated the icluded one in the latest version of worldedit 17:00 Lluri So I'm using both 17:00 Lluri But the game's one seems not perfectly working with the worldedit one's activated 17:04 STHGOM how would I make a command that removes all of a certain entity? 17:05 kaeza Lluri, try this one and see if it works: https://github.com/Uberi/Minetest-WorldEdit/archive/f2f714c19e18ede9b3e201b2a5b6bf9828a5dd8d.zip 17:06 Lluri What is it ? a gui ? 17:06 Lluri That will make 3 GUI ? 17:06 kaeza an older version of WE 17:06 kaeza (not TOO old) 17:07 kaeza there has been some changes recently in the core engine which prompted for changes in WE, which may be breaking stable 0.4.13 17:07 Lluri someone told me the GUI wasn't up in the version before the one I have 17:07 Lluri Oo 17:07 Lluri I'll try this and tell you 17:15 kaeza :( 17:15 twoelk kaeza: are you still working on the wiki mod? 17:17 kaeza twoelk, yes and no. don't touch the thing because it works, but I'm open to suggestions 17:18 twoelk the version on the LOTT server has recently had a close button added, which I find convenient 17:19 twoelk have been playing with borders and colors myself recently 17:24 kaeza twoelk, the GUI needs a bit of love, yes :P 17:24 kaeza may I have a screenshot of your work? 17:25 * twoelk runs and hides 17:25 kaeza :( 17:27 twoelk actually there is a version in use on the Isarnho server at 84.181.193.251 17:28 twoelk no colors but some button piles under index 17:29 twoelk running the roman map there at the moment and trying to make a screenshot 17:36 twoelk https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?p=202921#p202921 the wiki as on Lord-Of-The-Test server 17:36 twoelk http://i.imgur.com/GXQ1qJ1.png wiki with button piles 17:43 twoelk hrmpf -- server keeps timing out for the public server list 17:53 STHGOM how would i use "minetest.get_node_level(pos)" to get crumbly? 17:53 STHGOM if minetest.get_node_level(pos) == "crumbly" then ... 17:56 kaeza http://i.imgur.com/GXQ1qJ1.png [...] <-- this looks too cramped 17:57 kaeza hmm... maybe the buttons can be arranged vertically along the side 17:59 kaeza STHGOM, that's like asking "how do I use a chainsaw to tighten a screw" 17:59 kaeza don't ask "how do I use $TOOL to do $TASK"; ask "how do I do $TASK" 18:00 STHGOM ok 18:00 STHGOM lol, how *do* i use a chainsaw to tighten a screw? 18:01 STHGOM I originally was looking at http://dev.minetest.net/minetest.get_node_group, but it says it depreciated 18:02 * kaeza sighs 18:03 STHGOM ok, how do I get a nodes crumblyness? 18:03 STHGOM sorry 18:05 Krock kaeza, you seem to be an extreme capitalist. 18:05 kaeza you need the name, and check `minetest.registered_nodes[name].groups` if `crumbly is defined and larger than 0` 18:06 Calinou Krock, I worked with PHP this morning… :/ 18:06 Krock Calinou, another capitalist detected! 18:06 kaeza Krock, O.o 18:06 Krock kaeza, "how do I use $TOOL to do $TASK"; ask "how do I do $TASK" 18:07 Krock $.$ 18:07 STHGOM ok, got it, ty 18:07 kaeza oh, sorry. %TASK% 18:07 kaeza <_< 18:08 sfan5 !server players:most 18:08 MinetestBot sfan5: [FR] Minetest France Survie / PvP | minetest-france.fr:30001 | Clients: 27/60, 7/27 | Version: 0.4.13 / minetest | Ping: 89ms 18:08 kaeza Krock, at least, getting the name of a script is free 18:08 kaeza $0 18:08 Krock ^^ 18:27 twoelk kaeza: http://imgur.com/VXc7VJI the welcome mod has buttons on the side but I'm not sure that fits the wiki mod 18:45 kaeza twoelk, I was thinking putting them on the right side, with the "Save" and "Close" buttons at top or bottom, and smaller buttons 18:45 kaeza or bigger formspec 18:45 kaeza currently testing this layout 18:49 twoelk I'm not sure how usable a bigger formspec might be on a mobile device 19:27 kaeza good point. hadn't tought about mobile :/ 19:28 kaeza I don't think it should make too much of a difference anyway 19:33 Hijiri kaeza: STHGOM: get_item_group isn't deprecated 19:33 Hijiri get_node_group is deprecated in favor of get_item_group 19:33 Hijiri get_item_group will do the nil checking for you and give 0 in that case 19:34 STHGOM ah, ok 20:13 Ronsor` i will no longer run a minetest server, i removed the public server list and still got greifers 20:17 Hijiri you can add default password 20:17 Hijiri or a whitelist 20:18 Ronsor` wait, a default password? 20:18 Ronsor` i never saw that! 20:19 Ronsor` oh there it is 20:19 Ronsor` what? i've never seen that before 20:19 sfan5 !server players:most 20:19 MinetestBot sfan5: Extreme Survival Minetest City | 23.28.76.50 | Clients: 21/33, 13/30 | Version: 0.4.13 / extreme_survival | Ping: 135ms 20:20 Ronsor` now to monkeypatch users.txt 20:23 Hijiri !server players:least 20:23 MinetestBot Hijiri: Yggdrasil [linuxiuvat.de] | linuxiuvat.de | Clients: 0/20, 1/7 | Version: 0.4.13 / minetest | Ping: 12ms 20:23 Hijiri !server Magical 20:23 MinetestBot Hijiri: No results 20:23 Hijiri rip 20:31 kaeza http://i.imgur.com/3dx5oVe.jpg 20:31 kaeza formspec coordinate system is fucked up. badly 20:37 Hijiri I had this problem and kaadmy showed me why it happens 20:37 Hijiri apparently images are scaled differently for some reason 20:37 Hijiri oh 20:37 Hijiri actually I don't know for buttosn and textareas 20:38 Hijiri but maybe there is something similar, where some elements get padded/scaled differently 20:39 kaeza the origin is also inconsistent. for buttons, 0 means "a little bit of margin", but for textarea, 0 means pixel-aligned to the border 20:41 kaeza textarea/field are aligned to the specified coordinates, regardless of whether they have labels or not 20:42 kaeza which means you need to give it a little more space to account for the label 20:43 kaeza actually, it's better to ignore label, I think 20:48 kaeza I'm looking for opinions on the layout though :P 20:51 kaeza compare to old layout: http://i.imgur.com/sslcjYa.jpg 20:55 boombatower can anyone point me to a guide/example config for tuning a mintest server to utilize a server with lots of cpu/network bandwidth? io/cpu/net all seem to be relatively idle yet chunks are rather sluggish to load many times....even when on the same network as server 21:03 Calinou boombatower, https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=1825 21:03 Calinou you can use this: 21:03 Calinou dedicated_server_step = 0.05 21:03 Calinou max_simultaneous_block_sends_server_total = 10000 21:03 Calinou max_simultaneous_block_sends_per_client = 20 21:05 boombatower Calinou: thanks, will do 21:05 sofar boombatower: also, apply this patch https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/3805 21:05 sofar boombatower: and set lbm_interval and abm_interval to 0.2 21:05 sofar (and let me know if that helps as well) 21:06 boombatower sofar: alright, thanks 21:46 MinetestBot 02[git] 04Jeija -> 03minetest/minetest: Require minetest.request_http_api to be called from the mod's main scope 131100a5d https://git.io/v2Q1g (152016-03-03T22:42:00+01:00) 21:53 LazyJ Has there been a change to forum.mientest.net that blocks images from dropbox? 21:53 Calinou check your browser's console 21:53 Calinou I don't think we do anything specific on image URLs 21:54 LazyJ What am I to check for? 21:54 Calinou check in the Network tab of the console 21:54 Calinou or just the JavaScript console, which also logs network errors sometimes 21:55 LazyJ My browser isn't blocking anything from the forums. 21:55 LazyJ What ever changed was within the last 12hrs. 21:55 Calinou note that Dropbox performs rate limiting if traffic becomes too high 21:56 Calinou in the meantime, try another host like https://lut.im/ :p 22:10 LazyJ Problem isolated to my web browser, Firefox. Google Chrome displays the page with the screenshots. Now to try to figure out why FF is having such consternation. :/ 22:23 Hijiri I have been using pomf.is for forum images 22:26 LazyJ I use imgur.com for most screenshots and it has worked well for me for years. But, the overview maps that I update weekly/bi-weekly on forum thread's top post is where dropbox's handling of file paths and names works out better. 22:26 rubenwardy are you allowed to apply additional terms to GPL? https://github.com/graememcc/micropolisJS/blob/master/LICENSE 22:27 rubenwardy nevermind 22:27 LazyJ With Dropbox, I upload the overview maps to the same folder and then merely change the date on the dated filename in the forum post to update the post. 22:27 LazyJ 22:29 LazyJ So updating overview map "main_section_2016_03_01.png" is a simple "replace all" of 2016_03_01 with 2016_03_08. 22:30 LazyJ Since all the overview maps use a date at the end of the file name, all the overview maps are updated with the "replace" function. 22:30 LazyJ So that is why I use Dropbox, in this particular use case, instead of other image hosting services. 22:31 LazyJ Ok, sermon's done. 22:31 LazyJ 22:34 Niebieski Hey guys, is there any news about Realbad ? 22:43 Fixer have not heared anything 23:05 Fixer what time is it? it is compile time! 1100a5d + PR3775-3810-3811 23:24 rubenwardy LazyJ, have you made sure you've hard linked using ?dl=1 23:25 rubenwardy lol, lincity-ng crashed first time 23:26 Fixer rubenwardy, since when?? 23:26 rubenwardy ? 23:27 Fixer rubenwardy, how long you play it? 23:28 rubenwardy err, zero minutes so far...? 23:28 rubenwardy It crashed as I clicked "start game" 23:29 Fixer rubenwardy, ah 23:30 Fixer i'm playing CDDA mainly 23:30 Fixer it is damn good asci game 23:30 rubenwardy Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead? 23:30 Fixer yes 23:30 Fixer zombie apocalypse 23:30 Fixer it has literally everything 23:31 Fixer you can dig, build bases and vehicles 23:31 Fixer craft thing 23:31 Fixer learn from books 23:31 Fixer it is so complex 23:31 Fixer 1000 of options 23:32 Fixer highly recommend it for people who play dwarf fortress and stuff like that 23:33 Fixer experiment brunch maybe somewhat unstable right now 23:34 Hijiri I'm downloading it right nwo 23:35 Fixer it uses graphics tile by default iirc, asci is way more cooler 23:35 Hijiri it is not in debian repo despite popularity and its license fitting DFSG 23:35 rubenwardy just reading the FAQ is interesting 23:35 Niebieski I played it a couple time. 23:36 Fixer it has 40 000 commits 23:37 Fixer intense development 23:37 Hijiri Is it playable mostly blind? Or will I have to consult out-of-game documentation to play properly 23:37 Fixer sometimes 23:37 Fixer it has immense scope 23:37 Hijiri I'll probably start looking up stuff eventually regardless 23:38 Fixer it is very complex 23:38 Fixer i'm playing exp build few month old 23:38 Fixer if you download 0.C, it is very old 23:38 Fixer release was in 2015 iirc 23:38 Hijiri I am cloning git 23:39 rubenwardy is there a way of getting less abstract graphics? 23:39 LazyJ rubenwardy - DropBox/forum screenshots: I found the problem; AdBlock was blocking content from forum.minetest.net. idk why AdBlock did it today because I've used AdBlock for years. Heh. Maybe AdBlock wants some ransom money from Minetest. :p 23:39 LazyJ 23:42 Niebieski but the game is hard. 23:42 Fixer rubenwardy, there are asci and tiles available 23:42 Niebieski It reminds me of Project Zomboid. 23:42 Fixer use asci 23:43 Fixer tiles suck 23:43 rubenwardy cool http://i.imgur.com/cM4fh57.png 23:45 Fixer tiles suck 23:45 rubenwardy in your opinion 23:45 Fixer danger, this game is very addictive 23:46 rubenwardy Not foss, but I've enjoyed this game recently: http://rimworldgame.com/ 23:47 Fixer for cdda people this is like heaven 23:47 Fixer https://i.imgur.com/hOOQFoi.png 23:49 rubenwardy no idea what that is 23:50 rubenwardy what are <> F v 23:50 rubenwardy S 23:50 Hijiri > sudo apt install libsdl2-ttf-dev 23:50 Hijiri > 531 packages to remove 23:50 Hijiri rip 23:50 Hijiri no tiles for me 23:50 Hijiri which is ok 23:50 Hijiri but sounds require tiles apparentlyu 23:50 Fixer hehe 23:51 Fixer rubenwardy, keys? 23:51 Fixer rubenwardy, ah 23:51 Fixer rubenwardy, on map? < > is houses 23:51 Hijiri now I'm sitting in class with laptop making noise at 100% cpu 23:51 Fixer rubenwardy, F - fire station 23:51 rubenwardy that's a lot of fire stations 23:51 rubenwardy so that's an overview map? 23:51 Fixer yes 23:51 rubenwardy is that a settlement? 23:52 Fixer city 23:52 Fixer so huge 23:52 rubenwardy made by players? 23:52 Fixer no 23:52 Fixer autogenerated 23:52 rubenwardy ok 23:52 Hijiri 94% 23:52 Hijiri nearly done 23:52 Fixer this game will be probably to hard for you 23:53 rubenwardy sounds like a challenge 23:53 rubenwardy can you play it multiplayer? 23:53 rubenwardy do you build settlements? 23:54 Fixer Hijiri, tiles can be disabled in graphical one 23:54 Fixer rubenwardy, settlements? you can 23:55 Fixer rubenwardy, it is more survival one, zombies, cars, construction 23:55 rubenwardy I see 23:56 Fixer settlements with zombies? o_0