Time  Nick         Message
00:13 MinetestBot  02[git] 04paramat -> 03minetest/minetest_game: Default/mapgen: Remove unnecessary spaces from log decorations 1362dbf29 https://git.io/v28YU (152016-02-25T00:08:30Z)
00:14 Fixer        walking in underwater tunnel is madness
00:26 rom1504      underlava tunnel is the best
00:26 Fixer        madness in bug sence
00:26 Fixer        water rendering suck so much at the moment
00:27 swift110     hey all
00:28 rom1504      I should try minetest someday
00:28 rom1504      the day I decide to make a node client for it, I'll do that
00:32 swift110     you can still play it
00:37 rom1504      I can
00:37 rom1504      but I better hack around it
01:20 nolsen       VanessaE: Is it me, or the new_flow_logic on pipeworks is actually working better than I thought.
04:01 VanessaE     nolsen: re new_flow_logic, I couldn't tell you, no one else seems to like that branch, and no one's stepped up to "fix" it.
04:01 VanessaE     so I kinda gave up on it.
04:02 nolsen       So will new features like logic will be implemented in the master branch?
04:02 nolsen       The features that already work espesially.
04:03 VanessaE     I don't know.
04:05 VanessaE     I'm not active in mod development right now, won't be for a long while.  nore, t4im, and est31 are the other main contributors and they're not active on that mod either, so it's basically dormant.
04:05 VanessaE     (I don't want to call it "dead" but it's pretty close to that)
04:16 nanovad      Is there an option in minetest.conf, or in a world-specific settings file, to disable health for creative servers?
04:16 sofar        enable_damage?
04:21 nanovad      That does it. Thanks sofar.
08:01 sofar        rebased all wrong
08:01 sofar        crap
08:02 sofar        daaaaaaamn man
08:35 abc3354      hello...
08:40 abc3354      hello...
11:47 rubenwardy   https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?p=208400#p208400
12:06 rubenwardy   !mod cannon
12:06 MinetestBot  rubenwardy: cannons with a lot of features! [cannons] by addi - https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=7744
13:07 nrzkt        !mod mylife
13:07 MinetestBot  nrzkt: Could not find anything.
13:07 nrzkt        :(
13:13 rubenwardy   it might not have crawled yet, it it's a new mod
13:13 rubenwardy   !mod my life
13:13 MinetestBot  rubenwardy: Could not find anything.
14:12 srifqi       Okay, I was compiling it wrong: I build both Minetest and Minetestserver. So, it takes longer.
14:13 srifqi       I have tried to compile lastest from my fork I have merged from minetest repo today. It tooks about 45~50 minutes on Windows 7 32-bit.
14:35 RealBadAngel srifqi, what box do you have so it takes so long?
14:35 srifqi       Uh, what box?
14:36 RealBadAngel computer
14:36 RealBadAngel are u compiling it on microwave owen or what? :)
14:37 srifqi       mini-microwave with low voltage
14:37 srifqi       With computer, of course
14:38 RealBadAngel asking because for me its like ~2 minutes
14:38 srifqi       ...
14:38 RealBadAngel and i do have rather low-end machine
14:39 srifqi       how's the spec?
14:40 RealBadAngel Intel(R) Pentium(R) CPU G3240 @ 3.10GHz
14:41 srifqi       Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU N280 @ 1.66GHz, 1667 Mhz, 1 Core, 2 Logical Processors
14:41 srifqi       Okay, yours faster
14:41 srifqi       RAM?
14:42 srifqi       Uh, seems like RAM doesn't have any effect
14:42 RealBadAngel atom, ouch
14:42 RealBadAngel now i do know why ;)
14:42 srifqi       ...
14:43 RealBadAngel get something like mine, its less than $100 for such CPU with mainboard
14:43 srifqi       *convertingintoIDR
14:44 srifqi       (about Rp1.343.000,00)
14:44 srifqi       Are you sure there is CPU lower than it?
14:45 srifqi       *lower price
14:47 srifqi       Is OS also has effect?
14:47 RealBadAngel when i was buying it about one 1 yr ago it was the most cheap one in this class
14:48 srifqi       :O
14:48 RealBadAngel maybe they have other models now
14:49 srifqi       Is OS also has effect on compiling? (2)
14:49 RealBadAngel not sure, never tried to compile anything on windows
14:49 RealBadAngel i dont have windows even
14:51 RealBadAngel but reading sometimes posts folks trying to compile there anything it seems to be a pain in the ass
14:53 srifqi       When I read the log of travis-ci, it only tooks 5~7 minutes to be done (including downloading libs). It is fast.
14:53 srifqi       *log of Minetest in travis-ci
14:53 RealBadAngel grab some live-cd and try
14:54 srifqi       I'm already downloaded ubuntu-14.10.iso, I have tried it live, but not compiling.
14:54 RealBadAngel you dont have to install linux to try it
14:55 RealBadAngel idk if it will be faster, but definitely easier
14:55 RealBadAngel even building windows binaries on linux is easy
14:56 RealBadAngel some folks even using linux in virual machine on windows to compile minetest
14:56 srifqi       Of course, easier. I've read some sources about compiling Minetest in Linux and it was easy. Even somebody has created single-line install script to compile Minetest.
14:56 srifqi       They did? :O
15:35 DatJohnDoe   How can you get the name of a pointed thing... like if pointed_thing:get_name() == "mod:blabla"   ?
15:38 sofar        DatJohnDoe: you need to use pointed_thing.under, which is a pos, not node
15:38 DatJohnDoe   I need to know if they are punching a certain node
15:38 sofar        so minetest.get_node(pointed_thing.under).name
15:38 DatJohnDoe   I mean placing on top of a certain node
15:40 DatJohnDoe   It worked :D, what about making a mob that can't move or jump?
15:43 DatJohnDoe   Or just an entity
15:43 sofar        if you don't move the mob, it's not gonna move
15:43 DatJohnDoe   It jumps to move
15:44 DatJohnDoe   I have walk_velocity and run_velocity set to 0 but they still move
15:45 DatJohnDoe   i set them to negative and now they just move backwards hehe
17:16 everamzah    is the halo selection box supposed to shift in color?  http://giphy.com/gifs/3o7abtD20g8NsmD48o
17:18 RealBadAngel yes
17:19 everamzah    ty!
17:20 RealBadAngel and btw, its either "halo" or "selection boxes"
17:37 Fixer        "Unfortunately we couldn’t take payment from you, so we’ve cancelled your Premium subscription for now."
17:37 Fixer        lol, wth is this shit, i didn't register over there
17:37 Fixer        some spotify crap
17:39 jn__         spam, maybe?
17:40 Fixer        could be
17:40 sofar        show headers, look at From and Received lines
17:40 sofar        note the actual sending address :)
17:44 Fixer        another one: Thank you for your interest in $someshitnobodyheardoff. Please verify your email
17:44 Fixer        lol
17:45 Fixer        Unfortunately we couldn’t take payment from you, so we’ve cancelled your Premium subscription for now.
17:45 Fixer        oh well
17:46 RealBadAngel Fixer,  propably another attempt to get your data, credit card number etc
17:46 jn__         just what spammers do these days
17:46 RealBadAngel spammers? thieves
17:48 RealBadAngel they should take care of such shit. theyre so good at hunting you when u have downloaded a movie. but such bastards are happy and stealing from you without worrying bout nothing
17:49 Fixer        Thank you for signing up for Spotify Premium!
17:49 Fixer        lolol, i have not ever signed up that shit
17:50 Calinou      Thank you for signing up for Minetest Premium!
17:50 Calinou      You now can:
17:50 Calinou      - Grief other people's houses legally
17:50 Calinou      - Undie when falling into lava
17:50 Calinou      - Ragequit in PvP
17:51 jn__         - Get 10 minutes of fly for just 5 minecoins
17:57 Krock        - Give us more money
17:57 Glorfindel   'k
17:57 Krock        Glorfindel, reading logs could be helpful ^^
17:57 Glorfindel   haha
18:01 STHGOM       are meshes able to be semi transparent?
18:01 Glorfindel   maybe I'm not remembering right, or perhaps the mod was removed, but the search seems to be an abysmal failure :(
18:03 Glorfindel   never fails, complain in public and you will find what you were looking for /o
18:11 Fixer        and it was registered on my tablet email, I even managed to reset password and enter into, funny, closing it anyway, that android shit is worrying
19:11 Hijiri       what's the most flexible mobs framework that's reasonably well-developed?
19:12 Hijiri       also with frameworks with ABM-based spawning, does ABM catch up result in buildup of lots of mobs?
19:12 Calinou      Hijiri, usually ABMs used for mob spawning are not stupid, they check for the current number of mobs in the area, and don't spawn if there already are a lot
19:14 Hijiri       Calinou: I see, thanks
19:21 Fixer        "How to Disable Ads on Your Windows 10 Lock Screen"
19:21 Fixer        pfff, now this bullshit
19:24 CWz          what windows 10 is ad supported
19:25 CWz          ?
19:32 STHGOM       how do i use on_step for entities? i want to make a timer
19:32 sofar        on_step is executed every server step
19:33 sofar        if you just want it to do something once in a while, use minetest.after()
19:39 STHGOM       ah, ok. i though there was something like minetest.after somewhere
19:44 STHGOM       how do you keep track of a specific entity after you've added it?
19:47 sofar        keep a reference in a list
19:54 Hijiri       STHGOM: also note that things in a minetest.after() aren't persisted, so if your server shuts down you will lose the timer
19:55 Hijiri       so you will have to account for that somehow
19:56 sofar        which is why using the entity on_step is nice and easy
19:56 gamemanj     might be easier to use on_step and have a time_until_whatever property :)
19:56 sofar        you could just use that and make it not do anything for 20 steps
19:57 STHGOM       hmm
19:57 gamemanj     sofar: uh, "20 steps"? dtime, anyone?
19:57 sofar        whatever floats your boat.
19:57 sofar        get_us_time()
19:59 gamemanj     actually, I'm pretty sure entity on_step gets a delta... do correct me if I'm wrong
20:00 Hijiri       it does
20:00 gamemanj     I guess "steps" allow a consistent synchronization because they're integers, though
20:00 gamemanj     so if this is for something like mesecons where someone building a CPU or something might want that kind of precise control
20:01 gamemanj     then assuming steps are a consistent unit, use steps
20:01 sofar        well dtime is more accurate
20:01 sofar        if the server gets a lagspike, dtime would account for it
20:01 sofar        if you don't care for accuracy, using a ttl or something like that (decreasing integer counter) is nice
20:01 sofar        since it won't penalize the server when it lags
20:02 Hijiri       with dtime if you were doing a CPU you could still get the number of whole seconds and save the remainder
20:02 Hijiri       or whole ticks
20:02 sofar        and dtime calculations will hit the server when it lags
20:02 gamemanj     Hijiri: Yeah, but if you were building a CPU, in minetest, out of blocks, if enough of a lagspike hits you might miss part of a cycle
20:02 gamemanj     then things break
20:02 gamemanj     hence: Steps for stuff where timing precision is not needed, but synchronization precision is imperative
20:03 Hijiri       ok, I see
20:03 gamemanj     while dtime is for when timing precision is needed, but might theoretically not synchronize
20:03 gamemanj     or might jump about,
20:04 gamemanj     always remaining accurate to real-time but leading to jumps about because of lagspikes / someone using an evil ABM / comet impact
20:04 STHGOM       can someone show me how to use it to remove an entity after a certain time?
20:05 Hijiri       STHGOM: give your entity a "time_left" variable or something similar, set to whatever lifetime your entity has, and then in its on_step, reduce the time_left by the dtime. If it gets below 0, remove the entity
20:06 Hijiri       something like on_step = function(self, dtime) self.time_left = self.time_left - dtime if self.time_left <= 0 then self.obj:remove() end end
20:06 Hijiri       and then in your entity definition you would have time_left = 42 -- Or however long your entity should live
20:13 DatJohnDoe   Is it possible to make a mob smaller? Like visual_size?
20:17 DatJohnDoe   That was exactly it actually just do visual_size = {x = .5, y =.5}
20:17 DatJohnDoe   Bhe
20:17 STHGOM       attempt to index "obj" (a nil value)
20:18 Hijiri       Maybe it was object
20:18 Hijiri       try it with self.object instead
20:19 Hijiri       actually yeah, lua api doc says it's self.object
20:19 STHGOM       yup
20:19 STHGOM       k
20:19 STHGOM       thanks a lot :D
20:42 STHGOM       hmm, I also tried to add an "age" variable, but the "=" in "self.age = self.age + dtime," is unexpected. why?
20:42 Hijiri       STHGOM: could you post the surrounding code
20:42 Hijiri       on lpaste.net or similar paste site
20:43 gamemanj     , is not used as a line separator
20:43 gamemanj     you just use , to separate the outer table fields,
20:44 gamemanj     not for within the function
20:44 gamemanj     so lines 5 and 6 should have the "," removed :)
20:44 STHGOM       ok
20:47 STHGOM       hmm, 7: "then" expected near "="
20:47 MinetestBot  02[git] 04UltimateNate -> 03minetest/minetest: Added dependencies for Fedora systems 13e2206f2 https://git.io/v2RrR (152016-02-25T21:45:52+01:00)
20:51 MinetestBot  02[git] 04UltimateNate -> 03minetest/minetest: Add dependencies for Fedora systems 13f77b35b https://git.io/v2RoK (152016-02-25T21:46:54+01:00)
20:51 est31        sorry fixed some things ^
20:51 est31        corrected User to user
21:01 gamemanj     STHGOM: ah, the "=<" should be "<="
21:02 kaadmy       gamemanj: yeaaa.
21:02 * gamemanj   is confused
21:02 STHGOM       wups
21:02 STHGOM       i messed it up, i guess
21:03 gamemanj     Could be worse. The general code was correct, just not the syntax.
21:04 STHGOM       yea. also is there a way to round down a decimal number?
21:06 Hijiri       math.floor
21:14 STHGOM       thanks again
21:48 turd         can anyone tell me where to download skins and how to add them to u_skins mod?
21:50 sfan5        iirc you can just use skins from minecraft
21:50 turd         i want only skins i choose, not a bulk download from the script within the mod\
21:51 turd         sfan can you tell me how to add them properly, i copied files to tesxture,preview, but it doesnt show
21:51 sfan5        no idea
21:51 turd         ok thanks
23:31 kaadmy       dang it
23:31 kaadmy       can't play MT anymore, too slow after the mesh items commit
23:33 wilkgr       Is there any way how I can increase the amount of RAM allocated to Lua?
23:33 wilkgr       Techinc_worldgen is crashing it at 203MB
23:33 sofar        not that I know of
23:33 wilkgr       :(
23:33 sofar        it'll eat up to 1gb by itself
23:33 sofar        how much system memory do you have?
23:34 wilkgr       *GB ram
23:34 wilkgr       8GB*
23:34 sofar        that be plenty
23:35 wilkgr       Yes.
23:35 wilkgr       Now it crashes with 179 MB ram used
23:35 wilkgr       Is this the cue to play Rigs of rods? jk
23:36 rubenwardy   kaadmy, complain in #minetest-dev
23:36 rubenwardy   and give stats
23:44 sofar        ses-9 spacex launch in 3mins
23:44 kaadmy       rubenwardy: i already have..
23:44 kaadmy       sofar: yup
23:44 rubenwardy   ok
23:44 kaadmy       my brother is watching in the other room, i can hear it O.o
23:45 est31        kaadmy, because he's watching or because you live next to the launch site xD
23:45 rubenwardy   watching now!
23:45 kaadmy       hold :|
23:46 sofar        no launch
23:46 rubenwardy   what does that mean?
23:46 sofar        launch aborted, tank purging will happen, they will miss today's launch window
23:47 rubenwardy   damn
23:47 est31        why
23:47 sofar        they're explaining now
23:47 est31        i listen
23:48 sofar        looks like they couldn't confirm that LO loading would finish on time
23:48 est31        LO == liquid oxygen
23:48 sofar        yes
23:48 kaadmy       sofar: i think the launch computers didn't start correctly
23:48 kaadmy       usually it's spelled LOX tho
23:48 sofar        yeah, I didn't catch the details on that entirely
23:50 rubenwardy   cool generic music
23:52 ssieb        very strange v7 mapgen feature (bug?)  http://sieb.net/mtv7square.png
23:54 rubenwardy   feature, according to paramat, iirc
23:55 ssieb        ok :-)
23:56 ssieb        also found a dungeon entrance on a beach...