Time Nick Message 03:21 RealBadAngel http://i.imgur.com/UlOOAvW.png 03:36 kaadmy ^ ? 03:40 nm0i ^.^ 03:51 sofar colored chat 03:51 kaadmy sofar: that's a mod 03:51 kaadmy chat2 03:51 sofar ah 04:54 sofar RealBadAngel: can I get an entity with a wieldmesh? 04:54 sofar RealBadAngel: or otherwise make one in lua? 05:48 Hijiri for food animation? 05:49 sofar yeah, I can do a texture, but then I'm always stuck with the same texture 06:27 Hijiri do people write sql queries with caps lock on? 06:30 sofar no, but it's easier to read later on as queries get more complex 06:31 sofar especially when you INNER JOIN stuff 09:59 JamesTait Good morning all! Happy Thursday, and happy Battery Day! 😃 11:12 paramat but JamesTait, is it included? 11:13 paramat we might need to go and buy a battery for Thursday 11:13 * JamesTait throws in a battery for good measure. 11:52 Samson1 Erm, 11:54 Samson1 VanessaE, you know on your basic-plus server you have to change people's skins via a mod or something? 11:55 Samson1 Erm, how do you do that? 12:08 Calinou Samson1, player_textures mod by PilzAdam I guess 12:41 * CWz hates it when idiot players try to get away with griefing by claiming it's trolling. thanks ZexyZek 12:42 est31 what the 12:42 est31 trolling is same as griefing 12:42 est31 ban both, or allow both 12:43 est31 of course griefing of public stuff is always bad 12:48 CWz yeah 12:50 est31 but yeah will be fun time for griefers if water floods away flowers and grass etc 12:50 est31 really fun time 12:57 troller true griefing: http://freeminer.setun.net/ss/screenshot_3130396065.png 12:57 troller it was big building 13:04 RealBadAngel troller, ouch ;) 13:10 CWz i don't under stand what going on on this thread "https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=14057&p=207802#p207802" the engrish panes I'm 13:11 CWz I think some DMCA's someone and something related to buying negative and positive ratings 13:13 CWz ^ the engrish virus has spread to me 13:14 troller "my designer" lol 13:14 troller its not me! 13:18 Dragonop Well, I don't know what you are expecting from someone that said in it's Minetest-based game that he coded the entire thing 13:20 RealBadAngel im lookin at his repo now, apart from another subgame, another gfx, all his commits about android performance are changing the same compiler settings all over again 13:21 Dragonop lol 13:21 RealBadAngel maybe im missing something but thats really looks like so 13:23 Dragonop That's really weird 13:24 troller he dosnt know - release build already with -03 13:25 troller he sell minetest for money about 2 years (0.5$-1$) on market 13:26 troller now he earns money on ads 13:26 Dragonop he's allowed to do that, afaik, as long as he gives credit 13:27 troller credit was not always 13:29 troller first time he hides source and changes credits 13:46 Dragonop Yes, I saw that, why would you hide the original authors? that's lame 13:56 CWz okay i think i understand what going on in that thread now. person A is Acusing person B of paying someone to give negative rating to freeminer while paying Person B to give Person B's project positive one 13:59 troller yes 14:01 MinetestBot 02[git] 04sofar -> 03minetest/minetest_game: Doors: Allow arbitrary recipe to be passed, even nil 13363b95c https://git.io/vghIO (152016-02-18T13:57:09Z) 14:01 MinetestBot 02[git] 04sofar -> 03minetest/minetest_game: Fix character.b3d animation issues. 138422f2e https://git.io/vghI3 (152016-02-18T13:57:04Z) 14:01 MinetestBot 02[git] 04tenplus1 -> 03minetest/minetest_game: added timer to tnt:tnt_burning for explosions 1336d18cb https://git.io/vghIs (152016-02-18T13:56:57Z) 14:01 MinetestBot 02[git] 04davisonio -> 03minetest/minetest_game: Remove log_mods from TNT 13b47a556 https://git.io/vghIG (152016-02-18T13:56:50Z) 14:27 Fixer there is "city block" mod that avoids liquid griefs in a important places 14:28 Fixer but recipe is very costly 16:01 MinetestBot 02[git] 04RealBadAngel -> 03minetest/minetest: Move object nametags to camera 13c3b2797 https://git.io/vghiF (152016-02-18T16:43:29+01:00) 17:09 MinetestBot 02[git] 04RealBadAngel -> 03minetest/minetest: HOTFIX: fix too agressive block culling 131ec1a60 https://git.io/vgjvK (152016-02-18T18:07:28+01:00) 17:38 kaadmy Samson1: hello :D 17:38 Samson1 Hello:D 17:39 Samson1 kaadmy, I am just adding you as a builder :) 17:41 Samson1 kaadmy, Done:) 18:21 Lugal Hello 18:22 Lugal how do I make decoration objects for my mod, which are simple sprites being able to be put on a node 18:22 Lugal ? 18:35 sofar Lugal: minetest.register_entity() ? 18:42 c55 hi 18:44 kaadmy hi 18:45 kaadmy c55: did you have to use the name c55 as a troll ^.^ 18:45 c55 No. 18:45 c55 i'm not a troll 18:45 c55 there's a reason 18:47 kaadmy why 18:47 Lugal sofar, can u give me more code? 18:47 c55 simply because c55 is the same nick that i use on the multiplayer server 18:48 c55 servers* 18:48 Lugal for some basic properties for it? 18:48 Lugal and for appearence: drawtype or type? ..? 18:50 c55 bye 18:51 sofar Lugal: sorry, I'm not going to write your code. There's plenty of mods that do similar things, try and find those. 18:51 Calinou // Here have code 18:51 Calinou // My hands are typing words 18:51 Calinou // Haaaaaaands 18:52 Lugal lol 18:52 kaadmy huh c55 didn't mention why he uses c55 in the first place.. 18:53 ElectronLibre Lugal: Register nodes with signlike drawtype and make them wallmounted. 18:54 ElectronLibre Similar to the old sprite signs you will be able to place them on walls/floors/ceilings and the sprite will be the node's texture. 18:56 Lugal thanks guys 19:00 H-H-H <> simply because c55 is the same nick that i use on the multiplayer server 19:00 H-H-H <> servers* 19:04 Dragonop H-H-H, well, that still doesn't explains it 19:11 Krock Calinou, please add the xkcd URL: https://xkcd.com/1296/ 19:27 Fixer Online multiplayer on both Sony’s PlayStation 4 and Xbox One requires a paid subscription, so you’ll need to shell out an extra $50 or $60 per year for that. 19:27 Fixer lol, really? 19:27 Fixer and i was thinking apple is anal 19:37 gamemanj Fixer: Well, we can't have a world where people can: 1. Write their own stuff 2. Have fun 3. Communicate (etcetcetc)... unless the companies can milk as much money as possible from it! After all, that would be Bad because of Reasons! 19:38 gamemanj Krock: Is "Aspen" a verb, and if so, what does it mean... 19:38 gamemanj ...and what would it have to do with trees? 19:38 Krock In english? 19:38 gamemanj Yes, in english. 19:39 Krock Seems to be a small town in Colorado.. no idea if it has any other meaning 19:39 Krock From google translator: "a poplar tree with rounded, long-stalked, and typically coarsely toothed leaves that tremble in even a slight breeze." 19:39 gamemanj Krock: Welp, this is one for XKCD 1296... ok, TBH it's apparently meant as a noun referring to a type of tree, but... https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/commit/6267f26027350f0b80d091044ddfc1177aa6fa47 19:40 RobbieF Hello 19:40 Krock gamemanj, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aspen It's just an alternative to the birch tree 19:41 est31 ahh thats where Calinou got his // comment reference for... 19:42 sofar gamemanj: I chose "Aspen" as the name since there are several mods out there already that add "Birch" trees, and so that would create confusion and possibly conflicts 19:42 Krock // HAAAAANDS 19:43 gamemanj sofar: If the amount of mods that add birch trees is above 1, then I think there's already confusion and conflicts... 19:44 sofar Krock: the Colorado town is named after the trees, they're extremely common in that part of the US 19:44 sofar gamemanj: hence a different name would not increase it 19:44 RobbieF Have you all seen the skin converter we launched over at https://minetest.tv ? It automatically updates our gaming servers with the skins too and if others want to use it, we could set it up to centralize skin management. 19:44 Krock sofar, ah okay. Here it would sound strange if there was a town called "Apfelbaum" (apple tree) 19:45 est31 https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/583597904 19:45 gamemanj centralized skin management sounds nice, but if all skins are downloaded to all servers, then you now have a scalability problem 19:46 est31 and the next village is called birnbaum 19:46 sofar lol 19:46 RobbieF gamemanj no... our system checks to see if the player is registered on the running server before syncing the skin. 19:46 gamemanj In which case everything's fine :) 19:46 RobbieF ;) 19:47 RobbieF it also watches the server to wait until there are no players online and then runs the tasks (which requires a quick minetestserver restart) 19:47 RobbieF won't restart if players are online 19:47 est31 quite funny some people add single trees to OSM https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/2478890601 19:47 gamemanj est31: ...what, are these especially old trees, or...? 19:47 est31 https://www.openstreetmap.org/search?query=apfelbaum 19:48 est31 gamemanj, idk, perhaps. if they are "notable" they probably get added 19:48 est31 not an OSM contributor, but probably they do have rules regarding that 19:48 gamemanj well, it's not like they've gone about adding every single tree in the entire universe 19:48 est31 "don't add every tree to OSM" 19:48 gamemanj else there'd be a lot more trees there 19:49 gamemanj simply on the basis that last I checked single standing trees aren't a thing I've seen anywhere 19:49 Krock est31, that's not a town :P 19:50 * gamemanj looks out of his window 19:50 * Krock looks at gamemanj frmo outside 19:50 gamemanj correction, single standing trees are something I've seen, nvm, perfectly possible 20:25 m8-1 hey 20:29 m8-1 Im so GLaD that minetest will be optimized for easy install.... I cant get MT 0.4.13 for ubuntu 20:30 est31 m8-1, I think upcoming 16.04 will have it 20:30 m8-1 i know... but it will be realeased in 63 days 20:31 m8-1 THE NOT SO SIMPLE MOBS MOD IS AWESOME #CAPS 20:41 paxcoder Calinou: hey, it's your messe hunting buddy form like 10 years ago 20:42 Calinou hi 20:42 paxcoder I just passed I just passed "Minilens". 20:42 paxcoder Imagine my surprise when I saw your name in the credits. 20:43 paxcoder What's that about? 20:44 paxcoder Are you the president of a secret free software gaming development society which I am not a part of because I don't develop games? 20:44 Calinou yes 20:44 Calinou #kobuge 20:44 est31 lol 20:45 paxcoder oh hi est31 20:45 est31 hello paxcoder 20:52 m8-1 just looked into the source... menu music? 20:56 * gamemanj gets out a drone army, and tells it to hover into #kobuge to look at stuff 20:57 gamemanj the drones are returning data now... they're using some sort of scripting language... 20:58 Calinou m8-1, it's supported but not used 20:59 m8-1 Is it planned to use? 20:59 est31 haha 21:00 est31 not right now. 21:00 m8-1 Well... have to go ... bye 21:00 paxcoder bye m8-1 21:01 gamemanj interesting... KOBUGE has a lot of projects, but at what stage are they... 21:01 Calinou https://lut.im/BUviMf47Cm/LvcGfrWltTDbpZjY.jpg 21:01 Calinou fanmail 21:02 est31 hah 21:02 * gamemanj goes to minetest.net and finds the site is not at all messed up 21:02 * gamemanj has a hunch, and wonders if he should disable Javascript to see things in ATL-vision 21:08 RobbieF Hi all. Is anyone able to assist me with the IRC mod? 21:13 Fixer no MT 0.4.13 in ubuntu? 21:14 est31 Fixer, no unfortunately 21:14 paxcoder Is any voxel game using terrain calculation and writing down only diffs? 21:15 est31 paxcoder, not that I know 21:15 Fixer i thought ubuntu is way newer than debian 21:15 est31 no Fixer in fact ubuntu takes from debian 21:15 est31 they just say "okay we take this package too" 21:15 Fixer debian unstable? 21:15 est31 thats all of the work they do 21:15 Fixer they take from sid? 21:15 Obani RobbieF, find mods creator and try to reach him ^^ (or wait for someone to see your message that can help you :p) 21:15 est31 idk 21:16 est31 the one thats rolling release 21:16 est31 not the testing one 21:16 Fixer oh, well, year_of_the_linux_desktop.png 21:16 Calinou year_of_the_windows_desktop.bmp 21:16 est31 paxcoder, writing down diffs only is quite a good concept, but it requires terrain generation to be 100% deterministic 21:17 gamemanj "Year of the linux desktop"... first we need "Year Schools Actually Care About OS Diversity" 21:17 Fixer it is bizarre that you can't install new software in debian or ubuntu easily 21:17 paxcoder est31: sure 21:17 Fixer need to compile or look for repos 21:17 RobbieF yeah... sad that the one guy who shared the exact same problem as me in the forum then simply said "nevermind - got it working" but didn't say how :( 21:18 gamemanj RobbieF: Maybe describe your problem, also, URL of the mod? 21:18 RobbieF Sure gamemanj. 21:19 RobbieF Mod is https://github.com/kaeza/minetest-irc.git 21:19 RobbieF I finally got it so my server will at least load... 21:19 RobbieF but it never does connect 21:19 RobbieF ERROR[Server]: IRC: Connection error: irc.freenode.net: /home/robbie/.minetest/mods/irc/irc/init.lua:99: Operation already in progress -- Reconnecting in ten minutes... 21:20 RobbieF I have two servers running on the same box... 21:20 Fixer even fedora has 0.4.12 21:20 gamemanj "Operation already in progress?" 21:20 RobbieF so the "operation already in progress" could theoretically be the other server... but that other one doesn't connect either 21:20 RobbieF but both servers say this error 21:20 RobbieF and never connect 21:20 gamemanj and apparently this is on line 99 of init.lua, except... 21:21 Fixer lol https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/3737 21:21 Fixer talking about obsession with water 21:21 RobbieF Line 99: assert(s:connect(host, port)) 21:21 gamemanj We're looking at different scripts... 21:21 RobbieF bahah 21:22 RobbieF whoops 21:22 gamemanj Oh, apparently irc/irc 21:22 gamemanj not just irc/ 21:22 RobbieF correct 21:22 RobbieF it's recursive 21:22 gamemanj That makes perfect sense! Not. 21:22 RobbieF irc is the mod, irc/irc is the lua irc socket 21:23 afflatus I just crashed on an Emerge-0 error. Could someone explain emerging to me? 21:24 gamemanj RobbieF: "operation already in progress" is apparently something to do with the socket being non-blocking. Now, why it's nonblocking... 21:24 RobbieF I hope YOU know what that means - lol 21:25 gamemanj I know what it means, but it shouldn't apply in this situation since the socket's only just been created, no time to set the non-blocking option. 21:25 gamemanj Just does a settimeout and then connects 21:26 RobbieF this doesn't have anything to do with it, does it? secure.trusted_mods = irc 21:26 RobbieF "You will also need to add IRC to your trusted mods if you haven't disabled mod security." 21:26 RobbieF i have that line in my minetest.conf 21:26 gamemanj Ok, so that shouldn't be a problem then... 21:26 gamemanj Besides, that would likely be a different error 21:29 gamemanj RobbieF: What's the timeout set to? 21:30 RobbieF whatever the default is... 21:30 gamemanj You know what, this is probably a terrible idea, but just comment line 98 of irc/irc/init.lua 21:30 RobbieF lol 21:31 RobbieF I'm thinking first, maybe try irc.debug 21:31 RobbieF I just HATE kicking my players every time I have to restart 21:32 afflatus emerge.cpp:2d4: virtual void* EmergeThread::run(): A fatal error occured: Invalid range (max < min) 21:33 afflatus ^ Means absolutely nothing to me ^ 21:34 Dragonop afflatus, doesn't that means that max is less than min? That's all I understand from that 21:35 afflatus Right. I assume it's something to do with mapgen 21:35 gamemanj RobbieF: If LuaSocket is setting the socket to non-blocking, and then isn't handling the resulting response properly... 21:35 afflatus Or at least the appearance of blocks in the world 21:37 Dragonop I guess. But I probably know as much as you do, so I can't help, let's wait for an answer 21:37 gamemanj afflatus: Which mods are you using? I did a quick search and the message is in noise.cpp (though why it wouldn't come out as a Lua error...) 21:37 paxcoder est31: see OpenSimplex and if you're mathemtaically inclined (or just want an overview of alternatives): https://www-sop.inria.fr/reves/Basilic/2010/LLCDDELPZ10/LLCDDELPZ10STARPNF.pdf 21:38 RobbieF not sure how to tell that gamemanj 21:38 gamemanj RobbieF: I'm also not sure, it's mostly a guess 21:38 RobbieF debug tells me nothing more 21:39 gamemanj Figured as such. Again, try commenting line 98. And make sure whatever IRC server you're connecting to is online before starting your server, since this probably won't go well if it isn't... 21:40 gamemanj (the timeout is there for good reason, but if it's causing problems like this... what to do?) 21:40 afflatus gamemanj: thanks for looking that up 21:40 RobbieF okay will try that 21:41 RobbieF is # comment in lua? 21:41 afflatus The whole game is a mod 21:41 gamemanj no, -- 21:41 RobbieF thanks 21:41 afflatus And I think this is more to do with my mapgen than anything else 21:42 RobbieF trying without 98 21:42 gamemanj ... 21:42 gamemanj afflatus: Aaand now your problem becomes crystal clear 21:42 gamemanj afflatus: Presumably you wrote your mapgen in C++? 21:43 afflatus No 21:44 gamemanj in which case, I have something I need to test... 21:44 afflatus I'm guessing one of the ore defs has backwards y limits 21:45 afflatus (Player was mining at the time 21:48 RobbieF no change gamemanj 21:48 RobbieF well... it didn't give me the error obviously 21:48 gamemanj RobbieF: In which case I have no idea... 21:48 RobbieF but it didn't connect 21:48 RobbieF lol 21:48 RobbieF thanks for trying :) 22:13 H-H-H i use the irc mod on my server and only had to instal luasocket5.1 for it to work and am scratching my head as to why your having issues 22:19 Hijiri It would probably be nice if minetest provided more convenience functions for generating formspec elements 22:20 Hijiri If you want to do "image[" .. x .. "," .. y .. ";" .. w .. "," .. h .. ";" .. minetest.formspec_escape ... etc etc you will probably want to define your own function anyway after a few times 22:20 Hijiri or maybe before the first time, if you predict the need 22:21 Hijiri so probably it would make sense to have some standard functions e.g. call minetest.fs.image(x,y,w,h,texture_name) to generate the formspec string for that image 22:22 Hijiri otherwise people will end up redefining them for every mod that needs it anyway 22:22 Hijiri I guess w * 5/4 and h * 15/13 if you want it to match up with non-image elements... 22:23 Hijiri why are images scaled differently in the first place? 22:24 RobbieF H-H-H yeah I installed luasocket5.1 and everything else... 22:24 RobbieF OHMIGOSH 22:24 RobbieF It JUST hit me! After all this struggling 22:24 RobbieF your comment made me think "you make it sound so simple" 22:24 RobbieF FACE PALM 22:24 RobbieF csf/lfd... 22:24 RobbieF 6667 won't be open! 22:24 RobbieF DUH! 22:27 RobbieF YES! That was it. DOUBLE FACE PALM 22:27 RobbieF thanks for being a sounding board, and for attempting to help me... 22:34 H-H-H lol glad you got it working although word of warning , if you havent noticed allready if irc server,nick and something else is missing from minetest.conf and the mod is enabled it will crash on game start 22:35 RobbieF thanks :) 22:35 RobbieF it was strictly my firewall... I had it setup correctly all this time. 22:35 H-H-H o crap you just reminded me lol ive left one of my servers in the dmz in my router lol i must move it back 22:36 RobbieF there, we helped eachother :) 22:36 RobbieF haha 22:36 H-H-H yep lol 22:36 RobbieF have a nice night. 22:48 ShadowNinja Want to try Mumble? : https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/3739 22:50 Hijiri +1 22:51 est31 cool idea 22:54 Out`Of`Control wow 23:16 Fixer now people can talk with each other 23:27 afflatus ShadowNinja: yes :-) Nice one 23:32 afflatus It will probably be at least a week before I can think about deploying it though. 23:44 kaeza_ o/ 23:44 giho Mew