Time  Nick           Message
00:00 afflatus       If I'm using a noise_thesh(h)old for ores does a higher value make them rarer?
00:02 kaadmy         gah
00:02 kaadmy         its a huge nightmare to support vanilla doom with wads that have custom patches/flats
00:06 kaadmy         anybody want to play?
00:06 kaadmy         !server pixture
00:06 MinetestBot    kaadmy: pixture | pixture.quelcom.xyz | Clients: 0/10, 0/1 | Version: 0.4.13-dev / pixture | Ping: 11ms
00:07 afflatus       So it does, whoops
00:07 jordan4ibanez  is technic still under development?
00:10 DrCool         i just install minetest on ubuntu and I don't see an icon to launch it.
00:12 DrCool         ok, started it from terminal
00:16 DrCool         looks interesting.
00:17 kaadmy         hmm
00:18 kaadmy         for a "welcome" mod(asks if you agree to the rules), should it pop up every time you join without interact?
00:18 kaadmy         and should it be available via a command to show it again?
00:18 rubenwardy     yes
00:18 rubenwardy     one sec
00:19 rubenwardy     I made such a mod
00:19 kaadmy         i know
00:19 kaadmy         there's lots of them ;)
00:19 rubenwardy     https://github.com/rubenwardy/capturetheflag/tree/master/mods/rules
00:19 kaadmy         i'm making one for melzua's server
00:19 rubenwardy     don't reinvent the wheel
00:19 rubenwardy     :P
00:19 kaadmy         i'll re-write it anyway
00:19 kaadmy         practice ;)
00:19 rubenwardy     that is wtfpl
00:20 kaadmy         <kaadmy> i'll re-write it anyway
00:20 rubenwardy     That one has the advantages of being FOSS (agreerules is propietary) and is very simple
00:20 rubenwardy     Ok, have fun
00:20 kaadmy         it's almost done already ^-^
00:21 kaadmy         and you have a problem with  your rules mod
00:21 kaadmy         i think..
00:21 kaadmy         if you type /rules then close the formspec by pressing escape it'll kick you
00:21 rubenwardy     lol
00:21 kaadmy         ah nevermind
00:21 rubenwardy     easy to fix though
00:21 kaadmy         it checks against that already
00:21 rubenwardy     yes: https://github.com/rubenwardy/capturetheflag/blob/master/mods/rules/init.lua#L75
00:22 kaadmy         i saw that afterwards :D
00:22 kaadmy         i'll make mine not as harsh
00:23 rubenwardy     as in, add guest support?
00:23 kaadmy         it won't kick you, it just won't grant you interact
00:23 kaadmy         you can just accept later after looking around
00:23 rubenwardy     I haven't released that mod as a separate mod, so it's not configurable
00:23 rubenwardy     but would be trivial to change
00:23 rubenwardy     but write your own mod
00:23 rubenwardy     good for learning
00:23 rubenwardy     I do that a lot
00:24 kaadmy         currently 30 lines and nearly done
00:24 kaadmy         can labels in formspecs handle \n characters as newlines?
00:25 rubenwardy     not sure
00:25 rubenwardy     I wouldn't be surprised either way
00:25 rubenwardy     you should use a textlist though, to allow scrolling
00:26 kaadmy         will do
00:26 kaadmy         https://github.com/rubenwardy/capturetheflag/blob/master/mods/rules/init.lua#L17
00:26 kaadmy         "       to trap team mates on purpuse.",
00:27 kaadmy         huh, i didn't know that was how to spell purpose
00:27 rubenwardy     lol
00:27 rubenwardy     I do all my own proofreading XD
00:28 rubenwardy     fixed
00:28 kaadmy         what proofreading O.O
00:28 rubenwardy     It's pretty good compared to some other mods I've read
00:28 rubenwardy     although can't give examples
00:45 Fixer          did >40 2min fps tests with various settings today
00:45 Fixer          on a special map
00:51 kaadmy         rubenwardy: with your rules mod, couldn't you just press escape to close the formspec?
00:51 kaadmy         you don't check for that
00:51 rubenwardy     It still sends quit=true
00:51 swift110       hey rubenwardy
00:51 rubenwardy     I did test for that
00:55 MinetestBot    02[git] 04kaeza -> 03minetest/minetest: builtin: Fix `print` crashing on nil "holes". 134301953 https://git.io/vg4lC (152016-02-08T01:55:02+01:00)
01:00 kaadmy         ok, pixture now has a welcome mod builtin
01:03 rubenwardy     yay
01:07 RealBadAngel   kaadmy, what does it do?
01:18 rubenwardy     RealBadAngel, displays a formspec when joining a server displaying the rules, then gives privs when you click yes
01:27 RealBadAngel   quite nice idea
01:28 rubenwardy     done before many times
01:28 rubenwardy     <k__dmy> i'll re-write it anyway
02:03 jordan4ibanez  Is this the only up to date car mod? https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=7967
02:12 DrCool         everyone is watching the SuperBowl...
02:12 DrCool         probably
02:14 RealBadAngel   rubenwardy, why do you have still fucked up wielded?
02:14 rubenwardy     because 0.4.13 stable
02:14 cornernote     hey all
02:14 RealBadAngel   oh hi cornernote :)
02:15 RealBadAngel   good to see you alive
02:15 rubenwardy     I use latest dev on my server and on my GNU/Linux machine
02:15 RealBadAngel   rubenwardy, so, you have put there wielded only, without inventory, yes?
02:15 cornernote     question to anyone (to get you thinking)...  A bat and a ball cost $1.10 .. the bat costs $1.00 more than the ball... how much does the ball cost?
02:15 rubenwardy     yeah. The code exactly as given
02:16 rubenwardy     $0.05
02:16 cornernote     nice
02:17 rubenwardy     I got one. Expand (a-x)*(b-x)*(c-x)*...*(z-x)
02:17 rubenwardy     Not a very good one, I admit
02:17 cornernote     what do you mean expand ?
02:18 cornernote     simplify ?
02:18 RealBadAngel   explode?
02:19 rubenwardy     expand means 3(x+y) === 3x + y
02:19 rubenwardy     and you can also simplify
02:19 rubenwardy     so you should end up with a very simple form
02:19 rubenwardy     *simpler form
02:20 cornernote     3(x+y) === 3x + y ??
02:20 rubenwardy     oops
02:20 rubenwardy     3x + 3y :S
02:20 cornernote     ok
02:20 DrCool         ha, i was confused also..
02:20 DrCool         :)
02:22 cornernote     the expansion of the problem seems complicated... i don't think i'll get it, see if anyone else does...
02:23 cornernote     ahh, ok, its 0
02:23 rubenwardy     XD
02:23 cornernote     *(x-x) === *0
02:23 rubenwardy     anyway, gtg
02:28 ssieb          I'm using v6 mapgen and biomes.  Does anyone know where to find clay?  Last I played quite a while back, it used to be found at water level in some places, but we haven't been able to find any clay at all anywhere.
02:49 Hijiri         is it possible with a nodebox drawtype to use different textures for the same face on different nodeboxes?
02:57 RealBadAngel   with nodeboxes texure is mapped on whole sized cube
02:57 Hijiri         ok
02:58 Hijiri         well ok, I'll have to make a mixed texture
02:58 RealBadAngel   faces of individual nodeboxes will get coresponding pieces from whole face
02:58 RealBadAngel   if you need different texures for individual nodeboxes you need mesh drawtyope
02:59 Hijiri         I just made mixed textures
02:59 Hijiri         so I can map the parts I want onto the right nodeboxes
02:59 RealBadAngel   sometimes thats enough
02:59 Hijiri         I guess if there were multiple parts with the same parts of the same face exposed it wouldn't work
02:59 RealBadAngel   but for more flexibility, meshes are only solution
03:00 RealBadAngel   exactly
03:49 jordan4ibanez  Can I make an entity only visible to one person?
03:56 kaadmy         jordan4ibanez: i don't think so
06:57 kaeza          o/
09:05 MinetestBot    02[git] 04RealBadAngel -> 03minetest/minetest: Cleanup selection mesh code, add shaders for halo and selection boxes 13b44da49 https://git.io/vg45Z (152016-02-08T03:57:42-05:00)
09:53 JamesTait      Good morning all!  Happy Monday, and happy Chinese New Year! 😃
09:54 red-001        good morning
09:55 Krock          moin
09:55 RealBadAngel   早上好
09:59 JamesTait      Bless you!
10:01 afflatus       I'm taking the grailtest server down for a bit until I can figure out why it keepscrashing
10:02 Krock          debug logs?
10:02 afflatus       As I'm not getting any specific error messages I'm assuming this has something to do with leaky globals
10:03 Krock          recently tried to stop a lua script execution, using a timeout timer.. the only thing that I learned was that Lua doesn't like to be interrupted from outside
10:04 afflatus       I'm going to start looking at functions more closely
10:04 afflatus       right
10:05 afflatus       will luachecker work with minetest code?
10:06 afflatus       I'll find out soon enough ;-)
10:08 afflatus       The crashes happen on major map changes, i.e. exploring or digging a lot in a short space of time
10:26 afflatus       Well it looks like luacheck might give me something to work on
10:26 afflatus       I can see I'm going to have to go through nod by mod
11:42 afflatus       Does the dedicated_server_step setting affect garbage collection?
11:43 sfan5          most likely not
11:43 sfan5          lua does gc on it's own
11:43 afflatus       I know but you can tweak it
11:45 afflatus       I might try reducing it anyway as I have it set relatively hgh
11:45 afflatus       and probaby don't need to anymore
11:46 afflatus       I'm just looking to quick ways of reducing memory usage to give me time to go through the code with a fine toothcomb
11:47 afflatus       The other option, of course, is to leave the server down
12:41 Fixer          ._.
12:43 Fixer          RealBadAngel, funny, how when I disable shaders on my singleplayer test map, it gives me +8 fps boost, and +9000 stutter boost
13:07 Fixer          RealBadAngel, "Use tangent space meshes only when shaders are enabled" performance went down by 2% ::)
13:08 Fixer          damn ati
13:08 Fixer          tangent + meshes in inventory + last shader selection thing does not affect performance on default config
13:08 Fixer          so i will look at filmic hdr now
13:19 ObsidianZ3R0   hey all!
13:19 ObsidianZ3R0   anybody awake?
13:19 red-001        yes
13:20 ObsidianZ3R0   awesome
13:21 ObsidianZ3R0   programming in lua for mine test, is there anyway to get the console output ? i want to send it out via socket
13:21 ObsidianZ3R0   looked at the api documents and didn't see it.
13:21 red-001        nope
13:22 red-001        afaik
13:22 red-001        you could open the file
13:22 red-001        you need to configure minetest to run the mod without a sandbox
13:23 ObsidianZ3R0   crap...
13:23 red-001        why do you need conesol output?
13:23 red-001        console*
13:23 ObsidianZ3R0   monitoring
13:24 red-001        you could get output form lua mods...
13:24 ObsidianZ3R0   OH never thought of that!
13:24 red-001        redefine print()
13:25 ObsidianZ3R0   maybe i should start with something simple... getting chat
13:25 red-001        but minetest doesn't have lua socket by default...
13:25 red-001        yeah
13:25 ObsidianZ3R0   i'll pipe that to the socket
13:26 ObsidianZ3R0   nope... i noticed.
13:26 ObsidianZ3R0   installed and tested lua socket wrote a simple echo server
13:27 ObsidianZ3R0   plan on building my own protocol and then attempt to control nodes via socket
13:27 ObsidianZ3R0   an extension to digilines
13:27 ObsidianZ3R0   a socket node would be awesome
13:27 ObsidianZ3R0   using http post would be the end result.
13:28 ObsidianZ3R0   then you could create all sorts of web interfaces for stuff...
13:28 red-001        nice?
13:28 red-001        sounds useful
13:28 ObsidianZ3R0   yeah i am a java programmer... so lua is pretty new...
13:29 ObsidianZ3R0   reminds me of BASIC... haven't used that since the 90's
13:32 ObsidianZ3R0   anyway i'll go look at the docs for getting chat.
13:33 red-001        dev wiki is outdated
13:33 red-001        lua_api.txt is more up to date
13:34 ObsidianZ3R0   k k thanks red-001
13:34 ObsidianZ3R0   want my minetest server address?
13:34 ObsidianZ3R0   i am very very new to minetest, i crash my server hourly lol
13:35 red-001        sure
13:35 ObsidianZ3R0   not sure but i think my minetest_game is outdated...
13:35 ObsidianZ3R0   com.fragninja.com
13:35 ObsidianZ3R0   i have a mumble server as well
13:35 ObsidianZ3R0   not on it at the moment though.... but it's there same address
14:06 ObsidianZ3R0   well red-001 got a simple http server running in lua
14:08 red-001        nice
14:08 ObsidianZ3R0   i wonder if RTC would be better then generic sockets...
14:09 red-001        so you could make something like a status page?
14:09 ObsidianZ3R0   red-001 i could create an http not for digilines
14:09 ObsidianZ3R0   sorry i could create an interface to digilines
14:10 ObsidianZ3R0   basically you could send/recieve  signals on channels from a blocks via http
14:10 ObsidianZ3R0   but the more i think about it websockets might be a better idea... and use WebRTC
14:16 Fixer          RealBadAngel, false alarm, filmic hdr is good to go, practically no fps impact, however found crash to desktop, more info in PR 3612
15:53 Telesight      Hello all ... Is there a way to get a pipeworks deployer active on distance when in the deployer area is no player active?
15:55 giho           Yes, you should use mod that foreceloads chunks, e.g. forceload
15:56 Telesight      giho: Ok I will dive into that ...
15:56 giho           I think technic had chunk loaders too, but I'm not sure.
15:58 Telesight      Well, for me action A must start action B on distance, but it does not work because in the B area is no player at that moment ...
16:01 Fixer_         red-001, compiled farmap?
16:07 swift110-phone Good morning
16:30 red-001        fixer yes
16:32 Fixer_         red-001, nice, can you share package with me?
16:32 proller        http://build.freeminer.org/freeminermt-0.4.13.7-1166-g90f468d-win32.zip 8)
16:36 red-001        sure like my compile a release build
16:36 red-001        let*
17:14 ObsidianZ3R0   is freeminer the same as minetest red-001 ?
17:15 kaadmy         ObsidianZ3R0: a bit different
17:15 red-001        not much
17:15 ObsidianZ3R0   kaadmy, mod compatible?
17:15 kaadmy         maybe..
17:15 red-001        partly
17:15 red-001        iorc
17:15 kaadmy         i think the minetest mod name namespace is changed to freeminer
17:15 red-001        iirc mapgens aren't
17:16 red-001        kaadmy nope it's changed to core
17:16 ObsidianZ3R0   ahhhh right
17:16 ObsidianZ3R0   minetest is still actively developed though
17:16 ObsidianZ3R0   freeminer is a fork? or a complete rewrite?
17:16 est31          fork
17:16 red-001        btw you can use core instead of minetest as the namespace in minetest
17:17 proller        mods compatible
17:17 est31          pushing the "fork" button is much easier than rewriting everything
17:17 ObsidianZ3R0   rewrites usually clean things up est31
17:17 kaadmy         ah
17:17 red-001        they did rewrite water code
17:18 ObsidianZ3R0   optimize stuff etc...
17:18 proller        702 files changed, 48427 insertions(+), 18516 deletions(-)
17:18 est31          ObsidianZ3R0, well talk to proller perhaps you can convince him to rewrite everything
17:18 ObsidianZ3R0   est31, ..
17:18 ObsidianZ3R0   anyway, as i was saying minetest is still in active development right?
17:19 proller        active refactoring for refactoring ;)
17:19 RealBadAngel   ObsidianZ3R0, https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commits/master
17:19 red-001        I wish minetest had a main menu similar to freeminers
17:20 RealBadAngel   nah
17:20 est31          ObsidianZ3R0, it is
17:21 red-001        proller can freeminer be compiled in the same way as minetest?
17:21 proller        even easier!
17:21 proller        curl https://raw.githubusercontent.com/freeminer/freeminer/master/build/debian_ogles.sh | sh
17:21 proller        oops
17:22 red-001        on windows
17:22 proller        MUCH easier ;)
17:22 proller        https://github.com/freeminer/freeminer/tree/master/build/windows_vs2015
17:23 Krock          in windows > 5.1 *cough*
17:23 red-001        I don't want to use virtualbox for compiling a game
17:23 proller        or if you have vs2013 : https://github.com/freeminer/freeminer/tree/master/build/windows
17:24 red-001        what is NUget.exe?
17:24 proller        virus!
17:25 proller        oops..
17:25 est31          nuget is windows package manager
17:25 est31          very good tool
17:25 red-001        and why is virtualbox needed?
17:26 proller        no, only if you under linux
17:26 red-001        oh
17:26 red-001        ok
17:26 ObsidianZ3R0   no native binary for linux?
17:26 est31          Krock, your OS isn't supported anymore, by almost anybody
17:27 est31          Krock, btw which browser do you use?
17:27 Krock          IE 6
17:27 Krock          nah, just kidding. firefox
17:27 proller        1.0 ?
17:27 Krock          42
17:27 Krock          0.42 beta version <.<
17:28 est31          lol
17:28 est31          40 days test version
17:28 Krock          what? I've only got three weeks
17:29 Krock          I'm reinstalling it everytime cuz I haven't found a way to turn off the activation yet
17:31 red-001        what os you you have Krock ?
17:32 red-001        windows xp?
17:32 Krock          5.1 aka XP
17:32 Krock          upgraded last week from win 98 and I'm very happy about this
17:33 ObsidianZ3R0   the activation for windows xp doesn't work anymore?
17:33 Krock          I'm talking about the activation of firefox <.<
17:33 est31          if Krock updated last week to windows xp, he must have activated it
17:33 red-001        activation of firefox ?!
17:34 ObsidianZ3R0   what?!
17:34 Krock          est31, but firefox still gives me troubles
17:35 est31          you need pro version, its much better
17:35 Krock          Seriously, if there's anyone in here who this is serious content should /quit right now
17:35 red-001        ?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!????!??!!?
17:35 Krock          *thinks this is
17:35 CWz            why was krock stuck with windows 98
17:35 CWz            minetest doesn't run on windows 98
17:35 Krock          est31, but it costs about $240
17:36 red-001        is this a joke?
17:36 CWz            whoops
17:36 red-001        firefox pro?!
17:36 red-001        ohh
17:36 red-001        you mean windows xp pro
17:36 Obani          .¬.
17:36 est31          no, its dead serious red-001.
17:36 melzua         krock was following the downgrade path
17:37 Krock          so upgrading from 98 to xp was a downgrade?
17:37 Krock          please explain
17:37 CWz            XP was last super good windows everything started turning down hill when Vista showed up
17:37 melzua         you should end on windows 3.1
17:37 proller        why not NT 4.0 ?
17:37 CWz            why not MS-DOs
17:38 Krock          melzua, I cna't connect the cable to the wireless adapter in there... throws some kind of error
17:38 melzua         XD
17:38 CWz            I remember back when i was kid i remember windows 95 and it's theme song
17:39 Krock          and the "goodtime" song on the CD
17:39 CWz            uh
17:39 est31          my first computer was XP
17:39 edj            My first computer was a TRS-80 Color Computer running at ALMOST 1 MHz (yes, that megahertz)  :)
17:39 CWz            there was no userfriendly linux back than
17:39 est31          is there now
17:40 edj            In high resolution mode, my TRS-80 Color Computer had a rockin' 320x200 resolution!
17:40 Krock          what? there's 320x200 resolution yet?
17:40 edj            Or maybe is was 256xSomething.  I don't remember anymore since it was like 35 years ago
17:41 Fixer          Win 7 was the last good
17:41 CWz            Ah the 80's back when Playing GTA would result in a jail sentence
17:41 Krock          Fixer, like in the bisect diagnostics: Last known good: 7
17:41 Fixer          everything went downhill (tm) after Win XP release (trollface)
17:42 Fixer          that feel of cheap product for housewifes
17:42 CWz            Windows VISTA was a dev LSD trip
17:42 Krock          good old times where holls existed to go down
17:42 Krock          *hills
17:42 edj            Win7 is a little painful these days if you do a new install, since MS hasn't rolled out an updated service pack in forever, so you install Win7 and then watch it update and reboot for like 24 hours
17:42 Fixer          Krock, now they are deep under, lowering the bar (tm)
17:43 Krock          edj, there are complete update packs which do it in one step
17:43 edj            Krock: Official ones from MS?
17:43 Krock          Fixer, ah I see
17:43 edj            I installed Win7 into a VM recently and used MS's iso download tool to grab Win7
17:43 edj            And it took f-o-r-e-v-e-r to install updates
17:43 edj            After the initial install
17:43 Krock          edj, rather provided by pitying people
17:44 edj            Krock: Oh, yeah, I Do Not Trust those
17:44 edj            Thus took the official MS path
17:44 CWz            windows has no software centre. best os? my ass
17:44 Krock          edj, all I can say about them that the ones for Win XP were fine. One reboot and done :)
17:44 Fixer          edj, don't forget to uninstall some crappy "updates"
17:44 edj            Krock: No hidden malware?
17:44 est31          in linux you have one reboot maximum
17:45 * edj          trusts Linux WAY more
17:45 est31          never understood why windows requires multiple reboots
17:45 Krock          CWz, it allows the users to choose one because one from M$' production would be horrible :P
17:45 Fixer          edj, there are tools that integrate everything into ISO
17:45 edj            Fixer: Oh like build-your-own yeah
17:45 Fixer          est31, tradition (trollface)
17:45 Krock          edj, nope. No single virus or strange software
17:45 Fixer          est31, that's because you are geek or admin or both
17:46 CWz            Windows 10 is like inviting over Microsoft to use your toilet and shower and refrigerator without cleaning ther hands first
17:46 Fixer          install XP... hell Win10 to average human and it will be ruined after some time
17:46 Krock          est31, because it takes time to find holes to put the bugs in
17:46 est31          lol
17:47 edj            I use Win10 because games  :(  Otherwise I'd be on Mac or Linux
17:47 CWz            windows 7 can games as well
17:48 Krock          bomberman, tetris, pong..
17:48 edj            I think my machine came with 8.1 so...
17:48 CWz            I hate when they do that
17:49 Fixer          my Win98SE on Duron 900Mhz boot time was faster then on Core i3 3.3GHz and Win7, not to say first used <1Gb of space, and 7 uses 30.5GB
17:49 Krock          Fixer, there were much less things to load and prepare
17:49 Fixer          30.5 GB for f-ing /Windows folder
17:49 edj            My favorite OS is probably iOS because it Just Works  :)
17:49 CWz            when I buy a computer i don't like it when someass leaves a steaming turd in it.
17:49 Krock          not because it takes less time to write than windows?
17:50 proller        good thing about win10+vs2015 - you can install into vbox without hacking serials annd use 1 month
17:50 proller        then just recreate vm ;)
17:50 Fixer          I have impression that celeron 366MHz with Win98SE will boot faster than my Win7 (little under 2 min, it loads hexchat, quiterss, everything, utorrent, not much)
17:51 Krock          and the NSA is happy too
17:51 Fixer          Krock, why worry? lots of people happily document their lifes via facebook
17:51 Fixer          lives*
17:51 Fixer          or lifes*
17:51 Fixer          whatever
17:51 Krock          right. > lots of
17:52 est31          and I talk on a publicly logged IRC channel
17:52 est31          totally private in here
17:55 Krock          we all know your name, cell phone number, the place where your house lives..
17:56 Fixer          Krock, also, people put so much info that NSA don't really need that much spies anymore, example from my home, in Ukraine lots of special people browse enemy accounts from neighbour country, and guess what, they are so full of info/evidence and crazy useful stuff (movement, participation in war, etc). NSA should give at least some kind of NSA prize to Facebook founder. And people are buying that :}
17:57 Krock          lol
17:58 Fixer          i don't understand people, they put all their lifes for viewing
17:58 Krock          the sugarhill has enough money .. doesn't need another prize :P
17:59 Krock          zucker berg -> from de -> sugar hill
17:59 Fixer          social networks distracted people from IM, that at least got some encryption
18:00 Fixer          and that Skype kind of "encryption" sucks
18:00 est31          doesnt suck if you are the state
18:00 Fixer          right
18:01 Fixer          but terrorists will blow up anything anyway without skype or even internet, old style
18:01 Fixer          who cares
18:02 Fixer          security at airport? phhh, take AK and kill 100 people at other places
18:02 Fixer          and it is just 3 or so terrorists
18:03 Krock          C4 helps too
18:03 Fixer          so what now? everyone should buy safe cage in a prison and have "happy" lifes
18:03 Fixer          or ban knifes
18:03 Fixer          when will they ban?
18:03 Fixer          seriosly
18:04 Fixer          you can kill someone just this second
18:04 Fixer          ban people
18:04 Fixer          be happy
18:05 Fixer          Stallman was right (trollface)
18:09 Fixer          and that SOPA bullshit sneaked in a US budget, that was sooo looow, even by Eastern Europe standards
18:09 * Fixer        eat
18:13 kaeza          Greetings
18:15 Matthew_Moore  Hello?
18:15 giho           Greetings, mortal.
18:16 Matthew_Moore  I am trying to figure out where my SinglePlayer game is saved on Linux, So i can move it to another machine.
18:17 Matthew_Moore  I know where it is in Windows. But i can't find the Directory in Linux.
18:17 giho           ~/.minetest/worlds
18:17 red-001        ./minetest/worlds
18:17 red-001        in you user folder
18:18 Matthew_Moore  Ok. Thanks.
18:18 red-001        !next
18:18 MinetestBot    Another satisfied customer. Next!
18:18 Matthew_Moore  :)
18:20 giho           I love to join linux channels and say Folder instead of Directory...
18:20 * giho         hides
18:20 * red-001      *sigh*
18:20 Calinou        Fixer> Stallman was right (trollface)
18:20 Calinou        there's a subreddit for it
18:20 Calinou        /r/StallmanWasRight
18:21 red-001        there is a subreddit for everything
18:23 red-001        proller in what way would you say freeminer is better then minetest?
18:24 proller        Real liquids, weather, seasons
18:24 proller        fast reliable network protocol, fast multi-threaded server, utf8 chat, built in /stat command
18:24 est31          reliable lol
18:24 red-001        weather written in c++?
18:24 proller        нуы
18:24 proller        yes
18:25 red-001        interesting
18:25 proller        http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCIRUqUD0bJ2wpxTQ01gbG3g
18:25 proller        core algo with lua definition
18:29 red-001        is the slow lava cooling an ABM?
18:30 giho           proller: would lua-based-weather-mod-like weather ( http://me0w.net/pit/1444559306 ) be possible and actually less laggy in freeminer?
18:31 ObsidianZ3R0   proller, how well does it run on older hardware
18:31 ObsidianZ3R0   or tablets and phones?
18:32 proller        https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.freeminer.freeminer
18:33 proller        giho, your video about visuals - no, its not supported yet
18:33 proller        fm weather about dynamic core heat-humidity map
18:34 afflatus       I'm doing really well today, I have now successfully b0rked my minetest client. :D oh joy
18:34 afflatus       Installing luacheck wasn't such a good idea, now I have to figure what's blocking the client
18:35 proller        visuals near RealBadAngel 's shaders work
18:35 giho           proller: in minetest I can just ban people to make server less laggy :3
18:35 afflatus       The menu works ok, but when I get to
18:35 afflatus       INFO[Main]: Audio: Deinitializing...
18:35 afflatus       It hangs
18:39 afflatus       regardless of version, game or world
18:42 afflatus       Ych y fi!
18:49 proller        giho, in freeminer i can have 100+ players online without lags
18:53 afflatus       This isn't so much a minetest problem as the state of Lua and Irrlicht packages in Debian testing.
18:54 Midnight_Mane  looking for a server for some one who just starting out
18:55 afflatus       Probably any server with between 1 and 6 players
18:56 afflatus       natuarlly I would recommend Grail Test, but that's not minetest_game
19:02 Fixer          Calinou, LOL
19:04 Fixer          iPhone 6s rendered immediately and permanently bricked by latest iOS 9 designed to detect 'unauthorised' third-party repairs
19:04 Fixer          shitware
19:05 Fixer          Feds don’t need crypto backdoors to spy—your TV and toothbrush will do
19:05 Fixer          true
19:05 Fixer          amount of IoT BS is over 9000
19:07 Calinou        BSoT
19:08 Fixer          http://www.zmatt.net/unlocking-my-lenovo-laptop-part-1/
19:08 Fixer          jeez, so much shitware
19:08 Fixer          "The system does not support batteries that are not genuine Lenovo-made or authorized. The system will continue to boot, but may not charge unauthorized batteries."
19:08 Fixer          lol
19:09 Calinou        Fixer, yeah, battery DRM is already a thing since a few years
19:09 Calinou        Dell also does it
19:09 Fixer          pfff
19:09 Fixer          Calinou, wth?
19:09 Fixer          now this bullshit?
19:12 Fixer          "was told, that there are no replacement batteries for any MacBooks older than 5 years"
19:12 Fixer          trololo
19:12 Fixer          who needs 5 year old shitware, right? buy new crappy one!
19:14 Fixer          "Apple glues batteries"
19:14 Fixer          0_o
19:15 Krock          "New, apples with worms integrated"
19:17 Fixer          yes
19:17 Fixer          pain is now more wonderful
19:19 Fixer          and now with all those powerful hardware that needs rare replacement, will see how manufacturers will screw the buyers
19:19 afflatus       It's affecting pidgin and vlc, so it has to be an audio problem
19:20 Fixer          afflatus, quote?
19:23 Fixer          "Avast: a Chromium fork with critical security checks removed (code.google.com)"
19:23 est31          like that entry
19:24 Fixer          it feels like amount of bullshit increases over time, like entropy
19:26 diemartin      I've been trying Pale Moon under Linux. So far so good. It's basically Firefox sans crap
19:27 Fixer          Firefox future is not clear
19:28 est31          even mozilla is actively trying to deprecate firefox
19:28 est31          they plan to replace it with servo
19:28 est31          next generation browser engine
19:29 est31          parallel rendering, etc
19:29 est31          written in rust, so its super safe
19:29 Fixer          lol
19:29 Fixer          when i hear "super safe"
19:30 diemartin      ever heard "Make it foolproof, and someone will invent a better fool?"
19:31 Fixer          https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cac0mYXW0AAWTNI.jpg LOL
19:32 est31          hah
19:32 Fixer          i think I will publish some of my fps tests on forum
19:32 Fixer          so much pain with them
19:33 melzua         afflatus: I'm on debian testing and don't have any audio problems with vlc. I'm recompiling minetest just now...
19:34 Fixer          results of my tests: http://pastebin.com/raw/UJxmjkce
19:34 Fixer          ~40 2 min tests
19:35 afflatus       Fixed client - it was an audio glitch :)
19:35 Fixer          70 nodes fixed range, unlimited fps, automated walking and recording
19:35 red-001        https://code.google.com/p/google-security-research/issues/detail?id=679
19:35 diemartin      Fixer, what card?
19:36 Fixer          diemartin, AMD/ATI HD6870, it is not for comparison with other cards
19:36 afflatus       melzua: it was one of those upgrade wierdnesses
19:39 Fixer          red-001, Avastium??? Is this a trolling?
19:39 Fixer          this is madness!
19:39 afflatus       I've just done that :)
19:39 afflatus       looking at this I'm tempted to recompile the server with these settings
19:41 Fixer          red-001, first was Trend Micro debucle, then Comodo Browser debucle, now Avastium debucle
19:41 Fixer          smth is wrong here %)
19:41 Fixer          shitty future
19:41 Fixer          i don't want that
19:43 Fixer          now security software is acting like malware, strange
19:43 Fixer          ._.
19:44 est31          why you say "now", Fixer ?
19:45 est31          didn't it do it all the time already?
19:45 afflatus       So back to sorting out the grailtest server, which has incidentally just crashed again - and I mean the machine, not just the game. Suspecting hardware problems.
19:46 Fixer          est31, few years it was not silently replacing my browser o_0
19:46 Fixer          in windows, you can expect everything
19:46 Fixer          everybody went nuts
19:46 est31          Fixer, for a few years browsers allowed add-ons to mess with them
19:47 est31          then malware abused this
19:47 est31          and adware
19:47 est31          then browsers became more restricted
19:47 Fixer          est31, just recently
19:47 est31          now you have to replace the binary
19:48 red-001        avasr doesn't replace the binary afaik
19:48 red-001        avast*
19:48 Fixer          est31, not long ago, updated avast antivirus on a notebook *sigh*, silently installed some shopping addon that is adware, removed that shit and installed 3 yr older version, f-k them
19:48 red-001        they just forked chrome and renamed it
19:49 Fixer          red-001, and introduced "security"
19:49 Fixer          with "we will collect your data" in EULA
19:49 Fixer          trololo
19:56 Calinou        I don't use an antivirus when I use Windows
19:57 afflatus       Actually I think the grail test server may actually be dead :(
19:58 Fixer          red-001, you made my day (avastium my ass)
19:58 afflatus       Which is almost certainly memory failure
20:08 melzua         afflatus: :(
20:10 afflatus       So now I start looking for a new machine. I could resuscitate it, but if it s memory failure it's probably not worth it.
20:11 melzua         afflatus: take a look at arubacloud.com. They offer a small VPS for 1€/month (really)
20:12 melzua         it's what I use for pixture server and it's ok (and very cheap :) )
20:12 afflatus       At that price I guess t's worth looking at :-)
20:13 melzua         but of course it's a small machine, so no 100 players server :P
20:14 * afflatus     looks
20:15 afflatus       How many players can you support on 1gB
20:16 melzua         idk, I've got 7 players once upon a time and do it's job very well
20:16 melzua         :D
20:22 Krock          afflatus, 1 GB what? webspace?
20:22 melzua         Krock: RAM
20:24 Krock          melzua, >20 people I'd say
20:24 Krock          and that with lots of loaded chunks
20:46 Calinou        1 GB of RAM is enough for 16 players
20:46 Calinou        probably not more
20:47 Calinou        think of the CPU as well
20:51 afflatus       That would be enough
20:53 afflatus       OK, recovered server :)
20:54 afflatus       We'll see how long it lasts
20:54 afflatus       Long enough to make a backup hopefully ...
21:02 red-001        you could always  connect the hard drive to a different computer
21:02 afflatus       Sure
21:03 afflatus       Although that way I don't know if I'm backing up a corrupted world or not
21:03 afflatus       If I can shut this one down cleanly, then I know it's clean
22:17 MinetestBot    02[git] 04RealBadAngel -> 03minetest/minetest: Use inventory_image in the first place for inventory item mesh 1338e7122 https://git.io/vg0Ep (152016-02-08T23:13:19+01:00)
23:40 H-H-H          hey guys is there a tutorial somewhere for howto register a new machine with technics mod