Time  Nick         Message
09:41 JamesTait    Good morning all; happy Thursday, and happy Wright Brothers Day! ✈
09:42 VanessaE     oh Abe will love today then :)
09:42 VanessaE     (husband.  big fan of the Brothers and of aviation in general)
10:03 JamesTait    VanessaE, my youngest son, too. Crazy about planes.
10:37 Ingar        JamesTait: Beethoven's 245th Year
13:16 everamzah    any idea what "Map::getNodeMetadata(): Block not found" is or why it's flooding the terminal where i launched minetest client from?
13:16 everamzah    http://i.imgur.com/sHs6XQ3.jpg
13:58 everamzah    removing my client's cache directory seemed to have fixed this
14:14 everamzah    actually it didn't fix this. :)
14:32 blaise       moin
14:53 STHGOM       I'm trying to set a server to public. the "server_announce = 1", and it says announcing to servers.minetest.net (paraphrase), but it does not show on the server list. what could be the problem?
14:54 blaise       the port is open to the public?
14:54 blaise       can you connect from the intertubes?
14:59 STHGOM       yes, i can connect
14:59 STHGOM       but some cannot, ive been told
15:00 blaise       then that's probably why
15:00 blaise       !up
15:00 MinetestBot  blaise: give me an address (and port if you want)
15:01 blaise       STHGOM: ask the bot if it's available..
15:01 STHGOM       !up myteke.us 39000
15:01 MinetestBot  myteke.us:39000 is up (89ms)
15:05 blaise       interesting
15:05 STHGOM       are you not able to connect?
15:05 blaise       so, I guess there's something missing in the conf which is causeing the public list to not like it
15:05 blaise       I'm not currently able to run mintest atm
15:06 blaise       unless they are supporting fbcon/svga
15:06 blaise       =]
15:06 blaise       I'm in the midst of reinstalling my operating system
15:06 STHGOM       hmm, would you like to see the conf?
15:08 blaise       eh, I'm not sure how much help I would be in that area as I don't have access to the machine that used to run my dedicated minetest server
15:08 STHGOM       ok
15:10 STHGOM       so, is there any way to tell what the public dosnt like?
15:12 STHGOM       public list*
15:13 STHGOM       also, the guy whos letting me use a server cluster chnaged the bind_address, server_address and server_url
15:14 STHGOM       and now it says it fails to annouce now
15:14 STHGOM       but, it still says it annouces, when i revert it
15:15 STHGOM       i guess i dont really know what he did, so its not really something worth bringing up
15:15 blaise       sounds like his changes haven't propogated to all the dns servers in the route
15:17 blaise       probably some old cached entries, possibly stale cache of ptr listings in zone
15:19 blaise       it'll probably clear itself up in some hours
15:20 STHGOM       hum, it has been this way for a few weeks
15:21 blaise       interesting
15:22 blaise       give me a sec
15:23 blaise       I don't have bind-tools on this machine yet.. merging them now
15:29 blaise       STHGOM: does this look right to you? myteke.us.              600     IN      A       192.99.244.109
15:29 STHGOM       ?
15:29 STHGOM       not really
15:30 STHGOM       wth is it? :P
15:30 blaise       that's the A record that is currently avaialble via root DNS for myteke.us
15:30 blaise       there is no reverse DNS that I can see..
15:31 blaise       so if 192.99.244.109 is not the right ip, then I suppose that would be your issue
15:37 blaise       STHGOM: so, are you Christopher?
15:38 STHGOM       nope
15:38 STHGOM       thast my buddy that lets me use it
15:38 blaise       ah
15:39 blaise       I use afraid.org ...
15:39 blaise       so I can make changes myself on the fly
15:39 blaise       lmao
15:39 blaise       and it's free
15:41 STHGOM       there is a web desk thingy set up that i can use
15:41 STHGOM       and i can ssh
16:43 STHGOM       what is the group needed to remove something from creative inventory? in_creative_inv = 0 >?
16:43 Calinou      not_in_creative_inventory = 1
16:43 STHGOM       thanks
16:51 Fixer        ._.
16:52 Fixer        !up survival city
16:52 MinetestBot  Fixer: invalid address
16:52 Fixer        ._______.
16:52 Fixer        !up 23.28.76.50
16:52 MinetestBot  23.28.76.50:30000 is up (143ms)
18:33 Krock        [off] Books are cool! (Not speaking of a novel) http://artofelectronics.com/
18:34 Krock        [off] Gives me much new stuff to read and learn \o/
19:01 Leoneof      hello
19:02 Leoneof      Why I'm here?
19:03 Elench       Because you are intersted in voxel based construction games?
19:03 Krock        Leoneof, because you must waste your time somehow
19:03 Elench       Or that, sure
19:04 Elench       Any good PvP, survival, mesecons servers?
19:04 Leoneof      u_u
19:04 mdjumethun   anybody can help me
19:05 Krock        nope because we don't know your problem
19:05 Elench       Well, possibly but it depends on the question
19:06 mdjumethun   krock please help me
19:06 VanessaE     mdjumethun: tell us what help you need.
19:07 Krock        He needs help finding out what's wrong :P
19:08 mdjumethun   how i lock my house in a server from other user
19:09 Elench       Protection blocks if they exist and steel doors
19:10 Calinou      build your house only using steel doors, locked chests and locked furnaces
19:10 Calinou      :)
19:10 VanessaE     heh
19:10 Calinou      (some people actually do that in Minecraft)
19:10 mdjumethun   i see all building and other element protect see mr x owned
19:10 Elench       Double thickness too
19:10 VanessaE     mdjumethun: look up the "Areas" mod
19:11 Elench       To stop lag hax
19:11 VanessaE     and learn its commands
19:11 mdjumethun   yes
19:12 mdjumethun   all user only show but not destroy my furniture how it possible
19:12 VanessaE     again,
19:12 VanessaE     mdjumethun: look up the "Areas" mod and learn to use it.
19:14 mdjumethun   now i build some furniture in a server but how it protected
19:15 LazyJ        "Advanced area protection" aka "Areas":    https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=7239
19:15 Krock        !mod areas
19:15 MinetestBot  Krock: Advanced area protection [areas] by ShadowNinja - https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=7239
19:15 Krock        LazyJ, MTB does your job
19:16 LazyJ        Thanks, Krock. ;)
19:16 Krock        np
19:17 LazyJ        And actually, the top post in Areas doesn't explain how to use it at all. :/
19:17 Jordach      i ain't feelin well but my mind is currently mad, great start to christmas ayy lmao
19:18 LazyJ        Ok, so try this link. Scroll down about half way and read the "README.md" for instructions on the commands to set protection on your stuff, mdjumethun:  https://github.com/ShadowNinja/areas
19:36 Fixer        hi LazyJ, any lack with lag? I've joined to look for few minutes, and it was near <1, which is good
19:37 Fixer        hey, iron trapdoor is activable by everyone?
19:38 LazyJ        Fixer, not much luck yet. Still getting spikes that go up like a rocket but come down like a feather.
19:38 Fixer        well, it should go like that, that's the way it calculates it
19:39 Fixer        try mod profiling and post results I always wondered if it can help find this problem
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19:46 swift110     hey all
20:01 mdjumethun   hello krock
20:03 mdjumethun   how i lock my building block and furniture because other player not use it
20:03 mdjumethun   please say easy way
20:04 behalebabo   mdjumethun: Does the server you play on have protection blocks?
20:04 mdjumethun   yea i play in a server
20:04 behalebabo   Do you have a craft guide?
20:05 behalebabo   And also, what is the server's name?
20:08 mdjumethun   just test
20:09 mdjumethun   ?
20:10 behalebabo   In that case you can protect your buildings by placing protection blocks, crafted by putting 8 stone around a mese crystal.
20:10 behalebabo   Cook cobblestone to make stone
20:11 est31        and you have to craft city block later on, to protect your house from tnt griefers
20:11 est31        bc afaik tnt still applies on protection blocks
20:11 mdjumethun   i want to...........other player see this is protected by mdjumethun or owner mdjumEthun
20:14 mdjumethun   ?
20:15 mdjumethun   hello
20:17 swift110     how are you mdjumethun
20:18 rom1504      he's learning english
20:21 swift110     oh ok
21:45 Fixer        tricky question
21:46 blaise       strange and obscure answer
21:47 Fixer        I have 2 chests on top of each other, i want to place steel door adjacent to them, how?
21:48 blaise       point at different blocks, do it from the other side or different angle and use the screwdriver to turn it around
21:52 Fixer        screwdriver is not helping
21:52 twoelk       hold shift?
21:55 Fixer        will activate chest
21:55 Fixer        but anyway
21:56 Fixer        with hard trying i've managed to rotate it with screwdriver
21:56 Fixer        in some nonobvious way
21:58 blaise       try the sonic screwdriver, not the regular one
21:58 blaise       seriously
22:00 RealBadAngel somebody fixed the screwdriver, it was easier to use before
22:00 RealBadAngel ;)
22:00 RealBadAngel sonic is working the original way
22:01 RealBadAngel but thats just my opinion
22:01 blaise       =D
22:02 blaise       how does one increase the difficulty?
22:02 blaise       odd statement in a voxel world
22:02 RealBadAngel drop on death for example
22:03 RealBadAngel and start to watch where you are going
22:03 Fixer        doors are tricky with screwdrivers
22:03 RealBadAngel doors shall be fixed
22:04 RealBadAngel screwdriver is generic tool
22:04 blaise       they can turn any block, yes?
22:05 RealBadAngel param2 one, yes
22:06 RealBadAngel if the node dont want to be rotated it should register in a group "i_hate_screwdriver=1" or something like that
22:06 RealBadAngel so it will obey
22:07 RealBadAngel atm everybody can complain, nobody can code such simple stuff
22:07 blaise       lmao
22:15 VanessaE     so..who is it that maintains worldedit now?
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22:39 LazyJ        Hmm... while this string of Minetest updates is happening, maybe I should post an Issue about the cache being written in odd places.
22:50 blaise       lmao
22:50 blaise       what minetest update?
22:54 LazyJ        December 15th's, 9eee3c3.
22:55 LazyJ        The cache is written to whatever directory is above the directory that minetest was started from.
22:55 LazyJ        In my case, I use a script so I can start MT from any place in the terminal.
22:55 LazyJ        It has worked for the past couple years until this or and earlier dev release.
22:56 LazyJ        "cache" started appearing in strange places.
22:59 Fixer        RealBadAngel, screwdriver is ok, trick is that door consists of two blocks, and two rotate it 180deg, you need to rotate bottom part, then activate upper one, or smth like that
22:59 RealBadAngel fixer, then maye node should have "on_screwdriver"
23:00 RealBadAngel so it will be able to handle it on its own
23:00 RealBadAngel btw, why not makin a door mesh?
23:01 RealBadAngel nodeboxes are just simulated since quite a while
23:01 RealBadAngel ingame there are meshes
23:28 Fixer        RealBadAngel, it is not important right now imho, look other instead: http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest-dev/2015-12-16#i_4476113, http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest-dev/2015-12-16#i_4476116
23:30 RealBadAngel Fixer, mesh genereation is done is separate thread already
23:30 RealBadAngel out of main loop
23:30 Fixer        RealBadAngel, it is not that
23:30 RealBadAngel ofc it is
23:31 Fixer        RealBadAngel, queue should be emptied once every rendered frame
23:31 Fixer        RealBadAngel, one mesh per rendering frame
23:31 RealBadAngel we dont do it like that
23:31 Fixer        RealBadAngel, that is causing stutter imho
23:31 RealBadAngel theres one mesh per each mapblock
23:31 RealBadAngel 16x16x16 nodes
23:32 XeonSquared  man cubic chunks is awesome
23:32 blaise       I don't get any noticable stutter
23:32 RealBadAngel also, rendering time depends on other things
23:32 RealBadAngel how many polygons are there
23:33 RealBadAngel or how much often SERVER requires client to regen mesh
23:34 Fixer        RealBadAngel, does not matter, you don't need to process that much in each rendering frame, make it slower and smoother instead, now it creates huge spikes from 15ms->60ms because it generated 30 meshes in limited time imho
23:35 Fixer        say, slow down it so it renders with 16ms rendering frame + 1 ms of mesh gen
23:35 Fixer        smth like that
23:37 Fixer        RealBadAngel, i've tried super simple flatgen mod without anything, soil only, mesh gen slow downs it 2x-3x (or at least it seems that it is the cause)
23:37 Fixer        by looking at F5 graphs
23:38 Fixer        but maybe i'm wrong
23:42 Fixer        blaise, to see stutters you can try singleplayer, or limiting your view to get good fps (at least 60 for example)
23:44 blaise       hrmm
23:46 Fixer        blaise, turn on graphs with F5 and look at mainloop_draw
23:46 Fixer        blaise, then walk and pay attention to it
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23:47 rubenwardy   Yay C!
23:51 blaise       :)
23:51 blaise       Fixer: I'm working with an ati radeon rs690m
23:51 blaise       aka radeon x1200
23:52 Fixer        blaise, aha, it is low end, it is slow as it is :}
23:54 blaise       yes, it doesn't need help
23:54 blaise       lmao