Time Nick Message 00:21 rubenwardy does colorise not actually work? default_chest_top.png^[colorise:#ff0000:0 does nothing 00:22 LazyJ Colorise also "burns" normalmaps. 00:23 LazyJ The colorised nodes appear blackened except for the center-most node in player's field of view. 00:36 Fixer we need more anticheats 00:36 Fixer another ***k is flying on just test and griefing from time to time 00:39 rubenwardy I'd pay for an anti-cheat which stops flying, and would be suitable for CTF 00:39 rubenwardy maybe £10-15 00:40 rubenwardy meh 00:40 rubenwardy Nevermind, it would be too hard to verify for me 00:42 MinetestBot 02[git] 04paramat -> 03minetest/minetest: Dungeongen: Fix rarely triggered segfault 1357b4295 http://git.io/vBF8Q (152015-12-01T00:36:38Z) 00:42 MinetestBot 02[git] 04jayarndt -> 03minetest/minetest: Remove unused OpenALSoundManager::m_can_vorbis and EXT_vorbis check 136fead28 http://git.io/vBF87 (152015-12-01T00:36:11Z) 00:49 rubenwardy What's the minimum number of nodes I can edit before it's better to use LVM? 00:49 rubenwardy I want to check a 3x4x4 area for trees, place a 4x4x1 layer of nodes, and place a single node. All in a volume of 4x4x4. 00:53 Fixer what is lvm? 00:53 rubenwardy Lua Voxel Manipulator 00:53 rubenwardy it's a fast way of reading and setting nodes in Lua 00:54 rubenwardy it's way faster than minetest.set_node at big areas 00:54 Fixer oh ok 00:55 rubenwardy can you see my mistake? minetest.set_node(pos, {node="air"}) 01:14 Fixer no I can't 01:15 Fixer i've read very little on programming right now 01:17 rubenwardy it's "node", should be "name" 02:16 rubenwardy looking for moderators: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?p=200330#p200330 08:13 sofar boom 08:13 sofar https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=13677 08:13 * sofar goes to bed, will read discussion later 09:55 caustic good morning 10:17 JamesTait Good morning all! Happy Giving Tuesday, and happy Bifocals at the Monitor Liberation Day! 😃 10:19 caustic back at 'cha 11:51 Fixer https://cloud.githubusercontent.com/assets/12679496/11492216/d07bfd52-979e-11e5-9593-9d801abbc98f.png 11:51 Fixer o.O 12:05 sfan5 ಠ_ಠ14:58 rubenwardy Client versions connecting to my server, 247 sample size: http://pasteboard.co/2y89t18t.png 14:59 rubenwardy Invalid ver is forks and illegal clients with weird version number 15:08 rubenwardy these are the platforms connecting to my server: http://pasteboard.co/2y8MHcXc.png 15:09 rubenwardy oops 15:09 rubenwardy Forget to include "arm" in mobile devices 15:14 rubenwardy corrected: http://pasteboard.co/2y9caEZx.png 15:14 rubenwardy That's depressing 15:15 est31 oh 15:15 est31 yea 15:16 rubenwardy 29 illegal apple clients. 35 Windows clients 15:16 est31 well, at least we got a 100% boost in users thanks to all the unofficial packages on the app stores 15:19 rubenwardy yeah 15:23 rubenwardy separated apple into iOS and OSX: https://twitter.com/rubenwardy/status/671711060093743104 16:31 Fixer hmm 16:35 VanessaE rubenwardy: that IS depressing :-/ 16:46 CWz VanessaE, you said it 16:46 CWz How did rubenwardy get that info though 16:47 VanessaE I would assume scraping the debug logs in the most verbose mode, and web access logs (for media server)? 16:50 Teckla VanessaE: What's depressing? The # of "illegal" and Windows clients? 16:51 VanessaE to me yeah 16:51 VanessaE not sure which part ruben considers depressing 16:52 CWz Probbaly that most of the players are tableteers who the vast majority of them are crybabies who really make server harder to enjoy 16:53 Ingar like in any other game 16:53 Ingar (- the tableteers) 16:53 VanessaE I wouldn't say the majority are 16:53 VanessaE rather there is a loud contingent of crybabies among them 16:54 CWz Vast Majority of them I find annoying. as they lay parkours all over the world 16:55 sofar allow mods to ban certain clients? 16:55 sofar that gives server ops the opportunity to cater to certain player types 16:56 Ingar stop playing on public servers 16:56 VanessaE sofar: there is an unreasonable resistance to exposing client ID + version to mods :-/ 16:56 sofar VanessaE: and that's why this mess exists 16:57 sofar tbh I get that 16:57 sofar you can't make reasonable decisions without data 16:57 sofar so withholding the data is a way to avoid it 16:59 sofar creating a player environment that builds communities is hard. You may have to make sacrifices. All MMO's do this. 17:00 Teckla I think a lot of kids use tablets, either because they don't have a PC, or installing Minetest on the PC is too hard for them. 17:00 sofar afk, meeting 17:03 Fixer apple is just anal (no need to worry), what is actually depressing is it is mostly android with something in reminder, so android support is important 17:09 Krock Hello everybody 17:10 VanessaE hi 17:18 Fixer hi 17:25 VanessaE bbl 17:43 Luizrpgluiz hi :) 18:12 Calinou Warsow 2.0 released, with most assets under CC BY-SA 4.0 18:32 hoodedice dot 18:33 hoodedice I'll beat Calinou to the hi. Hi Calinou 18:38 Calinou hi 18:38 Krock Beaten, it seems. 18:41 iheartkode hello! 18:42 iheartkode Just discovered minetest 18:42 hoodedice how's it? 18:42 iheartkode What mods do i need to join a server? This is pretty confusing 18:42 Krock congratulations 18:42 iheartkode I have not played lol 18:42 Calinou iheartkode, short answer: none. 18:42 Krock Tab: "Client" 18:42 Calinou mod content is downloaded when you join a server 18:42 iheartkode none ok easier 18:43 Krock Checkbox: "View public server list" 18:43 Calinou so you don't need to install mods on your client to play multiplayer games 18:43 Calinou (mods installed on your client affect only singleplayer games, or servers you host yourself) 18:43 iheartkode I click that view public server list and it crashes 18:43 est31 oh, that's bad to hear 18:43 iheartkode Thanks for the info 18:43 iheartkode It's a lua error maybe I should re install 18:43 iheartkode I installed it via apt-get 18:44 est31 iheartkode, which minetest version, which OS? 18:44 iheartkode Xubuntu 14.04 18:44 Calinou iheartkode, build from source 18:44 iheartkode which ever version is in the repo apt-get install minetest 18:44 est31 via the ppa, or the xubuntu repos? 18:44 iheartkode yep 18:44 Calinou it's outdated :) 18:44 iheartkode oh man lol 18:44 behalebabo The daily build PPA seems to work well 18:44 est31 either way it should work 18:44 Krock lol "X or Y?" "yep" 18:44 iheartkode removing it now lol 18:45 Calinou try https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=3837 18:45 est31 Calinou, iheartkode wont be the only one from 14.04 18:45 iheartkode it worked accept when you click servers 18:45 est31 its bad to have buggy version of minetest in official repos 18:45 est31 better get behind that bug 18:45 iheartkode thanks 18:45 Calinou you just have to paste the whole command in a terminal, and confirm with the sudo password 18:45 Calinou (use non-portable if you don't know which one to use) 18:45 iheartkode brb i will try it out 18:46 est31 trusty has 0.4.9+repack-4ubuntu1 18:46 est31 quite old ... 18:46 iheartkode i won't use portable 18:47 iheartkode installing from that script :) 18:47 iheartkode I have played MC for years, but it gets super boring. 18:48 Calinou I am a Minecraft convert too. 18:48 Calinou I started playing Minecraft ~5 years ago 18:48 Calinou but I stopped 1.5 years ago 18:48 iheartkode Same 18:48 iheartkode I stopped about 3 months back 18:48 Calinou I thought it was the game of the decade (really) 18:48 iheartkode lol 18:48 iheartkode for kids 18:48 Calinou but in the end, it looks like its sales are dropping already 18:48 Krock I think they thought the same with super mario 18:49 iheartkode right 18:50 iheartkode installed via script now I run minetest in terminal and says no command found 18:50 iheartkode cmake error 18:50 Obani I started playing Minecraft 4 years ago 18:51 iheartkode CMake Error: The source directory "/home/mark" does not appear to contain CMakeLists.txt.CMake Error: The source directory "/home/mark" does not appear to contain CMakeLists.txt. 18:51 Obani I stopped playing Minecraft 4 years ago 18:51 iheartkode maybe i should just play on windows lol 18:51 est31 you can try the ppa 18:51 behalebabo This ppa contains daily builds of the latest Minetest: https://launchpad.net/~minetestdevs/+archive/ubuntu/daily-builds 18:51 Teckla Minecraft is a great game 18:51 iheartkode i did it's outdated 18:52 iheartkode ok 18:52 est31 don't install mientestc55 18:52 est31 but minetest 18:52 est31 this is the stable repo if you dont want the bleeding edge: https://launchpad.net/~minetestdevs/+archive/ubuntu/stable 18:53 iheartkode i just want to play lol 18:53 iheartkode i will try this deb 18:55 iheartkode ok connecting to a server wish me luick :P 18:56 iheartkode just for future reference the sudo apt-get install minitest does not work (fails to list servers) 18:58 * Teckla has never had installation or runtime problems with Minetest for Windows 19:52 jemadux how to press a button on mt ? 19:55 Calinou jemadux, it can be left or right-click 19:55 Calinou depends on mods… there is no standard 19:56 jemadux in megaf server 19:56 jemadux sorry 19:57 jemadux bluelobster server 20:21 Glorfindel hey all 20:22 Glorfindel I am thinking about hosting a server over a vps, and was wondering there was a way to create a world via cli on the vps or if I would have to create one and upload it first 20:23 Glorfindel it's a linux virtual machine, if that changes anything 20:28 Calinou Glorfindel, starting a new server will automatically create a world called "world" 20:29 Glorfindel oh it does? Is this a recent thing, because I don't remember it doing that... 20:29 Calinou it always did that, even in 0.3.x 20:30 Calinou Minecraft also did it ;) 20:30 Glorfindel ah 20:31 Glorfindel heh, now that you mention it, there is a world called "world" lol 20:31 Glorfindel ty :) 20:35 Calinou https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=13680&p=200407#p200400 20:35 Calinou idspispopd 20:35 sofar Calinou: time to change your password? 20:36 Glorfindel lol 20:53 Glorfindel next question, how low could I go with system specs? Assuming 4-5 players max, would 512mb ram be enough? 20:54 est31 depends on mods I guess 20:54 est31 but they should be for a lightly modded instance 20:55 Obani Glorfindel, is it for a private server ? 20:55 Glorfindel est31: ok, ty 20:55 Glorfindel Obani: I'll probably make it public, but not on with those specs 20:55 Obani ok 20:57 Calinou Glorfindel, my VPS runs on 1 GB RAM 20:57 Calinou (Hunger Games server) 20:57 Calinou it can handle 15-20 players fine 20:57 Calinou (runs on Debian 8 64-bit) 20:57 asl97 Glorfindel: you might want to add a swap just in case if it doesn't have one yet 20:58 Obani Calinou, Hungry games doesn't have many mods ;) 20:58 Glorfindel Calinou: ok, that should be fine then 20:58 Calinou I use dedicated_server_step = 0.05 20:58 Calinou for smoother player/mob movement (as shown to other players) 20:58 Calinou it costs more CPU and bandwidth 20:59 Glorfindel Obani: the only mods I'd add is mobs redo and TenPlus1's mod for the different biomes (forget the name) 20:59 Glorfindel Calinou: I saw a post you made on the forum about that, is it really that much smoother? 21:07 thePalindrome I wouldn't use systemd on a server 21:08 Glorfindel thePalindrome: shouldn't your username be thePalindromeemordnilaPeht ? 21:08 thePalindrome heheh 21:08 Glorfindel what's wrong with systemd? 21:10 Calinou systemd is love, systemd is life 21:10 thePalindrome It chews up ram like none other, fails catastrophicly (couldn't reboot because systemd biffed it because of a d-bus issues) 21:10 thePalindrome Also, you have to have all systemd or none 21:11 thePalindrome Anyway, brb 21:11 Glorfindel lol 21:11 Glorfindel I'll pop the popcorn ;) 21:13 rubenwardy Calinou, are you on my ctf server? 21:13 Calinou yes 21:13 Calinou :p 21:14 Calinou how do you get guns and steel swords? 21:14 Calinou maybe players should have a weak gun on spawn 21:14 Calinou what about armor? 21:14 Glorfindel wow a server with gunz :D 21:15 asl97 Calinou: iirc, no armor, guns and swords from chest 21:17 Calinou rubenwardy, I love how you used the trumpet sound that all games use 21:17 Calinou including OpenClonk and some brony fangame called Pony Joust 21:21 Calinou you should add wieldview too 21:43 sofar thePalindrome: blame me, I've committed code to systemd 22:03 rubenwardy Calinou, yeah, I'm planning on armour 22:03 rubenwardy and yeah, that sound is used by KAG too 22:03 rubenwardy which is my inspiration 22:03 rubenwardy but I found the sound on some libre website 22:09 rubenwardy lol, Calinou got hated 22:42 rubenwardy is "sexygirl" a good enough nick? 22:42 alket yep 22:42 rubenwardy hmmm 22:43 alket sexy isn't offensive word 22:43 alket its acceptable 22:44 VanessaE alket: that depends on your audience. 22:44 kaeza ultimately depends on you. ^that 22:44 VanessaE it would be entirely unacceptable if used among a bunch of 10 year olds :P 22:44 alket VanessaE: they use it in TV during day time xD 22:45 rubenwardy most of my audience are 8-12 y.o on android phones 22:45 alket rubenwardy: whats your server ? 22:45 rubenwardy !server Capture the Flag 22:45 MinetestBot rubenwardy: Capture the Flag (Guns!) | minetest.rubenwardy.com | Clients: 14/20, 14/19 | Version: 0.4.13-dev / capturetheflag | Ping: 1ms 22:45 rubenwardy also, VanessaE: https://twitter.com/rubenwardy/status/671711060093743104 22:46 VanessaE I saw 22:46 VanessaE [12-01 11:35] rubenwardy: that IS depressing :-/ 22:46 rubenwardy oh 22:46 VanessaE stop signing off all the time :) 22:47 rubenwardy I may have left to do an essay at that point 22:47 VanessaE just do what I do, leave your PC on :P 22:47 rubenwardy I close IRC whilst I'm doing my essay 22:47 VanessaE yeah sure. excuses, excuses :D 22:47 rubenwardy I also hide my bookmarks bar to stop myself seeing "Minetest Forums" 22:48 VanessaE heh 22:49 rubenwardy does anyone know how I can configure a mapgen to make a map from -160 to 160 as a valley? 22:49 rubenwardy or should I just guess seeds randomly 22:49 rubenwardy also, are there any stats on the speed of v6 vs v7 22:49 VanessaE no clue on settings, but it's generally agreed that v6 is faster 22:50 VanessaE (v7 is more than fast enough though) 22:50 rubenwardy how much so? 22:50 VanessaE I'm not sure - I've not measured it 22:50 rubenwardy ok. My server uses sqlite_synchronous = 0, which is why it's so fast 22:50 VanessaE but it's noticable 22:50 rubenwardy I don't care if the map is corrupted, as it's reset so often 23:19 rubenwardy there's some weird new v6 biome with boney things 23:19 rubenwardy like, it crunches when you walk on them 23:20 VanessaE boney? 23:21 rubenwardy like bones 23:21 rubenwardy makes a crunching sound 23:21 rubenwardy oh, gravel 23:21 rubenwardy gravel has a new sound 23:25 thePalindrome yar har