Time Nick Message 01:18 sofar can anyone explain to me how farming_plus nodes are placed on the map? I don't see it anywhere using biome_lib or having a mapgen hook of some sorts.... 01:25 Da_Red_Hood How do I kick a user on minetest? 01:25 Da_Red_Hood I am a sysadmin 01:26 sofar type /help 01:27 Da_Red_Hood I have not made my user admin yet 01:27 Da_Red_Hood How do I do that? 01:27 sofar grant command 01:27 Da_Red_Hood How do I perform that from the console? 01:28 DI3HARD139 I usually add "all" in the list of privs in the auth.txt then do /auth_reload ingame 01:28 sofar minetest has no interactiv console 01:29 Da_Red_Hood auth.txt? 01:29 sofar http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/Privileges 01:32 DI3HARD139 its in the world folder. itll be layed out as ~/worlds/ auth.txt or just do /grant all using a profile that has the /grant priv 01:43 Da_Red_Hood How do I rename a file from the linux command line? 01:52 sofar mv 01:53 sofar http://lmgtfy.com/?q=How+do+I+rename+a+file+from+the+linux+command+line%3F 03:48 jacsepticeye Hello in back after a test or 2 03:49 jacsepticeye A year 06:06 drink1n hello guys 06:07 sofar can anyone explain to me how farming_plus nodes are placed on the map? I don't see it anywhere using biome_lib or having a mapgen hook of some sorts.... 06:07 drink1n i want to know how to register a minetest account. Some help?? 06:08 sofar what kind of account? 06:10 drink1n sofar: just a client account 06:10 sofar just put a username and password in when you first connect to a server 06:10 sofar first one used is registered 06:10 sofar each server has their own username and password registration 06:10 drink1n sofar: okay i see. thanks. do you know what the most popular minetest server is? 06:11 sofar see /topic 06:11 swift110-phone Hey guys 06:11 sofar http://minetest.net/servers 06:20 xrosnight i was connecting to the server stormchaser3000.noip.me:30001 and it was stuck at "Item definitions" ... what's wrong? 06:20 sofar it can take a while to download assets from a server 06:22 xrosnight sofar: okay... i would think so.. now it is temperarily stuck at "Media" in slowly progress 06:23 xrosnight temporarily* 06:45 Da_Red_Hood How can I ban a troll from my server? 06:49 sofar tried /ban ? 06:49 Da_Red_Hood I have to make myself admin first 06:54 Da_Red_Hood How do I make myself admin? 07:02 sofar use /grant, or modify the auth file and reload 07:03 Da_Red_Hood where is auth? 07:03 sofar http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/Privileges 07:03 sofar auth.txt is in world folder 07:06 Da_Red_Hood Do I just add my name? 07:06 Da_Red_Hood or do I have to do anything special? 07:06 Zeno` Hi all. Just here to say goodbye to the friends (and foes) I've formed while working as core dev on this project 07:07 Da_Red_Hood So you are leaving the project? 07:07 Zeno` I've removed myself as a dev. There is nothing wrong (I just don't have the interest atm), and I hope the project continues to improve! 07:07 Zeno` Da_Red_Hood, yes :`-( 07:07 Zeno` For the moment anyway. Maybe in 6 months or a year I'll come back. Who knows what the future holds 07:08 Zeno` I feel kind of sad. Sadder than I have felt when I left any of my real life jobs, lmao 07:09 * Zeno` waves 07:34 Da_Red_Hood How do I make myself admin? 07:34 Da_Red_Hood I am in auth.txt and I have no idea how 07:35 sofar change :shout,interact: to :all: 07:35 sofar for the user that is you 07:36 Da_Red_Hood Where do Input the user part? 07:37 Da_Red_Hood Da_Red_Hood::all: ? 07:37 Da_Red_Hood sofar is that how? 07:37 sofar I'm not holding hands 07:38 Da_Red_Hood aka I am a "hard core nerd" who won't tell you how to syntax 07:38 Da_Red_Hood gg fuckface 07:39 sofar Da_Red_Hood: why don't you try it, and come back if you can't figure it out? 07:42 Da_Red_Hood What the fuck is this? 07:42 Da_Red_Hood https://ghostbin.com/paste/rdjsf 07:43 TheWild have you another server already running? 07:44 Da_Red_Hood no 07:46 Da_Red_Hood Have you ever heard of a user named "Dummy"? 07:47 Da_Red_Hood He is this troll who some users said was "torchnukieng"(Destroying all torches near him with some cheats of some sort) 07:55 Da_Red_Hood sofar: I did that and now I can't do anything 07:57 sofar Da_Red_Hood: I usually add "all" in the list of privs in the auth.txt then do /auth_reload ingame 07:57 sofar that's what someone else told me... 07:57 Da_Red_Hood :all: made it so I couldn't even chat 07:58 sofar try :all,shout,interact,server: ? 07:58 sofar actually 07:58 sofar just do 07:58 sofar :privs: 07:58 sofar then you can in-game grant more privs 08:01 Da_Red_Hood I added everything but privs 08:01 Da_Red_Hood can I still edit privs? 08:02 sofar I'm not sure, I don't think "all" is actually a valid flag... not according to the wiki page link 08:02 sofar so if you want to edit privs in-game, add privs to the list 08:04 Da_Red_Hood I don 08:04 Da_Red_Hood I don't have ban permissions 08:05 sofar did you give yourself 'privs'? 08:05 sofar then just /grant all 08:05 sofar in-game 09:35 TheWild https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/3389 - oh well, thats such a big problem 09:35 TheWild ^ stop considering which one is good and introduce a setting 09:40 TheWild https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/3084 - solution: rename env_meta.txt to env_meta.old. Write new env_meta.txt and ensure that it was properly flushed. Remove env_meta.old. 09:41 TheWild If server crashed and env_meta.txt is not readable, you can probably read env_meta.old 09:50 realbadangel__ TheWild, about 3389, instead of commentin here, do it on github issue 10:23 JamesTait Good morning all; happy Thursday and happy Cake Day! 😃 http://goo.gl/oKyw2t 10:25 realbadangel__ no way, cake is a lie :P 10:26 JamesTait Piecaken isn't. 11:40 E4xoi hi JamesTait! 11:40 E4xoi long time no see! 11:47 JamesTait 👋 E4xoi 11:47 * JamesTait hasn't been hiding. 11:49 E4xoi well, I kinda was 11:49 E4xoi rarely looking at this channel :P 13:05 realbadangel__ E4xoi, better lookin at this chan than world news ;) 13:48 E4xoi realbadangel__: you mean all the problems that people in syria/irak have to suffer? 13:50 realbadangel__ i mean all the shit all around the globe 13:53 realbadangel__ mankind is just sick 14:16 who_wants_some it always been like that 14:17 thefamilygrog66 howdy folks 14:21 JohnnyComeL8ly [off] Have a blessed day of Thanksgiving and Prayer, Citizens of USA! http://americanminute.com/index.php?date=11-26&view=View 14:30 E4xoi who_wants_some: it's now different because europeans are those who die 14:30 E4xoi who_wants_some: who cares about people in asia or africa anyway, right? 15:13 zat guys what license to choose if I want to make a REAL free software? 15:15 rom1504 no it has been worse before 15:15 rom1504 now it's better 15:18 twoelk|2 zat: cc0 ? 15:19 twoelk|2 http://creativecommons.org/publicdomain/zero/1.0/ 15:20 zat You can copy, modify, distribute and perform the work, even for commercial purposes, all without asking permission. 15:20 zat doesn't sound that would keep the work completely free. 15:21 zat I was thinking something more like AGPL 15:27 twoelk|2 hmm forcing your work to be kept "for free" as in free beer is not completly free as in freedom 15:33 zat it is for people 15:33 zat that don't want proprietary black boxes 15:37 Yepoleb zat: There's no "real" free license. If you ask RMS, he will tell you that the GPL is the most free one, if you ask a BSD maintainer he will tell you BSD is the most free. 15:38 zat sure 15:38 zat I just don't want anybody to derive the code and close it. 15:38 zat I want to keep control over all derivatives. 15:38 Yepoleb then gpl is probably the way to go 15:39 zat but what GPL :S 15:44 Yepoleb zat: are you writing a library? 15:44 zat no, a full application 15:45 Yepoleb zat: desktop or server? 15:46 zat desktop 15:46 Yepoleb zat: then GPLv3 15:46 zat ! 15:46 zat hands down? 15:47 zat the core of the software can be used as a server over the net 15:47 zat and I want to avoid proprietary implementations as a service 15:51 Yepoleb zat: the main differences of the different gpl license are: lgpl allows you to integrate the software into a proprietary project, as long as you release the changes 15:51 Yepoleb the gpl forces you to release the full project source 15:53 Yepoleb and agpl requires people who use the application over a network to provide the source 15:54 anddam can damage be inhibited? 15:54 dzho it's important to note that just use of gpl or lgpl does not require release of source, it's only the redistribution of that code that requires it. You can, for instance, use the code internally and never be required to release source. 15:54 Yepoleb this is mostly relevant for web and server applications 15:55 dzho this is a big difference from the agpl. with gpl or lgpl code running a website, you have no obligation to share the code, because you aren't distributing software, just web content. 15:56 dzho with agpl code running a website thought, that code needs to be shared. 15:56 zat AGPL sounds like the way to go then. 15:56 anddam I'm wandering around with noclip and I get into lava, can health be locked? 15:56 est31 shared to anybody who has access to the service 15:56 zat my software is supposed to avoid secret messaging providers 15:56 dzho est31: yes, thank you. 15:57 est31 so if you build a space station isolated from human population, you dont have to provide the source to humans on earth 15:57 est31 (if your service is only for inhabitants of that station) 15:58 anddam est31: wouldn't you be forced to share the source with those inhabitants? 15:59 est31 yes, of course, and they would be allowed to share it whomever they want 15:59 est31 but as the space station is isolated they cant share it with people outside 16:02 zat I think that example is kind of a bit off 16:08 Calinou GPLv3+, not just GPLv3. 16:08 Calinou this is important if you 1) die, 2) stop maintaining the project 16:10 zat what's the relevant bit about 16:11 est31 Calinou, what if FSF gets invaded by BSD people and declare GPLv4 to be the BSD license? 16:20 Calinou won't happen 16:20 Calinou also, the upsides of "or later" greatly outperform the risks 16:20 Calinou also, if you aren't happy with this, just pick a permissive license… 16:21 Calinou in any case, it's impossible to turn the base code proprietary even if the FSF published an "evil" license 16:22 est31 what if GPLv4 contains "the license owner gives 200000 $ to the licensee"? 16:23 est31 or even better "the license owner gives 200000 $ to the FSF" 16:24 Calinou users can still use GPLv3 16:24 Calinou this is why upgrades aren't mandatory 16:25 est31 and what if the users dont have to pay money to the program writer, but the program writer has to pay money to the user? 16:25 est31 wont they prefer the later GPL version then? 16:32 Calinou they can't force people to upgrade 16:32 Calinou the program remains forever (until copyright expiry) under GPLv3 and later versions 16:32 Calinou people can also choose to not replicate the "or later" clause in their own software 17:01 Obani rubenwardy, I'm making some simple schems for the map 17:07 rubenwardy awesome 17:21 Obani rubenwardy, bedrock = -50 ? -30 ? -x ? 17:22 rubenwardy I think it should be at the same place as the barrier, so -90, but doesn't matter 17:22 Obani -90 ? 0.o 17:26 rubenwardy There seems to be a weird crash when using v7 and map_generation_limit 17:27 rubenwardy maybe it's due to the spawn location 17:28 Obani rubenwardy, yes, I didn't reported you but yes 17:28 Obani wait 17:28 rubenwardy It's my fault, I made map_generation_limit 17:29 Obani wait, where is it ?? 17:31 rubenwardy huh? 17:33 Obani can't find it in my minetest.conf ?.? 17:34 rubenwardy it's in games/capturetheflag/minetest.conf 17:35 Obani know it 17:35 Obani but still, I can't find it 17:36 rubenwardy what do you mean? 17:55 who_wants_some Zeno is leaving, looks like no OGRE or smth for Minetest, minetest development pace is too fast anyway 18:11 CWz where is Zeno 18:14 VanessaE_ he left. 18:14 VanessaE_ http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest-dev/2015-11-26#i_4459838 18:24 twoelk fiddling with WE, I just wrecked my castle and then crashed my server - just because I forgot to reset pos1 to my new position :-D - I just wonder why all of Sokomine's villages spawned underground on that map 18:27 VanessaE_ oops :) 18:32 thefamilygrog66 Hey, do formspecs handle drop downs now? 18:33 twoelk look at pa's new settings code? 18:35 thefamilygrog66 I'll take that silence as a "yes". 18:38 twoelk https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/builtin/mainmenu/tab_settings.lua line 406+ for example? 18:43 who_wants_some o_O 18:49 thefamilygrog66 I was looking for a yes/no answer, but thanks twoelk. 18:51 twoelk may have missunderstood 19:59 Ingar e 20:26 Da_Red_Hood https://ghostbin.com/paste/obyva how do I fix this? 20:29 est31 yeah this is an old bug 20:29 est31 just remove the EnvArgs file 20:29 est31 hmm how again is it called 20:30 est31 env_meta.txt in the world dir 20:30 est31 that file is likely empty, delete it 20:31 Obani rubenwardy, I made thos not very nice world edit schems, if you want to check it out https://up1.ca/#4bgn_IH5bxIz5kwRcybyHw 20:31 Obani PS : the chest_room would be IN a wall 20:31 Obani IN the base 20:32 Obani gtg 21:25 who_wants_some RealBadAngel, ever had problems with jumping on cactuses when technic is on? 21:28 RealBadAngel who_wants_some, not really 21:29 RealBadAngel that sounds pretty weird :P 21:29 who_wants_some i don't have 100% proof... but technic was disabled and cactuses are jumpable again 21:30 who_wants_some on ESM city 21:30 who_wants_some strange 21:30 RealBadAngel afaik technic doesnt do anything with cacti 21:30 Da_Red_Hood How do I make pipes in technic? 21:31 RealBadAngel pipes are from pipeworks 21:31 Da_Red_Hood whatever 21:31 Da_Red_Hood how do I use them? 21:32 RealBadAngel dont expect one sentece answer ;) 21:32 est who_wants_some, it might be that the admin has removed the no jump on cactus together with the technic mod 21:33 RealBadAngel Da_Red_Hood, pipes are meant to transport items from one machine to another 21:33 RealBadAngel some machines do eject items, some do accept input 21:34 RealBadAngel for example a furnace can accept input -> items to be cooked slot (process them) and then eject output on the other side to another pipe 21:34 who_wants_some funny, he reenabled technic and some other mods and cacti are nonjump 21:35 RealBadAngel who_wants_some, please upload somwhere all the mods installed, i will look for the reason 21:36 Da_Red_Hood I just mean crafting pipes 21:36 who_wants_some RealBadAngel, it is on multiplayer server, and it is not mine :( i will ask admin 21:36 RealBadAngel Da_Red_Hood, hold on 21:37 RealBadAngel hmm, most easy way? 21:37 RealBadAngel do you have UI installed? 21:37 Da_Red_Hood What UI? 21:37 RealBadAngel UnifiedInventory mod 21:37 Da_Red_Hood I don't think I do 21:37 Da_Red_Hood I should add that to my server 21:37 RealBadAngel you should 21:38 RealBadAngel https://github.com/minetest-technic/unified_inventory/archive/master.zip 21:38 RealBadAngel with it you get ingame crafting guide for every item 21:39 RealBadAngel and lotsa more 21:40 RealBadAngel using UI is pretty self explanatory, just give it a try 21:40 who_wants_some Sokomine, you here? 21:49 * who_wants_some pokes python 21:49 * who_wants_some is so damb 22:02 Da_Red_Hood I made my world then added technic 22:02 Da_Red_Hood Does brass and stuff like that still spawn? 22:15 Da_Red_Hood Can I make an automine in technic? 22:19 TheWild entities have no lighting/shading. Is this because of missing normals or it just doesn't work? 22:20 est31 RealBadAngel, ^ 22:26 rubenwardy on my capturethe flag server: 22:26 rubenwardy can our teams plz be at peace 22:26 rubenwardy Don't think he gets the point 22:37 who_wants_some good enough 22:42 TheWild in MC when you drive the boat, you can look left/right to slowly turn your boat to the respective direction. Do we want it in MT? 22:57 who_wants_some gimp is on gtk3 right now? just wondering 23:02 who_wants_some there are 4 people on server and their keep leaving and rejoining... wth... are they playing from Mars? 23:05 sofar not everyone has comghast 23:12 who_wants_some poor maike 23:12 who_wants_some running MT server is like a car from USSR 23:13 who_wants_some it just breaks everywhere 23:15 rubenwardy mine works, mostly 23:16 rubenwardy if it crashes then it's usually my fault 23:16 who_wants_some Wayland Protocols v1.0 Released 23:16 who_wants_some hmm 23:16 who_wants_some must be usable in near future (10-50 years) 23:19 est31 its protocols only 23:19 est31 and still no pointer locking 23:19 est31 there has been discussion on it in 2013 feb 23:19 est31 then in 2014 nov/oct 23:19 est31 then recently too 23:19 est31 (oct/nov 2015) 23:20 est31 but out of some reason pointer locking hasnt been merged 23:20 who_wants_some i was talking in general 23:20 who_wants_some how long they develop that thing? like 10 years? 23:20 est31 well, it makes writing frustrum controlled games inpossible 23:21 who_wants_some released just 3 years ago? smth is wrong 23:21 who_wants_some it feels like it is going on forever 23:21 est31 and there is no compat layer to windows 23:21 est31 nor to x11 23:21 est31 those require warping 23:22 est31 (more or less) 23:22 who_wants_some MT will not be usable soon on linux, right? 23:23 est31 well minecraft will be neither 23:23 est31 and they will change it, because MC 23:23 est31 not MT 23:23 est31 but yeah, in fact we perform better on wayland than MC 23:23 est31 MC crashes 23:24 est31 MT runs, but suffers under that frustrum spinning bug 23:24 est31 (MT runs with XWayland) 23:26 who_wants_some any positive news? %) 23:26 who_wants_some everything is broken! 23:26 who_wants_some or are* 23:34 est31 hrmm, reading through the pointer locking protocol, it seems it will be possible to implement warping 23:34 est31 so perhaps XWayland will finally get warping support 23:34 est31 nice 23:42 who_wants_some https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/2988 hmm 23:55 Sokomine who_wants_some_: yes. how can i help you? 23:56 who_wants_some_ Sokomine, hi, on ESM city maike has villages enabled, in lots of playses without any villages it says I can't build because inhabitans whatever... That is strange 23:57 who_wants_some_ places* 23:57 Sokomine who_wants_some_: hmm. perhaps some parameters where changed? he did experiment a bit with it and had the protection even disabled for some time 23:58 who_wants_some_ could be 23:58 who_wants_some_ now I can't build in areas near me :( 23:58 who_wants_some_ not even on most of that mountain near spawn 23:59 who_wants_some_ is it possible to remove such places from databases? %) 23:59 Sokomine hmm. that can be deleted from the table, but it'd be manual work and might require a server restart 23:59 Sokomine i had a lot of lag on the server last time. else i'd ask you to show me