Time  Nick             Message
00:35 JohnnyComeL8ly   who_wants_some: *Houston - that's how you spell it.
01:10 kaeza            o/
01:18 kaeza            the new mtg header is horrible :I
02:16 est31            google knows that they aren't my startpage
02:16 est31            how do they know?!
02:16 est31            evil google
02:16 est31            you dont do the right thing
02:19 Emperor_Genshin  <est31> how do they know?! <--- Main reason why I've stopped using google lol
02:27 TacticalAcorn    Hello
02:29 Emperor_Genshin  Hi
02:30 kaeza            o/
02:37 TacticalAcorn    Hello
02:37 est31            hello again!
02:37 TacticalAcorn    Sorry just switched to a client instead of we chat
02:38 TacticalAcorn    *Webchat
02:38 TacticalAcorn    Do you guys know of any good Community servers?
02:40 TacticalAcorn    Because most of them are griefed
02:44 Wayward_One      I personally enjoy VE's servers, MTZ-Basic, and the BlueLobster trio, among others
02:44 est31            TacticalAcorn, you can protect your builds
02:45 est31            then they cant get griefed if your password is secure enough to not get guessed
02:45 Emperor_Genshin  there are also Areas mods
02:45 TacticalAcorn    What about just test?
02:45 LazyJ            +1 for Areas mod.
02:47 est31            just test is very anarchy like server
02:47 Emperor_Genshin  hmm, speaking of servers I need to test out my WIP server at the moment, brb X3
02:47 est31            protecting there is hard
02:47 LazyJ            Read Just Test's forum thread, take a tour of the server and then either keep it in your favorites list or not (I write down the connection info elsewhere because some servers take more time to get to know).\
02:47 est31            you need to be in range of two kinds of blocks
02:48 LazyJ            Keep notes on the MT servers you tour that interest you.
02:48 Emperor_Genshin  ^this
02:48 LazyJ            Some days you may be in the mood for battle, so log in to your favorite PvP server.
02:49 LazyJ            Other days you might want to tinker with contraptions, Technic and Mesecon servers would fit the bill.
02:49 est31            and protection blocks are expensive
02:49 est31            need mese block
02:49 TacticalAcorn    Hmm good point and I love mesecons
02:49 LazyJ            You are not stuck to one specific server.
02:49 LazyJ            There are a lot but only a few will suit your personal tastes.
02:50 est31            well thats what taste is about isnt it
02:50 LazyJ            Sort of like restaurants. There are a lot of them, but only a few really appeal to you and those are the ones you return to when you are hungry for that particular type of menu.
02:51 TacticalAcorn    Olive Garden
02:52 LazyJ            I'd start with Minetest.net's Server forums.
02:52 TacticalAcorn    I've been on there all the time
02:52 LazyJ            Look for the ones that have been around a while and read through their threads to get an initial impression.
02:52 LazyJ            Then make a list and tour them.
02:53 LazyJ            There are many servers that don't have a thread. Look through the web version of the main server list.
02:53 LazyJ            It has a bit more info when you mouse over some of the specs and if a server in the same country as you will have a better connection.
02:54 LazyJ            But in the end, touring is the best way to try the various servers.
02:54 LazyJ
02:55 TacticalAcorn    I just saw the Portabella village picture in the Linuxgaming thread nice build
02:56 LazyJ            Thanks. ;)
02:56 LazyJ            But that is in a secret area for now.
02:56 LazyJ            A long term project with much more work to be done.
02:57 TacticalAcorn    It looks like a great server
02:57 LazyJ            But some day it will be open to the public.
02:57 LazyJ            Expect lots of lag though.
02:57 LazyJ            We recently moved to another VPS and upgraded to MT 0.4.13-dev.
02:57 LazyJ            Something spiked the lag.
02:58 LazyJ            But if you have a stout enough PC and are patient, it can be a nice place to tour through.
02:58 LazyJ            VanessaE's servers offer a lot too.
02:59 LazyJ            The Creative and Survival servers are loaded with Dreambuilder.
02:59 LazyJ            You'll get the most mods that way.
02:59 TacticalAcorn    DreamBuilder?
02:59 LazyJ            Dreambuilder is VanessaE's sub-game. Basically everything including the kitchen-sink.
03:00 TacticalAcorn    Cool
03:00 LazyJ            She keeps the mods in Dreambuilder fairly up-to-date.
03:01 LazyJ            Technic, Mesecons, Pipeworks, HomeDecor, MoreTrees, PlantLife... the standards plus a lot of smaller, lesser known mods.
03:02 LazyJ            I don't recall if she includes mobs in Dreambuilder or not.
03:02 LazyJ            deezl and CWz's BlueLobster servers are well maintained too.
03:02 LazyJ            They don't have as many mods installed but still a good selection.
03:03 LazyJ            TT-Creative is creative-mode.
03:04 LazyJ            BlueLobster Pro is survival-mode and mostly tuned for building. The spawn signs even warn that the server is for people who already know how to play Minetest - for seasoned Minetest players.
03:04 TacticalAcorn    I like a good building server and a good survival server so these suggestions are great
03:04 LazyJ            BL-Free4All... I don't know much about that one.
03:05 LazyJ            MTZ-Basic used to be operated by Zeno` but has since been transferred to deezl.
03:05 LazyJ            MTZ-Basic is tuned for smartphones and tablets, iirc.
03:06 LazyJ            Not sure though; deezl may have changed things.
03:06 TacticalAcorn    Cool I have it on my tablet
03:06 LazyJ            King Arthur's Land is one of the legacy servers in the MT community.
03:06 LazyJ            You have to register on KAL's own forum to be granted interact but the automated system hasn't always worked in the past.
03:07 LazyJ            KAL has Technic installed but, as it's name would suggest, is very medieval themed.
03:08 LazyJ            H2O Watershed is relatively new and uses paramat's Watershed mapgen.
03:08 TacticalAcorn    I'm going to check out Kal
03:09 LazyJ            There is some modification to the default game but other than that, MoreBlocks is the only other "building" mod installed. The rest are more utility/server maintenance-like.
03:09 Wayward_One      BL-Free4All runs an older, modified version of carbone, and is more of a "hard core" server, with pvp and raids allowed, but still great for building
03:09 LazyJ            Wayward_One is one of BlueLobster's staff.
03:10 TacticalAcorn    Cool Hello
03:10 Wayward_One      Hi :)
03:10 LazyJ            Ok, now that I've talked-up other people's servers...
03:10 TacticalAcorn    Do you have one of your own?
03:10 LazyJ            LinuxGaming is a couple years old, doesn't have contraption mods, and the admin is a cranky old fart. :D
03:11 TacticalAcorn    I would love to have one of my own but I don't want to use all of my internet data
03:11 Wayward_One      But it's another of my favorites
03:11 LazyJ            Aye. A VPS isn't cheap.
03:11 Wayward_One      Also great for building
03:12 TacticalAcorn    I've been looking for a free vps for ages never found a legit one
03:12 LazyJ            Right now I'd like to grab the hosting service by the ears to get their attention.
03:12 LazyJ            I had to cough up $460 for a one year subscription.
03:12 LazyJ            Not much when you break it down monthly but I had to pay in one lump sum.
03:13 TacticalAcorn    Wow
03:13 LazyJ            Money is very tight in real life. Paying $460 for a "free" game is insane (but I've always been a little "off" anyway).
03:14 LazyJ            Well, there is a lot more to it than that.
03:15 TacticalAcorn    It's too bad there are no free hosting services out there
03:15 LazyJ            Everything costs. One way or another, everything costs.
03:15 TacticalAcorn    Yep
03:16 LazyJ            Even if you had your own hardware sitting in your room, you would still have to pay for the electricity and bandwidth. The bandwidth is where they getcha.
03:16 TacticalAcorn    That's why I don't host my own server
03:16 sofar            got a weird one. I'm playing with the mgv6_* spread values and after I increase X+Z values in the same way, my landscape is becoming heavily stretched in the Z axis
03:17 LazyJ            paramat and hmmmm are the mapgen gurus.
03:17 JohnnyComeL8ly   TacticalAcorn, you should try Linuxgaming... That's what I play on. ;-)
03:18 LazyJ            VE-Survival may be a good one. It is survival-mode with Dreambuilder.
03:18 sofar            oh, I had Z higher for the _cave spread, weird that that affects the entire landscape
03:19 LazyJ            BL-Free4All is a good one if you want more survival challenge.
03:20 LazyJ            H20 Watershed, is all together a different challenge because of the mapgen.
03:20 LazyJ            With that thought in mind, Xanadu is another server I've heard good things about (but have yet to tour).
03:22 LazyJ            LinuxGaming, King Arthur's Land, and H2O Watershed don't get a lot of player traffic. They are more reserved servers by their nature.
03:22 LazyJ            So app-kids quickly get bored on them.
03:22 LazyJ            Which is the way the grown-ups like it. >:D
03:23 TacticalAcorn    Definetly
03:23 TacticalAcorn    And watershed looks really nice I'm touring right now
03:23 LazyJ            Add BlueLobster-Pro to that list.
03:23 LazyJ            H2O Watershed is hosted in France, iirc.
03:23 LazyJ            The admin speaks fluent English.
03:24 LazyJ            But he has restrictions.
03:24 LazyJ            His server, his rules.
03:24 LazyJ            I'm looking for the link of the restricted build area map...
03:26 LazyJ            Here it is. In the upper left corner is a listing of the general rules. He prefers medieval or steam-punk builds.
03:26 LazyJ            http://h2o.minetest.in/protected_zones.png
03:26 LazyJ
03:26 TacticalAcorn    I like steampunk
03:27 LazyJ            The area outside of the "protected" zone is subject to wipes.
03:27 LazyJ            I gather the server-op edits the world database to save only the 2000x2000 square, central area and everything else outside of that gets reset from time to time.
03:28 LazyJ            I just toured it recently.
03:28 LazyJ            Not much development, build-wise, but then the server has only been public for a few months.
03:29 LazyJ            BlueLobster-Pro has been around for awhile and has some decent builds on it.
03:29 TacticalAcorn    Well bye and thanks for all the support
03:29 LazyJ            VE-Survival has gone through a few iterations, iirc but the spawn area is well developed.
03:29 LazyJ            yw ;)
03:33 JohnnyComeL8ly   est31: Use DuckDuckGo - my fav.
03:41 diemartin        o/
03:42 LazyJ            \o kaeza
03:42 diemartin        what's up¿
03:42 diemartin        *?
03:43 LazyJ            I'm sort of catching up on this channel, myself.
03:46 JohnnyComeL8ly   Same here!
05:49 JohnnyComeL8ly   Goodnight, fellow miners!
07:24 MinetestBot      02[git] 04est31 -> 03minetest/minetest: sound_openal.cpp: remove unused header 13bdfb761 http://git.io/v4OXr (152015-11-15T08:17:32+01:00)
07:33 sofar            does anyone know what the node name is for a birch tree slab?
07:34 sofar            I can create it, but unified_inventory can't find it in the item list, and I don't see it registered directly :/
07:39 sofar            moretrees:slab_birch_planks
07:39 sofar            moretrees:slab_oak_planks same same
08:16 MinetestBot      02[git] 04paramat -> 03minetest/minetest: Mgfractal: Revert unnecessary duplication of parameters 13cb7da90 http://git.io/v4O94 (152015-11-15T08:13:36Z)
08:53 jin_xi           wow mt feels really fast recently, terrain is emerging very smoothly and high fps with long view range
08:54 jin_xi           and i see lots of ABM took xxxms (longer thant 200ms) output
09:00 hmmmm            that's the second time somebody's commented on minetest being faster
09:00 hmmmm            we haven't done anything as of recent to cause this
09:01 est31            jin_xi, if you want you can bisect
09:01 est31            jin_xi, can you paste output of "git reflog"?
09:01 est31            and what git commit are you on right now
09:02 est31            but hmmmm is right, it wasn't intended to make minetest actually faster :)
09:02 hmmmm            i bet something is subtly broken
09:03 jin_xi           well, maybe its just subjective
09:03 jin_xi           would be nice to have some way of better testing
09:05 jin_xi           est im on your 'remove unused header' commit
09:07 est31            what has been the commit of the last build?
09:08 est31            you can see commit history with git reflog
09:12 jin_xi           bdfb761 i think
09:13 est31            no
09:13 est31            thats your current commit
09:13 est31            thats the header one
09:13 jin_xi           ops
09:14 jin_xi           0bf1984
09:15 est31            okay, thats a bit old
09:15 est31            seems we did something that improved subjective performance, interesting
09:21 MinetestBot      02[git] 04paramat -> 03minetest/minetest_game: Default/mapgen: Use sidelen 16 for low density decorations 130d49978 http://git.io/v4ONy (152015-11-15T09:20:21Z)
10:45 Krock            What does a nerd consume?
10:45 Krock            Hash.
10:51 technics         hi - its not possible to enable v7's snow biomes in v6, isnt it? are there only mods i had read they working bad?
10:52 technics         the wiki says, snow biones are available in v6 / v5 also, but i doesnt found any setting for that...http://wiki.minetest.net/Biomes
11:10 Krock            technics, add "snowbiomes" to the "mgv6_spflags" variable
11:10 Krock            it's found in the map_data.txt
11:11 Krock            s/data/meta/
11:14 technics         thanks Krock - i wondering if this file contain examples or direct settings?
11:14 technics         or are this generated settings from minetest.conf
11:14 technics         ?
11:14 Krock            those are the by-world settings
11:15 Krock            copied from your minetest.conf settings
11:15 technics         will this gerated
11:15 Krock            minetset.conf.example -> minetest.conf -> map_meta.txt, so chaning the last one will not change the minetest.conf file
11:16 technics         oops - will this generated after new settings or  have i do an echo > ?
11:16 * Krock          insterts a break here.. away
11:16 Krock            -t
11:21 technics         got it, thanks Krock, have a nice break^^
11:29 technics         omg, that makes cliphes like switching to a hole new mapgen :(
11:44 * Krock          return;
11:44 Krock            !next
11:44 MinetestBot      Another satisfied customer. Next!
11:46 technics         ^^ ... i dind expect that... https://files.tchncs.de/Images/Random/Screenshots/screenshot_20151115_124002.png
11:48 Krock            err. I told you to change that single param, not the whole file
11:56 technics         oh, than its good that i maked a backup of it...sorry, the mainproblem is my english^^
12:00 technics         yea, looks better now, thanks! :D
12:00 technics         !next
12:00 MinetestBot      Another satisfied customer. Next!
12:07 Krock            !cat
12:07 MinetestBot      http://i.imgur.com/A6Pw3Cf.jpg
12:08 Krock            meow, iz me, trapd
12:08 Krock            !cat
12:08 MinetestBot      http://i.imgur.com/3012uP2.jpg
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13:56 Sokomine         hi :-) i could use some feedback. mg_villages is mostly ready to be released. the documentation can be found under https://github.com/Sokomine/mg_villages/wiki   feedback regarding the docu is welcome
13:57 who_wants_some   nice to see it released
14:01 who_wants_some   will be cool to have a subgame with it and traders and mobs...
14:05 Sokomine         not quite released :-) but soon. i hope someone takes a look at the documentation and checks if it's halfway comprehensible and doesn't hurt a native speaker's eyes too much
14:06 Sokomine         i also intend to offer a modpack that contains all the mods mg_villages works well together with
14:42 who_wants_some   including mobs and traders? :}
14:47 who_wants_some   Sokomine, in some places you need carriage return
14:48 who_wants_some   Sokomine, beginning of the page has "A medievel village This mod adds...", where is . ?
14:50 who_wants_some   Sokomine, why do you need "farm_tiny_3" description for Plot N?
14:50 who_wants_some   it feels hacky
14:51 who_wants_some   Sokomine, add carriage returns after some pictures...
15:16 who_wants_some   Krock, is that only me or your last build has changed v_range calculation? i have it at 240 most of the time, including near forests (fps goes down to 30)
15:17 Krock            who_wants_some, there could be a new commit that had changes in the calculation
15:17 who_wants_some   don't see it on github...
15:22 who_wants_some   fps does look better
15:23 who_wants_some   still stuttering when generating meshes if I understand it correctly
15:23 Krock            hmm... acn't find any commit
15:23 who_wants_some   me too
15:23 who_wants_some   maybe some obscure change
15:24 who_wants_some   hmm
15:25 who_wants_some   i have strange brigthness pulsation when on snow... is this my monitor or shader problem?
15:26 who_wants_some   main_loop sleep is higher
15:28 who_wants_some   mesh load/gen causes stutter, hmm
15:29 who_wants_some   or whatever
15:29 who_wants_some   Krock, maybe it is ABM catch up thing, that was changed recently
15:34 Krock            Maybe. I don't know.
15:39 who_wants_some   just found 190 nodes high sand mountain ._.
15:43 Krock            climb it and dig until you find a water source
15:44 who_wants_some   why?
15:44 who_wants_some   it has rock basement, it will not fall down
15:45 who_wants_some   cute little floating islands with trees on top
15:45 who_wants_some   not bad
15:46 who_wants_some   love that seed
15:49 who_wants_some   here you go https://i.imgur.com/NdhRXa6.png
15:50 Krock            needs more JPEG
15:50 Krock            and UFOs
15:51 who_wants_some   it is png
15:51 who_wants_some   and no ufo
15:51 Krock            that's why it needs jpeg .P
15:51 who_wants_some   it is ifo
15:51 who_wants_some   identified flying object
15:51 who_wants_some   looks cool
15:51 Krock            identified... so you know why it's floating on there?
15:52 Krock            there's alse some anti-gravity sand
15:53 who_wants_some   that one is bad ass too https://i.imgur.com/ut47E8m.jpg
15:54 who_wants_some   and in jpeg
15:55 Krock            pls. http://needsmorejpeg.com/i/dfcq
15:55 Krock            png is just too good
15:55 Krock            but heh - that's a great view
15:55 who_wants_some   lol
15:56 who_wants_some   imgur converted it to jpg automatically
15:56 Krock            only if it's bigger than one or two megabytes
15:56 who_wants_some   Krock, 29kb! *unpacks his modem*
15:56 who_wants_some   this seed has 2 very big forests near each other on a big hill
15:57 phantombeta      [01:53.34 PM] <who_wants_some> that one is bad ass too https://i.imgur.com/ut47E8m.jpg // ow, I can feel the jpeg-ness
15:57 Krock            \o/ 56kbit modem
15:57 phantombeta      [01:55.08 PM] <Krock> pls. http://needsmorejpeg.com/i/dfcq // plsno
15:57 Krock            pls yet
15:57 Krock            *yes
15:57 phantombeta      this site is evil
15:57 phantombeta      pure evil
15:57 Krock            phantombeta, no, it saves a lot disk space!
15:58 who_wants_some   can you jpeg into jpeg again?
15:59 Krock            I doupt its possible to make it smaller again
15:59 phantombeta      Krock: I prefer not having disk space than not having eyes because I ripped them out.
15:59 phantombeta      Because that's what jpegs make me wanna do
16:01 * who_wants_some wonders if pcg_random has some effect on tree randomness and stuff
16:03 Krock            phantombeta, good to hear. Uploading all my screenshots there now :P
16:09 Calinou          JPEG RULEZ
16:10 Krock            ^
16:11 swift110-phone   Hey guys
16:11 Krock            Hi swifted phone
16:11 Calinou          hi hipster programming language
16:11 swift110-phone   Lol
16:12 swift110-phone   You guys are welcome to my channel #forthenerds
16:12 Krock            You're not in there
16:13 Calinou          Twilight Sparkle reacts to swift110-phone's channel: http://i.imgur.com/Gox7ToQ.png
16:18 swift110-phone   Lol
16:18 swift110-phone   I am in there
16:18 Krock            +1 Calinou
16:19 Krock            swift110-phone, bottom right, yes we know.
16:20 swift110-phone   Yep
16:20 Calinou          http://www.commitstrip.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/Strip-Le-type-de-Stackoverflow-650-finalenglish.jpg
16:25 who_wants_some   amazing
16:26 who_wants_some   jungle, pine forest and apple forest near each other
16:32 who_wants_some   A fatal error occured: bad allocation
16:32 who_wants_some   32 bit problems
16:34 swift110-phone   Wow
16:52 who_wants_some   interesting
16:53 who_wants_some   mountain top with rock on one side and sandstone on another
17:05 pium             Hi
17:48 who_wants_some   hi
19:17 fireglow         Is there a working nether mod? I've tried https://github.com/HybridDog/minetest-nether but the portals don't work, and the mapgen is somewhat broken.
19:38 Samson1          What is the command to teleport players using the command block in mesecones?
19:39 ElectronLibre    "teleport <player> <position|other player>"
19:39 Samson1          vOkay:)
19:39 Samson1          Okay*
19:39 Samson1          Say
19:39 Samson1          If you had a leaver
19:39 Samson1          What would the command be to teleport the player who activated the command block?
19:40 ElectronLibre    A wall lever? "teleport @nearest <position|player>"
19:40 Samson1          Oh
19:40 Samson1          Okay:)
19:40 ElectronLibre    In command blocks player names can be replaced by references like @nearest, @farthest, and @random.
19:40 Krock            Harry potter quote
19:41 Samson1          If there were to players next to it would it teleport both of them?
19:41 Krock            alket, Norbert is cute
19:41 ElectronLibre    Only the closest one.
19:41 Samson1          Okay:)
19:42 Samson1          I was just wondering because I have made a spawn in the sky for my server and I have made two command block say "welcome to Samson's world!" And I put nearest and it covers the hole spawn:\
19:42 alket            Kray: XD
19:43 alket            Krock: xD
19:43 Samson1          XD
19:43 Samson1          I don't know why but
19:43 Samson1          XD
19:43 Samson1          :D
19:46 Samson1          It's not working:\
19:46 Samson1          :/
19:46 Samson1          |D
19:46 ElectronLibre    People aren't teleported?
19:47 Samson1          Well
19:47 Samson1          There is only be to teleportXD
19:47 Samson1          No:)
19:47 ElectronLibre    "teleport" can only move one single player at a time.
19:47 Samson1          I am not being teleported
19:47 ElectronLibre    Are you the closest player to the block?
19:48 Samson1          Yes
19:48 Samson1          3 or 4 blocks away
19:48 ElectronLibre    Are you sure the lever switched the block on?
19:49 Samson1          I can try with a redstone torch:)
19:49 ElectronLibre    Mesecons, not redstone.
19:49 Samson1          XD
19:49 Samson1          I have changed the texture:D
19:49 Samson1          It looks like redstone:)
19:50 ElectronLibre    It's not, it's meant to be a restone-like mod for minetest, called mesecons.
19:50 Samson1          I have been thinking of changing the name for my server as wellXD
19:51 Samson1          I won't though
19:51 Samson1          I did not make the mod.
19:51 Samson1          Would you like me to tell you what I put in the command block?
19:51 ElectronLibre    You can't change mods' names that easily.
19:52 Samson1          I knowXD
19:52 Samson1          That's why I want to try and change it:D!
19:52 ElectronLibre    I only need to know if, adding a, let's say, "say <message>", in the block, do you see the <message>?
19:52 Samson1          Yes:)
19:52 Samson1          The command that I put in is this
19:53 ElectronLibre    If you're going to paste multiple lines use a paste service.
19:53 who_wants_some   hmm
19:53 who_wants_some   i see flame on my torch from lava.. but it is not destroying it
19:53 Samson1          "teleport @nearest (co words)
19:54 ElectronLibre    What are the coordinates?
19:54 Samson1          "teleport @nearest (coordinates) |player
19:54 Samson1          "
19:54 Samson1          They are
19:54 ElectronLibre    Okay, my bad.
19:55 Samson1          what?
19:55 ElectronLibre    the <1|2> means that you need to put either a 1-like parameter or a 2-like parameter, not both with a pipe character inbetween.
19:56 Samson1          3 353 - 153.0, 387 .4, 694.6
19:56 Samson1          I managed!
19:56 Samson1          :D
20:12 Samson1          ElectronLibre,  I have got it working! Thank you:)
20:13 ElectronLibre    You're welcome.
20:13 Samson1          ElectronLibre,  I had messed up the coordinates XD
20:13 Samson1          :)
20:13 ElectronLibre    Oh.
20:13 Samson1          Happy building:)
20:13 Samson1          :D
20:15 Samson1          ElectronLibre,  Er, just one more thing, I can you get a command block to say in chat "(player) teleported to (??)"
20:15 Samson1          How can you get a*
20:15 ElectronLibre    You can. I think that's the "say" command.
20:16 Samson1          Oh
20:16 Samson1          Silly me
20:16 Samson1          I did not think of that:P
20:17 Samson1          ElectronLibre,  how can I get it to say the players name that was teleported?
20:18 ElectronLibre    Err.
20:18 ElectronLibre    Use @nearest.
20:18 hoodedice        guys, help
20:18 Samson1          Okay
20:18 hoodedice        I think I'm becoming a microsoft shill
20:18 Samson1          don't worry
20:18 Samson1          :)
20:18 hoodedice        it started with me buying a Windows phone... then I activated Cortana and Location on both my laptop and phone
20:19 hoodedice        she's reminding me to wash the clothes, help meeeeeeeee
20:19 ElectronLibre    hoodedice: Now big brother knows what you dream about.
20:19 Samson1          hoodedice, My favourite operating system was Windows 98:D
20:19 hoodedice        also, I'm hyped for this for some reason https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GfWBSRibuVY =(
20:19 Samson1          :D!!
20:19 hoodedice        !title
20:19 MinetestBot      hoodedice: The New Microsoft Band - YouTube
20:20 Samson1          ElectronLibre,  So
20:20 Samson1          ElectronLibre,  What would/how would you do that?
20:21 Samson1          Would I just tell it to say "Player was teleported to spawn?
20:21 Samson1          I would prefer it if it said that players name
20:21 ElectronLibre    "say @nearest was teleported to the spawn" ; as far as I know about how those blocks replace the @something, it should work.
20:27 Samson1          Erm
20:27 Samson1          ElectronLibre, I am having  big problem with textures, like the moon and sun
20:28 ElectronLibre    What kind of problems?
20:28 Samson1          When I try and large them up in GIMP it does not work
20:28 hoodedice        large them?
20:29 hoodedice        as in, zoom in, or resize canvas?
20:29 Samson1          ElectronLibre,  The sun is 2018 PIX in diameter and it still stays the same
20:29 Samson1          resize
20:29 ElectronLibre    I think that's normal.
20:29 Samson1          Oh
20:29 Samson1          But
20:29 Samson1          Mm
20:30 ElectronLibre    You only change the resolution by rezising the picture ; the engine uses a hardcoded size.
20:30 Samson1          They are the size of the cursor
20:30 Samson1          Okay
20:30 Samson1          :)
20:30 ElectronLibre    The size of the cursor?
20:30 Samson1          Yes
20:30 Samson1          Tiny
20:31 ElectronLibre    Can you send a screenshot?
20:31 Samson1          I supose I have changed the cursor is well:D
20:31 Samson1          I can do:)
20:31 Samson1          I just don't know how toXD
20:31 Samson1          I can take it
20:31 Samson1          I would need to know how to sent it on XChat
20:32 hoodedice        upload to imgcrush or imgur
20:32 hoodedice        copy + paste URL
20:32 ElectronLibre    Use an image upload site like https://lut.im/ .
20:32 Samson1          Okay:)
20:32 Samson1          Okay:)
20:32 hoodedice        Okay:)
20:32 ElectronLibre    I must be sick, I saw three time the same message.
20:32 ElectronLibre    s/time/times.
20:33 hoodedice        *I saw the same message three times
20:34 ElectronLibre    Thanks for the grammar correction.
20:37 hoodedice        At this point, I wonder if English has it wrong with the word placement
20:37 hoodedice        Arabic and French, it works like this: "The tree tall"
20:37 hoodedice        That reminds me, Calinou, how are you doing?
20:38 ElectronLibre    I used a french-like form to build that sentence, that's why it was incorrect.
20:39 hoodedice        incorrect it may be in English, but stop you no one can from Yoda =D
20:40 Samson1          ElectronLibre,  Here is a link to the sun
20:40 Samson1          ElectronLibre,  https://lut.im/wqImIbTeWO/9gNudeoZeznvXByK.png
20:40 hoodedice        that looks about alright to me, Sam
20:40 ElectronLibre    It's normal size.
20:40 Calinou          hi hoodedice, I'm fine
20:40 Samson1          ElectronLibre,  Here is a link to the moon and cursor: https://lut.im/g4LZqd3opD/DIArZDIMuGnZTvZ0.png
20:41 hoodedice        Good to hear that
20:41 Samson1          It's very small to what it's men't to be
20:41 Calinou          hoodedice, https://github.com/Calinou/veraball
20:41 Calinou          it's a game I made in 2 days
20:41 Calinou          (3D, uses Godot)
20:42 ElectronLibre    Samson1: No problems about those.
20:42 hoodedice        (I asked in context of the recent attacks)
20:42 Samson1          If you look at the sun in JohnSmith texturepack, (on Minecraft) its 1/2 times bigger
20:42 hoodedice        also, still shilling for roboto, eh?
20:42 hoodedice        Noto is much better
20:43 Samson1          ElectronLibre, Okay, should I just ignore it then?
20:43 ElectronLibre    You should.
20:43 ElectronLibre    You can't do anything as far as I know.
20:43 Calinou          hoodedice, the game uses PT Sans :P
20:44 Calinou          oh nevermind
20:44 Calinou          it actually uses Roboto
20:44 hoodedice        I'm looking at the basic logic, and the code actually looks good to read
20:44 Calinou          yeah I'm mixing stuff up
20:44 Calinou          I tried making better logic in my code, but it is still far from perfect.
20:44 hoodedice        too bad I'm too involved with C at this point to learn newer things
20:44 Calinou          I should apply object-oriented principles, since Godot is best used with those
20:44 Calinou          I try to use AnimationPlayer for animations as often as possible
20:45 Calinou          this reduces the amount of code required
20:45 Calinou          the whole game is ~150 lines of code
20:45 hoodedice        TBH, OOP goes well on godot from my understanding
20:45 hoodedice        given that you can have a whole scene for each object
20:46 Calinou          every script is pretty much its own object
20:46 hoodedice        it just screams OBJECT
20:46 Calinou          hoodedice, the plan is to have a modern-looking Neverball-style game, with easy level creation
20:46 Calinou          and possibly networked multiplayer
20:46 hoodedice        hf with that
20:47 Calinou          Neverball is great but it has dated graphics, no multiplayer…
20:47 Calinou          and it isn't easy to make levels for
20:47 hoodedice        If I get free time after this semester, I might actually work to get actual C skills
20:47 hoodedice        not the ones from 1989
20:47 hoodedice        then I want to write up that modding GUI thing I talked about a few years ago =P
20:47 Calinou          in 2 days I have 2 oral presentations to give (as a student)
20:47 Calinou          one on Google, one on The Social Network (the 2010 movie)
20:48 hoodedice        ewww
20:48 hoodedice        hf
20:48 hoodedice        talk about how material design sucks
20:48 hoodedice        and how big of a cunt zukerberg was
20:48 hoodedice        =P
20:48 hoodedice        also, http://jordach.net/m88
20:48 hoodedice        school's been keeping me from updating it
20:48 Calinou          I actually talk a bit about their open source projects
20:49 Calinou          including Material Design Lite, their CSS framework
20:49 hoodedice        google's hit that point where I can compare their software to ubuntu
20:50 hoodedice        it is more free, and easier to mess around with, but it is as usable as a daily driver as a conventional laptop with ubuntu
20:50 rubenwardy       hoodedice, why do you have a dir on jordach's website?
20:50 hoodedice        where your wifi bugs out every 30 minutes
20:50 hoodedice        BECAUSE I CAN
20:50 rubenwardy       My website has undergone mega changes recently: http://rubenwardy.com/
20:50 hoodedice        (I paid for half of it to use it as a build machine, but never got the time to configure things -- a celeron can do only so many big builds a day)
20:51 * hoodedice      high fives rubenwardy for using the white on black approach
20:51 Calinou          rubenwardy, simple and clean
20:51 Calinou          loads quite quickly
20:52 rubenwardy       I like minimalism
20:53 rubenwardy       I'm not quite happy with it, it looks colorless
20:53 hoodedice        I am going to make my website animations out of wow.js only
20:53 hoodedice        that is all I need
20:53 hoodedice        this reminds me -- I am also going to write up a C program that runs server side every weekend and updates the site
20:54 rubenwardy       My website works without JS almost unnoticably
20:54 hoodedice        converts txt files in markdown I drop into the site's owncloud into html and css
20:54 rubenwardy       The only thing JS adds is a smooth scroll
20:54 rubenwardy       A 4.3KB file is used for that
20:54 Calinou          your smooth scroll is extremely fast
20:54 Calinou          too fast even, I'd say
20:54 rubenwardy       I also use jQuery because I'm lazy
20:54 rubenwardy       I want it to be subtile
20:54 hoodedice        is mine heavy?
20:54 Calinou          jQuery :(
20:55 Calinou          try Zepto
20:55 Calinou          maybe it'll work
20:55 Calinou          http://zeptojs.com/
20:55 Calinou          less than 10 KB when gzipped and minified
20:55 rubenwardy       I only use jQuery to change the opacity of an element depending on how far the page is scrolled down
20:56 rubenwardy       All my js is FOSS
20:56 rubenwardy       as expected
20:56 rubenwardy       and LibreJS compatible
20:57 Calinou          do you really need IE 8 support?
20:57 Calinou          you added a conditional comment for Respond.js and html5shiv
20:58 rubenwardy       no, but I'll add it anyway
20:58 Calinou          also, if you're using jQuery, at least use 2.0
20:58 Calinou          it's a tad lighter :)
20:59 rubenwardy       ok
21:00 rubenwardy       I aim to convert it to raw JS maybe
21:00 rubenwardy       I don't use much
21:01 Out`Of`Control   Hi, running recent hud_hunger mod keep getting this  "ERROR[Server]: Better HUD[error]: Not enough parameters given to change HUD item"
21:01 rubenwardy       I'm remaking Atari's Pong for the extension of my uni computing coursework
21:01 rubenwardy       It's set weekly
21:01 rubenwardy       more like graded  homework than coursework
21:03 Calinou          too bad you can't use Godot :3
21:03 rubenwardy       meh
21:03 rubenwardy       too much overhead and learning
21:03 rubenwardy       I have to use SDL, anyway
21:04 rubenwardy       and C.
21:04 rubenwardy       I don't like SDL
21:04 rubenwardy       SFML > SFL
21:04 rubenwardy       * SDL
21:05 Calinou          overhead? Godot seems to use little CPU on my system
21:05 Calinou          even my laptop
21:06 Calinou          and it's quite intuitive, I didn't read any AnimationPlayer tutorials yet I can use it :P
21:08 hoodedice        !g sfml
21:08 MinetestBot      hoodedice: http://www.sfml-dev.org/
21:09 Calinou          http://www.sfml-dev.org/download/bindings.php
21:09 Calinou          hmm, nice
21:09 Calinou          but the Python one isn't up-to-date :(
21:09 Calinou          I ordered Python / JavaScript / Node.js stickers from here BTW: https://notifuse.com/stickers
21:10 Calinou          before they went overbooked with the requests
21:50 who_wants_some   what can i do with diamond shard?
21:51 hoodedice        is it from a mod?
21:58 who_wants_some   nope
21:59 who_wants_some   sorry, i mean "Mese Crystal Fragment"
21:59 hoodedice        some mods have support for it
21:59 who_wants_some   nevermind, found info already
22:01 rubenwardy       Calinou, you can get $50 of Digital Ocean credit if you add your uni email to github (it can be private) and go to some web form
22:01 rubenwardy       https://education.github.com/pack
22:02 hoodedice        thanks ruben!
22:03 Calinou          rubenwardy, I already have an host but thanks
22:52 rubenwardy       yay!#
22:52 rubenwardy       Coursework is done!
22:56 rubenwardy       Pong screenshot: https://twitter.com/rubenwardy/status/666026862146113536
23:14 luizrpgluiz      Hello, does anyone know how to generate a construction like in mod of ruins in the wasteland?
23:25 luizrpgluiz      hi
23:33 hoodedice        hey, I'm here, but I cannot help you with that issue unfortunately =(
23:33 hoodedice        hang around a bit, someone might pop up
23:41 luizrpgluiz      hoodedice:you talked to me?
23:41 hoodedice        yeah
23:42 luizrpgluiz      hoodedice: you do mods for minetest?
23:42 hoodedice        I do not, unfortunately
23:42 hoodedice        I used to play this and also manage the twitter, but I no longer find time to do so
23:43 hoodedice        if you are asking about generating buildings like in wasteland or villages, then I suggest you look at the source code for those mods
23:46 luizrpgluiz      hoodedice: you can generate a treedef or L-system tree in map generator ?
23:47 hoodedice        I think I heard certain mod-devs talking about that
23:47 hoodedice        let me dig up the lua_api.txt
23:50 who_wants_some   question, how can i craft everything at once?
23:50 who_wants_some   middle button can craft 10 items