Time  Nick           Message
00:36 Hijiri         JBB: I use xmpp chat for instant messaging for the few people who I know that also use xmpp
01:52 hoodedice      is the lua_api.txt more updated, or dev.minetest.net wiki?
01:54 MinetestBot    02[git] 04paramat -> 03minetest/minetest_game: Default/trees: Clean-up 'can grow' function 13321bd66 http://git.io/vWP5F (152015-10-27T01:51:54Z)
02:07 wolvenheart    hello I have a .... bug I guess and I am trying to fix it
02:08 wolvenheart    I didnt play minetest for a bit and when I opened it up my entire world turned red...
02:09 wolvenheart    like literally everything is red.
02:11 VanessaE       turn off your shaders
02:12 VanessaE       or switch to opengl for your MT driver
02:12 wolvenheart    I looked into the console and it said "Irrlicht: Could not open file or texture: character.png"
02:12 VanessaE       ignore that, see above.
02:12 wolvenheart    Shaders... where do I do that then... is it in the main options?
02:13 VanessaE       int he Settings menu
02:13 VanessaE       Main Menu -> Settings tab -> un-check "Shaders"
02:13 wolvenheart    Thank you for the assistance
02:14 wolvenheart    that took care of it, again thank you.
02:14 VanessaE       a red screen means the shaders didn't compile (or compiled wrongly).  sometimes that means wrong video driver
02:14 hoodedice      which OS are you on? Windows?
02:15 wolvenheart    yeah i just got windows 10...
02:15 hoodedice      Yeah, if you have any special video card, try updating the drivers through your graphics card's website
02:15 VanessaE       no, not that.
02:15 VanessaE       I meant minetest's driver setting
02:16 VanessaE       red shaders means you're using DirectX mode.
02:16 VanessaE       you have to use OpenGL mode for them to work
02:16 hoodedice      hmm, switching to opengl could solve things
02:16 wolvenheart    oh.... okay... I dont think i have that but I will look into it.
02:16 hoodedice      The switching thing is in the same settings screen.
02:16 wolvenheart    meh I dont really need it anyway.
02:17 hoodedice      Minetest with shaders is really good looking, and not really that hard on modern hardware
02:18 wolvenheart    meh... as long as I can play with out going. "what am I trying to hit?" I think I will be okay
02:18 hoodedice      that being said, Van, lua_api.txt vs dev.minetest.net for bleeding edge changes
02:18 wolvenheart    thanks again for the advice.
02:18 hoodedice      you're welcome =)
02:18 hoodedice      !next
02:18 MinetestBot    Another satisfied customer. Next!
04:19 JohnnyComeL8ly Good evening, America, this is John, your host on All Things Fun and Funny.
05:12 JohnnyComeL8ly Once there was a lady ~87 yo.  She heard from her pastor to quote scripture when in a crisis, so one night, while knitting in her chair, she hears someone breaking in.  She quickly turned out the light and waited to see what would happen. The burglar walked into the room and she started yelling "Freeze, Acts 3:57!"  This stopped the burglar in his tracks, and he stayed there until the cops came... the cops asked him why he didn't move
05:12 JohnnyComeL8ly and he told them, that, he heard her saying she had an Axe and a .357
05:23 JohnnyComeL8ly #ROFLjokes
06:39 MinetestBot    02[git] 04kwolekr -> 03minetest/minetest: Move basic, non-numeric macros from util/numeric.h to basicmacros.h 1327eed13 http://git.io/vWX2l (152015-10-27T01:53:45-04:00)
08:18 CWz            got an error during compile
08:19 CWz            http://pastebin.com/LnyHbj35
10:12 JamesTait      Good morning all; happy Tuesday, and happy Cranky Co-Workers Day! 😃
10:29 Ingar          the Cranky Co-Worker, that would be me
12:06 rubenwardy     New video! https://youtu.be/0FZmsk-ECnk
12:06 stoneminer     hi
12:11 rubenwardy     I'm trying to use audacity to record my voice whilst playing a game, but the screen flickers - any suggestions?
12:12 rubenwardy     what it could be caused by?
12:12 PilzAdam       audacity
12:12 rubenwardy     lol
12:12 rubenwardy     suggestions for other s/w?
12:16 kahrl          ffmpeg, maybe
12:21 stoneminer     What's your OS?
12:23 rubenwardy     xubuntu
12:23 rubenwardy     14.04
12:26 rubenwardy     ffmpeg -f alsa -ac 2 -ar 44100 -i hw:0 out.wav    seems to work
12:37 stoneminer     Where do I find other Minetest channels?
13:00 PilzAdam       stoneminer, what do you mean?
13:01 Out`Of`Control stoneminer:  /msg alis list #minetest*
13:01 stoneminer     Is that an IRC command or what?
13:02 Out`Of`Control si
13:04 stoneminer     thx for the info
13:13 swift110-phone Good morning
13:31 Samson1        Will a PvP command be added in the next version of Minetest?
13:32 VanessaE       pvp command?
13:32 sfan5          a PvP command?
13:32 Samson1        Yes:)
13:32 VanessaE       meaning?
13:32 sfan5          what would it do?
13:33 Samson1        I mean like
13:33 VanessaE       sfan5: double-ninja'd ;)
13:33 Samson1        enable PvP for a player
13:33 Samson1        That sort of thing:)
13:33 Samson1        Say
13:33 sfan5          so basically per-player pvp enable/disable?
13:33 Samson1        Yes
13:33 Samson1        Like
13:34 Samson1        ./enable PvP "playername"
13:35 VanessaE       that's doable with a mod now, isn't it?
13:35 sfan5          it is?
13:35 Samson1        is it?
13:35 Obani          it is
13:35 VanessaE       I don't know, I just seem to remember seeing API functions that might facilitate it
13:36 Samson1        what is the mod?
13:36 Obani          Let me find the link
13:36 Samson1        Okay:)
13:36 Obani          https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=13137
13:36 Obani          was quite quick :p
13:36 Samson1        It's just that for my server I need PvP for short films but if everyone has it there will be bones every where
13:36 VanessaE       https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt#L1836
13:37 VanessaE       "should return `true` to prevent the default damage mechanism"
13:37 Samson1        Okay:)
13:37 Samson1        Thank you
13:38 Samson1        It would still be fun if it was in the default game though:D
13:40 Obani          The PvP button ?
13:40 Samson1        Well, as I am the server owner I would like to control everything by a command
13:41 Samson1        You know, be able to do stuff that know one else can do:D
13:41 Samson1        Oh I see
13:41 Obani          You mean like that ? https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=13478 :p
13:41 Samson1        Silly me:\
13:42 Samson1        :D
13:42 Samson1        It would be nice if the PvP button could be added:D
13:42 Obani          If you're the owner you can still add it :)
13:42 Obani          But I don't think it would fit with minetest_game
13:42 Samson1        YesxD
13:43 Samson1        Mmm
13:43 Samson1        I could all ways make my own game:D
13:43 Samson1        Make a branch of from Minetest:D
13:43 Obani          So on your server you need : PvP Button, setpgrav and WorldEdit xD
13:44 Samson1        Sort of:D
13:44 Obani          Samson1, The server I work with has it's own game :x https://github.com/MinetestForFun/server-minetestforfun
13:44 Obani          But it's kinda fat xD
13:47 Obani          And add this to admin stuff :p https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JhbfV2cYHg
13:48 Obani          Samson1
13:48 Samson1        Okay:)
13:48 Samson1        I am having a look:)
13:50 Samson1        I love that:D
13:50 Samson1        if you don't want some one is your house and they won't move just  throw then outxD!
13:50 Samson1        I am having that:D
13:50 Obani          :D
13:51 Out`Of`Control Samson1:  play singleplayer then :D
13:51 Samson1        :D
13:52 Obani          Out`Of`Control, NPC do not rage :(
13:54 Out`Of`Control cool gravity gun
13:55 Out`Of`Control Obani:  did you try hit mobs with mob?
13:56 Obani          Out`Of`Control, I didn't try the mod :p
13:56 Obani          Actually I rarely play Minetest
13:56 Out`Of`Control ok
14:09 Samson1        :0
14:09 Samson1        :)*
14:10 Samson1        How do you set a default spawn point in a world? I think there might be a mod around that adds /setspawn
14:10 Samson1        I have been looking all over the place and I have not found anything
14:10 Obani          You can set it in minetest.conf I think
14:11 Obani          see minetest.conf.example
14:11 Samson1        Okay:)
14:11 Samson1        Where will I find it?
14:12 Obani          see minetest.conf.example
14:12 Obani          in minetest repository
14:13 Obani          Samson1, https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/minetest.conf.example
14:15 Obani          Samson1, https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/minetest.conf.example#L830
14:23 Samson1        I can not find where it says about spawn:(
14:24 Obani          line 830
14:24 Obani          static_spawnpoint =
14:24 Obani          I gave you the link
14:26 Obani          Samson1,
14:26 Samson1        :)
14:26 Samson1        Having a look:)
14:28 Samson1        Found it
14:29 Samson1        I was looking at line 330xD
14:29 Obani          .¬.
14:30 Samson1        :D
14:31 Samson1        I have to go now
14:31 Samson1        It's been nice talking to you:)
14:32 Obani          You're welcome :)
14:32 Obani          bb
14:42 swift110-phone Hmm
14:50 Megaf          Hi all, anyone else having problems compiling the server from a clean git clone from master?
14:50 Megaf          can you try for me please? I have this error http://paste.debian.net/plain/318351
14:50 JohnnyComeL8ly I'll let you know in a minute.
14:54 Megaf          I think its a know bug
14:54 Megaf          https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/3296
14:55 JohnnyComeL8ly And you're talking about just a server, right?
14:55 Megaf          JohnnyComeL8ly: well, I haven't tried the client yet, I was jut updating my server, and it is a known bug indeed https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/3296
14:56 Megaf          I wonder why devs don't try to run the thing before sending and merging to master
14:56 PilzAdam       Megaf, hmmmm apparently thinks he's cooler than compilers
14:57 Megaf          PilzAdam: if the fix is that simple just merge it
14:58 Megaf          wait
14:59 JohnnyComeL8ly lol cooler than GCC
14:59 PilzAdam       "If you have a small patch, fixing some compiler error or other trivial mistake, notify about fixing it on #minetest-dev, wait for 5...15 minutes and push it." – http://dev.minetest.net/Git_Guidelines
14:59 Megaf          cool
14:59 Megaf          I will wait then, thanks a million PilzAdam
15:01 JohnnyComeL8ly Megaf: That is basically what I'm getting too.
15:01 MinetestBot    02[git] 04PilzAdam -> 03minetest/minetest: Fix missing #include 13c406438 http://git.io/vWMS1 (152015-10-27T15:55:34+01:00)
15:02 JohnnyComeL8ly Only, I have "
15:02 JohnnyComeL8ly std::sort(modlist.begin(), modlist.end());
15:02 JohnnyComeL8ly ^
15:02 JohnnyComeL8ly "
15:03 JohnnyComeL8ly That line is right below "
15:03 JohnnyComeL8ly "
15:03 JohnnyComeL8ly /home/john/.apps/minetest/src/script/lua_api/l_server.cpp:380:2: error: ‘sort’ is not a member of ‘std’
15:03 JohnnyComeL8ly Ah, it thought it was a cmd...
15:04 JohnnyComeL8ly I was bested by my poor posting skills.
15:04 JohnnyComeL8ly In case you want to know, this is my cmake cmd:
15:04 JohnnyComeL8ly cmake -DRUN_IN_PLACE=1 -DENABLE_LUAJIT=TRUE -DLUA_INCLUDE_DIR=/home/john/.apps/LuaJIT-2.0.4/src/ -DLUA_LIBRARY=/home/john/.apps/LuaJIT-2.0.4/src/libluajit.a -DBUILD_SERVER=TRUE -DBUILD_CLIENT=FALSE
15:05 JohnnyComeL8ly I just tacked the last two flags on there from my usual config.
15:06 Megaf          JohnnyComeL8ly: you can use 0 and 1 instead of false and true
15:06 JohnnyComeL8ly Oh, ok.
15:07 Megaf          well, is compiling now
15:07 JohnnyComeL8ly With what version?
15:07 Megaf          I hope it runs when it finishes compiling :P
15:08 JohnnyComeL8ly What did you do to it?
15:08 Megaf          JohnnyComeL8ly: latest git, PilzAdam has just pushed the fix for that
15:08 JohnnyComeL8ly Oh, ok.
15:08 JohnnyComeL8ly How do it get the latest? (I forget the cmd....)
15:08 Megaf          JohnnyComeL8ly: thank you :)
15:08 Megaf          JohnnyComeL8ly: well, I do git pull
15:09 Megaf          actually, i dont, but git pull is the way to get the latest stuff from the branch master
15:09 Megaf          if you used git clone in the first place
15:09 Megaf          on my server I wrote a script that always do a git clone after removing the old things
15:09 JohnnyComeL8ly Yeah, "git clone --depth 1 URL
15:09 JohnnyComeL8ly "
15:10 Megaf          these intel xeons are so slow to compile with a single core
15:10 PilzAdam       Megaf, why even use git when you always clone?
15:10 Megaf          my core2duo is quicker :P
15:10 PilzAdam       you can just wget the tarball
15:10 JohnnyComeL8ly It said, "1 file changed, 2 insertions(+)"
15:10 Megaf          PilzAdam: good point
15:11 Megaf          !server Megaf
15:11 MinetestBot    Megaf: Megaf Server v4.0 | mt.megaf.info:30003 | Clients: 0/9, 0/0 | Version: 0.4.13-Megaf / MegafXploreNext | Ping: 8ms
15:11 JohnnyComeL8ly What? I don't get what just happened....
15:11 Megaf          cool
15:11 Megaf          JohnnyComeL8ly: you updated your build
15:11 JohnnyComeL8ly What was PilzAdam talking about?
15:11 Megaf          your snapshot
15:11 Megaf          or whatever
15:11 JohnnyComeL8ly I did use "git pull"
15:13 JohnnyComeL8ly What does Doxygen do for me?
15:13 JohnnyComeL8ly Is it desirable?
15:13 PilzAdam       JohnnyComeL8ly, do you like pretty pictures?
15:14 JohnnyComeL8ly I suppose....
15:15 PilzAdam       it generates stuff like this: https://ixquick-proxy.com/do/spg/show_picture.pl?l=english&rais=1&oiu=http%3A%2F%2Felastos.org%2Fredmine%2Fattachments%2Fdownload%2F126&sp=9e14c697f785816d526e1278e5c2582a
15:15 PilzAdam       developers love it
15:16 JohnnyComeL8ly That is cool, but I don't understand what the words mean (I'm not a dev).
15:16 PilzAdam       you can print it out and decorate your walls with it
15:17 PilzAdam       you don't need to understand it for that
15:17 JohnnyComeL8ly And, that's what you meant by that... thanks, I thought I was missing something.
15:17 JohnnyComeL8ly No, I could find better looking lines, like race cars and such to put up on the wall if I so desired.
15:18 JohnnyComeL8ly Not that I'm into them, just an example.
15:19 JohnnyComeL8ly Btw, you wouldn't happen to know how to make MT work as a Wayland client, would you?
15:19 PilzAdam       I guess you should look at Irrlicht
15:19 PilzAdam       it does all the window creation and stuff
15:19 JohnnyComeL8ly Ok.
15:30 JohnnyComeL8ly Megaf: I suppose I shouldn't be surprised to see you on #irrlicht.... ;-)
15:32 Megaf          heh, I like joining on related project channels of the projects I like
15:33 JohnnyComeL8ly I should do that too.
15:41 JohnnyComeL8ly Another question... how come the standard MT source from GitHub doesn't have LuaJIT?
15:44 kahrl          bundling it is discouraged by the luajit devs
15:44 JohnnyComeL8ly They don't have confidence enough in it yet?
15:45 kahrl          no, they just want devs to treat it as an external dependency
15:45 JohnnyComeL8ly So that ppl are more likely to get the latest version?
15:46 kahrl          no idea
15:46 JohnnyComeL8ly (That's my first thought after what you said....)
15:46 kahrl          I never looked into it
15:47 kahrl          http://luajit.org/install.html, first bullet point under "Embedding LuaJIT"
15:48 kahrl          (it doesn't say *why* it is suggested)
15:49 JohnnyComeL8ly Ok.  On a side note, I just learned that Xbox 360 uses PPC....
15:50 JohnnyComeL8ly As did, the PS3.
16:02 luizrpgluiz    hi
16:18 JohnnyComeL8ly Hello, luizrpgluiz.
16:19 luizrpgluiz    JohnnyComeL8ly: hi :)
16:19 JohnnyComeL8ly :-)
16:20 luizrpgluiz    JohnnyComeL8ly: you are player, developer or both?
16:20 JohnnyComeL8ly Wannabe both. ;-)
16:21 JohnnyComeL8ly Eventually....
16:22 luizrpgluiz    JohnnyComeL8ly: I'm still learning a bit of LUA script
16:22 JohnnyComeL8ly Cool.
16:23 luizrpgluiz    JohnnyComeL8ly: just that I'm the one who does not understand anything of generating worlds, generation of trees, ie more complex mods
16:24 JohnnyComeL8ly Gotcha.
16:24 JohnnyComeL8ly I don't have time now for that... have to do school and work.
16:25 luizrpgluiz    JohnnyComeL8ly: feel free, I still do not know much yet about these more complex codes
16:31 luizrpgluiz    est31: hi :)
16:32 est31          hi :)
16:32 JohnnyComeL8ly Yes, hello, est31.
16:32 est31          hello to you, too
16:33 JohnnyComeL8ly ;-)
16:35 luizrpgluiz    est31: I just saw in the Minetest development IRC, you could put the ncurses in the game, it means that when I open the terminal server mode, we will be able to enter commands at the operating system terminal?
16:36 est31          yes
16:36 est31          you start the server with --terminal
16:36 JohnnyComeL8ly Cool!
16:38 luizrpgluiz    est31: I know that this function already exists in minecraft right?
16:38 JohnnyComeL8ly Megaf, Idk if you noticed, but I asked over on #irrlicht about Wayland support. ;-)
16:39 est31          I think some minecraft server implementations have this, yes.
16:40 JohnnyComeL8ly luizrpgluiz, that's a funny way to ask a question.... :-D
16:42 luizrpgluiz    JohnnyComeL8ly: yes, I apologize for my English, I am that I am Brazilian
16:44 JohnnyComeL8ly luizrpgluiz: I suppose I should've guessed that... I try not to correct everybody's English, because most don't appreciate it.
16:46 luizrpgluiz    JohnnyComeL8ly: you brazilian?
16:46 JohnnyComeL8ly No, Texan! :-D
16:47 JohnnyComeL8ly (American)
16:48 luizrpgluiz    JohnnyComeL8ly: :D
16:48 JohnnyComeL8ly What's it like being in a famous-for-football country?
16:49 JohnnyComeL8ly I like to call it soccer....
16:58 luizrpgluiz    JohnnyComeL8ly: I do not like football you have in Brazil, I like to play volleyball and play with my friends will computer
17:02 JohnnyComeL8ly I like volleyball too.
17:03 JohnnyComeL8ly I've never actually played soccer/football, but I like watching, and I've wanted to learn.
17:19 Krock          Hi
17:20 luizrpgluiz    Krock: Hi :D
17:59 Krock          Lol. Some diagnostic program is a perfect pagefault generator. 6.3 Millions within 7 mintes
18:06 CWz            are atom processors weak?
18:14 CWz            ehy est31
18:14 est31          hi
18:17 E4xoi          football is kinda nice
18:40 luizrpgluiz    est31:this update of ncurses will be available in version 0.4.14 of minetest?
18:42 est31          luizrpgluiz, not 100% sure of it yet, but I guess so
18:42 est31          the PR has to get merged
18:45 luizrpgluiz    est31: because if it is possible, it will be a great help for administrators to update the server minetest
19:20 CWz            what is ncurses
19:21 est31          a library for the terminal
19:37 Calinou        CWz, yes, they are pretty weak compared to eg. Core i3
19:37 Calinou        older ones are a mayhem of slowness
19:43 Calinou        anyone knows how to disable VSync on a NVIDIA Optimus laptop running Windows?
19:43 Calinou        I set both Intel and NVIDIA to have application-controlled VSync, I disable it in game, but it's still enabled
19:48 Krock          So it's locked to 60 fps?
19:49 Calinou        yep, and stutters when going below 60 fps
19:49 Calinou        (that is my real concern)
19:49 Calinou        also creates input lag
19:50 Krock          Umm.. noticing freezes under 60 fps is totally normal..
19:54 Calinou        Krock, yeah, but VSync strongly increases those
19:54 Calinou        it's known as "stuttering"
19:55 Krock          Uh. lived with it all the time xD
19:55 JohnnyComeL8ly I live with sub-par hardware.... ;-)
19:57 Krock          sub-par??
20:45 Ingar          are there wav sources for the sounds currently in minetest_game ?
20:46 PilzAdam       Ingar, not that I know of
20:52 Ingar          I tried normalizing mine
20:52 Ingar          but then the originals sound too loud
20:53 Ingar          it's playable thoug, and imho better than the default ^^
20:53 Ingar          just the dirt that keeps bothering me
20:53 PilzAdam       do you have a git branch with them?
20:53 Ingar          yea on github, let me find the link
20:54 est31          no lossless version?
20:54 est31          bad :/
20:54 Ingar          https://github.com/IngarKCT/minetest_game/tree/ingar/sound-footsteps
20:54 Ingar          est31: the engine wouldn't load wav files
20:55 est31          Ingar, still there should be a lossless version around, e.g. for the case there is a better codec
20:55 est31          like one day irrlicht will support opus
20:56 est31          then we wont need ogg anymore
20:56 Ingar          est31: I'll release the wav version as well
20:56 est31          and it doesnt need to be wav, FLAC is enough
20:56 Ingar          est31: I keep the original recordings as FLAC ;)
20:57 Ingar          them wavs are rather small, and gamedevs always like ready-to-download soundbits
20:57 est31          FLAC even smaller
20:58 est31          and its no microsoft format
20:58 Calinou        https://github.com/inexor-game/audioaugust
20:58 Calinou        CC BY 4.0 sound collection, FLAC format
21:00 PilzAdam       Ingar, why do dirt with grass and dirt have so drastically different dug sounds?
21:00 PilzAdam       that doesn't make sense to me
21:01 PilzAdam       also walking on grass has a way too loud bass-line
21:01 Ingar          PilzAdam: the games uses/used the footstep sound as dug sound
21:01 Ingar          I haven't made a specific dirt/dug sound yet
21:02 PilzAdam       and stone walking sounds have a reverb effect that makes me feel like I'm inside something
21:02 Ingar          might be the echo of the room where I recorded it
21:03 PilzAdam       if the game used footstep as dug sound then change it
21:03 Ingar          PilzAdam: yeah I did that for grass :)
21:03 Ingar          I just need to find something that can serve as dirt sound
21:04 Ingar          outside recording is too hard, near impossible
21:04 Ingar          wind, planes, rain, dogs, people, cars, ...
21:05 Ingar          PilzAdam: do you think the glass/ice footstep will work?
21:06 Ingar          ike, the concept
21:06 Ingar          *like
21:07 PilzAdam       it doesn't sound bad, but it's not what I would have expected
21:09 PilzAdam       what you currently have as grass footsteps may work for dirt
21:09 PilzAdam       it has this kinda muddy feeling to it
21:09 Ingar          there's an idea
21:10 PilzAdam       wood footsteps are really good
21:11 PilzAdam       wood punching has this "dull reverb" effect
21:11 PilzAdam       (don't know how to describe it)
21:11 Ingar          the same problem as the stone footstep
21:11 Ingar          (recorded in the same location, with different shoes)
21:12 Ingar          I"ll need to redo those
21:12 PilzAdam       yea, that makes sense
21:12 PilzAdam       btw, I really appreciate that you are doing this
21:13 Ingar          np
21:13 Ingar          I like doing random stuff :)
21:13 Ingar          and it has been an interesting experience so far
21:14 Ingar          PilzAdam: and thanks for the input as well
21:14 Ingar          now I just have to find a large concrete block I can put in the garage
21:16 PilzAdam       also keep in mind that some sounds are missing, like leave placement
21:16 PilzAdam       don't limit yourself by just replacing the existing stuff
21:23 Calinou        we could have player join/leave, player talk
21:23 Calinou        those are very important
21:23 Calinou        come on, Quake 3 Arena has such sounds :)
21:23 est31          TTS?
21:23 Calinou        no, not TTS
21:23 Calinou        just chat beep and join/leave notification
21:23 Calinou        TTS is often DOUBLE FACEPALM-worth
21:24 est31          it would be one thing already if you heard the footsteps of other players
21:25 Calinou        you already do
21:25 Calinou        but you don't hear dig/place :(
21:25 Calinou        only footsteps
21:28 alket          maybe some mumble integration for live talk xD
21:28 Calinou        we planned on doing Mumble positional audio support
21:30 alket          yeah, positional must be a must
21:40 Ingar          positional shouting with high volume and reverb
21:40 Ingar          or rather, a decent echo
21:45 v32itas        oi
21:45 v32itas        this minetest is just awesome
21:46 v32itas        been at -1024 deep and 1100 height and minecraft would just have blown up at such positions
21:46 v32itas        and no ugly lags like minecraft does ignoring what hardware you have
21:47 Nemin          Hi! I have a problem, would someone please help? minetest.place_node doesnt work for me.
21:49 Nemin          on_punch = function(pos, a)   minetest.place_node({pos.x,pos.y+1,pos.z}, {name="default:dirt"})
21:49 Nemin          What is wrong with this code?
21:49 PilzAdam       Nemin, the pos table needs x, y and z as indexes
21:50 Nemin          so like pos[x]?
21:50 PilzAdam       {x = pos.x, y = pos.y+1, z = pos.z}
21:51 Nemin          Oh wow, this is awkward... Thanks for your help
21:51 v32itas        but default sounds are terrible, we have a DJ in our communty maybe he would be able to help somehow I have no idea how such sounds are made
21:53 PilzAdam       v32itas, Ingar is currently working on new sounds
21:56 v32itas        I'm more into system administration, but if minecraft would have been opensource in 2009 I might have some java learned by now and we have 2 guys interested in game developement I'm thinking about concentrating all that so we might help with something
22:00 luizrpgluiz    v32itas: well, you can help put and test new functions for the minetest provided it has the approval of the project's key developers.
22:06 BBmine         hi
22:06 luizrpgluiz    BBmine: hi :)
22:06 reber          hi all
22:07 luizrpgluiz    reber: hi
22:07 BBmine         how does one start 2 servers on the same computer at the same time?
22:08 PilzAdam       BBmine, just start 2 server instances
22:08 est31          BBmine, use different config files, and set different ports
22:08 PilzAdam       make sure they have different ports and worlds
22:08 BBmine         I tried to change the port of one world, but it changed the other too.
22:09 PilzAdam       use separate config files
22:10 PilzAdam       and pass them to the different instances via the --config parameter
22:19 MinetestBot    02[git] 04est31 -> 03minetest/minetest: Environment: Time of day fixes and add serverside getter 13ca8e56c http://git.io/vWSab (152015-10-27T23:19:17+01:00)
22:28 apienk         hello everyone
22:28 apienk         sfan5?
22:35 BBmine         PilzAdam: Thanks for the help. It worked all right.
22:48 reber          wich are the ports i need to open to play minetest ?
22:49 VanessaE       in a singleplayer/local game, nothing
22:49 shadowzone     Hey, VanessaE
22:49 VanessaE       when playing on a server, 30000 and higher
22:49 VanessaE       UDP and TCP
22:49 VanessaE       hi
22:49 est31          TCP is needed for NSA spying
22:49 VanessaE       heh'
22:49 est31          oh no I violated the gag order
22:50 * est31        hides
22:51 reber          mmm ... that's all ?
22:51 reber          i have a weird stufff happening
22:52 shadowzone     huh?
22:52 reber          very weird indeed
22:52 Gael-de-Sailly what happens ?
22:52 reber          connection timeout
22:53 Gael-de-Sailly on singleplayer ???
22:53 reber          heh no ... :D
22:53 Gael-de-Sailly ok
22:53 reber          course not
22:53 Gael-de-Sailly as client or server ?
22:54 reber          timeout on the client of course. what else ?
22:54 Gael-de-Sailly the server may not be responding
22:54 Gael-de-Sailly or, wrong address