Time Nick Message 00:07 MinetestBot 02[git] 04kahrl -> 03minetest/minetest: Don't serialize StaticObjectList with > 65535 objects 130cde032 http://git.io/vcqNl (152015-09-29T01:55:12+02:00) 00:14 Puka_ Looking to join server with technic and pipeworks pls... 00:30 MinetestBot 02[git] 04Rui914 -> 03minetest/minetest_game: Remove ugly def of xpanes 131f85f00 http://git.io/vcqjN (152015-09-29T01:26:02+01:00) 00:30 MinetestBot 02[git] 04LeMagnesium -> 03minetest/minetest_game: Add option to disable bed's night skip - Solve second point of #512 by adding a setting, `enable_bed_night_skip` , with default value of `true`. 13279b85f http://git.io/vcqjA (152015-09-29T01:25:40+01:00) 00:40 exio4 hai 00:41 exio4 how is everything going, wild minetesters 00:42 Puka_ need to find new server 01:04 nm0i Why 01:11 swift110-phone Hey 01:44 waressearcher2 http://jordach.net/Media/bfdmap.png those borders betwenn those dirt,snow,sand they are very precise, is it possible to add some noise ? 01:44 VanessaE turn on biome blend. 01:45 VanessaE (should already be on) 02:02 lordfingle Hi, I'd just like to announce to the community that I'm debugging lua mods very successfully using the Visual Studio 2013 IDE. I think that's worth noting in the wiki. I'm happy to do this myself if I can get an account? 02:05 Puka_ OldCoder? 02:05 OldCoder Puka_, Howdy 02:05 Puka_ Hi 02:05 OldCoder Switch to irc.oldcoder.org #minetest-oldcoder 02:05 OldCoder and receive the interact 02:07 OldCoder Puka_, can you read me there? 02:07 VanessaE Puka_: I put the server back up. 02:13 OldCoder VanessaE, Hi 02:13 OldCoder VanessaE, I'm running low on disk space but if you do shut down I hate to see worlds die 02:13 OldCoder Talk to me about transfer if it comes to this. But maybe just make your rules stricter. 02:13 VanessaE well I put them back online. seems people wanted them 02:13 OldCoder Start booting out troublemakers. 02:13 VanessaE it's not a rules thing. 02:13 OldCoder No? 02:13 OldCoder What was the issue? 02:14 VanessaE server/engine bugs pissing me off. 02:14 OldCoder Hm 02:14 OldCoder can't argue with that 02:14 OldCoder Proller would see "Join the Dark Side!" 02:14 OldCoder :D 02:14 OldCoder say * 02:14 OldCoder he promises to be nicer in the future BTW 02:14 OldCoder and does have a sense of humor 02:14 VanessaE though four of the servers are just so little-users who cares if they go offline 02:15 OldCoder Any major buildings? 02:15 VanessaE used* 02:15 VanessaE not really, n o 02:15 OldCoder I could take the urban centers and merge them into one of my worlds 02:15 OldCoder Hm; so those *are* wasted? 02:15 OldCoder But you have a few metropolises? 02:15 OldCoder in other worlds 02:15 VanessaE sorta. 02:16 OldCoder proller would be quite happy to have you :-) But I hope to get Freeminer and MT merged again 02:16 VanessaE there are spread-out "cities" on some of them, yes 02:16 OldCoder Hm; let me copy them sometime 02:16 OldCoder Works should not die 02:16 OldCoder So, some bugs got aggravating 02:16 OldCoder And let me guess 02:16 OldCoder Core devs were not responsive? 02:16 OldCoder Otherwise you'd not be p*ssed 02:18 VanessaE kahrl pushed a patch that'll help some, thankfully, but generally not as responsive as they should be, quite frankly. 02:18 OldCoder Yep 02:18 OldCoder Pressure will help 02:18 OldCoder Make it clear you won't rule out 02:18 OldCoder Possibly considering moving to Freeminer 02:19 OldCoder Competition is a good thing 02:19 OldCoder If you and I both did... Heh... what would happen to the server list? 02:19 OldCoder VanessaE, what % of the list do we hold jointly now? 02:20 VanessaE not suree 02:20 OldCoder And I have at least 6 more worlds to bring back 02:20 VanessaE maybe a quarter 02:20 OldCoder A big % 02:20 OldCoder Just that? 02:20 OldCoder Of the large and interesting worlds? 02:20 OldCoder % is higher 02:20 VanessaE you have 13 "minetest.org" worlds 02:20 OldCoder Yep 02:20 VanessaE I have 6 or 7 02:20 OldCoder 20 when all are back 02:20 OldCoder 27 / 120 02:20 VanessaE so that's 20 out of 114 02:20 OldCoder Yep 02:21 OldCoder Small %. But high quality %. Correct? 02:21 VanessaE I'd like to think so 02:21 OldCoder Yep 02:21 OldCoder Maybe things will feel better tomorrow 02:21 OldCoder Anyway wb to your worlds 02:22 VanessaE thanks. they were only down for 4 hours though. 02:30 comradmax does anyone run a server in AWS, and can a micro handle it? 02:32 lordfingle I have successfully run a minecraft on a AWS micro instance, and I have so far found that minetest has lower resource requirements. Should be fine. 02:33 comradmax i might try that sometime 02:37 lordfingle If you want to experiment you can make it even cheaper by using a "spot instance" type - In reality these are rarely reset and quite fine for multiplayer sessions. 02:39 comradmax i was thinking of riding the free 1st year of micro, and open new accounts with new emails as time goes by 02:39 lordfingle Sounds like a plan initially, but I think you need to provide credit card details. 02:40 comradmax micro is free for first year. and it's $16/mo when it's not free, and running 24/7 02:41 cg_ https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/3211 02:41 EUGD anybody want to rap about VAEs? 02:43 EUGD hardcoded numbers == VERY NO 02:43 EUGD use MAX_MAP_GENERATION_LIMIT and/or map_generation_limit and/or (hopefully coming soon) map_generation_extent constants/settings 02:44 lordfingle @comrademax - MS Azure offer $260 credit, which equals about a year of micro I think also 02:44 OldCoder Azure 02:44 OldCoder the horror 02:44 OldCoder the horror 02:44 OldCoder O_O 02:44 OldCoder No; make it stop 02:44 * OldCoder braces himself against the nightmare of Azure 02:44 OldCoder lordfingle, comradmax ^ 02:44 OldCoder Seriously, run like Hell from Azure 02:45 OldCoder Azure one cannot endure 02:45 OldCoder Azure is horror pure 02:45 OldCoder Anzure horror pure can't endure 02:45 OldCoder Run away fast 02:45 OldCoder 02:45 lordfingle Can you do a poem on AWS as well? 02:45 comradmax i was a member of the team at MS that worked on an early version of SharePoint in Azure.......... 02:46 OldCoder AWS is the very bes' :P 02:46 OldCoder comradmax, what was it like? 02:46 OldCoder AWS passes the tes' 02:46 OldCoder With AWS one should not mes' 02:46 * OldCoder loves AWS he does confess 02:46 OldCoder 02:47 * OldCoder naps 02:47 OldCoder Zzz 02:47 comradmax Azure had major issues, like if a highscool student who does not know anything tries to set up a massive SAN 02:47 OldCoder Oyes 02:47 OldCoder But the best parts came later 02:47 OldCoder And made people into Azure hater 02:47 OldCoder Bugs turned up 02:47 OldCoder Went into the queue 02:48 OldCoder And were still there after 2 or 3 years 02:48 OldCoder Once 02:48 OldCoder Just once 02:48 comradmax so our binary indices from SP would once in a while revert to a random state for no reason 02:48 OldCoder One random solution worked for somebody 02:48 OldCoder For *3 years* 02:48 OldCoder Azure forum people repeated that solution 02:48 OldCoder Even though it never worked again 02:48 OldCoder MS never fixed the bug 02:48 OldCoder Best of all 02:48 OldCoder You could lose access to disks 02:48 OldCoder And have no way to delete them 02:48 OldCoder But get billed every month for them 02:49 comradmax dont use SAN, dont use SP, do not use MS stack. Azure itself, i heard from ppl that stayed at MS, is better, but it's a lie. 02:49 OldCoder And since there was no support 02:49 OldCoder This was treated as a technical issue 02:49 OldCoder So you'd need to pay $500 02:49 OldCoder for the right not to pay 02:49 OldCoder for a disk you were not using 02:49 OldCoder Oh, and Firefox just had blank screens on the control panel 02:49 OldCoder That was great :P 02:50 OldCoder Oh even better 02:50 OldCoder Try to find in the fine print 02:50 EUGD https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/3199 02:50 OldCoder The part that says no static IP address 02:50 OldCoder If you ask sales people they will say there is a static IP 02:50 OldCoder There is not 02:50 OldCoder 02:50 comradmax it should have been called MyCloud 02:50 * OldCoder definitely naps 02:50 * OldCoder dreams of a vague horror 02:50 OldCoder azzure 02:51 Xenoth Cthulhuian. 02:51 comradmax Azure Coast in Morrowind? 02:51 Xenoth It's the only word for it. 02:51 comradmax no, that was Azura's 02:51 EUGD *Bitch-Whore's 02:52 EUGD \Vehk 02:52 comradmax is there a mod that converts MT into Morrowind? 02:52 comradmax jk 02:52 EUGD my dream 02:52 EUGD first need voxel subdivision and VAEs 02:52 EUGD then you could theoretically use MT as engine for anything 02:53 EUGD especially open-source projects like (open)morrowind 03:13 lordfingle OldCoder, yours is a sorry tale 03:13 lordfingle Of the way Azure in it's way did fail 03:13 Juraka Voxel era will be cool 03:13 Juraka is cool* 03:14 lordfingle I can see why it made you sad 03:14 lordfingle And why you might think it's so bad 03:14 lordfingle But I too have an AWS tale, 03:14 lordfingle To bill of things that did also fail 03:15 lordfingle Of charges I too had my fill 03:15 lordfingle The moral here with either is to read the bill 03:16 waressearcher2 read the bill and close the gates 03:56 swift110-phone Hey guys 03:59 waressearcher2 swift110-phone: why you always like that ? 04:03 swift110-phone Whats wrong with greeting people 04:09 OldCoder rr 04:18 waressearcher2 swift110-phone: its like 10 times a day you go and come and say "hi" 04:24 zat this is what Minetest is missing: http://robocraftgame.com 04:25 swift110-phone Again whats wrong with that 04:25 swift110-phone U could simply greet me back rather than make an issue of it 04:25 zat hey WillMoogle 04:25 zat $#&%$$$%#*&*@%%@# 04:26 zat damn autocomplete 04:26 zat I meant, hi swift110-phone 04:33 * OldCoder suggests compromise: Hi several times a day OK every hour no 04:33 OldCoder And hi swift110-phone 04:35 DFeniks how to enable minimap? 04:35 EUGD F9 04:36 EUGD F9 again cycles through zoom levels (including super neat underground mode), Shift-F9 changes the display to a fixed (rather than rotating) square map with a rotating pointer to represent player 04:37 DFeniks thanks 04:42 DFeniks i only wish i could map it to other key 04:47 comradmax are gold and bronze armor pieces exactly the same, just diff colors? 04:48 comradmax im using 3d_armor mod 05:05 voltagex so I have a Minecraft mod that exposes a webserver to control Minecraft via REST. Could I use JNI to support Minetest as well? 05:09 VanessaE doubt it, minetest is C++ and Lua. 05:09 VanessaE but we have irc/irc_commands mods for that purpose 05:18 waressearcher2 what "irc" in that case stands for ? Internet Relay Chat ? 05:25 voltagex VanessaE: I'd be interested in creating an HTTP server mod. The more I look at the state of minecraft, the more my mod is doomed. THere's one guy left doing work on mods for Minecraft (lexmanos) 08:23 JamesTait Good morning all; happy Tuesday, and happy World Heart Day! 😃 <3 09:01 OldCoder Hi 09:01 OldCoder anybody awake? 09:02 Krock nah 09:02 Krock hello :) 09:06 Telesight Hello all, Does minetest work multi threading? 09:06 everamzah I hear it does. 09:08 VanessaE it sorta does. 09:08 VanessaE but where it counts most (rendering, mapgen) it unfortunately does not, yet. 09:09 Telesight hmm, I see my top is 25% although it can handle 4 threads ... 09:09 everamzah if you push it, you'll see the other 3 move. i think num_emerge_threads can affect this. 09:10 everamzah i also believe i heard that that setting/feature requires root? but i have no clue. 09:10 Krock oh yes.. it would be great to have the mapblock loading in a seperate thread 09:10 VanessaE it does not. 09:10 Telesight That means only 1 thread is used or I have a lot to go ;-) 09:12 everamzah http://i.imgur.com/mqsDhOH.png 09:15 Telesight Ok I will look into minetest.conf ... 10:45 Telesight As far as I can see with num_emerge_threads = 4 in minetest.conf there is only 25% used of 4CPU's so this settings does no difference on the threads used. 10:46 VanessaE "emerge" refers to map generation 10:46 VanessaE so that setting will only improve the mapgen somewhat, and only if there isn't any Lua involved (register_ongenerated callbacks) 10:47 Telesight ok 12:37 Megaf Hi 12:37 Megaf Good afternoon 12:37 Megaf Why isn't morning called beforenoon? 12:38 Megaf or maybe it should be called afternight? 12:38 Megaf so we should have night, afternight, noon and afternoon 12:39 Telesight We have beforenoon ;-) 12:39 Telesight and afternoon ... 12:40 Megaf At least in Portuguese we call nights, night, not evening, afternoons will call "late", morning we call "day", noon we call midday, hm, doesnt make too much sense either, does it? 12:40 Telesight No every country it's own ... 12:41 Telesight like 2 PM .... 12:41 Telesight Why not 14.00 h ? 12:41 Megaf 2 PM is PM only in USA, it's the exeption 12:41 Megaf it 14:00 on the whole world 12:41 Megaf but USA 12:42 Megaf The are the only ones that call themselves by the continent they live (Americans) and one of the few that use the bloody Imperial units 12:43 Megaf and they are the only ones that play football with they hands and throw the balls with hands, instead of kicking the ball with they feet 12:43 Telesight THey are doing it all wrong ;-) 12:44 Megaf (I'm not sure how things are in Canada) 12:44 kahrl I hate how most of the things in Orwell's 1984 have become common except this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/24-hour_analog_dial 12:46 Megaf well, some software (widgets and stuff) analog clocks give you the option to have the 24 hour version 12:47 Megaf Telesight: are you usng Pidgin/Empathy? 12:47 Telesight Pidgin 12:48 Megaf I see, you could try Quassel, is KDE based but it is quite good 12:48 Megaf s/KDE/Qt 12:48 Telesight Why you ask? 12:50 Megaf I sent some CTCP requests to your IRC Client, asking it about your timezone and version and it failed to reply 12:50 Telesight I am not tracable ;-) 12:51 everamzah double plus good 12:52 Telesight ? 12:53 everamzah nineteen eighty-four is the only fiction book i've ever read 12:53 everamzah double plus good 12:54 Telesight Ah. 12:54 * Megaf will trace Telesight 12:54 Telesight haha 12:54 Telesight You can ask directly ... 12:55 Megaf I know you are in the land of the Nether 12:55 Megaf :P 12:55 Megaf maybe not 12:55 Telesight Yes all glowing blocks here ... 12:56 Megaf .nl is from where? 12:56 Megaf yep, Netherlands 12:56 zat lol the nether, I always say that. 12:56 zat Though in Spanish we call it basically Holland. 12:56 Telesight I am behind a portal ... 12:56 zat I don't know why... 12:57 Telesight We have north-holland and south-holland as provinces ... 12:57 Megaf hm, the definition of nether is "Lower in position". That's very interesting and now everything makes sense, because Netherlands in Portuguese is something like, "Lower Countries" 12:57 Telesight The country Holland does not exists 12:58 Megaf And makes sense, because a big part of the land there is under the sea line 12:58 Telesight It is more or less a tradename from the past ... 12:59 Megaf Telesight: so, In Brazil we now a days call it "Holanda", not that Holanda is Holland, is just Netherlands in Brazilian Portuguese 12:59 Megaf I think 12:59 Megaf Interesting stuff 13:00 Telesight We do not call Espana, catalonia ... (although it is close nowadays ;-) 13:00 kahrl Clearly "Holland" comes from hell-lands = nether-lands 13:01 Telesight Hol is Hollow 13:02 Telesight We call it Nederland, neder is nether... 13:02 Telesight So yesit al points that it is below sea level. 13:03 Telesight We have a saying: God created the world, the Dutch created the Netherlands ... 13:04 Megaf heh 13:05 Megaf I've been to Amsterdam once, and went to a little town, I don't remember how it is called now but it was pretty nice, narrow roads for pedestrians only 13:05 Megaf and I could see come old windmills on the landscape 13:06 Megaf I walked on some of the several, then frozen, canals 13:07 Telesight Yes the windmills were used for pumping water outside the land ... 13:09 Megaf I know :) The should call them Wind Powered Water Pumps 13:09 Megaf or WPWP for short 13:09 Megaf or 2WP 13:10 Megaf or2W2P maybe 13:10 Megaf you get the idea 13:13 Telesight Are they in Minetest ? 13:15 Megaf well, I have windmills on my server 13:17 Telesight With pumping capicity? 13:17 Telesight a 13:19 Megaf oh, nope, 13:19 Telesight So they are only replacing air ;-) 13:19 Telesight or air is replacing the wheel ... 14:49 zat Megaf, Telesight: a big part of the land there is under the sea line???????? 14:50 zat so they can be flooded 14:51 comradmax amsterdam? 14:51 zat The lands of nether. 14:51 comradmax amsterdam is under sea level? but they have canals, woudlnt that mean it's at sea lvl 14:52 Telesight Yes 2/3 is under sealevel ... 14:52 zat not neccesarily, I guess 14:52 est31 the canals could be pumped up 14:53 comradmax with widmills? 14:53 zat in Spanish we also say lower countries, but not only to the Netherlands. 14:53 zat to all those that have the same flag with a different palette. 14:54 zat that cross... you know... 14:54 comradmax it good that the dutch can do crazy shit like that. pumping water out... 14:55 zat advanced countries can do about anything 14:55 zat still waiting for Japanese mechas though.... 14:55 comradmax Japanese are all robots, but not all of them konw it yet 14:56 zat I think they are just from the future 14:56 zat if we want to know what the future is like, look to Japan. 14:57 dzho or haiti 14:57 zat whan can you look for there 15:00 comradmax Japanese engineers invented a police robot, tested it in Tokyo, and it stopped 3 robberies in the first hour alone. Then they send it to NYC, in just 1hr, the robot stopped 10 robberies and 2 homicides. So they then sent it to Moskow, and in 5 minutes someone stole the robot. 15:00 est31 haha 15:00 est31 like that other moscow joke 15:01 zat replace Moscow with Chile, works the same. 15:01 est31 russian emmigrant comes back to moscow to visit his family 15:01 est31 stands at airport, puts down his case, at the left and right side, then says "moscow, I dont recognize you anymore" 15:02 est31 then he looks to his left, and right, sees the cases were stolen "oh, now I do" 15:02 comradmax :) 15:03 zat wat 15:03 zat brb I go to play Robocraft 15:05 comradmax obligatory at this point, www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQAKRw6mToA 16:10 Telesight Hello all, I got a server crash see for debug info: http://pastebin.com/83iLRuFh anybody an idea? 16:13 est31 Telesight, what minetest version are you running 16:13 est31 also, can you share the map with us 16:13 Telesight 0.4.13 16:14 est31 and, can you execute it in a debugger, to give us a stack trace? 16:17 Telesight How to do the debugger? 16:17 est31 how do you execute minetest? over console? 16:17 est31 you build minetest yourself, dont you? 16:18 est31 which are the commands you use for building minetest 16:18 Telesight In a terminal 16:18 est31 yes 16:18 Telesight sudo systemctl start minetest.service 16:19 est31 can you rebuild minetest as debug 16:19 est31 which distro are you on 16:19 Telesight Ubuntu 15.04 16:20 est31 have you set up this systemd service yourself 16:20 Telesight it is on a server 16:20 Telesight yes 16:20 est31 can you recompile it as debug 16:21 est31 ccmake -DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=Debug 16:23 est31 cmake* 16:26 Telesight Sorry i was called away ;-) 16:26 Telesight Minetest is running on a server 16:26 Telesight in a container 16:28 est31 I guess you know how to rebuild it with custom cmake config? 16:29 Telesight No normally I install it from packages 16:30 Telesight I am not a developer ;-) 16:31 est31 but this time you compiled it yourself 16:31 est31 ? 16:32 Telesight Yes but it took some research how to do it ... 16:32 est31 can you recall how you did it 16:33 Telesight I always make written tutorials how I do things ;-) 16:34 est31 nice, perhaps you want to write a tutorial "how to build development version of minetest and run it inside gdb??" 16:34 est31 tutorials are a good idea though 16:35 Telesight What is gdb? 16:37 est31 http://www.gnu.org/software/gdb/ 16:37 est31 its a tool to get good debug information 16:37 est31 https://sourceware.org/gdb/onlinedocs/gdb/Backtrace.html 16:37 est31 1. compile minetest as debug, with cmake -DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=Debug 16:37 est31 2. run gdb bin/minetest 16:38 est31 3. type "r" to start minetest 16:38 est31 4. create the crash 16:38 est31 5. type "bt" to get a backtrace 16:38 est31 6. send us the backtrace 16:39 Fixer_aka_cluele who waaants sooome? -> https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=13328 16:41 Telesight I did : sudo cmake . -DBUILD_CLIENT=0 -DBUILD_SERVER=1 16:41 Telesight sudo make -j$(nproc) 16:42 Telesight But now I must do: sudo cmake -DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=Debug 16:42 swift110-phone I wont say hello to everyone today 16:43 swift110-phone But I will say thanks to the folks that have made minetest 16:43 est31 Telesight, do the -DBUILD_CLIENT=0 -DBUILD_SERVER=1 as well 17:02 Calinou hi 17:05 est31 hi Calinou 17:14 Telesight est31 this is my backtrace: http://pastebin.com/WPN7Hdkk 17:35 Telesight est31 Do you have any idea? 17:36 est31 Telesight, cant do anything with that backtrace 17:36 est31 its a fake backtrace 17:36 est31 failed project 17:36 est31 rebuild in debug and start with gdb 17:36 Telesight I did that 17:37 est31 you have started with gdb 17:37 est31 but you havent rebuilt in debug 17:37 est31 did you do make after cmake? 17:38 est31 that has to be done 17:38 est31 cmake doesnt build it only makes build configuration 17:38 Telesight Moment will check it ... 17:44 comradmax aws micro server is running, it's the one at the bottom of the public list, called "Ultimate Freedom" 17:48 Telesight est31 I have tried again: http://pastebin.com/a9qUAmMF 17:49 est31 Telesight, interesting 17:49 est31 do you have any special mods? 17:49 est31 now the backtrace works 17:49 est31 with line numbers 17:50 Telesight I have canyon as "demanding" mod 17:51 est31 can you create a bug report on the tracker 17:51 est31 https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues 17:52 Telesight I can try ... 17:55 Fixer_aka_cluele OldCoder, https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=1705&start=4975#p192982 possible grief detected, everyone can interact on anything, spawn below was griefed somewhat, i've added temporary blocks 18:03 comradmax random stone square just floating in the sky, possible this is autogenerated? http://www.pasteall.org/pic/93624 18:04 est31 paramat knows of the bug 18:04 est31 https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/2926 18:05 comradmax looks super cool where it is 18:09 cg_ who thinks /msg should be saved i you are offline so you get them when you get back? 18:19 Telesight est31 I have created an bug report ... 18:22 Krock cg_, tat's what the inbox mod is used for 18:22 comradmax umm, does anyone know if Ethereal removes protection stones and tnt? 18:22 cg_ pfft too many /cmds for noods 18:22 cg_ noobs* 18:22 cg_ i use the same /msg :) makes it so much nicer 18:27 cg_ Krock, >>> https://github.com/pinkysnowman/server_tools 18:28 Krock Looks good 18:29 cg_ :D thanks, its been a fun project. im trying to make one mod that will do most things server owners need 18:29 Hisforever /clear 18:29 eugd my thing should be good to go 18:30 eugd https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/3199 18:30 Hisforever Hi I'm tryong to level a piece of land using //p set, Gow do I clear the blocks of sand? 18:31 Hisforever gow = how 18:31 cg_ only sand or everything? 18:32 Hisforever everytthing 18:32 cg_ select your area //p set 18:32 cg_ then //s air 18:32 Hisforever wow can't type today lol 18:32 Hisforever ty CG_ 18:32 cg_ /s is short for //set so if //s doesnt say its a valid cmd do //s 18:33 cg_ //s* 18:33 cg_ and yw 18:52 comradmax i made a new world, no mods, still not protector block. here is a screenshot http://www.pasteall.org/pic/93625 18:54 comradmax could i have done something? when go to other servers, i can make protectors 18:59 comradmax is the protector block a mod in itself? 18:59 est31 yes 18:59 comradmax so i dont have it because i just didnt install it 19:00 cg_ anyone think a delayed shutdown would be a good idea? 19:00 est31 eg here https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=9376 19:00 comradmax thx 19:09 comradmax problem solved! 19:09 eugd i never liked the way protector mod works 19:10 Krock and I never liked the crafting guide nodes, still, some people like it 19:11 eugd just saying it seems to me like something the engine should provide better support for 19:11 eugd right now the mod just tracks and replaces after break, right? 19:11 est31 no 19:11 est31 its client prediction getting in the way 19:12 eugd ah 19:21 comradmax i see that there is a 'protected chest', i've only seen/used locked chests before. what's the diff? protected chest is like the locked one, but i can add other ppl to the list of users who can open it? 19:21 Krock Yes,maybe it depends on the area protection 19:22 comradmax cool 19:28 comradmax now, tnt, when i go to the same world in singleplayer, i can make gunpowder and tnt, but in my server, with the same world.mt file, there is no tnt. why would this be? i didnt have to add the tnt mod, or enable it... 19:29 comradmax found a setting in the .conf :) 20:07 MinetestBot 02[git] 04LeMagnesium -> 03minetest/minetest_game: Adding bones' drop feature Before, when you died, you got to punch you bones to get back your stuff, the bones block was not dropped. However, a lot of people wants to use them for decorations/building, and have to install a dedicated mod since 0.4.10-release. With this commit, a bones block containing an inventory is dropped/added to inventory (if enough room) when the 20:07 MinetestBot 02[git] 04codeandfix -> 03minetest/minetest_game: Update api.lua 13ff0973f http://git.io/vcGUz (152015-09-29T21:01:20+01:00) 20:07 * ElectronLibre should not write such long commit descriptions 20:08 Calinou use multi-line commit 20:09 Calinou just write something like this https://up1.ca/#LSCHcZb3yh7qUREfTaTBJQ 20:09 ElectronLibre I assumed a simple git commit was multiline; how are you supposed to do a multi-line commit? 20:09 Calinou in "git commit" 20:09 Calinou (don't use -m, it makes for silly oneliners) 20:09 ElectronLibre I don't use -m. 20:10 ElectronLibre Unless I'm in a hurry to push a bugfix. 20:10 nrzkt ElectronLibre: type enter before finishing your quote. 20:10 ElectronLibre Oh, I see what is wrong. 20:10 est31 and the second line should be empty 20:10 ElectronLibre I put a space before the first hyphen. 20:10 est31 common mistake 20:11 ElectronLibre Markdown mistake. Okay, so now I know how to do it properly. 20:31 Puka_ Miner? 21:08 MinetestBot 02[git] 04est31 -> 03minetest/minetest: Some map border related fixes 132a7d01b http://git.io/vcG4I (152015-09-29T23:06:15+02:00) 21:44 comradmax that micro running MT server :) http://www.pasteall.org/pic/show.php?id=93633 22:53 Qwertie Hi 22:54 Qwertie Im getting this error running mine test on ubuntu 15.05 http://pastebin.com/SSXTtbU1 22:56 est31 can you restart your computer and try again 22:56 Qwertie Alright. I do that in a bit and try again 22:59 waressearcher2 "can you restart your computer and try again", isn't it a weindows support pharase ? 23:00 est31 no 23:00 est31 its general IT support phrase 23:01 waressearcher2 est31: but I never heard that for troubleshooting linux problems 23:01 est31 well, sometimes its neccessary 23:02 est31 I know of at least one bug where the only way to fix is to restart linux 23:02 waressearcher2 even kernel modules can be unloaded and loaded again without reboot 23:03 est31 lots of stuff can 23:03 est31 but linux is shit on the gfx side 23:07 Qwertie Well. Restarting actually did work.. 23:11 waressearcher2 seem linux becomes more like windows nowadays 23:11 waressearcher2 or just ubuntu 23:12 swift110 how do i play with others in minetest 23:19 comradmax swift110, you log into one of the many servers that are up and running 23:20 swift110 comradmax: ok that sounds cool you got links 23:21 comradmax you would start Minetest and then see the list right there 23:21 comradmax under Client tab