Time  Nick            Message
00:02 twoelk          well trying to rebuild something in a virtual world already forces people to have a more in depth look at things
00:02 twoelk          you have to understand things to be able to recreate them
00:02 DynamicMetaFlow Yeah, im thinking of how i can translate physical measurements from real life to minetest
00:03 DynamicMetaFlow I have some ideas and been searching the forums
00:03 DynamicMetaFlow just need to let information sink in and plan things
00:03 DynamicMetaFlow I have at least two-three weeks to figure something out
00:03 twoelk          oops? srp? what client version are you using?
00:03 DynamicMetaFlow let me cehck
00:04 DynamicMetaFlow I'm using arch linux so i just grabbed it from the user repository
00:04 twoelk          the server runs on 0.4.13
00:04 DynamicMetaFlow same version
00:04 DynamicMetaFlow minetest 0.4.13-2
00:05 twoelk          might be someone else then that triggered that
00:05 DynamicMetaFlow probably was me
00:05 DynamicMetaFlow I can't connect lol
00:05 DynamicMetaFlow :/
00:06 twoelk          try a different name-password set
00:07 twoelk          oh wait I saw you for a sec
00:08 DynamicMetaFlow i just quit it because it was taking time
00:08 * twoelk        wonders whether his unallowed names rules are too strict
00:09 DynamicMetaFlow ill try another name
00:09 twoelk          well once you have the media cache it should go faster
00:09 DynamicMetaFlow your names are strict
00:09 DynamicMetaFlow ...
00:09 DynamicMetaFlow lol
00:09 DynamicMetaFlow im in as chaos
00:11 DynamicMetaFlow so how do i talk in game?
00:11 twoelk          The Angkor Wat thread has some interesting adventures in the complex dimensions correctly world of trying to translate the
00:11 twoelk          type t
00:11 DynamicMetaFlow thank you
00:48 hmmmm           who is 'cg'?
00:49 hmmmm           I assume it's from this channel because I don't really talk much anywhere else
00:49 VanessaE        that's crazyginger72.
00:49 hmmmm           ohhhh
00:49 hmmmm           that nutjob who was yelling at me for some inane reason a couple months back
00:49 hmmmm           i vaguely remember that
00:50 * VanessaE      shrugs
00:50 hmmmm           she wanted to apologize or something
00:50 hmmmm           shrug.
01:26 blert2112       Display *x11display = XOpenDisplay(current_display);
01:27 blert2112       oopz
01:28 blert2112       Building this in Windows again is driving me nuts!
02:13 bkeys           Hello, is anyone willing to help me forward the 30000 port on my server? I cannot quite figure out how to do it
02:15 est31           bkeys, you have to forward the 30000 udp port
02:15 est31           not tcp
02:15 est31           thats usually the point :)
02:15 est31           *problem
02:15 bkeys           I am not exactly a network guru but I certainly know my way around the bash shell
02:15 bkeys           Could you give me some commands perhaps?
02:16 est31           dunno, depends on your distro
02:16 est31           you even havent told me your OS
02:16 bkeys           My server is running CentOS 6
02:16 est31           there are unix ways to do it, but if you have e.g. NetworkManager you should use that
02:17 bkeys           Let me see if I can install it; it has no GUI whatsoever but I do not believe that will be a problem
02:17 bkeys           yum install NetworkManager?
02:17 est31           so what's precisely the problem? usually if you run a service on your server, its public to the internet
02:17 est31           nono dont install it just because of minetest
02:18 VanessaE        est31: I get the feeling he's running his minetestserver instance on a home PC
02:18 bkeys           It being based on red hat linux it probably has it installed; let me check
02:18 est31           you seem to have some sort of a custom setup, and NetworkManager will likely break it
02:18 bkeys           I am running it on a virtual private server, the server that is
02:18 est31           (custom setup for a dedicated server, that is)
02:18 VanessaE        ah
02:19 bkeys           Since I did not have X installed I did compile the minetestserver from source; it works I just do not see it on the list of public servers
02:21 bkeys           Figures I do not have NetworkManager installed
02:21 est31           bkeys what's your server ip?
02:22 bkeys           It being a VPS it is honestly kind of iffy (the output I get from ifconfig is weird)
02:22 bkeys           Let me run it and look
02:22 bkeys           http://pastebin.com/1U8wahZU
02:23 bkeys           Here is the output of ifconfig
02:24 est31           !up 192.184.82.27
02:24 MinetestBot     192.184.82.27:30000 seems to be down
02:25 bkeys           Well I use this as a web server as well so I know it is connected to the internet
02:32 est31           http seems to work
02:33 est31           perhaps the provider blocks udp?
02:36 blert2112       who opened port 80 for you? You need to forward the port from the router to the server
02:36 est31           bkeys, can you do netcat -luv 300001 on the server?
02:37 est31           it should still run, then I can try connecting from it from my machine
02:37 bkeys           what package do I need to install to have netcat?
02:37 est31           usually its there
02:37 est31           do you have nc?
02:37 bkeys           Yes
02:38 est31           okay then use nc instead of netcat
02:38 est31           same tool different name
02:38 est31           and different implementation, but that shouldnt matter
02:38 bkeys           It is just hanging
02:38 est31           thats ok
02:38 est31           does it print "Listening" something?
02:39 bkeys           It has printed nothing as of now
02:39 est31           hrmm
02:40 est31           can you ctrl+c then take a valid port number, 3000
02:40 est31           err
02:40 est31           30001
02:40 est31           that should be valid
02:40 bkeys           nc -luv 30001
02:40 bkeys           Is just hanging
02:40 est31           okay
02:41 est31           now I try to connect
02:41 est31           does it show something?
02:41 bkeys           Should I run the server binary?
02:41 est31           no
02:41 est31           this is just to test whether the server has udp connection to the internet
02:41 est31           but seems it hasnt
02:42 bkeys           Well I still have not gotten any output
02:42 est31           okay then abort
02:42 est31           do you have to open ports somehow?
02:42 est31           for the http service?
02:43 bkeys           Certainly the ports must be open for whatever http is using because the website is up
02:43 est31           if not, then best is you contact your VPS provider and ask them about running UDP servers, and that you want port 30000 for udp
02:43 blert2112       can you access your router/firewall?
02:44 bkeys           What command should I use to test that?
02:45 est31           on the client you do nc -vu 192.184.82.27 30001
02:45 est31           look here http://radarearth.com/content/using-netcat-udp-port-troubleshooting
02:46 bkeys           The command you told me to run simply hangs
02:46 bkeys           I am reading the document now
02:46 est31           the one with the "l" is a server command
02:47 est31           the other without the l and the server's ip is the client command
02:47 blert2112       Do you have a hardware router? Likely supplied to you by your ISP.
02:47 bkeys           We are talking about the link you sent, correct?
02:48 bkeys           I am running the server via Virtual Private Server, so I do not have physical access to the machine nor the router
02:48 est31           blert2112, this isnt a home servr but VPS
02:48 blert2112       Ah, duh. Forgive me
02:49 bkeys           So which command do I run on the client (which I imply is my laptop) and which one on my server?
02:50 est31           <est31> the one with the "l" is a server command
02:50 est31           <est31> the other without the l and the server's ip is the client command
02:51 bkeys           Yeah I am just trying to make sure I am running the correct command one moment let me do this
02:52 bkeys           I run this on the server
02:52 bkeys           nc -luv 30001
02:52 bkeys           And this on my client
02:52 bkeys           nc -vu 192.184.82.27 30001
02:54 bkeys           Can this be read?
02:55 bkeys           If so; I ran the commands asked and it says that a connection has been achieved
02:55 bkeys           The client does, but the server remains silent
02:57 est31           yea what counts is the server
02:57 est31           its clearly network fault
02:57 est31           contact your provider
02:57 bkeys           Yeah I just ran it without the server listening and got the same output
02:58 est31           (VPS provider)
02:58 bkeys           Alright; I will call them and get back to you guys at a future date. Thank you for the help thus far
02:58 bkeys           What do I ask them specifically? If I can forward UDP ports?
02:58 est31           rather open than forward
02:58 est31           just tell them you need access to UDP port 30000
02:59 bkeys           Is that all?
03:00 est31           yea
03:21 swift110-phone  Hey
03:29 cheapie         cheapie@tim:~/source/minetest$ minetestserver
03:29 cheapie         Segmentation fault
03:29 cheapie         Grr.
03:30 cheapie         It's been doing that ever since I upgraded some packages. One of them was Irrlicht, so I rebuilt MT, and well, it does that.
03:30 * cheapie       is collecting information
03:30 exio4           that's a known bug, if I remember correctly
03:31 cheapie         I don't know how much, if any, of this might be useful: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/12358387/
03:32 cheapie         FWIW, the official Debian package of MT segfaults too now.
03:33 cheapie         Huh, looks like it might be Irrlicht's fault.
04:29 est31           cheapie, what's your irrlicht version?
04:29 * cheapie       looks
04:29 est31           did debian people seriously update irrlicht?
04:29 cheapie         1.8.2
04:29 est31           well congrats then to the breaking version
04:30 cheapie         I also tried grabbing Irrlicht from its SVN thing and compiling it myself - same problem when MT was compiled with that and Debian's Irrlicht was not present.
04:32 est31           you run on unstable right?
04:32 cheapie         Yes.
04:33 est31           debian people seem to know about it as well https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=798694
04:34 cheapie         Well, I guess I'll just file this under "that's what I get for running sid" and hope it's fixed soon...
05:07 cheapie         est31: Yep, I downgraded Irrlicht to 1.8.1, and now it works.
05:07 cheapie         I'm going to hold it at that version now.
05:35 blert2112       can register_ore sheet type be flipped over without changing the code?
05:37 hmmmm           no
05:37 hmmmm           wait what do you mean by flipped over
05:38 blert2112       I mean totally flip over the sheet 180deg,so the current bottom will be the top and the top will be the bottom
05:39 hmmmm           there is no top or bottom, it's just a sheet
05:39 blert2112       ah, but there sort of is... one sec...
05:40 blert2112       take a look at the last four pics in this thread...
05:40 blert2112       https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=47&t=13206
05:41 blert2112       please
05:41 hmmmm           ohh
05:41 hmmmm           that's a bug, isn't it
05:42 hmmmm           the randomized vertical offsets are supposed to be relative to the center
05:42 blert2112       I believe it to be. IMO, it would be better if it was flipped over
05:43 hmmmm           alright
05:43 hmmmm           just to track it you should make an issue on github about this
05:43 blert2112       I kind of dig they way it looks though, the rough "bottom" with a smoothish "top"
05:44 hmmmm           so then make it a feature request where you ask for an adjustable offset for ore columns in the sheet ore type
05:45 hmmmm           you see in src/mg_ore.cpp:204-205
05:45 hmmmm           that needs to be either + or - height based on which you want
05:46 blert2112       yeah, I was going to "fix" it and recompile for my use here at home but Windows has gotten the better of me again
05:50 blert2112       thanks you
07:54 Krock           meow
07:56 VanessaE        hi.
07:58 nrzkt           burp
08:02 est31           lol
08:36 CWz             can someone tell me how to apply this patch ? https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=13215&p=190870#p190870
08:39 nrzkt           open an editor, find the right file, paste and compile.
09:00 waressearcher2  use "patch" ?
09:15 Krock           waressearcher2, you don't know what a patch is?
09:15 waressearcher2  I mean use programm "patch", that how you apply patches on software
09:15 Krock           oh
09:16 Krock           well, git does the same
09:16 waressearcher2  but I assume it will not work, but it could've been more convenient if it did
09:20 Krock           AHAAAHAHA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmpgbb6b3Wc
09:34 Calinou         https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=12851&p=190829#p190829
09:34 Calinou         best avatar
09:35 Krock           no, it needs pixeled coolness glasses
09:39 waressearcher2  can it increase fps if instead of textures one would use solid colors on blocks ?
09:40 est31           I doubt it
09:41 est31           you still would have to conduct the same calculations
09:41 waressearcher2  "fill with color" should be faster then "draw a texture"
09:41 est31           well yeah it doesnt have to be sent to the gfx card
09:41 est31           but the gfx card has to do the same calculations
09:41 Krock           waressearcher2, the difference is minimal - at least on a 16px texture pack
09:42 Krock           the world would be boring without textures :P
09:42 waressearcher2  by the way, why 16px textures ? I mean just because minecraft has 16px default textures ?
09:42 Krock           8 has too less details and 32 is already 4x more work for the graphics card
09:43 DusXMT          waressearcher2: It makes importing texture packs (which allow it, of course) over to minetest :)  Also, it's a power of two, and provides enough detail for everything to be clearly recognisable
09:43 DusXMT          s/to minetest/to minetest easier/
09:46 Krock           And non-power of two graphics look creepy on old graphic cards/builtin graphics
09:50 waressearcher2  how is that "creepy" ? messy ?
09:59 DusXMT          Krock: Do you have some screenshots/photos to share? I'm curious to see how it looks
10:37 Krock           DusXMT, http://imgur.com/8JqtQzJ
10:39 DusXMT          hehe :p
10:40 Krock           [off] my first (testing) image on my imgur acc.. http://imgur.com/5Bjrt
10:42 * DusXMT        now kinda wants to buy an old graphics card to play in awkward mode x3
10:43 Krock           DusXMT, If you want more of them.. I can't reproduce it anymore - switched the mainboard.
10:43 Krock           just get some RIVA TNT2 card :P
10:44 DusXMT          Krock: Did the sizes of the pixel columns change as you were changing your perspective?
10:44 Krock           afaik, no
10:44 DusXMT          awww :(
10:44 Krock           LOL
10:44 DusXMT          jelly-minetest
11:17 hoodedice       hello
11:18 twoelk          ollah
11:20 Krock           moin
11:20 twoelk          10 seconds after I fire up my server people try to join - do some clients start the public server list from the bottom up?
11:20 twoelk          most supply empty passwords so I presume some mobile clients
11:22 Krock           all server lists should be sorted the same way - as it's done on servers.minetest.net
11:22 twoelk          hm, one seems stuck in joining limbo
11:25 twoelk          pff - lot's of "Admin"s try to join :-D
11:26 Krock           no_guests ftw
11:26 Krock           (with the "Admin" acc added)
11:29 twoelk          my line must be bad just now, most people time out - if the names don't get rejected straight away
11:29 hoodedice       mayne, pointers tho
11:30 twoelk          ping = 1247
11:44 hoodedice       dot
12:10 nrzkt           !server AppleTree
12:10 MinetestBot     nrzkt: AppleTree - Survival & Build | minetest.unix-experience.fr | Clients: 18/50, 13/20 | Version: 0.4.13-dev / epixel | Ping: 10ms
12:39 Krock           epixel?
12:48 nrzkt           epixel, yes :p
12:54 everamzah       i usually reboot server machine after about 12 hours when i notice max_lag at about 5 or 6.   i let it go on overnight, and max_lag is 25, some new record for me i think
12:54 everamzah       can't help but think the server performance is degrading over time
12:59 everamzah       http://i.imgur.com/j1wjFiB.png
13:28 Krock           everamzah, font needs more smoothness
13:57 everamzah       mhm, prolly smaller, better settings maybe the alpha shadow
13:57 everamzah       i use the pixelbox tp/font on that ol' lappy
14:04 Krock           use Comic Sans MS ^^
14:14 everamzah       oh yeah?  you might have to direct me to it.
14:14 waressearcher2  can minetest run faster ? any work in that direction ?
14:14 waressearcher2  I mean more fps will not harm
14:14 everamzah       a smooth 60 would be nice, it happens here and there
14:14 waressearcher2  or it uses all speed irrlich can offer ?
14:18 est31           waressearcher2, well there is some movement into the direction of making it "faster"
14:19 est31           but usually thats for a sacrifice
14:19 est31           e.g. that it looks ugly now
14:21 nrzkt           mesa 11 is out :D oh yeah
14:45 rubenwardy      5 days until uni!
14:47 Calinou         waressearcher2, we use Irrlicht in terrible, abusive ways
14:50 waressearcher2  abusive ?
14:51 est31           yes
14:51 est31           but we are the only ones xD
14:51 waressearcher2  like ways it wasn't supposed to be used ?
14:51 est31           have you seen the packages on the arch manager that have irrlicht as  dependency?
14:51 est31           the list has one element :)
14:56 waressearcher2  minetest ?
15:20 nm0i            minetest !
15:22 everamzah       mind quad
15:22 nm0i            Any idea why 90% of peeps that log in into public server build dirt house, then log out?
15:22 waressearcher2  they don't give a wood about that game
15:23 Krock           because the area isn't protected
15:23 sfan5           probably people playing on tablets
15:23 sfan5           s/people/children/
15:23 waressearcher2  they test it, "das war mine test fur minetest"
15:24 DFeniks         im not sure , do people build shelter in minecraft to hide from monsters , maybe habit
15:24 Krock           waressearcher2->german_skills++;
15:24 waressearcher2  DFeniks: classical conditioning in place
15:24 waressearcher2  soon will be night, need a dirt house
15:24 DFeniks         or maybe because dirt is only thing you can dig without tools
15:25 Krock           Wouldn't it be more intelligent to build a mine into a hill instead of getting tons of dirt to protect from monsters? lol
15:26 nm0i            Any reliable way to make server 14+(18+)? (Any captcha mod that requires people to solve differential equation on login?)
15:26 DFeniks         i remember building small dirt and cobble house before log out on one of my first servers
15:26 waressearcher2  they afraid to dig into a cave filled with even more monsters
15:26 waressearcher2  nm0i: ask them questions from quest game "Larry"
15:27 nm0i            I think it is 30+ test.
15:27 Calinou         "sqrt(-1) = ?"
15:27 waressearcher2  "Runtime error (func=(main), adr=4): Square root of a negative number" ?
15:27 nm0i            Ban if answer is just "i"?
15:28 DFeniks         now ii usually just travel far to punch trees first , and then mine until i got everything i need , i might put chest somvhere too
15:28 waressearcher2  I think mobile version of minecraft needs longer first day, because its more challenging to survive your first day if you use touch screen
15:43 Jordach         hrm, had a nice little mod idea
15:44 nanepiwo        what?
15:44 Krock           yeah, what?
15:44 Jordach         ILD - Infinite Liquid Storage Device
15:45 Jordach         ILSD even
15:45 Krock           substr("ILSD", 1)
15:45 nanepiwo        so you can keep punching it with a bucket and itll never run out of lava/water?
15:45 Jordach         nanepiwo, more of a bucket storage, minus wasting iron on extra buckets
15:46 nanepiwo        cool.,.....
15:50 Jordach         i'm not sure if meshnodes support animated textures
15:51 Amaz            Jordach, they do.
15:51 Jordach         sweert
15:52 Amaz            https://github.com/VanessaE/homedecor_modpack/blob/master/homedecor/furniture_medieval.lua#L61-L86
15:52 freelikegnu     Calinou: whats cooking with carbone-ng?
15:52 Calinou         nothing really :( no time, university started
15:53 freelikegnu     ah
15:53 freelikegnu     what are you studying?
15:54 Calinou         computer graphics, Web design, some programming
15:54 Calinou         also audiovisuals
15:54 freelikegnu     cool
15:54 Calinou         networking
15:54 Calinou         (we use Debian :D)
15:55 freelikegnu     very nice :D
15:55 rubenwardy      what is the course name?
15:55 freelikegnu     it would pain me to have to use windows for CS or graphics
15:55 Calinou         http://src-media.com/ppn-mmi/fiches-modules.html
15:56 Calinou         here it is, in French
15:56 Calinou         (click on Semestre 1)
15:56 RealBadAngel    Calinou, u need university for that? such skills are free ;)
15:56 Calinou         freelikegnu, I do have to use Windows for Photoshop/Illustrator/Office. that sucks
15:56 Calinou         we don't use only free software
15:56 Calinou         most teachers use Sublime Text too
15:56 Calinou         and Google Chrome
15:57 RealBadAngel    such studies are outdated
15:57 Calinou         suddenly: jobs
15:57 Calinou         you simply don't get jobs without degrees
15:57 RealBadAngel    teachers are ususally 10-15 yrs after whats current
15:57 Calinou         not really
15:57 freelikegnu     the benefit of university are networking with others with like talents
15:57 Calinou         I know what's current, and they seem to be mostly current
15:58 Calinou         like, they teach actual HTML5
15:58 Calinou         they tell you not to use tables for formatting and such :p
15:58 nrzkt           DUT is a good graduate, but you should continue with L3
15:58 est31           and no flash?
15:58 Calinou         yeah, no Flash/Dreamweaver
15:58 Calinou         we were told that :) hopefully I don't have to touch either
15:58 Calinou         nrzkt, I know
15:58 Calinou         that's the plan, probably
15:58 RealBadAngel    i remember when we had there hdds, like 20-40 megabytes, they learned us about 5,25 floppies
15:58 freelikegnu     I would have gotten more out of my education if I had socialized more
15:58 nrzkt           freelikegnu: University in france is not same as USA, ti's a little bit different
15:59 RealBadAngel    that was real fun
15:59 freelikegnu     no doubt, nrzkt
15:59 RealBadAngel    not to mention Odra computers
15:59 freelikegnu     fortunately I went to a great art school
15:59 nrzkt           RealBadAngel: my network teacher 5 years ago learned us ATM and X25 networks...
16:00 RealBadAngel    when that hardware got hung, you had to go dowstairs, down the tunnel, by ladder
16:00 rubenwardy      * taught us about
16:00 RealBadAngel    to push the lever
16:00 freelikegnu     lol
16:00 RealBadAngel    that was reset
16:01 waressearcher2  Odra ? is it a mainframe kind ?
16:01 freelikegnu     one of the key lessons of CD: Have you tried turning it off and back on again?
16:01 waressearcher2  is it older than PDP11 ?
16:01 RealBadAngel    in its times it was very modern
16:01 freelikegnu     *CS
16:02 RealBadAngel    they say that last of Odra was turned off in 2010
16:03 waressearcher2  is it possible to make a mob without 3d software ? just using NodeEditor to make it looks more like sheep but without leg animation, there are no legs, that just jumps, will it go for a mob ?
16:03 Jordach         waressearcher2, you will need blender
16:04 waressearcher2  Jordach: what if its a "cube" mob, just a jumping cube with a texture of a  some creature and that jumps around and can follow the player ? do I really need entire blender for this ?
16:04 Jordach         waressearcher2, you need to
16:04 Jordach         UV faces aren't assigned to it automatically
16:04 waressearcher2  but there is no animation of 3d model itself its just jumping
16:04 Jordach         the texture itself will need assigning
16:05 RealBadAngel    waressearcher2, odra computers are like 60-70's previous century
16:05 waressearcher2  Jordach: do you need a blender to make say furniture ?
16:05 waressearcher2  chair ?
16:05 Jordach         waressearcher2, regular nodes can be made with that yes, but blender has finer control
16:06 RealBadAngel    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Odra_%28computer%29
16:13 Krock           oh yeah, that's the early version of my pocket calculator :P
16:15 Jordach         RealBadAngel, musta been a beech to clean when dusty :D
16:25 RealBadAngel    jordach, they used to have cleaners hired just for those rooms
16:26 Jordach         damn
16:26 RealBadAngel    and thats not a joke
16:26 waressearcher2  "cleaners", more than one cleaner ?
16:26 RealBadAngel    usual lady with mop was not qualified enough
16:26 waressearcher2  another question how much watts it eats
16:27 RealBadAngel    there were wires everywhere
16:27 waressearcher2  or kilowatts
16:27 Jordach         http://i.imgur.com/7zORE6Y.png
16:28 RealBadAngel    1.21 gigawatts! 1.21 gigawatts. Great Scott!
16:28 * RealBadAngel  runs out of the room
16:33 waressearcher2  is that in full power or in idle ?
16:34 Jordach         topkek
16:34 Jordach         topkek
16:38 Krock           lucily they invented the bipolar and then the unipolar transistors - would be such a waste of energy with radio tubes
16:38 Krock           *luckily
16:39 waressearcher2  its said facebooks data centers consume 2% of world energy, imagine they were using this types of machines for datacenters
16:39 RealBadAngel    odra parts are still very valuable
16:39 Jordach         you mean sometimes code will produce wrong results, that also makes the right results :^)
16:39 RealBadAngel    because of gold used
16:39 Jordach         (bipolar transistors!)
16:40 waressearcher2  RealBadAngel: because of heavy metals ?
16:40 arsdragonfly    hey check out my testing server featuring AdvancedMarket mod
16:40 RealBadAngel    just gold
16:40 Krock           Jordach, nah, TTL was quite percise
16:40 arsdragonfly    arsenalmp.noip.me:30001
16:40 arsdragonfly    !server arsenalmp.noip.me:30001
16:40 MinetestBot     arsdragonfly: No results
16:40 RealBadAngel    gold is way better conductor than copper
16:41 arsdragonfly    !server arsdragonfly
16:41 MinetestBot     arsdragonfly: Arsdragonfly's testing Minetest server | arsenalmp.noip.me:30001 | Clients: 0/15, 0/3 | Version: 0.4.13-dev / minetest | Ping: 332ms
16:41 waressearcher2  RealBadAngel: for information or for electricity ?
16:41 arsdragonfly    ^
16:41 waressearcher2  for information fiber is a better conductor
16:41 waressearcher2  fiberoptic
16:42 RealBadAngel    read about it
16:43 RealBadAngel    gold is just too expensive to be widely used
16:43 waressearcher2  right, that is why its primary uses for useless jewerly
17:03 Jordach         things i'm not going to do again: chop out 32 frames of a single water source animation
17:04 Krock           The situation when you hum a melody and can't remember the song's name...
17:04 Krock           Jordach, but you've got enough time.. so just repeat it
17:05 Jordach         Krock, the lava texture is faster - only needs 16 frames, compared to the 32
17:05 waressearcher2  Jordach: are you an artist ?
17:05 Krock           smoothness ftw :)
17:05 waressearcher2  doing pixel art ?
17:06 Krock           Jordach is blender pro
17:06 waressearcher2  of what version of blender he is pro
17:07 waressearcher2  they like to change blender from version to version
17:07 * Krock         knows this problem with windows
17:09 Jordach         the version on steam auto updates :^)
17:12 Jordach         Krock, waressearcher2 http://jordach.net/Images/Screenshots/SteamedBlender.png
17:13 Krock           just 22 hours?? is somewhere a reset function?
17:14 Calinou         https://imgrush.com/tfruOIIt_oiz
17:14 Jordach         Krock, remember the last few years, i only started timing it with steam
17:14 Krock           oh, alright.
17:14 Jordach         i can even install it on my linux laptop next wed
17:15 Jordach         for extra time - as i'm using it for my animation course
17:15 Krock           Calinou, interesting physics you got there
17:25 Jordach         uwot atom
17:25 Jordach         http://jordach.net/Images/Screenshots/uwotatom.png
17:25 Jordach         so now it's able to use the MT API
17:25 Jordach         uwot
17:29 Calinou         probably based on opened files?
17:33 rubenwardy      fibre doesn't conduct electricity :(
17:34 waressearcher2  does radio waves conduct electricity ?
17:34 waressearcher2  but you can still send energy over an air
17:35 VanessaE        radio waves *are* electricity
17:35 est31           waressearcher2, it doesnt conduct electricity
17:35 rubenwardy      radio waves are EM waves, not electricity
17:35 VanessaE        or more specifically, electromagnetic energy
17:35 rubenwardy      electricity is the flow of electrons
17:35 VanessaE        rubenwardy: yes, and EM waves are formed from electrons and/or photons
17:35 rubenwardy      EM waves are photons
17:35 est31           you say something "conducts electricity" if there are free moving electrons you can connect to anodes / kathodes
17:36 est31           then the electrons flow into the respective direction
17:36 waressearcher2  so if light also "electromagnetic energy" fibreoptic cables can deliver energy ?
17:36 est31           yes
17:36 est31           waressearcher2, light is energy
17:36 VanessaE        waressearcher2: they can't pump enough energy through a fiberoptic cable for it to matter, though
17:36 est31           look at the sun waressearcher2
17:36 waressearcher2  its hot
17:37 waressearcher2  and bright, and sets every 10 minutes
17:37 est31           lol
17:37 VanessaE        haha
17:37 est31           well its hotter than you, that means there is  entropy which means there is energy
17:38 waressearcher2  lets fight entropy
17:38 waressearcher2  by organizing more blocks
17:38 Krock           lets fight ystrophy
17:38 Krock           *dystrophy
17:39 rubenwardy      !g dystrophy
17:39 MinetestBot     rubenwardy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dystrophy
18:10 RealBadAngel    lol
18:11 RealBadAngel    lets fight itchty fingers ;)
18:12 RealBadAngel    skyblock is down?
18:14 twoelk          waressearcher2: you may want to study some cubic mobs mods such as https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=9472
18:16 RealBadAngel    waressearcher2, light is also an energy
18:16 RealBadAngel    theres no if
18:17 RealBadAngel    look at the sun and use piece of glaass to burn things with it
18:17 twoelk          everything that exists in a "physical" way is energy of a sort
18:18 RealBadAngel    to be honest theres no hotter thing in the universe that light source, the sun
18:18 RealBadAngel    *than
18:20 RealBadAngel    Fotosphere: 5778 K (5505 °C), Corona: typically ~2 mln K, Core: 1,571×107 K
18:20 RealBadAngel    and thats HOT ;)
18:21 * CWz           hates minecraft sneaking animation
18:24 Krock           RealBadAngel, but our sun is tiny
18:25 Krock           I wonder how the measured the core temp...
18:26 waressearcher2  RealBadAngel: at that temperature, what speed atoms moves at core of the sun ?
18:26 waressearcher2  Krock: infrared
18:26 Krock           waressearcher2, but that's the fotosphere temp
18:27 waressearcher2  they say infrared light travels from core to the surface for a long period of time
18:27 waressearcher2  bouncing around
18:27 waressearcher2  or something like that
18:28 RealBadAngel    yes, our sun is tiny
18:29 RealBadAngel    waressearcher2, only thing to limit light speed is gravity
18:30 RealBadAngel    our solar is way to small for such effects
18:30 RealBadAngel    it emits light, its mass cannot stop it
18:31 RealBadAngel    and if you hear or read such bullshit just ban that
18:34 waressearcher2  wait, it could've been Gamma Rays, here http://classroom.synonym.com/long-photons-emerge-suns-core-outside-10063.html
18:37 waressearcher2  the path from the center to the emergence from the sun takes many steps and many years, so it can take from 5,000 years to more than half a million years for the photon to escape the sun
18:38 waressearcher2  "Visible sunlight started as a gamma ray many thousands of years ago", its like we see the past of the sun
18:41 rubenwardy      RealBadAngel, scientists can get hotter than 5505 degrees
18:43 est31           yeah sunlight is mostly thermic radiation
18:57 Jordach         http://jordach.net/Images/Screenshots/screenshot_20150912_195520.png
19:20 RealBadAngel    Core: 1,571×107 K is pretty hot i think, even as for such small star
19:20 zat             wat is that Jordach
19:53 Jordach         what these may do are unknown as of now
19:53 Jordach         http://jordach.net/Images/Screenshots/screenshot_20150912_204839.png
20:06 RealBadAngel    Jordach, liquid containers drawtype is here for long time already :P
20:07 Jordach         RealBadAngel, far better than that
20:07 RealBadAngel    http://i.imgur.com/KTyXLDa.png
20:08 Jordach         different type of container
20:09 zat             roflflfl
20:29 Jordach         http://jordach.net/Images/Screenshots/screenshot_20150912_212623.png
20:32 Jordach         RealBadAngel, the liquid inside doesn't read how much is inside :^)
20:35 Jordach         hey kaeza
20:35 kaeza           sup Jordach
20:35 Jordach         working on a new toy
20:35 Jordach         http://jordach.net/Images/Screenshots/screenshot_20150912_212623.png
20:37 kaeza           what is that?
20:37 Jordach         some sort of Mese-Focused Liquid Device
20:39 kaeza           nice models
20:40 kaeza           do they work?
20:40 Jordach         yes
20:40 Jordach         not until i properly stabilise em
20:40 kaeza           stabilize?
20:42 Jordach         trying to balance them
20:47 Jordach         (hint - these are considered both item deleters and recyclers at the same time)
21:04 Jordach         gah
21:04 Jordach         why is the goddamn minetest game bucket using left and right clicks for dump and fill
21:04 Jordach         some blocks *fail* to work because of this
21:06 Jordach         just change line 113 (bucket/init.lua) from on_use to on_place
21:06 est31           I guess android
21:07 Jordach         doubt it
21:07 est31           there you have to double tap
21:07 Jordach         on_use breaks on_punch for blocks
21:07 est31           I know
21:07 est31           just simply dont select it
21:07 Jordach         who's fucking idea was this
21:08 Jordach         don't see how that's a damn probkem
21:08 Jordach         it's consistent, and allows mod makers to use left click with buckets to interact with objects
21:09 Jordach         and afaik you can't override the defaukt bucket:empty_bucket, because it's hardcoded
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21:26 Jordach         wow
22:45 hoodedice       need help with C, how do I read an int that I have, digit by digit? so like, 1324123
23:04 zat             itoa()
23:45 tognito         hello I'm quite new to Minetest
23:45 tognito         hola
23:45 tognito         I don't know where the subgames can be downloaded from
23:51 Teckla          tognito: Join some of us on minetest.davison.io
23:51 Teckla          It's a good public server with lots of fun mods installed.
23:52 tognito         name paswword?
23:54 tognito         ok, got it