Time Nick Message 05:34 nanepiwo on my server, the papyrus and grass are unknown nodes, even though they are defined in default, and im using that mod. how could that be possible? 05:39 swift110-phone Hey freefull 06:02 Guest24890 Anyone else having trouble getting the latest release of irrlicht to build? 06:10 swift110-phone I've only played a few time 06:54 OldCoder Announcing a new world under test: 06:54 OldCoder server minetest.org port 30025 name Wizard School 06:54 OldCoder Any resemblance to trademarked buildings is coincidental 06:54 OldCoder CWz, ^ 07:10 nanepiwo new world! 07:52 rubenwardy damn it OldCoder ;) 07:53 rubenwardy I've been writing such a subgame to host a server like that 07:53 rubenwardy although it doesn't work yet 07:57 rubenwardy I sort of moved off it to other things 10:16 grandchaos9000 I can't wait to update package of Minetest 0.4.13 for Arch(-based) GNU/Linux later. 10:22 ElectronLibre Hmm, is it normal that the topic still says "Last Release: 0.4.12"? 10:25 rubenwardy they obviously forgot 10:25 rubenwardy sfan5 10:26 ElectronLibre Yes, that was not really a question, but a polite reminder. 10:27 ElectronLibre I checked both Minetest Game's and Minetest's 0.4.13 tags and they were present, and kilbith just asked to update the download page on the dev channel. Plus, the topic on #minetest-dev says that it was released yesterday, so, it was an obvious forgetting. 10:30 nanepiwo where do I ask for server help? here, on inchra? 10:31 ElectronLibre It depends on what kind of question you have. 10:32 nanepiwo on my server, the papyrus and grass are unknown nodes, even though they are defined in default, and im using that mod. 10:34 ElectronLibre Weird. Could you check their itemstrings? (Debug informations, while pointing the unknown node) 10:35 nanepiwo default:papyrus 10:35 nanepiwo I think, I'll check again 10:35 ElectronLibre Just to be sure. 11:43 sfan5 !op 11:43 ElectronLibre Thanks sfan5. 12:34 WSDguy2014 Hey Darcidride, new version 0.4.13 has been released 12:35 WSDguy2014 guys, forgot need add bowl and mushroom stew to the game 12:36 ElectronLibre WSDguy2014: Darcidride planned to upgrade all of his serveurs to 0.4.13 in a few weeks as far as I remember. 12:36 WSDguy2014 to craft bowl needs 3 any wooden planks, then needs brown mushroom + red mushroom + bowl = mushroom stew 12:37 WSDguy2014 its Minecraft-like 12:37 Darcidride Hi 12:37 WSDguy2014 if you eat with mushroom stew, heals 4 hearts 12:38 WSDguy2014 Hello Darcidride 12:47 VanessaE WSDguy2014: that's squarely in the real of a mod, probably rubenwardy's food mod 12:47 VanessaE realm* 12:48 H-H-H hey VanessaE would it not have made snece to add the mushroom stew with the mushrooms when they were added to minetest_game 12:50 RealBadAngel thats ridiculous, those hacked clients 12:50 RealBadAngel folks are flying around on skyblock servers and killing players for their own sick fun 12:51 RealBadAngel and yet im blamed for some gfx effect not lookin good and marked as a blocker 12:51 H-H-H o goodie someone else to ignore 12:52 RealBadAngel in case somebody havent noticed that, this issue is effectively makin multiplayer unplayable 12:54 WSDguy2014 VanessaE: Yes, but need add Bowl and Mushroom Stew to the minetest_game, eating Mushroom Stew, heals 4 hearts, must be not stackable 12:55 RealBadAngel ha ha ha, a bowl is really more important than a kid flying around and killing the players 12:55 RealBadAngel agree, you just won a super bowl 12:55 VanessaE WSDguy2014: you want those things because they're MC-like, but this ain't MC. 12:56 WSDguy2014 VanessaE: Crafting 4 Bowls needs "3 any Wooden Planks = 4 Bowls" and crafting Mushroom Stew needs "Brown Mushroom + Red Mushroom + Bowl = Mushroom Stew" 12:56 WSDguy2014 RealBadAngel: Thanks :D 12:57 WSDguy2014 VanessaE: Developers need to release version 0.4.13_1 for small update example with changelog "Added Bowl and Mushroom Stew to the minetest_game, eating Mushroom Stew, heals 4 hearts" 12:58 VanessaE WSDguy2014: no. 12:58 VanessaE that's for a mod to add. 12:58 WSDguy2014 VanessaE: why? 12:58 WSDguy2014 VanessaE: okay 12:58 VanessaE because minetest_game doesn't need it. 12:58 VanessaE it is NOT an MC clone. 12:59 WSDguy2014 VanessaE: but Mushrooms has been added in version 0.4.13 12:59 VanessaE so? 12:59 VanessaE that's like saying that because we have apples, we should have e.g. apple pie. 12:59 WSDguy2014 you can eat mushooms like on old version Survival Test from Minecraft 13:02 VanessaE again, this ain't minecraft. 13:02 VanessaE none of the devs have any interest in trying to clone MC. 13:05 jojoa1997 VanessaE HOW DARE THIS NOT BE MINECRAFT!!! 13:05 WSDguy2014 VanessaE: Look at Minecraft Wiki, goddamit, http://minecraft.gamepedia.com/Survival_Test 13:05 VanessaE haha 13:06 VanessaE WSDguy2014: THIS IS NOT MINECRAFT. 13:07 WSDguy2014 VanessaE: I SAID MINETEST ITS BEST, LIKE MINECRAFT 13:07 jojoa1997 I suggest we change the name to Minecraft3.0 13:07 ElectronLibre Calm down on the cap locks please. It's not capslocks day yet. 13:07 ElectronLibre s/cap/caps 13:07 WSDguy2014 jojoa1997: nope, its bad idea to rename it 13:08 jojoa1997 Its a PERFECT IDEA(i use shift :P) 13:08 ElectronLibre WSDguy2014: It's a bad idea to copy it. 13:08 RealBadAngel WSDguy2014, more time will pass more mt will be different from mc 13:08 jojoa1997 RealBadAngel you did a good job with the shaders 13:08 RealBadAngel and asking for it being similar wont help 13:08 VanessaE WSDguy2014: my point is, I don't care about anything on minecraft's wiki, nor do most of the core devs. 13:09 VanessaE you want mushroom soup, get rubenwardy to add it to his food mod, and use thant. 13:09 VanessaE that* 13:09 rubenwardy cba right now :P 13:09 RealBadAngel jojoa1997, what i did it was just a begining 13:09 rubenwardy Attempting to master SFML 13:09 jojoa1997 WSDguy2014 if you want minecraft go here https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=7427 13:09 jojoa1997 though i havent updated it in forever 13:10 WSDguy2014 in version 0.4.13 Glitched wield item is STILL NOT FIXED. GODDAMIT!!!1!11!((( 13:10 ElectronLibre What glitch? 13:11 VanessaE WSDguy2014: 0.4.13 is not the final release you know. 13:11 ElectronLibre And also, don't shout like that, you will get not respond because people won't read what you wrote, in the worst cases you could even get mutted/banned. 13:12 ElectronLibre s/respond/responses 13:12 VanessaE WSDguy2014: there will be a 0.4.14 release soon as well -- couple months off, is the plan. 13:12 WSDguy2014 0.4.13 has been released 13:12 VanessaE yeah and it's not the last release that'll ever be made 13:13 Amaz Hopefully ;) 13:13 WSDguy2014 ElectronLibre: link http://imgur.com/a/6ZAgm <--- Click 13:13 ElectronLibre !title 13:13 MinetestBot ElectronLibre: Normal and Glitched Wield item in Minetest - Album on Imgur 13:14 WSDguy2014 ElectronLibre: for what? 13:14 VanessaE WSDguy2014: we know what the wield glitch it, and there's already a github issue for it 13:14 VanessaE is* 13:14 ElectronLibre Oh, that. 13:14 WSDguy2014 ElectronLibre: who suported to add glithced wield item? 13:14 ElectronLibre I don't have that glitch, but I'm not sure if it's from a shader or the engine, or Minetest Game. 13:15 ElectronLibre WSDguy2014: If debugging is when you remove bugs from a source code, then programming is when you add some? There will always be bugs as long as Minetest is not finished. 13:15 ElectronLibre And it won't be finished soon. 13:16 WSDguy2014 Developers won't fix glithced wield item 13:16 ElectronLibre They will. 13:16 WSDguy2014 Developers are WORST 13:17 ElectronLibre One day or another they will have to. Someone will find a way to fix that. 13:17 WSDguy2014 :''( 13:17 ElectronLibre Without the developers you wouldn't have Minetest as it is now and at best you would have something closer to what was 0.3, and even 0.3 had good developers. 13:18 ElectronLibre So stop whining, wait, and have faith in the developers. 13:21 WSDguy2014 i am playing on old version 0.3.1, chest have items, after rejoin world, chest have items are removed :( 13:21 WSDguy2014 i think items are disapeard 13:21 jojoa1997 must hold back 13:21 ElectronLibre jojoa1997: I should not have started talking. Don't do the same mistake. 13:22 jojoa1997 sorry "i think the items have disapeared" 13:22 H-H-H well said ElectronLibre 13:22 * H-H-H shuts up to 13:22 ElectronLibre And then people wonder why I don't play Minetest on multiplayer servers. 13:22 * ElectronLibre shuts up as well 13:22 jojoa1997 ElectronLibre I am not the ignorant troll who didnt know he was trolling anymore 13:23 WSDguy2014 because i am played on singleplayer world 13:23 jojoa1997 ElectronLibre at least you play minetest. I havent run MT in months. (just not enough time/want) 13:23 ElectronLibre jojoa1997: Good. But I don't remember anything bad you did, so I can't tell. 13:23 ElectronLibre H-H-H: Instead of shutting up, use the /ignore command, that's a great command. 13:24 jojoa1997 i dont think i exactly trolled. I think i was just too random and talked too much 13:24 WSDguy2014 bye 13:25 ElectronLibre jojoa1997: The only times I launch minetest is when I'm coding a mod. Otherwise, I don't use it. I only start minetest when I need to fix something on one of my mods, or work for Darcidride's servers. 13:25 H-H-H i already did for one other in this chan 13:25 ElectronLibre So "playing" is a big word. 13:25 ElectronLibre He's gone anyway. 13:28 jojoa1997 hehe developers of minetest(mods and engine) spend less and less time actually playing and more and more time coding 13:29 RealBadAngel i do actually play the game 13:29 VanessaE most of the devs don't play at all, jojoa1997 13:29 ElectronLibre I think I only spend my time coding. I don't play the game anymore. 13:29 RealBadAngel which raises the question to stormchaser 13:30 jojoa1997 VanessaE yeah isnt it ironic 13:30 RealBadAngel where the fuck is my obsidian tower i built for so long 13:30 VanessaE RealBadAngel: he talked of resetting the map 13:30 ElectronLibre When you're able to understand the inners of Minetest Game, able to create and destroy everything by removing the correct files, the game is not funny anymore. 13:30 RealBadAngel great 13:30 VanessaE his VPS doesn't have enough RAM to run Skyblock plus the other two servers. 13:30 RealBadAngel i spent almost a week on it and have it not finished 13:30 VanessaE however, I think Sokomine has a partial copy of the map 13:31 VanessaE and yeah, I'm upset too, I had a pretty nice little house and orchard going there. 13:31 RealBadAngel my tower was the biggest thing ever i built in mt :( 13:33 VanessaE yep, looks like he reset the map. 13:33 VanessaE my stuff's gone. 13:34 RealBadAngel pity 13:35 RealBadAngel that tower was really NICE 13:35 RealBadAngel wonder if i have any screenshots of it 13:36 TBC_x I didn't know that minetest has a keygen 13:36 RealBadAngel not on this system 13:36 * RealBadAngel cries 13:36 Amaz stormchaser might have a copy of the map. 13:37 RealBadAngel if he wont i will insist him help rebuilding the tower. definitely ;) 13:37 WSDguy2014 jojoa1997: i have problem, i puting on crafting table item slot, pressing ESC, then right-click on crafting table, my item is disapears. can you fix this bug? 13:38 H-H-H i am playing on old version 0.3.1 13:38 RealBadAngel WSDguy2014, please report that on github, wiht description how exactly to reproduce the bug 13:38 H-H-H so i doubt it 13:38 WSDguy2014 sorry, no 13:38 RealBadAngel WSDguy2014, also you have to say which version of the game youre using 13:39 WSDguy2014 RealBadAngel: i am playing on subgame Overcraft Origins 13:39 WSDguy2014 my version is 0.4.13 13:40 jojoa1997 WSDguy2014 i think it might be versioning problems. I never had that problem. Also i cant really fix it cause i am at work 13:40 jojoa1997 and I havent coded in lua in forever so i might not even be able to fix it. 13:42 WSDguy2014 jojoa1997: i am recommended to play on subgame Overcraft Origins? 13:42 Donillo about glitched wielded items, I've seen something similar on Android 13:43 YuGiOhJCJ hello that's strange since I set a static spawn point on my minetest server, some players are complaining to spawn at an other place where they can't escape (under the ground) 13:43 jojoa1997 WSDguy2014 sure do what you want 13:44 YuGiOhJCJ each time I try myself to join my server with a new account I have no problem... but it happens sometime 13:44 YuGiOhJCJ I set the point to 0, 50, 0 so it should always be there isn't it? 13:44 Donillo In past I've experienced some bug which can get you underground sometimes 13:45 Donillo I think it is somewhat related to WARNING: updateListener: invalid value 13:46 Donillo I don't remember well through :/ 13:46 WSDguy2014 jojoa1997: in crafting table, i putting input item slot on wood, then pressing escape, item drops, not disapearing 13:47 jojoa1997 ok then it is all good 13:48 WSDguy2014 jojoa1997: now you fix this bug thing? 13:48 jojoa1997 huh? 13:48 jojoa1997 it is supposed to drop 13:49 jojoa1997 im sorry i cant talk right now. I have a coworker needing something 13:49 YuGiOhJCJ I think I will remove this static spawn point 13:53 YuGiOhJCJ how to unset a variable ? 13:53 YuGiOhJCJ I have done something like that: "/set -n static_spawnpoint x,y,z" 13:53 YuGiOhJCJ is there an "/unset" command? 14:00 RealBadAngel YuGiOhJCJ, set it in config file 14:01 RealBadAngel i mean shut down the server, set variable(s) you need and restart it 14:01 RealBadAngel the change will be permament then 14:02 YuGiOhJCJ oh I will do that when no players are on my server 14:03 RealBadAngel just inform them youre going to do maintenance shutdown 14:03 RealBadAngel they will understand 14:04 RealBadAngel doing such without notification is bad, but when u inform users what are you doing thats normal 14:04 RealBadAngel such things just happens in online gaming 14:06 RealBadAngel they can go out for a minute to piss, have a tea or meet love of their life ;) 14:24 YuGiOhJCJ ahah :p 14:47 WSDguy2014 jojoa1997: Hey, i have problem on subgame Overcraft Origins, im placing torch on ceiling, will drops 2 torches, instead of 1, i think is duplication glitch 14:49 jojoa1997 WSDguy2014 you could add an issue here if you want but I cant garantee that I will fix it. https://github.com/jojoa1997/overcraft_origins/issues 14:49 jojoa1997 its jsut that saying them in here i will forget since it isnt exactly a priority for me 14:50 WSDguy2014 jojoa1997: you need to test it, to place torch on ceiling 14:51 WSDguy2014 drops 2, instead of 1 14:52 jojoa1997 WSDguy2014 Im sorry. I am in work so i cant even change the code for a while. An i havent worked on it since the beggining of the year. I might or might not contiunue working on it since school is a priority. Also i said make the issues on github because I will probably forget about it by the time i get home 15:02 WSDguy2014 jojoa1997: i registered and created issues 15:03 jojoa1997 (^.^)b 15:04 jojoa1997 !time 15:04 jojoa1997 are you new WSDguy2014 ? 15:04 WSDguy2014 jojoa1997: Yes 15:05 jojoa1997 I suggest you also make an account on freenode so you can protect your name. 15:05 jojoa1997 For example if you were to leave I could do /nick WSDguy2014 and i could take your nick 15:06 RealBadAngel jojoa1997, dont forget to buy pills 15:06 jojoa1997 also I would suggest using a client like hexchat for irc since it is way better than the web version 15:06 jojoa1997 RealBadAngel huh? 15:07 RealBadAngel otherwise you will forgot about you shouldnt forget 15:07 RealBadAngel so the first step are pills ;) 15:08 jojoa1997 huh? 15:08 WSDguy2014 jojoa1997: if you seen that? click Here ---> https://github.com/jojoa1997/overcraft_origins/issues/4 15:08 RealBadAngel the beggining of the year. I might or might not contiunue working on it since school is a priority. Also i said make the issues on github because I will probably forget about it by the time i get home 15:08 RealBadAngel * H-H-H (~H-H-H@host-92-4-83-178.as43234.net) wchodzi do pokoju #minetest 15:09 RealBadAngel get the damn pills 15:09 RealBadAngel recesion is already happening :P 15:10 jojoa1997 omg spleef arena 15:10 jojoa1997 I remember that 15:11 xenkey me too 15:11 xenkey oh hey its jojoa1337 15:11 H-H-H hmm i got pinged like someone said my name but no one did lol 15:12 jojoa1997 * H-H-H (~H-H-H@host-92-4-83-178.as43234.net) wchodzi do 15:12 jojoa1997 xenkey who are you? 15:13 xenkey jojoa1997: why ask such a dumb question 15:13 H-H-H ahh ok it was rba they r on my ignore list thats why i didnt see it :) 15:14 Donillo why ever use ignores? 15:14 RealBadAngel im on a ignore list? lol 15:14 Donillo H-H-H: 15:14 < RealBadAngel> im on a ignore list? lol 15:14 RealBadAngel gimme your ip i will hardcode ban for you :P 15:14 H-H-H why not lol it does what it needs to 15:15 Donillo well, you are missing a lot 15:15 H-H-H o well im sure i will survive 15:15 jojoa1997 xenkey sorry but i dont remember you 15:15 xenkey BECAUSE YOU DONT KNOW ME 15:15 xenkey why do you think you know me 15:16 Donillo xenkey: I don't know who you are as well :) 15:16 jojoa1997 your name sounds familier 15:16 xenkey OH WOW IS THIS DAY THE DAY OF MISTER OBVIOUS 15:16 Donillo wth 15:16 jojoa1997 and it has been a while since someone has called me jojoa1337 15:16 jojoa1997 like months 15:16 jojoa1997 everyone was changing into names similiar to mine one day 15:17 xenkey great. 15:17 xenkey good for you. 15:17 RealBadAngel anyway, see ya folks, going afk 15:54 Samson1 When I enable shaders , all the textures go shades of red 15:54 Samson1 It only happened since I upgraded to 0.4.13 15:54 VanessaE disable them. 15:55 VanessaE MT's shaders are kinda stupid right now 15:55 VanessaE (they don't auto-adapt to GPUs that run older versions of opengl/glsl) 15:55 Samson1 I see 15:56 Samson1 Is there a bug report about it that I could follow? 15:56 VanessaE not directly 15:56 VanessaE rather, there's a plan to add "simple" shaders that work like the old ones used to. 15:57 Samson1 So it's partly a limitation of my GPU? 15:57 VanessaE no 15:58 VanessaE it's a limitation of the version of OpenGL you use - minetest's shaders are trying to do too much. it's a MT problem 15:59 Samson1 Ok, thanks 16:00 VanessaE it should be fixed soon 16:01 Samson1 Good to know, thanks :) 16:01 Samson1 I'll be patient 16:01 VanessaE the plan is more or less to borrow the old shaders code from around the 0.4.9-10 timeframe (?) and retune it as needed 16:01 VanessaE though how that'll happen in reality is a different matter :) 16:27 CWz hmm 2015-08-21 19:27:35: ERROR[CurlFetchThread]: servers.minetest.net/announce not found (Couldn't connect to server) (response code 0) 16:28 CWz is there a "magic trick" to solve that? 16:28 VanessaE looks like it's not working for me either, 16:28 VanessaE in the browser. 16:29 rubenwardy wtf is response code 0? 16:29 rubenwardy DNS? 16:30 VanessaE empty response 16:31 VanessaE (there is no http code 0) 16:31 rubenwardy Is `const Classname *a;` a constant pointer to an object which you can change? For example you can do a->one = b; but not a = b 16:31 rubenwardy V++ 16:31 rubenwardy * C++ 16:32 Samson1 VanessaE, actually there's more to the story... I noticed some other things were weird since the upgrade, like the player looked a bit blurry 16:32 VanessaE Samson1: turn off filtering 16:32 Samson1 I deleted my config and everything worked fine, including shaders 16:32 VanessaE wait what? 16:32 Samson1 I traced it down to this line in my config: video_driver = burningsvideo 16:32 Samson1 No idea what it is 16:32 VanessaE Ah 16:32 VanessaE ok 16:32 VanessaE well that's a software-only video driver 16:32 VanessaE which you should never use 16:33 Samson1 Aha, well it all works now so I'm happy - thanks for the help :) 16:57 johnwayne1986 rubenwardy: no, you can write it IMHO easier as Classname const* a, see here for an example: http://ideone.com/7ceAoT 17:09 Donillo is there are mods like ComputerCraft? 17:09 Donillo or at least some interface for player to interact with Lua Controller from mesecons? 17:12 nore Donillo: you can try https://github.com/Ekdohibs/turtle if you know how to program in Forth 17:13 Donillo looks interesting, thanks 17:14 Donillo btw, what digilines can do? 17:15 kahrl Donillo: also https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=12705 17:18 VanessaE Donillo: it's a data connection, vageuly similar to the old 10Base2 17:18 VanessaE vaguely* 17:18 VanessaE you pass messages back and forth across a wire, and receivers on the wire listen and react to those messages 17:18 VanessaE unlike mesecons, which is more like TTL 17:21 VanessaE cornernote: *poke* 17:28 Donillo os.execute() - hahawhat? 17:30 CWz anyone know how to suppress the PLAYER joined/left the game message if a certain player(Owner) joins 17:30 Donillo CWz: I don't know, you should not forget about /status :) 17:31 CWz I'm pretty sure it can only be done by modifying server.cpp and i did try it but i failed. 17:31 CWz i really am not bothered by /status since most player don't know how to use chatcommands or use chat 17:32 Donillo Just give ban privilege to unsuspecious account :) 17:32 Donillo I've got your idea right, you wanna catch griefers or cheaters? 17:37 rubenwardy rubenwardy@rubenPC:~/dev/minetest$ grep -nr "joined" src/* 17:37 rubenwardy src/server.cpp:1142: message += L" joined the game."; 17:38 rubenwardy rubenwardy@rubenPC:~/dev/minetest$ grep -nr "left the game" src/* 17:38 rubenwardy src/server.cpp:2661: message += L" left the game."; 17:38 rubenwardy those are the lines 17:43 CWz sorry connection dropped 17:43 Donillo 17:32 < Donillo> Just give ban privilege to unsuspecious account :) 17:43 Donillo 17:32 < Donillo> I've got your idea right, you wanna catch griefers or cheaters? 17:44 Donillo also: 17:44 Donillo 17:37 < rubenwardy> rubenwardy@rubenPC:~/dev/minetest$ grep -nr "joined" src/* 17:44 Donillo 17:37 < rubenwardy> src/server.cpp:1142:IIImessage += L" joined the game."; 17:44 Donillo 17:38 < rubenwardy> rubenwardy@rubenPC:~/dev/minetest$ grep -nr "left the game" src/* 17:44 Donillo 17:38 < rubenwardy> src/server.cpp:2661:IIIImessage += L" left the game."; 17:44 Donillo four lines from rubenwardy? 17:44 sfan5 yes ShadowBot is stupid 17:45 Donillo I don't think anti-flood protection is important here 17:45 Donillo freenode already have it's "Excess Flood" thing 17:45 sfan5 !deop ShadowBot indeed 17:46 xenkey :D 17:46 rubenwardy TIL how cool GDB can be 17:46 rubenwardy list, break, cont, step 17:46 sfan5 how did you not know that? 17:46 sfan5 gdb is not just the "gimme a backtrace program" 17:47 rubenwardy I knew it could do it, just not how 17:47 rubenwardy also, running commands on breakpoints 17:47 rubenwardy like automatted without pausing 17:52 Ataron Do anyone know why I have blue glitchy blocks when I use Minetest 0.4.13 release : https://lut.im/MOQFtsLh/KLPHfl0B ? 17:57 Donillo Ataron: disable shaders 17:58 Donillo there is some new bug introduced :/ 17:58 Ataron I disable all 17:58 Ataron :S 17:59 Ataron disabled* 17:59 CWz what bug 17:59 ElectronLibre Something shaped like this apparently : https://lut.im/MOQFtsLh/KLPHfl0B 18:01 CWz ElectronLibre: looks mildly trippy 18:01 ElectronLibre And apparently shaders were disabled at the moment that screenshot was taken. 18:02 Ataron I find 18:03 Ataron I forgot a shader case sorry :s 18:03 Ataron box* 18:03 VanessaE so it works now? 18:04 ElectronLibre Ok nevermind. Shaders errors again and again. 18:04 Ataron Yes sorry :) 18:04 VanessaE that's two today.. 18:11 israuor hello mintetesters 18:11 israuor does anybody know if it's posssible to switch from v6 mapgenerator to v7 ? 18:12 VanessaE either edit your world' 18:12 rubenwardy not without breaking your map 18:12 Calinou israuor, possible, but not advised at all 18:12 VanessaE ... or what he said. 18:12 rubenwardy ie: it will make cliffs 18:12 israuor I can imagine ;) 18:12 rubenwardy world.mt iirc 18:13 israuor I think with cliffs we could live ;) 18:15 rubenwardy go to your world folder, open map_meta.txt in a plaintext editor 18:15 rubenwardy (eg: wordpad, notepad, notepad++) 18:16 rubenwardy change mg_name = v6 to mg_name = v7 18:16 israuor I'd prefer vim :) 18:16 rubenwardy vim's good 18:16 rubenwardy I use Atom and mousepad 18:17 israuor have you tried it ? 18:17 israuor do you have screenshots of the cliffs maybe ? 18:17 rubenwardy this pretty much: https://imgrush.com/k1DNLD60ey35.png 18:18 israuor that could be pretty dangerous if lava's coming out, no ? 18:18 VanessaE rubenwardy: grass over sandstone? O_o 18:19 rubenwardy from here: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/3088 18:19 rubenwardy I had that image open in my browser behind IRC 18:21 technics_ hmm that biome-change screenshot looks not very cool :( 18:23 Amaz VanessaE, https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/blob/master/mods/default/mapgen.lua#L500-L515 18:23 VanessaE intersting. 18:23 VanessaE +e 18:24 VanessaE I need to look into mgv7 a bit mroe then :P 18:24 CWz [off] all griefer are spleafers 18:25 CWz wow my creative server so far suffered only 2 midrange griefer incidents 18:27 CWz i wonder when all of the youngsters will start asking for when is 0.4.14 comingout 18:29 Emperor_Genshin Probably around 10 months after 0.4.13 release perhaps. 18:29 VanessaE more like 2 months 18:29 VanessaE that's the plan anyway 18:29 VanessaE bbl 18:29 CWz i remember the days of 0.4.7 18:31 rubenwardy CWz 18:31 rubenwardy https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?p=187809#p187809 18:31 ElectronLibre That was about.. 1 year and a half ago? 18:31 Emperor_Genshin 1.4.14? 18:31 Emperor_Genshin lol 18:32 CWz wow 18:32 ElectronLibre 1.4.14, 18:32 ElectronLibre The only way to get it would be a time machine. 18:32 Emperor_Genshin yep 18:33 ElectronLibre Or a gate to travel to some kind of parallel timeline. 18:33 Emperor_Genshin Stargate? 18:34 Emperor_Genshin Nah 18:35 CWz I will hop into my Delorean. 18:36 ElectronLibre I don't recall what speed you need to hit exactly but good luck then. 18:36 ElectronLibre I've not seen that movie in a while... 18:37 CWz When this baby hits 88 miles per hour... you're gonna see some serious sh*t 18:37 Emperor_Genshin 88 mph, kek 18:39 Emperor_Genshin Man, back to the future was a great movie, good times. 18:39 CWz i don't think a real Delorean can go that fast 18:45 israuor I guess I'm convinced tchncs, I don't want map generator v7 anymore ;) 18:47 israuor That would be too much work for me then ;) 19:05 * CWz wonders if she should ask VanessaE to add whoopee cushions to homedecor 19:05 CWz *he 19:06 CWz I might make a whoopee cushions block mod or something 19:15 STHGOM i wonder if hey could've coasted down a big hill fast enough to hit 88 in the last one 19:19 CWz Caja just crashed 19:30 Megaf_ VanessaE: ping 19:30 CWz hmm i can get sound to work 19:31 CWz for block 19:31 rubenwardy homedecor is bloated enough 19:31 rubenwardy make a standalone mod :P 19:31 CWz how does one difine sound in nodes though 19:32 CWz i can't seem to get the sound to play 19:32 CWz i will have a look at minetest_game 19:32 VanessaE Megaf_: pong. https://github.com/VanessaE/moretrees/commit/8e0eeb5747ebe204ea71f1026d5fc2e5c8e0fc58 19:32 rubenwardy https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt#L3162-L3166 19:34 Megaf_ VanessaE: heh, Thanks a million. That kind of thing happens. :D 19:34 VanessaE yep 19:36 VanessaE just an artifact of getting the jungle/birch/fir growth working again. biome_lib filters-out "foo:bar" in strings (because it expects them to be nodes) at the mapgen reg stage, but not in the grow_plants() call 19:36 VanessaE that's why they only broke when trying to grow a sapling, rather than at mapgen time 19:37 CWz ok can't get the sound to work 19:37 Megaf_ VanessaE: yep, as expected it's fixed now indeed 19:37 brothersome CWz, have you build minetest with the sound option on? 19:37 Megaf_ brb 19:38 CWz not related to my problom 19:38 CWz i am tying to makea a whoopy cushion block 19:44 Donillo why sandstone does same sound as dirt when digged by hand? 19:44 CWz ok i issue sloved 19:55 rubenwardy Donillo, because sounds in Minetest suck 19:56 Donillo I can't find clay 19:56 Donillo :/ 19:57 brothersome Perhaps you can make clay - 2 cobble - 2 dirt - 1 water? 19:57 Donillo does not look like that 19:57 Donillo only from natural block 19:58 brothersome Ok, in linuxgaming.us you can create clay 19:58 Donillo x_x 20:02 Donillo damn those lighting glitches 20:03 rubenwardy look near water and sand 20:04 Donillo omfg! 20:04 Donillo FOUR (!) blocks of clay, after endless searches! 20:04 Donillo haha 20:05 brothersome Donillo, on what server are you? 20:05 Donillo HEAD 20:05 Donillo my own server, latest git version 20:06 Donillo 0.4.13-dev 20:13 Donillo got 32 clay lumps for alloy furnace 20:13 Donillo gotta say clay is way too rare 20:13 Donillo I have no idea how to build anything out of bricks 20:14 brothersome bricks makes brickstone 20:14 Donillo I talk about default:brick 20:19 Donillo I somehow climbed into 1 block high hole. just what. 20:20 Donillo being able to climb two-block high things is normal? 20:46 TheWild why can't we switch to fullscreen at runtime? 20:46 TheWild is that Irrlicht again? 20:47 kahrl on theory it would be possible, but you would have to destroy all irrlicht objects, recreate the device with the fullscreen flag enabled and then recreate all irrlicht objects and their interrelations 20:47 kahrl in theory* 20:49 TheWild in theory. Ok, say... the operation will take some time. Anyone tried it? 20:49 MinetestBot 02[git] 04est31 -> 03minetest/minetest: Fix wrong android versionName 136a1047d http://git.io/vszGa (152015-08-21T22:47:04+02:00) 20:50 kahrl it would probably be easier to switch the whole engine to ogre3d 20:51 est31 lookin forward to seeing zenos work :) 20:51 est31 but we have to wait until he reboots to linux lol 20:51 est31 xD 20:52 VanessaE kahrl: tomorrow. 20:52 VanessaE zeno said he'll be posting his abstraction fork, which he says uses ogre. 20:52 kahrl yeah, I was kinda referencing that ;) 20:52 kahrl I can't wait for it 20:52 VanessaE it's not perfect he said, but I convinced him to release what he's got since it does work 20:53 rubenwardy TheWild, kahrl there's some technique that BuildAWorld uses to change fullscreen mode 20:53 rubenwardy BuildAWorld uses Irrlicht 20:53 rubenwardy but they fork it, iirc 20:54 kahrl right, that's another possibility 20:54 kahrl to do it directly in the device 20:56 TheWild that's... stupid. What's wrong with IrrLicht - we can pause the game and change window size without problems, but we need tricks to just switch to fullscreen. 20:56 STHGOM rubenwardy, quick! save my awesome wall i made om your ctf worldd 20:59 rubenwardy https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/minetest.conf.example#L210 20:59 rubenwardy set this setting to true, restart mt 21:00 TheWild and the other side: Irrlicht... Ogre3D... Many will say its to not reinvent the wheel, but why not to go deeper and touch that GL stuff. We could have better control over rendering. 21:11 Megaf_ !server pizza 21:11 MinetestBot Megaf_: FREE PIZZA SERVER!! | 108.161.138.137 | Clients: 16/32, 12/19 | Version: 0.4.11 / minetest | Ping: 125ms 21:11 Megaf_ whats the mapgen used there? 21:11 Megaf_ !server Megaf 21:11 MinetestBot Megaf_: Megaf Server v4.0 | mt.megaf.info:30003 | Clients: 1/11, 1/2 | Version: 0.4.13-Megaf / MegafXploreNext | Ping: 7ms 21:13 est31 0.4.13-Megaf lol 21:25 sfan5 !server ping:least 21:25 MinetestBot sfan5: Craig's Server | minetest.davison.io | Clients: 6/50, 6/13 | Version: 0.4.12-dev / Craig-Server | Ping: 1ms 21:25 sfan5 !server players:most 21:25 MinetestBot sfan5: MINETEST ITALIA SERVER SURVIVAL | 176.31.162.215 | Clients: 48/50, 45/49 | Version: 0.4.12 / minetest | Ping: 8ms 21:27 Donillo "Lava damage is done client side" from http://wiki.minetest.net/How_to_kill - is that true? :/ 21:27 est31 yes it is 21:30 sfan5 indeed 21:33 Donillo est31: what you meant by saying that adding protection against glitching through protected wall is against freedom? 21:34 est31 public servers are public data, why should you restrict people from admiring your builds? 21:35 TheWild oh, that discussion, good 21:35 est31 at leasst my opinion on it :) 21:36 rubenwardy Minetest is a game engine 21:36 Donillo well, I think that may be configurable 21:36 Donillo if someone considers that part of game 21:36 TheWild please give me at least one name of open source game other than Minetest that allows walking through walls this way like minetest because preventing it would be against open-source 21:36 rubenwardy why should you be in the mind set that people only want to play creative? 21:36 Donillo personally I had to kill one guy two times who did 3 kilometers from spawn just to try kill me in my own house 21:37 rubenwardy You need to appreciate that Minetest doesn't have to be used to make MC-likes 21:38 TheWild I got the idea that walking through walls prevention could be a mod 21:38 est31 You need to appreciate that Minetest doesn't have to be used to make MC-likes 21:38 est31 ^ agreed 21:38 est31 TheWild, its very well doable from inside a mod 21:40 rubenwardy https://cdn.pbrd.co/images/3oUGvPL.png 21:41 rubenwardy appreciate the dummy cactus textures 21:41 rubenwardy basically: 21:41 rubenwardy 1. map split into map chunk 21:41 rubenwardy 2. is in theory infinite (although only 0, 0 is generated ATM) 21:41 rubenwardy oops, that's incorrect 21:41 rubenwardy I fixed that, chunks are automatically generated 21:42 rubenwardy 3. player looks at cursor, player can move. 4. no collision yet 5. has unit tests 21:42 rubenwardy A day of work (5 hours?) 21:44 est31 nice 21:45 rubenwardy Uses C++11 and SFML. Learning SFML at the same time as writing :P 21:45 rubenwardy Gave up on SDL 21:49 TheWild dang it, I'll put my cents. I liked to utilize SDL when I was trying to create my own game. It was SDL 1.something, and has good documentation and even downloadable as PDF. 21:49 rubenwardy I use SDL2 21:49 rubenwardy It's just too fiddly for me 21:49 TheWild right, SDL 2 came out with s****y documentation. I stopped using it. 21:49 rubenwardy And a pain to cmake 21:50 rubenwardy SFML is easy: sf::CircleShape cir(32); cir.setPosition(sf::Vector2f(10, 10)); window.draw(cir); 21:51 rubenwardy anyway, time for bed 21:51 rubenwardy o/ 21:51 TheWild good night 21:54 TheWild which case is more common: drop single item or drop whole stack? 21:55 est31 single items are stacks as well 21:58 TheWild eh, good point but saying "stack" I really meant something more than single item. 22:02 Donillo TheWild: I would say "dropping whole stack" 22:03 Donillo reasons I would drop whole stack are freeing up slot temporarily if inventory is full, sharing materials with other player 22:03 Donillo single item - no idea 22:10 TheWild I'm asking because it's again about Q and Shift+Q case. In my opinion throwing whole stack should require more effort than throwing single item, and thus Shift+Q. 22:11 israuor moin 22:11 TheWild It's also less error-prone. Say, I'm trading with someone and I want to give him single item while holding the whole stack. 22:12 TheWild and I just press Q and bang, my whole stack was dropped 22:13 israuor VanessaE: is there a reason, that I get only 1 ladder out of a bunch of sticks made of junglewood, but 4 ladders out of standard wooden sticks ? 22:13 VanessaE idk :P 22:13 israuor ? 22:13 VanessaE I don't know = idk 22:14 VanessaE unless that's an actual junglewood ladder, in which case it's probably provided by moreblocks 22:14 VanessaE and hence a different recipe than the standard ladder. 22:14 israuor no... it's still the same ladder in the end.. 22:14 VanessaE strange 22:14 israuor same recipe as well 22:15 est31 still can be different recipes 22:15 VanessaE I got nuthin :) 22:15 est31 technically 22:15 est31 we dont even remove straight dupes from the recipes list 22:16 israuor when crafting a ladder with mixed sticks (regular sticks, and jungle wood sticks together) I get also only 1 22:17 VanessaE has to be moreblocks 22:18 VanessaE minetest_game doesn't even have a jungle stick 22:19 israuor just a second.. I'm gonna check myself myself ... just deliverd information 22:20 TheWild moreblocks had a better flaw: crafting proper slopes using 4 diamond blocks and crafting them back we could get 5 diamond blocks 22:20 israuor here a screenshot. 22:20 israuor https://mediacrush.coding4.coffee/c7cd82a61a23 22:21 israuor first one with regular "Sticks"... second one "Jungle Stick" 22:22 VanessaE odd. 22:22 VanessaE nice texture pack btw 22:22 TheWild I think it's because one rule with all normal stick is defined and produces 4 ladders 22:22 TheWild but other sticks are just by group 22:27 israuor TheWild, in which file is this rule defined ? 22:28 TheWild I don't know, I just guess 22:28 israuor ;) 22:30 israuor aaahh... 22:30 israuor the jungle stick isn't from moretrees 22:31 israuor probably... 22:31 VanessaE moreblocks, probably. 22:31 VanessaE (moretrees doesn't supply a jungle stick) 22:33 TheWild moreblocks:jungle_stick, but I can't find ladder definition 22:38 TheWild I got a weird idea: When action cannot be done on a node (e.g. can't open chest), a node generates a particle with red X 22:40 VanessaE that should be doable with a mod 22:49 TheWild it looks like this: http://pasteboard.co/3tibVIO.png 22:50 TheWild it's time for me. Good bye 23:38 Sketch2 Does anybody know what the trick is with the CNC machine in the technic mod? 23:38 * wilkgr didn't know there was a CNC machine 23:38 Sketch2 Dylan was was trying to use it, and we can't figure it out 23:39 wilkgr Ah 23:40 * wilkgr googles 23:45 Sketch2 the readme doesn't give much help - Only certain kinds of building material can be processed in the CNC machine. 23:47 wilkgr ah 23:47 wilkgr Can steel? 23:55 Jordach it requires blocks 23:55 Jordach not ingots etc 23:55 wilkgr Steel blocks? 23:55 Jordach maybe