Time Nick Message 00:00 cimbakahn Does my version matter? 00:00 VanessaE cimbakahn: you'll want something recent 00:00 VanessaE so that mesh nodes work 00:00 VanessaE but that's about it 00:00 VanessaE 0.4.12-release should be fine 00:00 VanessaE (I think 0.4.11 will work too, not sure) 00:01 cimbakahn I have 0.4.9+repack-4ubuntu1 00:01 VanessaE that's gonna be too old 00:01 VanessaE use the daily-builds PPA 00:01 VanessaE https://launchpad.net/~minetestdevs/+archive/ubuntu/daily-builds 00:01 cimbakahn I have 4 ram 00:01 VanessaE 4GB is enough, barely. 00:02 VanessaE don't try to run HDX with that server ;) 00:02 aerth wait, servers can run HDX? 00:02 aerth i thought texture packs are all the client side 00:03 aerth and ubuntu PPA works on debian? 00:03 VanessaE well 00:03 VanessaE a server CAN run a texture pack yes 00:03 VanessaE but I meant don't try to use it on your client with that server 00:03 aerth oh if you are playing and serving at the same time from the same machine 00:03 VanessaE 4GB isn't enough then 00:03 VanessaE the PPA should work on debian, but you could always compile it too :) 00:04 aerth make .deb ? 00:05 cimbakahn I am on Linux Mint 17 Qiana Xfce 64bit. 00:05 VanessaE aerth: there are compile instructions in the README that comes with minetest sources 00:06 VanessaE not sure about using a PPA with Mint. never tried it 00:06 aerth i been compiling it from source. thank you 00:06 VanessaE oh ok 00:06 VanessaE I never know who does what anymore :P 00:07 cimbakahn VanessaE. I installed your texture pack for that house and it made the world look strange, so i wasn't able to build said house. 00:08 VanessaE define "strange" 00:08 aerth very sharp edges ? 00:09 cimbakahn I will see if i can get a screenshot. 00:12 cimbakahn Having problems. BRB 00:13 aerth he is saving the world 00:19 Guest1985 I need help, this mese block made my toaster mad and turned me into a tortilla! 00:20 Guest1985 xD 00:51 cimbakahn VanessaE: Sorry! Are you still there? 00:51 cimbakahn http://imgur.com/WC2NUe3 00:51 cimbakahn There is the screenshoy. 00:51 cimbakahn screenshot 00:52 cimbakahn The texture pack took a long time to load. 00:53 cimbakahn Maybe it isn't too bad. Maybe if i had a more powerful computer with a decent graphics card it would look better. 00:55 Hirato lol 00:58 cimbakahn I bet almost all you guys and gals are on desktops. 01:03 cimbakahn Well anyhow. When i get all my work done (which should take a month) i'll be getting very serious about minetest. I'll see you all then. 01:45 hhh ,;;'( 01:45 hhh __ ,;;' \ 01:45 hhh /' '\'~~'~' \ /'\.) 01:45 hhh ,;( ) / | 01:45 hhh ,;' \ /-.,,( ) 01:45 hhh ) / ) / 01:45 hhh // || 01:45 hhh (_\ (_\ 01:46 Hirato what a monster, he exposed the horse's brains 01:47 UltimateNate Looks like an ASCSII fail to me, rather than a forehead les hourse. 01:47 UltimateNate horse* 01:48 Hirato consider using a fixed-width font for IRC :P 01:48 UltimateNate Hirato: I can see the horse fine. 01:48 Hirato lol 01:48 UltimateNate You see that thing in the first line? 01:48 Hirato yes, that's the top of its head taht flew away 01:48 UltimateNate It looks like the head. 01:49 UltimateNate ascii fail 01:49 Hirato so obviously it was perfectly cut off p.o 01:49 hhh ,;( ) / | 01:49 hhh ,;' \ /-.,,( ) 01:49 hhh ) / ) / 01:49 hhh // || 01:49 hhh (_\ (_\ 01:51 Hirato poor mutilated horsey :< 01:51 hhh (_\ (_\ 02:53 Inocudom Bye. 03:06 aerth how do i get better output on a server's fatal error? 03:07 aerth or better yet: how do i avoid fatal errors 03:39 aerth 404 @ http://minetest.org/clients.html 04:13 MinetestBot 02[git] 04kwolekr -> 03minetest/minetest: tests: Log exceptions thrown inside of unit tests 137919318 http://git.io/vOY3v (152015-07-31T23:30:25-04:00) 04:52 kaeza Greetings 04:57 aerth art bell live http://www.artbell.com/ 07:13 aerth voting mod 08:28 aerth i want to see what all the signs in the server 08:28 aerth where are the sign data located 08:51 Krock aerth, in the meta data of each sign node 09:17 CWz [off] VanessaE: you got a "hacker"/cheater on your server 09:19 CWz [off] VanessaE i think he is intentinally lagging the server 09:20 VanessaE who? 09:20 VanessaE [off] who is it? 09:20 CWz [off] w_laenger aka hybrid_dog 09:21 CWz [off] probably hybrid_dogs alias 09:21 VanessaE [off] on Realtest? 09:22 CWz [off] ve-basic 09:22 VanessaE [off] hm.. no, it seems fine to me. no lag at all 09:23 CWz [off] i took care of it 09:23 VanessaE [off] oh ok, what exactly happened? 09:23 VanessaE [off] lava/water fountain again? 09:23 CWz [off] yes 09:23 VanessaE [off] no surprise. I banned him once before for doing that. 09:24 CWz [off] he also used teleport hacks and possible block place/dig hacks 09:24 VanessaE [off] ban his ass. 09:24 CWz [off] did that 09:24 CWz [off] lagging stopped soon afterwards 09:25 CWz [off] but it took afew minutes for the ban to process 09:26 CWz [off] would like to get my hands on his IP to keep him off mine and deezl's servers 09:27 VanessaE [off] 2015-08-01 10:54:24: ACTION[ServerThread]: w_laenger [84.172.215.51] joins game. 09:27 CWz [off] thanks 09:27 VanessaE [off] ban him across all my servers. 09:32 VanessaE [off] /me checks the logs. 09:34 VanessaE [off] fuck it, I'm turning anti-cheat back on. 09:36 VanessaE ~tell cimbakahn the noisy appearance you saw in HDX is because you have mipmap and anisotropic filtering turned off. Turn them on in your Settings menu. 09:36 ShadowBot VanessaE: O.K. 09:42 Calinou I wish those were default :( 09:43 VanessaE should be easy enough to change the default 09:43 VanessaE but then again those settings look terrible to most people when using default textures. 09:46 Calinou nah, using mipmaps and anisotropy looks fine even with 16px textures 09:46 Calinou it's bilinear/trilinear filtering that makes those ugly 09:46 VanessaE nope 09:47 VanessaE some peoples' drivers interpret aniso as if it were some kind of generic bilinear filter. 09:47 VanessaE textures turn blurry up close with those drivers. 11:44 Calinou http://jatekos101.github.io/20euros/ 11:44 Calinou 2082 points 11:44 Calinou and I have a 2 Euro coin 12:11 CraigyDavi Anyone any good as resolving nil values? I get: transactor/init.lua:94: attempt to call field 'add' (a nil value) occasionally 12:11 CraigyDavi File at: https://github.com/CraigyDavi/Craig-Server_game/blob/92139ba/mods/industry_pack/transactor/init.lua#L94 12:12 CraigyDavi Maybe something like "if not add - then - return"? 12:13 cornernote where is transactor_transactions[tonode] defined ? 12:14 cornernote you could try... if transactor_transactions[tonode] then ... end 12:15 cornernote or... if transactor_transactions[tonode].add then ... end 12:15 CraigyDavi transactor_transactions = {} is defned at the top 12:15 cornernote you populate the table somewhere else ? 12:16 CraigyDavi Yep, here for example: https://github.com/CraigyDavi/Craig-Server_game/blob/92139ba6a3b5ec263bc05514f5f30a22426997e2/mods/industry_pack/transactor/factory.lua 12:16 cornernote ok, you already check that transactor_transactions[tonode] is set 12:16 cornernote then i'd go with the second one... if transactor_transactions[tonode].add then ... end 12:17 CraigyDavi Thanks, I'll try that! 12:17 cornernote im wondering how it could be set, but not have the add method 12:19 VanessaE Calinou: I died at 3143, with two 2-euro coins and several 10/20/50's 12:19 VanessaE s/'s/ cent/ 12:19 VanessaE also i hate that game. it's addictive. 12:19 VanessaE also it misses some obvious combinations, like 2+2+2+2+2 --> 10 12:20 VanessaE (but that's the 2-or-3 limit) 12:23 Calinou working on my pinball game... added a launcher 12:39 TBC_x VanessaE? 12:41 VanessaE hm? 12:41 TBC_x could you test #2980 ? That should fix one or two of your server crashes 12:41 VanessaE I better wait. 12:42 TBC_x It is pretty much trivial fix 12:50 TBC_x I will need new stacktraces with this commit because some of the memory corruption bugs in #2913 may be a result of the race condition that I fixed in #2980 13:08 Mrq Hi everyone, 13:09 Mrq I am looking for someone who uses minetest on linux 13:10 Amaz Mrq, what's the matter? 13:11 Mrq I think, I can not remove my installed version of minetest 13:12 Amaz How did you install it? 13:12 Mrq donwloaded and unzipped 13:13 TBC_x what does `uname -a` say when you type it in terminal? 13:13 Mrq in which directory? 13:13 TBC_x any 13:14 Mrq it says "Linux kai-Linux 3.13.0-61-generic #100-Ubuntu SMP Wed Jul 29 11:22:15 UTC 2015 i686 i686 i686 GNU/Linux" 13:15 Amaz If you just downloaded it and unzipped it, isn't it just a matter of deleting the directory/ies resulting from the unzip? 13:15 Mrq i tried that 13:15 TBC_x and what does it say? 13:16 Mrq but i could still find minetest in the lancher 13:16 Amaz Try sudo apt-get remove minetest 13:16 TBC_x how much familiar are you with linux? 13:17 Mrq @TBC_x not realy much 13:17 Calinou Mrq, re-clone Minetest git, then type "sudo make uninstall" 13:17 Calinou after doing cmake . 13:17 Mrq ok three people talking with me 13:17 TBC_x how do you install apps on your linux? 13:18 Mrq a bit much for mee in this thing 13:18 TBC_x do you download & unzip them? 13:18 Mrq mostly i install them from the software centre, but minetest not, because the latest version of minetest was nog available 13:18 TBC_x ok 13:20 Mrq Amaz, done 13:21 TBC_x there is also minetest ppa https://launchpad.net/~minetestdevs/+archive/ubuntu/stable 13:21 Mrq an ppa? 13:21 TBC_x https://launchpad.net/+help-soyuz/ppa-sources-list.html 13:22 TBC_x better than downloading a zip 13:22 Mrq like install software via the terminal? 13:23 Mrq sounds nice 13:23 Calinou the PPA is only for Ubuntu-based distros 13:23 Calinou do not use it on Debian 13:24 Mrq i use ubuntu 13:25 TBC_x Mrq, I suggest to learn using terminal 13:25 TBC_x after some time you hit a point, where you won't want to use anything else :) 13:27 Mrq ok i will give it a try 13:28 TBC_x but don't try to force it 13:28 Mrq Amaz, unfortunaitily, minetest is still available in the launcher 13:30 Amaz Mrq, 13:31 Amaz try what Calinou suggested. 13:31 Mrq ok thanks 13:32 Mrq Calinou, what do you mean exactly? First doing cmake, then re-clone Minetest git and then type "sudo make uninstall"? 13:34 Amaz Type this into a terminal: git clone https://github.com/minetest/minetest.git; cd minetest; cmake .; sudo make uninstall 13:34 TBC_x or try `find ~ -iname \*minetest\*.desktop` 13:34 Mrq yeah nice, three people talking to mee again 13:34 Mrq *mee 13:35 Mrq *me 13:35 TBC_x that is what I would do at this point 13:36 Mrq and delete everything what it finds? 13:36 TBC_x or just ls ~/.local/share/applications/ 13:36 TBC_x there may be something like minetest.desktop 13:37 TBC_x hmm 13:39 Calinou mrtux, yes 13:49 Calinou happy 4th birthday, forum account! 14:14 bluegreen what does "Subgame specified in default_game [minetest] is invalid. 14:14 bluegreen " mean? 15:15 Sketch2 ok, so FreshMiner1 is a troll 15:16 Sketch2 he set his home in my lab and wouldn't leave. kept coming back after I told him not to 15:16 Sketch2 kept pestering me after I asked him never to speak to me 15:17 Sketch2 and now he's starting $#!t on other servers, roping SirDerpingtun4 into it 15:17 Sketch2 giving SirDerp and ultimatum to add him to Skype 15:18 Sketch2 then telling him that he slit his wrist with a pen-knife 15:35 bluegreen Why not report him then? 15:35 bluegreen to a mod 15:35 bluegreen or admin 15:35 Sketch2 that's what I'm doing here 15:35 Sketch2 so everybody knows 15:36 bluegreen what server did it happen on 15:36 bluegreen tell the owner of the server 15:36 bluegreen or an admin on it 15:36 Sketch2 BlueLobster's Free4All - neither of them will tell me the other server 15:37 Sketch2 deezl's cool. he's hanging with his kids, so I'll tell him later 15:38 Sketch2 but as I say he's taking it to another unknown server, so this is my best option 16:27 UltimateNate lol 16:27 UltimateNate http://pastebin.com/yFTpCepv 16:27 UltimateNate Saying that link = banned in ##windows 16:27 UltimateNate I was even using proxies and spammed ##windows with that link xD 16:27 UltimateNate Until I got klined by sigyn 16:29 sfan5 are you the new markv 16:29 UltimateNate who? 16:30 sfan5 are you the new 16:30 UltimateNate Isn't that everyone? 16:30 sfan5 no 16:30 sfan5 it's only you 16:34 Sketch2 oh yeah, I'm making a bit of progress on my 'lil web-app that builds minetest objects for ya 16:34 Calinou UltimateNate is notorious for that, sfan5 16:35 UltimateNate Why thank you. 16:35 UltimateNate Proud to be. 16:37 sfan5 Calinou: i would not have guessed 16:37 sfan5 UltimateNate: so, why dont you go brag about your accomplishments somewhere else 16:37 sfan5 I'm sure other people will appreciate it 16:37 UltimateNate nah. 16:51 freelikegnu greetings 16:52 freelikegnu is it possible to change a biome after the map has been generated? 16:53 VanessaE yes but you will only see the change in newly-generated terrain 16:53 freelikegnu I created a world wih mg7 but there are no jungle or desert biomes it seems 16:53 aerth top of the mornin 16:53 VanessaE if you want to start the map over, just change the setting and then delete map.db or map.sqlite, whichever you have 16:54 freelikegnu I'd reather not start the map over 16:55 freelikegnu can you point me to a guide explaining how to change a biome in an existing world? 17:00 Sketch2 you can change the biome stats in your minetest.conf 17:08 freelikegnu so there is a jungles mgv7_spflags for mg7? 17:09 UltimateNate freebsd = free bullshit distro? 17:10 Calinou that's my joke, UltimateNate :( 17:10 UltimateNate lol, I just thought of that now. 17:13 freelikegnu I dont understand why I would have jungles in mg6 but not mg7? 17:19 Sketch2 I think you need to set temperature variations 17:19 Sketch2 they show up in warm humid areas 17:21 freelikegnu hmm 17:23 Sketch2 Noise parameters for biome API temperature, humidity and biome blend 17:24 freelikegnu cool 17:24 freelikegnu many thanks! 17:24 Amaz mgv7 and mgv5 only have 1 biome in minetest_game in 0.4.12. 17:24 Amaz Which is grass without trees. 17:24 freelikegnu I'm going to add the parameters from minetest.conf.example 17:25 Amaz They won't be any good if you're using minetest_game from before a few days ago without a biome mod. 17:25 Amaz https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/commit/84de5f0f40b6b16988b39ccf6e26f2403c00dfb7 17:26 freelikegnu oh wow 17:34 freelikegnu pulling changes and recompiling 17:37 Sketch2 ok, so as it turns out SirDerpingtun4 and FreshMiner1 are alternate acct's from the same IP: 64.45.254.134 18:34 kaeza Greetings 18:34 Sketch2 hiya kaeza 18:38 freelikegnu yeah the new biomes work well with carbone :D 18:39 freelikegnu carbone-ng and mapgen 7 :D 18:40 freelikegnu I hope carbone-ng is updated with the new default, flowers and stairs mods from minetest_game 18:42 MinetestBot 02[git] 04est31 -> 03minetest/minetest: Android: Add githash header to spare rebuilds after new commits 13c39a85a http://git.io/vOsse (152015-08-01T20:42:07+02:00) 18:48 MinetestBot 02[git] 04t0suj4 -> 03minetest/minetest: src/environment.cpp: Fix NULL pointer dereference 1367997af http://git.io/vOsZY (152015-08-01T20:44:18+02:00) 18:48 MinetestBot 02[git] 04t0suj4 -> 03minetest/minetest: src/network/connection.h: Fix race condition 1379e2647 http://git.io/vOsZ3 (152015-08-01T20:44:17+02:00) 18:59 Calinou shouldn't be too hard 19:06 VanessaE hey, kaeza 19:10 est31 oh, seems android is vulnerable to heartbleed 19:12 VanessaE oh great. 19:12 VanessaE I thought that had been fixed pretty much everywhere already? 19:13 est31 oh 19:13 est31 seems we arent vulnerable 19:13 est31 we use 1.0.1l 19:13 est31 that isnt vulnerable 19:14 sfan5 we don't even use TLS 19:18 sfan5 !server players:most 19:18 MinetestBot sfan5: just test | 87.110.8.195 | Clients: 36/78, 26/36 | Version: 0.4.12-dev / minetest | Ping: 33ms 19:42 Out`Of`Control what could cause server to appear twice on psl? 20:07 bluegreen Out`Of`Control 20:07 bluegreen the list not refreshing? 20:08 bluegreen reloaded the list in a few minutes 20:08 bluegreen also someone could create a server with the same name 20:09 bluegreen to steel login info 20:09 Out`Of`Control bluegreen: now its good, both was my url 20:09 bluegreen Is the ip the same? 20:09 y how is it going wild people 20:09 sfan5 y pls 20:09 Out`Of`Control same domain 20:09 * y throws a pokeball at mewtwo 20:09 y I mean, sfan5 20:09 * sfan5 purrrs 20:09 sfan5 rrrrrr 20:09 bluegreen and port? 20:10 bluegreen maybe be your running two servers or something 20:10 bluegreen ;) 20:11 y apparently nobody here is wild :< 20:19 Out`Of`Control bluegreen: i run one server, only it crashed 20:19 Out`Of`Control hehe 20:22 aerth i'd like to remove lava from -300 depth and up. is this function already implemented ? 20:22 VanessaE kaeza: do we store signs_lib's entities in the map? 20:22 aerth :D 20:24 VanessaE aerth: not really, no. you could write an ABM that replaces lava with air if the target is above -300 20:24 aerth thats the one 20:24 aerth thank you VanessaE 20:24 VanessaE or you could make your own mapgen and make it only place lava below 300 (or maybe the default mapgen can ge tweaked) 20:24 aerth no its for greivers 20:24 VanessaE ok 20:24 aerth no fire mod, no lava above 300 :D 20:25 VanessaE bear in mind some people like to make lava fountains, moats, and the like 20:25 VanessaE so maybe make the lava bucket just not work if it's above -300 20:25 VanessaE that's a better plan I think 20:25 aerth thanks 20:25 VanessaE then you can pass lava sources to trusted players as needed 20:35 kaeza VanessaE, hm? 20:35 kaeza VanessaE, nope. they get created via ABM IIRC 20:36 kaeza and unloaded when deactivated 20:36 * kaeza checks 20:37 kaeza also, hi :P 20:37 VanessaE hi 20:37 VanessaE well I meant are they stored statically 20:37 VanessaE but ok 20:37 VanessaE reason I ask is oftentimes, an area will load with the signs' entities turned around backwards or at a right-angle to the sign. 20:38 VanessaE I assumed this was an engine bug that could be worked around by never storing the entities at all 20:40 kaeza when a text entity is re-activated, it loads the metadata of the node at its position and sets its text ( https://github.com/VanessaE/homedecor_modpack/blob/master/signs_lib/init.lua#L830 ) 20:40 VanessaE ok 20:40 kaeza but there's no code that sets the entity's yaw; it assumes the engine keeps that value 20:41 VanessaE ok. that should probably be reset on_activate then 20:42 kaeza the only code that sets yaw is update_sign (which is called by on_punch and on node placing) 23:05 aerth what about an update mods and whatnot without kicking users? like -- PAUSED FOR UPDATE -- 23:06 est31 aerth, you can shut your server down with an optional re-join message 23:06 est31 the users will get a button "rejoin" 23:06 est31 you can say "please reconnect in 5 minutes" 23:06 est31 just write a custom mod for it :) 23:07 aerth Woah 23:07 aerth im new to Lua. 23:07 aerth thanks though 23:09 aerth seems like an auto rejoin would be possible then 23:10 est31 just call minetest.shutdown accordingly 23:26 MinetestBot 02[git] 04kwolekr -> 03minetest/minetest: Clean up util/serialization.{cpp,h} and add unit tests 13bf991bd http://git.io/vOGEW (152015-08-01T19:24:46-04:00)