Time  Nick           Message
00:04 bb94           screw it est31 I gave you a link
00:42 Sketch2        Mine5
00:43 Sketch2        trying to get there anyway
02:14 Sketch2        Calinou's Hungry Games is great!
02:50 Sketch2        man that's cool.  wish you could run a bit faster
03:53 asl97          Sketch2: movement_speed_fast
03:55 Sketch2        ty, I meant on the server he's got running.  I can't change that, only on a local copy.
04:28 swift110-phone Hey
04:32 Sokomine       hi
04:39 LazyJ          Howdy, Sokomine ;)
04:39 LazyJ          What's the news on the corrupted player files caused by the replacement function?
04:39 LazyJ          I see the Issue is still active and listed as a bug.
04:40 LazyJ          Are servers still crashing or is it just the usual Minetest gremlins?
04:41 LazyJ          And any relief from the heat on your side of the globe?
04:50 Sokomine       i'm sorry. i don't know. vanessae had the same bug...perhaps she can help
04:50 LazyJ          Ah. Ok, thanks ;)
04:51 Sokomine       there was mostly some intresting discussion today regarding a diffrent drawtype for leaves as far as i understood it - which may bring better fps for the fancy leaves
04:51 LazyJ          They're not going back to the plantlike drawtype for leaves, are they?
04:52 LazyJ          Those don't look so good from high or aerial views and screenshots.
07:18 MinetestBot    02[git] 04kwolekr -> 03minetest/minetest: Clean-up Minimap code 13e234d8b http://git.io/vq2VA (152015-07-08T01:50:31-04:00)
08:08 rubenwardy     Hi all!
08:19 MinetestBot    02[git] 04est31 -> 03minetest/minetest: Use UTF-8 instead of narrow 13b0784ba http://git.io/vq27I (152015-07-08T10:12:44+02:00)
09:11 arsdragonfly   well is there a way i can access servers.minetest.net using IP address
09:11 arsdragonfly   the DNS services here seems to be having some trouble
09:13 est31          the ip is 151.236.29.36
09:13 est31          but that wont help
09:14 VanessaE       arsdragonfly: use a different DNS server or put it in your hosts file
09:14 rubenwardy     damn, too slow
09:14 VanessaE       (I use 8.8.8.8)
09:14 asl97          arsdragonfly: i doubt it, i think it might be using vhost,  you can edit the host file on your computer for a temporary fix
09:14 VanessaE       (google's DNS.  4.2.2.5 is verizon)
09:15 Calinou        8.8.8.8 is evil :)
09:15 VanessaE       maybe but it's easy to remember :)
09:16 Calinou        - IPv4: 80.67.169.12
09:16 Calinou        - IPv6: 2001:910:800::12
09:16 Calinou        this is the FDN DNS
09:16 VanessaE       FDN?
09:16 Calinou        a non-profit French ISP, that focuses on ethics
09:16 VanessaE       oh ok
09:16 Calinou        they claim to not censor anything and such
09:22 MinetestBot    02[git] 04RealBadAngel -> 03minetest/minetest: Add new leaves style - simple (glasslike drawtype) 1339439cb http://git.io/vqatE (152015-07-08T11:20:07+02:00)
09:23 Calinou        nice to have more leaves settings
09:24 RealBadAngel   for it to be complete mt game needs update
09:24 RealBadAngel   with a bit more dense leaves textures
09:33 est31          and simple too
09:33 est31          err minimal
09:35 RealBadAngel   yup
09:35 RealBadAngel   but i do need textures in the first place
10:14 TheWild        I noticed that some of 4aiman repositories just got missing (were available month ago), specifically 4aimobs, 4air, 4hunger, 4itemnames, 4items, 4mcac, beds, enchantment, ghosts, magichet, mc. Do you know, was that important suff or rather something I should not care about?
10:15 Calinou        not really, I've never used those mods or found them good or useful :P
10:16 rubenwardy     He's closed sourced them
10:16 rubenwardy     I wouldn't care about them
10:16 rubenwardy     1. there are better mods. 2. they are basically copying minecraft features relentlessly
10:20 TheWild        okay, thanks for the info
10:20 TheWild        I'm curious why he closed-sourced them.
10:20 rubenwardy     welcome
10:20 rubenwardy     He's crazy
10:21 rubenwardy     jokes, some people made android ports with his subgame
10:21 rubenwardy     and he didn't like that
10:21 VanessaE       selfishness, plus isn't .luac supposed to be forbidden soon?
10:22 Calinou        it already is forbidden in Mod Releases, but there is no such policy in WIP Mods
10:22 Amaz           Isn't .luac not allowed if mod security is enabled?
10:23 asl97          VanessaE: iirc, not really forbidden, just restricted, correct me if i am wrong.
10:23 VanessaE       Calinou: I mean forbidden/restricted by the engine
10:24 VanessaE       in any case it may as well be blacklisted.  most users aren't gonna fuck around with config files just to make a mod run (they'll just complain instead)
10:26 Amaz           If .luac is lua bytecode, then once mod security is enabled by default, it won't work.
10:26 Amaz           https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/1606
10:26 VanessaE       yeah, it's bytecode
10:27 VanessaE       precompiled lua.
10:31 Calinou        it doesn't bring any performance improvement
10:32 Calinou        just like .pyc
10:33 CWz            [off] It amuses me to see player scream "f**k this server" because they are too damn lazy or stupid to read signs. No offense .
10:33 Calinou        make a mod that auto-kicks them when they say so :)
10:33 mazal          Seriously how hard can it be to read signs
10:35 mazal          I visted a few servers that have the interact mod , and I have yet to see one where it is not clear and easy to see what to do
10:40 CWz            [off] the keyword_interact mod is just simple. The issues is clearly laziness or ignorance  on the player's part. I wonder how they get though pokemon or anyother rpg
10:41 exio4          :D https://github.com/EXio4/devil
10:42 CWz            It's never a good idea to invite daemon to your home....
10:42 exio4          heh
10:43 CWz            They tend to be real lousy house guests
10:43 exio4          which command was the tell one? !tell +tell ~tell?
10:43 exio4          in this channel/bot
10:44 VanessaE       ~tell <foo> <message>
10:44 exio4          thanks
10:45 CWz            hey VanessaE, did cheapie tell you about his contribution to the keyword mod?
10:45 VanessaE       yep
10:45 VanessaE       we discussed it and then be made that PR
10:45 VanessaE       did you see the bit about hooking into kaeza's /notice mod?
10:46 VanessaE       (depends on kaeza adding an appropriate hook)
10:48 CWz            yes. but notice is just a formspec. i probably could figure out how to add one to the mod.
10:48 VanessaE       I suggested copying/pasting kaeza's code ( https://github.com/kaeza/minetest-kaeza_misc/blob/master/notice/init.lua ) but cheapie figured it would be better to interface with the existing mod.
10:49 VanessaE       his idea is better imho
10:51 CWz            ok
10:56 CWz            hmm maybe after he does that, i could fork the notice mod and add some pre"recorded" messages to so admins will not have to suffer fingers strain just to type the same messages over and over again.
10:56 VanessaE       nahg
10:56 VanessaE       nah*
10:56 VanessaE       we have the bot for that
10:57 VanessaE       actually on second thought
10:57 VanessaE       that might be useful
10:58 VanessaE       players have a bad habit of ignoring the bot's messages
10:58 CWz            yeah but nobody pays attention to the bot in chat. while a notice could make the badplayers soil their tidy whiteys
10:58 VanessaE       lol
11:11 * CWz          doesn't understand how notice mod works.
12:18 Calinou        https://github.com/Splizard/hungry_games
12:18 Calinou        now has Markdown readme!
12:19 exio4          Calinou: did you see the project I worked on yesterday?
12:19 exio4          https://github.com/EXio4/devil
12:19 Calinou        yes
12:19 exio4          what do you think about it :P
12:20 Calinou        doesn't that exist already?
12:21 exio4          probably, if you can link me to an existing tool, I'll check it
12:21 Calinou        maybe https://duckduckgo.com/?q=linux+daemon+manager is a start
12:22 Calinou        https://mmonit.com/monit/ too
12:26 exio4          nice
12:28 exio4          Calinou: re: linux daemon manager, most daemon managers aim for wider targets :p, this thing is meant to as a normal user
12:45 twoelk         hi greenman_ mind discussing some wiki stuff?
15:34 sfan5          huh https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/3chwxi/there_is_no_new_microsoft_under_nadella_patent/csvyj4k
15:37 Calinou        :D
16:54 kaeza          Greetings
16:54 xenkey         Greetings earthling
16:57 kaeza          hope you don't bring any headcrabs with you
16:57 kaeza          <_<
17:14 * exio4        pokes kaeza
17:16 exio4          kaeza: check https://github.com/EXio4/devil ! :p
17:43 kaeza          exio4, looks nice
17:45 kaeza          but you shouldn't be using `dofile` and `getglobal` every time. you should probably make the daemon scripts return a table with methods, call them once at init (or perhaps also via some kind of reload function), and using `getfield` on the returned tabes
17:45 kaeza          +l
17:46 kaeza          still nice (and unreadable mess that is Haskell :P)
17:46 exio4          kaeza: yeah, I just quickly wrote code until I got something that compiled and run
17:46 exio4          anyway, way, dofile every time?
17:47 exio4          it's only getglobal that's repeated, the file is loaded once at `startup time` (when starting the threads)
17:48 kaeza          oops, I read it wrong. you're running each daemon in its own Lua state
17:48 exio4          yeah
18:09 MinetestBot    02[git] 04kilbith -> 03minetest/minetest_game: Convert stairs in meshnode 13f3f8b22 http://git.io/vqrDG (152015-07-08T19:07:22+01:00)
18:27 paramat        sloantothebone, you need to fix something, the channels are being spammed
18:55 twoelk         sloantothebone: you might to disable autoreconnect
18:55 twoelk         *need to
19:01 jemu           hi, what is the correct method to setup ipv6 for the minetest server? my current config file is here http://pastebin.com/fqfgBre0
19:01 jemu           i know that it used to work, but i had to restart my server today and now it only binds to ipv4 "20:57:05: ACTION[main]: Server for gameid="minetest" listening on 0.0.0.0:30000."
19:19 sloantothebone Calinou did you do any modifications to the 3d armor and the weildview mods for carbone?
19:25 Calinou        I added gold armor before it was cool
19:25 Calinou        wieldview has more item transformations done
19:30 ThatGraemeGuy  anyone know offhand if using --info and/or --verbose switches for minetestserver also increase the mount of info going into the file specified by --logfile? or do they only increase the amount of info printed to the console?
19:51 jemu           i found the problem, minetestserver was reading the wrong config file, now ipv6 works fine :)
20:11 sloantothebone Hello, I'm trying to run a minetest server how do I do port forwarding for my isp and not my router
20:13 sloantothebone I've already done port forwarding for my router
20:14 sloantothebone but I still cant connect with my public ip
20:15 Calinou        sloantothebone, you can't connect with your external IP to a PC on your local network
20:15 Calinou        you must connect with localhost or 127.0.0.1
20:16 sloantothebone Calinou, can somebody else connect to me with my public ip?
20:35 LinuxGuy2020   Is there any way to issue a command or some other way that i can add a mod to my server and then have the server pick it up or restart and most importantly have all the clients reconnect automatically?
20:36 LinuxGuy2020   ive been collecting them recently. it gets annoying to the clients to have to reconnect every time.
20:37 Calinou        no, there's no possibility of automatic reconnection currently
20:37 LinuxGuy2020   ok
20:44 LinuxGuy2020   How about if I am on someone elses server, is there any way to get a copy of one of there mods onto my machine?
20:45 LinuxGuy2020   Instead of searching through the forums?
20:48 Calinou        of their mods? nope
20:48 Calinou        of their world? yes, enable_local_map_saving = true IIRC
20:48 Calinou        you can get the mod media from the cache though
20:53 LinuxGuy2020   Calinou: mod media from cache? You mean the mod is copied locally and I can copy it from there?
20:54 Calinou        no, only the media, not its code
20:54 Calinou        its code runs server-side, akin to a PHP script
20:54 LinuxGuy2020   ok
20:55 LinuxGuy2020   Calinou: If I do the enable_local_map_saving = true does that add the map to my worlds folder?
20:55 Calinou        yes, only visited areas though
20:56 LinuxGuy2020   Calinou: Cool so thats kinda of a workaround to copy cool builds from other servers then?
20:56 Calinou        yes
20:56 dv-            does anyone build minetest git on ubuntu?
20:56 LinuxGuy2020   Calinou:  Woohoo thank you
20:57 Calinou        dv-, I'm on Debian and I build it, yes
20:58 dv-            Calinou: do you get all of the dependencies from debian repos?
20:58 Calinou        yes, easily
20:58 Calinou        it is possible since always
20:58 Calinou        we support even Ubuntu 12.04, we don't use C++11 due to that by the way
20:58 dv-            i'm getting linking errors wrt freetype
20:59 Calinou        pastebin a log
21:00 dv-            http://pastebin.com/nXT2jrCe
21:01 Calinou        what Ubuntu version do you use? did you install the development headers?
21:01 dv-            15.04, yes
21:13 dv-            oh it was finding the wrong freetype
21:13 dv-            the one i was using for crosscompiling to windows
21:29 LinuxGuy2020   Whats the ebst way to learn the pipeworks parts and what each does? I looked for a youtube video and I dont see any off hand.
21:29 LinuxGuy2020   ANy tutorials anywhere?
21:45 Calinou        8 players on my Hunger Games server
21:46 MinetestBot    02[git] 04paramat -> 03minetest/minetest: Biome API decorations: 'spawnby' searches a 3D neighbourhood 13b517381 http://git.io/vqKOs (152015-07-08T22:44:10+01:00)
21:56 exio4          C++11 made C++ a decent-ish language
22:31 kilbith        est31, there seems to have a problem with launchpad, build for 15.04 is not updated anymore since today
22:32 * Sokomine     secretly throws a bunch of breads into the cage on calinou's hunger server
22:32 est31          Sokomine, you have to sponsor
22:34 kilbith        est31 : https://launchpad.net/~minetestdevs/+archive/ubuntu/daily-builds
22:34 est31          kilbith, I'm on it
22:34 kilbith        distro builds are async or no longer works
22:34 est31          if you know how to get an error message, it would be goo
22:34 est31          d
22:35 kilbith        also it's possible to have a build every 12h for testing quicker new toys ? :)
22:35 kilbith        (for those that are lazy to compile)
22:36 est31          kilbith, unfortunately, no
22:36 est31          the options are "daily" and "manually"
22:36 est31          ah I see now
22:36 est31          "failed to build"
22:36 kilbith        est31, every builds logged here : https://launchpad.net/~minetestdevs/+archive/ubuntu/daily-builds/+builds?build_state=built
22:37 kilbith        then click on "buildlog" on each of them
22:37 est31          https://launchpadlibrarian.net/211127904/buildlog.txt.gz
22:37 est31          kilbith, those are only the non-error ones
22:37 kilbith        you sure ?
22:38 kilbith        latest one : https://launchpadlibrarian.net/211019783/buildlog_ubuntu-vivid-amd64.minetest_201507071831-0~3923~ubuntu15.04.1_BUILDING.txt.gz
22:39 est31          I clicked on "build now" it should try again
22:39 est31          I guess this is some temporary downtime issue
22:40 kilbith        same went for 13.10 and 12.10 (but doesnt care of them)
22:40 est31          12.10 isnt even supported anymore
22:41 est31          its no lts is it
22:41 kilbith        so don't build for them ;)
23:02 kilbith        est31, i tested weblate earlier (updated all french bits) but there's no equivalent to the updatepo that refreshes all new strings in the .po file
23:03 est31          kilbith, that has to be done manually I guess.
23:03 kilbith        you can't do that on the weblate platform
23:06 kilbith        no, apparently you can't put new lines
23:07 est31          yea, I don't really know yet how to maintain that thing
23:07 est31          also I wonder how I can make weblate avoid "commit noise"
23:09 kilbith        *shrugs*
23:26 LinuxGuy2020   If you have unified inventory installed is there a way to list all nodes from a certain mod only?
23:27 LinuxGuy2020   nodes/blocks whatever you want to call them
23:34 kaeza          could wait for at least 10 minutes...
23:54 MinetestBot    02[git] 04kaeza -> 03minetest/minetest: Windows: Fix some warnings. 1313e100e http://git.io/vqKHK (152015-07-09T01:52:28+02:00)