Time Nick Message 01:49 MinetestBot 02[git] 04RealBadAngel -> 03minetest/minetest: Add minimap feature 13ffd16e3 http://git.io/vt42N (152015-06-27T03:42:01+02:00) 02:01 Sokomine hi oOChainLynxOo :-) 02:40 MinetestBot 02[git] 04paramat -> 03minetest/minetest: Mgv5/mgv7 caves: Remove sand found in underground tunnels 1336163d9 http://git.io/vt4Km (152015-06-27T03:36:40+01:00) 02:45 technomancy according to the lua_api.txt docs, putting ${foo} in a formspec makes it retrieve foo from node metadata and interpolate it 02:45 technomancy however, that doesn't work when I try it here: https://github.com/technomancy/calandria/blob/master/editor.lua#L4 02:45 technomancy any idea why not? 06:44 Jbb I think the forum is down again 06:46 VanessaE works for me 06:56 Jbb Oh i have an error "302" found ngirx 06:56 asl97 lol, your browser is broken 06:56 Jbb Ok 06:56 Jbb But other sites work 06:57 asl97 302 should be a redirect 06:57 Jbb Im using duckduckgo browsrr on android at the moment 06:57 VanessaE works fine in chromium and firefox. 06:57 VanessaE I didn't know DDG had their own browser. 06:57 VanessaE DDG is a search engine,. 06:57 Jbb later i'll try itnwith my pc 06:58 Jbb But therr is a browser too 06:58 Jbb In fdroid 06:58 Jbb Its a search app with fsst browser 07:00 Jbb I'll try lightning 07:00 Jbb You are right lightning works 07:01 Jbb But with ddg search widged forum.minetest.org worked 07:03 Jbb Whats the difference both use phpBB 07:04 VanessaE "search app with [...] browser"... you DO realize you can just search from within a browser anyway, right? 07:04 VanessaE including the standard one Android comes with (Chrome) 07:05 asl97 iirc, stock android doesn't come with chrome, it comes with a crappy buggy browser 07:06 VanessaE it comes with chrome./ 07:06 VanessaE at least my Galaxy S4 did. 07:14 est31 until recently, chromium for android wasnt fully open source 07:14 est31 dunno whether AOSP includes a browser 07:15 est31 http://mobile.slashdot.org/story/15/05/22/1722217 07:15 est31 100k lines 07:15 est31 more than minetest 07:15 est31 i think 07:16 Calinou 18<19est3118> until recently, chromium for android wasnt fully open source 07:17 Calinou I've installed Chromium for Android and it's BS 07:17 VanessaE est31: your presence is needed on Trepca. 07:17 Calinou 1. no add-ons? how do I block ads without rooting... 07:17 Calinou 2. search engines? can't choose DuckDuckGo, can't remove the defaults 07:17 Calinou (even iOS has DuckDuckGo now) 07:17 technomancy aosp has a browser, but I don't think it gets security updates 07:17 technomancy it's really bad 07:18 Calinou thankfully some phone vendors don't even put AOSP browser anymore 07:18 Calinou http://blog.html5test.com/2014/07/the-android-browser/ 07:22 asl97 est31: 149427 lines 07:23 asl97 commit 4c9a8a91c 07:27 est31 wow quite alot 07:35 Calinou a lot* 07:48 technomancy cloc puts minetest at 117kloc, but I think that includes its bundled copy of lua 07:48 technomancy probably irrlicht too? 07:48 est31 yea 07:48 est31 no 07:48 est31 irrlicht is separate 07:49 est31 not copied yet 07:49 est31 perhaps will be, in future 09:00 Figec hi all 09:00 Figec what you think about https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/2838 ? 10:11 TheWild Calinou, https://github.com/beyondlimits/moreblocks/commits/master 10:11 TheWild my last 4 commits. What do you think about it? 10:40 peetaur Hi. A few questions... with a dedicated server, how do you load mods? and after placing a furnace, how do you remove it? 10:43 peetaur do I make a directory in ~/.minetest/mods named the same as the world? I don't know what gameid is. 10:56 Calinou TheWild, see my comments :P 10:56 Calinou I'll remove sawless recipes of slopes as they don't make much sense, yeah 10:56 Calinou you can send a pull request 10:56 Calinou I'll fix it later 11:17 TheWild Calinou: There are more than one things done. Should it be in single pull request? 11:18 TheWild I've no idea how to title it properly and not confuse others 11:54 luizrpgluiz hi 12:01 Nihao Hello, protectors of the cubes :) 12:02 Nihao Here an issue we got on all servers: loss of resources during exchange. Seen recently using Barter Table. 12:02 Nihao http://pastebin.com/awvFdh14 12:03 Nihao Sometimes, it seems to add resources, too. But in that case, people tend to complain less. 12:03 Nihao Seems this can appear on chests, too. 12:06 Nihao Does anybody know about this problem or have some idea on how to fix it? 12:07 Nihao OK, it does not make the server crash, but it is quite annoying, nevertheless. 12:10 TheWild f**k, I hate github 12:10 TheWild how to cancel a pull request? 12:12 technomancy TheWild: there's a "Close Pull Request" button at the bottom 12:13 TheWild but will it be left in "closed pull request"? 12:14 technomancy yes 12:15 TheWild :( 12:17 technomancy I think you can delete the branch it references if there's anything embarrassing in it 12:18 TheWild well, my current problem is that I've touched few parts of the mod. I wanted to make pull request, but had no idea for a good title for all of them. 12:19 TheWild I wanted to take single commits and make pull requests for each for them, but forgot to type which commit I want in it and took all of them accidentally. 12:20 TheWild can the repo owner kick this out without a trace? 12:24 TheWild ^ no way, I read that. 13:00 TheWild Calinou, sorry but I'm just helpless. Finished with no pull request. You may see my changes and take them, but I won't waste more time trying to split the commits into different branches and playing with that unintuitive git. 13:00 * TheWild went back to his own projects 13:42 Xack hey Calinou 14:10 Xack VanessaE: hi? 14:32 technomancy how do you get the current value of a formspec field without on_receive_fields? 14:32 technomancy I want to update a formspec without blowing away in-process input 14:33 est31 I think there is no way 14:33 est31 but im not sure 14:33 technomancy ._. 15:30 technomancy hmm... I think I might be ready for an 0.1.0 release 15:30 technomancy https://github.com/technomancy/calandria documentation still needs work, but the basics are all in place 15:37 technomancy http://p.hagelb.org/unix.jpg 16:55 LinuxGuy2020 Hi guys I figured out how to run a dedicated server. However I would love to know how to keep it running in the background. When I manually start it in a terminal window then close the window, it stops the server. Whats the proper way to start the server? 16:55 LinuxGuy2020 On Linux Mint 16:55 LinuxGuy2020 I tried adding & to the end but that doesnt work apparently. 16:56 ElectronLibre Use the command line to run the server. 16:57 ElectronLibre Look for a binary file called "minetestserver", and its option. Then, launch `minetestserver & disown` and you should be able to close the terminal window. If you want to keep it open, you can. 16:57 LinuxGuy2020 Yeah but when I do that it hogs the terminal. Nothing else can be done after it. 16:57 ElectronLibre s/option/options 16:58 ElectronLibre Try to use a pipe to redirect logs then. 17:00 LinuxGuy2020 ok 17:01 ElectronLibre I've got to go, if you have any questions I can ensure you that a lot of people will be able to answer them. 17:01 VanessaE tip: Ctrl-D to close the terminal after using & on a process. 17:01 VanessaE then you don't have to worry about the terminal killing the process on the way out. 17:01 ElectronLibre VanessaE, it's the equivalent of disown && exit. 17:02 LinuxGuy2020 Ok I got it 17:02 VanessaE yep 17:02 LinuxGuy2020 The & works fine. It just wasnt updating my terminal prompt so I assumed it wasnt working. Stupid me. Thanks guys 17:07 Calinou hi Xack, finished chess tournament 17:08 Xack :) 17:46 MinetestBot 02[git] 04est31 -> 03minetest/minetest: Remove busy polling inside minimap thread 13420125d http://git.io/vt0m4 (152015-06-27T19:20:25+02:00) 18:07 red-001 how can i get connected players in c++ 18:10 RealBadAngel red-001, client.cpp line 1490 18:10 red-001 thanks 18:13 peetaur the wiki seems broken.... when editing anonymously it says "please select just the cat photos in the box below" but there is no box below. And when registering there is no confirmation code anywhere, but submitting the form has an error saying such a code is missing. 18:13 Krock peetaur, request an account 18:13 Krock see forums 18:17 Calinou peetaur, you can send me an IRC /msg with your e-mail address and desired username 18:21 peetaur Calinou: thanks, it works... I was on dev.minetest.net before which seems to have duplicate stuff and different login. :/ 18:21 Calinou yes, it uses different accounts 18:24 ThatGraemeGuy http://i.imgur.com/qvKW99P.png, anyone know what that error message is all about? get this from time to time and FPS drops to 0 and I pretty much have to quit 18:25 red-001 what is wrong with this code 18:25 red-001 minetest.register_on_shutdown(function() 18:25 red-001 for _,player in ipairs(minetest.get_connected_players()) do 18:25 red-001 local name = player:get_player_name() 18:25 red-001 core.kick_player(name,'server shutting down.') 18:25 red-001 end 18:27 VanessaE red1: next time use a pastebin; there's already a kick-all-players mod. 18:27 Calinou http://paste.ubuntu.com (or the new encrypted trendy thing, https://up1.ca) 18:28 VanessaE wtf is the point of encryption for a pastebin?? 18:28 Calinou host not being liable for content 18:28 VanessaE eh 18:28 VanessaE DMCA already covers that (if hosted in the US) 18:28 VanessaE "safe harbor" provision. 18:29 VanessaE plus there's already some case law in the US and a few other places backing that up 18:29 VanessaE but I get your point. 18:29 VanessaE meanwhile, your exams are over. fix the models in moreblocks ;) 18:30 peetaur wtf is the point of a non-encrypted pastebin? ;) 18:30 Calinou I had a chess tournament today, was quite exhausting :P 18:30 Calinou tomorrow is Sunday though 18:30 VanessaE ok that's a bullshit excuse to be proud of :D 18:31 VanessaE peetaur: encryption takes extra resources that are not always best-spent on encryption :P 18:33 Calinou on pastes it's tiny 18:33 red1 well so people have too much resources 18:33 VanessaE encrypt where it makes sense, not where it doesn't. that's all I'm saying. 18:34 VanessaE only the paranoid insist on encrypting *everything* :P 18:35 Calinou https://github.com/amq/firefox-debloat 18:44 peetaur that's why I just do it and suggest it rather than insisting ;) 18:50 VanessaE heh 18:55 xenkey Hi 18:56 xenkey I'm just wondering, what are the minimum requirements for a server? 18:56 xenkey I mean of course it will run on a 90s Jornada but what specs do I need to make the players... happy 18:57 Trixar_za Depends on the amount of players and how you optimize the the server 18:58 VanessaE xenkey: a low-end CPU in the 1-2 GHz range, 1-2 GB of RAM, a fast disk, a fast network pipe 18:58 VanessaE that's about all you need, and you can run a few light-weight servers on that. 18:58 xenkey Okay 18:58 xenkey If we go backwards; how many players will a 4 core 2.6GHz 1GB RAM Xeon hold? 18:59 xenkey Oh yeah it's gigabit too 18:59 asl97 minetest only use one core iirc 18:59 asl97 or did that change? 19:00 Krock xenkey, 1 GiB is not much.. maybe 3 or 4 19:00 xenkey I think there can be more than one emerge thread handling map generation 19:00 xenkey Krock: It's 1 or 0.5 :P 19:00 CWz my server has 2.33 pentium D, 1GB ram and 120GB HDD 19:00 asl97 xenkey: that cause buggy cave iirc 19:00 xenkey CWz: How many players do you have on a regular basis? 19:00 Trixar_za I've run a server on less 19:00 CWz 0 19:00 xenkey asl97: Not much of a problem imo 19:00 Krock xenkey, huh? The minetest server here only uses about 50 MiB RAM 19:01 Trixar_za Should be fine for about 10-40 players 19:01 xenkey Krock: Then how is 1GB not enough lol 19:01 asl97 xenkey: it depend on the world size and version of the minetestserver 19:02 asl97 if it's the old server which load every player files, 1gb wouldn't be enough iirc 19:02 Krock xenkey, my server has a minimalistic setup. It heavily depends on the active blocks settings and activated mods 19:02 xenkey I ran a server on a 4 core ARM box once and it reached the top of the server list (sort of), wondering if I should go again 19:02 Krock so how do you think it's 1 or just 0.5? 19:02 xenkey Krock: You'd have to put some effort into finding a server with only 50MB RAM 19:03 xenkey I have servers with 1GB and 512MB 19:03 Krock xenkey, minetest-server, not the complete server. 19:03 xenkey huh 19:03 asl97 krock said the server process use about 50 mib 19:04 Krock ^ 19:04 xenkey yeah 19:04 xenkey 18<22Krock> so how do you think it's 1 or just 0.5? 19:04 xenkey With those I meant the RAM of my machines 19:04 xenkey Not my estimate on the usage 19:04 Krock ooh, I thought you were talking about the amount of servers 19:05 xenkey Oh another thing 19:05 xenkey It runs FreeBSD, is that an issue? 19:05 Krock It's an issue when you can't get a compiled version for it :P 19:05 asl97 ^ 19:06 xenkey "Minetest has never been more secure" 19:07 Krock yay! Let's create a game with lots of security issues, then realease each month an even more secure version! 19:07 Krock *release 19:07 Trixar_za Using this: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=1825 I created a pretty lightweight server 19:08 Trixar_za wb xenkey 19:08 xenkey I hate when my SSH sessions get interrupted 19:09 xenkey Maybe it's time to reinstall this BSD box 19:09 xenkey and... recompile the kernel 19:09 xenkey no 19:09 asl97 ssh lag, mosh is better but buggy at times 19:17 Calinou only the paranoid insist on encrypting *everything* :P 19:17 Calinou I think we should encrypt all the things (no meme intended), because it's the only way stuff can be secure; without it, nothing is really secure 19:17 Calinou it is of course an ecological disaster, but better have that and save the world's privacy 19:19 VanessaE yeah but sometimes "secure" is useless 19:19 VanessaE why be "secure" with a publicly-searchable pastebin? 19:19 VanessaE now ont he other hand login credentials, bank stuff, and anything else that implies a private exchange should be encrypted for sure 19:19 Calinou I guess up1.ca is not indexed by search engines (and that's a good thing I'd say, pastebins should not be indexed unless author says so) 19:20 VanessaE (and the strongest encryption that's practical, too) 19:20 Calinou I wish lichess.org was encrypted, I can't stand my chess moves not being encrypted! :D 19:20 VanessaE haha 19:20 Calinou stuff like "Bf4 c6 Nc3" is way too much information 19:23 * xenkey peeps in 19:29 xenkey minetest-0.4.12 is the version on the repo :D 19:30 xenkey I mean you really can't beat this https://sr.ht/38e2.png 19:36 DusXMT xenkey: That's a pretty cozy configuration utility... Is that from a BSD's ports? 19:36 xenkey DusXMT: Yep, standard /usr/ports on FreeBSD 19:59 xenkey Wow I love FreeBSD https://sr.ht/b02d.png 20:05 Calinou >2015 >game security 20:06 xenkey really 20:07 xenkey i thought it was 1901 20:14 xenkey So here's the biggie 20:14 xenkey Does anyone want to start a server with me? 20:15 xenkey I've done this before and it's a hell of a lot of work with a one man staff team 20:16 xenkey I have the old world here but I don't think it's a good idea to upload 500MB on a connection like mine :P 20:16 xenkey Dayumn 160MB debug.txt 20:16 asl97 you don't need to transferthe debug.txt 20:17 xenkey Yeah I know 20:17 xenkey I was just saying 160MB is big 20:17 xenkey I'll upload the conf and the game 20:17 xenkey Seems cool 20:18 asl97 i know it's lots of hard work, i started one not that long ago and lost interest in it :P 20:18 Cryterion You should connect to IRC, helps with monitoring when you not in-game 20:19 asl97 i am doing it the old landrush way 20:20 xenkey BitX server 20:20 xenkey How does that sound 20:20 Cryterion I just went way the areas mod, sometimes need to help players understand the setup, but it works well 20:20 Cryterion BitX? 20:20 xenkey BitX. 20:21 Cryterion ?? 20:21 xenkey Like bit (data unit) and X (executable) 20:21 asl97 name of the server i am guessing 20:21 asl97 xenkey: if you want help with starting it, i could help, although, no promise on maintaining it 20:21 xenkey Well yeah duh 20:21 xenkey Alriht 20:21 xenkey Two man staff team is a plus already 20:21 xenkey 2289 player info files 20:21 xenkey woah 20:22 Cryterion Yeah it is 20:22 Calinou call your server "BSD fan club" 20:22 xenkey lol 20:23 Cryterion If you using an old map, I'd say you would need to keep old player info 20:23 xenkey http://psycho.space/p/6Ef2 20:24 daswort Do we have a server system requirements thread in the forum? 20:24 Krock [off] xenkey, interesting URL.. I've got one for you: http://www.wwwdotcom.com/ 20:24 xenkey ... 20:25 xenkey Now turn off your computer and go outside. 20:25 xenkey Now turn off your compNow turn off your computer and go outside. uter and go outside. 20:25 asl97 daswort: most computer can run a server well enough, uplink is the main thing 20:25 xenkey I don't have a computer 20:25 xenkey Good job this baby has gigabit 20:25 Krock ah no? 20:25 Krock and that's not a computer? 20:26 xenkey So before i go love 20:26 xenkey live 20:26 xenkey What mods should I add 20:26 Cryterion Most computers will, it's dependant on your inet connection speeds 20:26 Krock xenkey, boost_cart ! 20:27 xenkey Uh how do I get a mod list 20:27 Calinou name_restrictions, very important 20:27 Calinou https://github.com/ShadowNinja/name_restrictions 20:27 asl97 xenkey: you should make sure you get all the mods you want in before starting, once started, the mod used is more or less set 20:27 Calinou Krock, pisto.horse 20:27 Calinou best domain I've seen yet 20:27 xenkey Ah thanks Calinou 20:28 Krock Calinou, great one :) 20:28 Calinou xenkey, and of course: More Blocks 20:28 Calinou and Map TOols 20:28 Calinou Map Tools* 20:29 xenkey Got that one 20:29 Cryterion I started my server off with the dreambuilder game, some mods added and some varied a bit 20:29 xenkey I got a modified maptools 20:29 daswort I know that a raspberrypi can run the binary of MT-server. But how much traffic, bandwidth and CPU power does one need for a server with mods and player. E.g. LibertyLands has Player and Mods but also a huge lag problem. 20:29 Krock mesecons, pipeworks, technic. 20:30 daswort See their graphs: http://grafana.ayntest.net/#/dashboard/file/minetest.json 20:30 asl97 my server bottleneck is the network 20:31 Cryterion you'll need a high speed inet connection, std ADSL is not fast enough 20:31 Krock best is a 1 GBit fiber connection 20:31 Cryterion Cryt-Servival runs on a VPS with an ISP and we still get lag 20:31 Calinou daswort, bandwidth: 0.1 Mb/s down+up per player 20:32 Calinou be sure to tune settings 20:32 Cryterion within* 20:32 xenkey went from 30MB to 7.6MB 20:33 Cryterion your ISP might limit your bandwidth 20:33 xenkey they don't 20:33 asl97 Cryterion: you need to know if it's network lag or cpu lag 20:33 xenkey lol 7.0MB exactly 20:34 xenkey sounds good to me 20:35 daswort MB or MiB? xenkey 20:36 peetaur what would cause a client to hang when connecting saying "item definitions..."? It happens when my brother (win8) tries to connect to my server (linux) with lots of mods enabled, but doesn't happen if he runs the server locally (windows), or if I connect with other clients here (all linux), or if there are fewer mods enabled. It looks like here except our versions match 0.4.12 https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=10844& 20:36 peetaur hilit=item+definitions 20:36 xenkey both 20:37 asl97 peetaur: just wait for it to load, the more mod the slower thee joining is 20:37 daswort xenkey, does not compute. 20:37 peetaur asl97: with n mods, it takes like 5s, and with n+1 mods, it takes many minutes 20:38 asl97 daswort: does it matter? it's only 24kib differents between 1mb and 1mib 20:38 daswort Does someone have some Traffic numbers of his/her server for me? 20:38 xenkey ... 20:38 peetaur asl97: with many mods plus load_mod_farming_plus = true, it is random whether it connects or not; with all mods enabled, he can never connect no matter how long he waits 20:38 asl97 peetaur: that is cause it need to download the textures, sound and other stuffs from the server that isn't already downloaded 20:39 daswort asl97, it always™ matters. But not really no. 20:39 peetaur asl97: looking in iftop on linux, I could see him downloading things slowly ... 400 kB/s for a while, and then it stops completely after a while 20:40 asl97 then it enter the texture/mesh making step, disabling the preload stuff usally helps 20:40 asl97 usually* 20:40 peetaur would we see cpu usage during that point? 20:40 asl97 ether that or it lost connection 20:40 asl97 lol 20:40 xenkey i skinned the minetest game so much 20:40 xenkey no wool, dye, vessels 20:41 xenkey but we have moreblocks and darkage 20:41 asl97 you can always pass him all the mods and start a world with it so all the stuff would be cache 20:41 xenkey and i hope no crafting conflicts 20:41 asl97 on his client 20:41 xenkey or her 20:41 Krock vessels... who needs those? homedecor, what else? 20:41 peetaur asl97: well, one of our tests was for me to send him the whole world and mods, and he already did that 20:42 xenkey dont have homedecor 20:42 peetaur asl97: also, with load_mod_farming_plus enabled, it is random whether it works or not... he can have success one time, then failure the next 20:42 asl97 in that case, i blame windows xD 20:42 xenkey XP 20:42 xenkey you mean X{ 20:42 xenkey XP 20:42 daswort xenkey, xdecore is nice and small. 20:42 xenkey Oo 20:42 xenkey I'd read the forums more often but 20:43 xenkey You know since we moved from PunBB IT'S BEEN IMPOSSIBLE 20:43 Krock Theory is when it doesn't work but you know why. Practice is when it works and you don't know why. When you use both, then it doesn't work and you don't know why. 20:44 Krock (as an answer to Guest44606's quit message) 20:45 asl97 hmmm, the preload setting is no longer shown in the setting... 20:46 boonscape3 Is Vanesse's server back on yet? 20:46 daswort xenkey, do you prefer this new forum software? (i forgot the name) → http://community.badvoltage.org/ 20:47 xenkey no 20:47 xenkey I really liked PunBB 20:47 xenkey This one is too messy 20:47 Calinou PunBB was not responsive 20:47 Calinou use Discourse or NodeBB 20:47 xenkey Which mapgen version should I use 20:47 daswort I prefer fluxbb. And i really hope they release version 2 but hey, it is only 20.000 years! 20:47 Calinou that Bad Voltage thing is exactly Discourse 20:47 daswort oh right Discourse is the name. 20:48 boonscape3 I am waiting for vanessaE's creative server to come online 20:48 VanessaE it IS online 20:48 VanessaE I restarted it 20:48 VanessaE didn't you see the msg? 20:48 daswort oh wow: http://fluxbb.org/forums/viewtopic.php?id=8282 20:48 boonscape3 I saw it 20:49 xenkey Now fluxbb i like 20:49 asl97 xenkey: it depend on the mods you use 20:50 boonscape3 I may have left a message in the Mine DOT complaint box which was a thank you note intended for lolman 20:50 daswort http://discuss.flarum.org/ 20:51 xenkey ugh 20:51 xenkey it won't write to debug.txt 20:53 boonscape3 I am having an issue where I would log in to VanessaE's creative server an the connection would drop causing the map not to load 20:53 asl97 xenkey: you are using minetest-skins? 20:53 xenkey no 20:53 boonscape3 Its whatever mods I get when I login to the server 20:53 VanessaE boonscape3: everyone has that problem 20:53 VanessaE you don't "get" any mods 20:54 VanessaE minetest keeps all mods on the server. 20:54 VanessaE it's a combination of a network bug and a player handling bug in the engine 20:54 xenkey https://sr.ht/d8fd.png 20:54 xenkey really 20:54 xenkey really though 20:54 VanessaE xenkey: cute 20:54 boonscape3 ok 20:54 xenkey VanessaE: this is the icon on the front page 20:54 VanessaE boonscape3: just keep trying and you will eventually get in 20:55 VanessaE xenkey: oh yes, I see it. 20:55 xenkey Yeah 20:55 boonscape3 Ok I got in but the connection just dropped on me again 20:55 xenkey I'll just go and update some mods then go live 20:55 asl97 xenkey: didn't you post http://psycho.space/p/6Ef2 ? minetest-skins is stated in it 20:56 xenkey asl97: I deleted a _lot_ of crap 21:01 xenkey https://sr.ht/6a91.png 21:01 xenkey but there's no debug.txt 21:03 asl97 it should be somewhere 21:03 asl97 you can pass a path for the debug.txt to the minetest command and try to reproduce the error again if you can't find it 21:04 xenkey http://pastie.org/10262203 21:05 xenkey groups = {bendy=2,dig_immediate=2,attached_node=1,connect_to_raillike=minetest.raillike_group("rail")}, this is the referenced line 21:05 asl97 your default mod should be outdated or something 21:06 asl97 there is no minetest.raillike_group 21:11 xenkey i just downloaded it 21:12 xenkey https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/blob/master/mods/default/nodes.lua#L1538 21:13 asl97 oh, your minetest version is outdated 21:13 asl97 that is the dev minetest_game 21:13 xenkey hooray 21:13 asl97 it was added on May 12 21:14 asl97 you need to use release minetest_game or dev minetest 21:15 xenkey Ugh 21:16 xenkey fun 21:16 asl97 yay fun 21:33 xenkey Okay I'm about to finalize my modpack 21:58 Polsaker xenkey, what's the modpack about? 21:58 xenkey Just a pack for my server 22:15 xenkey Hi 22:17 Jordach two months later, and forgetting that I still have a MT server 22:17 Jordach [23:17:30] Server has been running for 1423:44:05 22:18 xenkey lol 22:18 xenkey i play on it and still forget about its existence 22:22 * Jordach simulates some fluid 22:22 Jordach i have an experiment to test 22:23 Jordach YESS 22:23 Jordach it works :DDDDDDDDDDDDD 22:29 * xenkey also runs an experiment 22:35 xenkey http://pastie.org/10262282 does this look okay? 22:36 asl97 isn't it a new server without anything build yet? 22:36 xenkey yes 22:36 asl97 i wouldn't announce it so soon though 22:36 xenkey it doesn't show up in the list 22:36 asl97 oh 22:37 asl97 i though `server_announce = 1` put it on the server list? 22:38 xenkey apparently not 22:42 xenkey why do i always manage to break things 22:42 xenkey so it segfaults when i change a line 22:44 xenkey http://psycho.space/p/OWmW 22:51 xenkey any ideas why it's not showing up in the server list? 22:57 Taoki https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=5524&p=182938#p182938 Structures mod finally supports multiple road systems per town / city. 23:00 VanessaE Taoki: are they MineDOT compliant? :) 23:01 Taoki MineDOT? 23:01 VanessaE ask cheapie :D 23:01 VanessaE they don't appear to be ;) 23:01 xenkey bitx.pw is now running 23:01 Taoki Not something I heard of before, so probably not :) Unless that's some game... it should be because they adapt to any terrain 23:01 Taoki Ah 23:01 xenkey A nice 4 core 1GB RAM FreeBSD server with 50GB of disk, LevelDB world 23:02 xenkey Hope that didn't sound like me showing off 23:02 VanessaE Taoki: it's what cheapie calls his fictional road management firm on the servers :) 23:03 VanessaE DOT = Department of Transportation 23:03 Taoki Ah... nice :) 23:03 xenkey But it still won't report to the server list