Time Nick Message 00:21 tranquilliam Hi, does anyone have the default stone texture? 00:22 asl97 check the default game textures folder 00:22 tranquilliam Ah, thanks. 00:22 asl97 default mod* 01:21 tranquilliam Does anyone know how to code a new machine in technic? Basically what I want is a machine that uses electricity to convert one thing into another. 03:30 asl97 there is a memory leak in the NodeBoxEditor :( 08:12 technomancy it looks like if you use player-level form callbacks, there's no way to get the position of the node that contained the form; is that correct? 08:13 fling Which modpack to use for minecraft-like game? 08:13 technomancy fling: I like Carbone the best, but it's definitely not a straight clone 08:14 fling technomancy: no, carbone is too different. 08:14 technomancy I know there are some modpacks of various levels of completion that try to do a strict clone, but I don't know which is the most polished. 08:14 fling technomancy: thanks for the info 08:15 technomancy de gustibus non est disputantum, &c 08:16 kahrl technomancy: http://rubenwardy.com/minetest_modding_book/chapters/formspecs.html#contexts 08:17 technomancy kahrl: ooooh perfect; thanks 08:17 asl97 fling: modpack isn't really the thing you should look for, you should look for a game, for example: minitest 08:17 asl97 https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=2589 08:18 technomancy kahrl: oh, huh. yeah I can't believe I didn't think of that. =) 08:18 technomancy I guess as long as you can assume no other coroutine or handler runs in between minetest.show_formspec and the handler function this is safe 08:18 technomancy I'm used to writing code for a truly concurrent environment where that is extremely problematic 08:20 technomancy oh... actually yeah that won't work 08:20 kahrl it can still be problematic if there is a lot of lag, for example, yeah 08:20 technomancy code does run in between showing the formspec and the form callback being called 08:21 technomancy kahrl: not just lag; if you leave the form open for a long time and another player opens the same form on a different node 08:21 technomancy they'll overwrite your entry in the context table 08:22 kahrl it shouldn't if the index into the context table is the player name 08:22 technomancy oh, quite right 08:22 technomancy any given player can only open a single form at a time 08:22 technomancy I thought "name" here meant the form name 08:25 kahrl if lag turns out to be a problem you can use "hidden" formspec fields (usually done by adding pre-filled fields at out-of-bounds coordinates so they are invisible) 08:25 technomancy hah; I was just looking through the code for a "hidden" input type 08:25 technomancy I guess that's one way to do it 08:25 kahrl but be aware that any client could spoof these fields 08:25 technomancy sure; of course 08:36 technomancy hm... looks like smartfs doesn't pass player info along into the click handlers; damn 08:46 technomancy hm; the book is also pretty misleading about node meta formspecs 08:46 technomancy it says you don't get callbacks, but you get more detailed callbacks that way than with the one it recommends 08:47 technomancy is the source to the book available for pull requests? 08:47 technomancy guess I should wait for rubenwardy to sign on 08:48 twoelk isn't it on github? 08:49 technomancy twoelk: oh yeah, I was expecting a link in the footer, but it's in the introduction 08:49 technomancy to the githubs! 08:52 technomancy hm, https://github.com/rubenwardy/minetest_modding_book/issues/17 seems to indicate the book is going away 08:53 twoelk well I did just recently added categories to the dev-wiki version 08:55 technomancy I wonder if I can just use smartfs to generate the formspec string without buying into its weird callback system 08:56 twoelk you may want to add to the book here -> http://dev.minetest.net/Category:Modding_Book 08:56 technomancy I was going to correct an inaccuracy on the formspec chapter 08:56 technomancy but it looks like it hasn't been ported over yet 09:24 JamesTait Good morning all; happy Friday, and happy Chocolate Pudding Day! 😃 09:49 twoelk ChocolatePudding? rather - eat fish day - ;-P 10:23 Calinou I'm pushing textures I made to GitHub 10:29 iqual Calinou: which textures? 10:29 Calinou https://github.com/Calinou/seamless-textures 10:29 Calinou (not up yet) 10:29 iqual btw is there some better way of vcs-ing binary data then just putting them in git? 10:29 iqual oh, hey, gotta test if minetest runs on this pc^^ 10:30 iqual wish me luck 10:30 Calinou you can use git-lfs 10:30 Calinou (it's something developed by GitHub) 10:32 Calinou it's uploaded now 10:33 iqual eh 11:50 iqual c_content.cpp:1229:1: Warnung: »virtual const c8* irr::scene::IBoneSceneNode::getBoneName() const« ist veraltet [-Wdeprecated-declarations] 11:50 iqual lots of these 13:59 technomancy is there an inside joke behind the malformed letters in the minetest logo? 14:00 technomancy trying to think of a reason why it hasn't been fixed 14:00 sfan5 what do you mean 14:00 est31 ^ 14:01 technomancy it just looks like someone chopped off 70 pixels from the bottom or something 14:02 technomancy the bottom horizontal segments of the Es and the S are too small, like it got cropped by accident 14:02 sfan5 how about a screenshot 14:03 technomancy http://www.distrogeeks.com/software/open-source-games/minetest/ 14:04 sfan5 looks fine to me 14:04 est31 technomancy, thats a font feature I guess 14:04 technomancy ok, so that's intentional? 14:04 est31 shrug 14:04 est31 dunno 14:05 est31 but I guess its ok 14:51 CWz I wonder if it is possible to implement the minetest protocol in minecraft forge 14:51 CWz not that is worth doing or anything 14:52 CWz we defiantly don't need minecraft noobs here was well 14:52 sfan5 why would you do that 15:10 Yellowberry Hi all. 15:19 Yellowberry Hello RBA 15:33 technomancy anyone have an example of a formspec table containing regular fields? 15:33 technomancy can't seem to get anything to render just by working from the docs 15:40 est31 regular fields? 15:44 technomancy just misunderstood what these containers are for... I need support for an arbitrary number of fields, but I realized I just need to make it happen with a bunch of string mangling 15:45 technomancy I will stop grumbling about formspecs now 15:45 technomancy I mean, for today 15:45 est31 hehe 15:46 julienrat_ Hi all ! 15:46 julienrat_ is there a way to run minetest on raspberrypi2 without lags 15:47 julienrat_ i have tried different releases but its always lags 15:48 technomancy julienrat_: client, server, or both? 15:48 julienrat_ client 15:48 technomancy good question 15:48 technomancy I only have a pi1 =( 16:04 technomancy sweet, got my DNS server semi-working 16:04 technomancy for diginet 16:22 nolsen About to go live on twitch.tv/theu1timat3gamer/ 16:23 nolsen I wonder what game should I do. 16:23 nolsen Minecraft, Minetest, or MLP CIM 16:23 nolsen Or Skyrim, or SP: The Stick of Truth 16:25 proller freeminer ! 16:27 Yellowberry no. 16:27 Yellowberry Minetest 16:27 Krock minetest cla- ehm - voxelands! 16:32 Calinou nolsen, what does the C mean in MLP CIM? 16:33 est31 mlp has a game? 16:35 sfan5 why wouldn't it? 16:35 Calinou marine le pen 16:36 est31 I've thought he referred to my little pony 16:36 est31 and not that french right politician 16:38 Calinou was a joke :P 16:38 Calinou MLP means both Marine Le Pen and My Little Pony 16:39 Yellowberry Calinou: I assume nolsen was talking about My Little Pony: Containment is Magic, a mod for SCP: Containment Breach. 16:39 Yellowberry But I can't be sure 16:45 nolsen Yellowberry: Survey says.. 16:45 nolsen YES 16:45 nolsen My Little Pony: Containment is Magic. 16:46 nolsen A game that makes me shit bricks 16:46 Yellowberry ou can actually run it without it shitting itself every 2 seconds? 16:46 Yellowberry *you 16:47 nolsen It was a figurement of speech 16:47 Yellowberry I know 16:47 Yellowberry all the games based off of SCB:CB are EXTREMELY unstable 16:47 Yellowberry they crash all the time 16:47 nolsen I'm live now 16:47 nolsen http://www.twitch.tv/theu1timat3gamer/ 16:47 nolsen Minetest 16:48 nolsen Shit, It's behind 16:49 nolsen 1Mbit/s 16:49 nolsen does anyone see lag? 16:50 nolsen I need to go wired, hold on 16:50 Calinou #YetAnotherSteamWatchedBy-1People 16:51 nolsen That happens to new channel 16:51 nolsen or channels that doesn't stream alot 16:51 nolsen I tried going a better area that has a better wireless connection. 16:52 nolsen Calinou: Perhaps twitch isn't popular anymore. 16:52 Calinou live streaming is probably a fad 16:52 nolsen wtf 16:52 nolsen I'm getting 40Mbps download 16:52 nolsen but I'm getting 1Mbit bitstream 16:52 Calinou Rarity is stealing all your bandwidth! 16:52 nolsen 50Mbps download, 4Mbps upload. 16:53 Yellowberry lol 16:53 nolsen Why would the whore steal my bandwidth? 16:53 Yellowberry Who knows 16:55 nolsen Oh I see why, The bitrate was set to 1000 16:56 nolsen does anyone see an improvement? 16:56 nolsen Video taking a bit to load 16:56 nolsen I also have to use DirectX for minetest because it doesn't work with OpenGL :( 16:57 Yellowberry What software you using? 16:57 Calinou use Open Broadcaster Software 16:57 Calinou or SimpleScreenRecorder 16:57 Yellowberry exactly what I was about to say 16:57 Yellowberry OBS is the way to go 16:57 nolsen That is what I'm using 16:57 nolsen There is still lag. 16:57 nolsen ammit 16:58 nolsen Is 4000kb/s not enough? 16:58 nolsen My upload speed is only 4Mbps 16:58 est31 I guess you wont get it lag-free 16:58 Yellowberry What is your screen resolution? 16:58 est31 HLS isn't designed to be light speed 16:58 nolsen 1366x768 16:59 nolsen Well not everyone has a high upload speed 16:59 Calinou nolsen is an HPB, that's all 16:59 nolsen 4Mbps upload speed is the average upload speed. 16:59 nolsen Calinou: I'm a health promotion board? 17:00 Calinou high ping bastard 17:00 nolsen oh 17:00 nolsen Well nothing I can do about it. 17:00 nolsen I have a decent internet connection. 17:00 nolsen It's just twitch 17:01 nolsen Nobody has 10Mbps upload in the US 17:01 nolsen on residential 17:02 nolsen If only. charter stop sucking dick and increase the upload speed. 17:02 nolsen erm if only* 17:03 Yellowberry get fiber 17:03 Yellowberry also, google has 1gbps 17:03 Calinou fiber is only in the US currently 17:03 Calinou (the Google Fiber) 17:03 Calinou also, it spies on you :-) 17:03 nolsen lol 17:04 nolsen Does it look like fiber is in TN? 17:04 nolsen Calinou: Don't be an idiot. 17:04 nolsen Yellowberry: Perhaps you should think before you say something. 17:04 est31 very very sad google took over the free wifi network for NYC 17:04 nolsen google is the best. 17:04 nolsen I love google. 17:05 nolsen There's only 2 ISP providers in my area. 17:05 nolsen Charter, and AT&T 17:05 Calinou internet service providers providers! 17:06 nolsen There is another provider, but that isn't really better. 17:07 nolsen 50Mbps download, and 5Mbps upload. 17:07 nolsen Compared to mine, which is 60Mbps, and 4Mbps upload. 17:07 nolsen I won't have faster download. 17:07 Calinou I have ADSL here. 11 Mb/s down, 1 Mb/s up 17:07 nolsen So you're an HPB? 17:07 Calinou when I can get 4G, I get 30 Mb/s download... 17:07 Calinou latency != throughput :) 17:07 Calinou anyway, yeah, kind of, my best ping is 60 ms 17:08 nolsen Well I'm not an HPB 17:08 Calinou I rarely get < 50 ms 17:08 Calinou LPB is < 50 ms usually 17:08 Calinou (low ping bastard) 17:08 nolsen 46ms 17:08 nolsen the lower, the better right? 17:08 Calinou yes 17:08 est31 13.895 ms to google 17:08 Calinou ~45ms here 17:09 nolsen 265ms 17:09 nolsen not bad. 17:09 nolsen but I'm on wireless. 17:09 est31 at my university, I can even get 6 ms 17:10 nolsen I get bad internet in my room. 17:10 sfan5 64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_seq=5 ttl=48 time=16.3 ms 17:10 nolsen not even 30Mbps 17:10 sfan5 lol 17:10 sfan5 <nolsen18> not even 30Mbps 17:10 sfan5 all i have is 11mbps 17:10 nolsen my ping is 38ms now 17:10 est31 --- 8.8.8.8 ping statistics --- 17:10 est31 12 packets transmitted, 12 received, 0% packet loss, time 11017ms 17:10 est31 rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 13.884/15.588/20.978/1.942 ms 17:10 nolsen because I'm close to the router. 17:11 nolsen Switching to wired now 17:12 nolsen Ugh I think this wired cable is bad, hold on 17:14 nolsen 38ms ping to google 17:14 nolsen erm 35ms minimum ping 17:15 nolsen That's not a bad ping 17:16 Yellowberry I get 57ms average. 17:16 Krock Tried to send a ping to nolsen.. failed. 17:16 Yellowberry but then again, I am on wifi and listening to spotify 17:16 nolsen Krock: What IP? 17:16 nolsen You don't even know my IP 17:16 Yellowberry nolsen: You can ping through IRC 17:16 Krock nolsen, no idea. I used the command /ctcp ping 17:16 nolsen Oh 17:16 nolsen I blocked CTCPs 17:17 nolsen here 17:17 nolsen try now 17:17 CWz i to block ctcps 17:17 Krock - is in +g mode (server-side ignore.) (nolsen) 17:18 nolsen Try now 17:18 Krock - is in +g mode (server-side ignore.) (nolsen) 17:18 nolsen Try now 17:18 Krock oops 17:18 nolsen lol 17:18 Krock 796 ms 17:18 nolsen You have shitty internet 17:19 nolsen also, My client is bounced. 17:19 nolsen erm redirected 17:19 nolsen to a ZNC 17:19 Krock yea.. pinging myself returns 370ms 17:19 Krock but IRC doesn't need a faster ping 17:19 Krock even 1s is acceptable 17:22 nolsen Krock: You mean 1000ms? 17:22 Krock no, I mean 1000000 us 17:23 nolsen Krock: You mean 1000ms? 17:23 nolsen 1ms is the best 17:23 nolsen 1000 is the worst 17:25 Krock The two under lines can't be quotes 17:26 Yellowberry I get 3600ms to this one Xonotic server 17:27 nolsen I'm probably a LPB 17:27 nolsen :D 17:27 nolsen All of you are HPB 17:28 Yellowberry Well, i'm on wifi 17:31 nolsen I can't select Skyrim's window D: 17:31 nolsen for OBS 17:31 nolsen Maybe I need to window it 17:31 Yellowberry Are you using the new one or the old one? 17:32 nolsen what you mean? 17:32 Yellowberry They have 2 versions of OBS 17:32 nolsen have no clue 17:33 Yellowberry the one that is windows only (the old one) or the one that is multi-platform (the new one) 17:33 Yellowberry go check your version number 17:35 nolsen v0.651b 17:35 Yellowberry irr is such a pain to work with 17:35 Yellowberry Ok, so you have the old version 17:35 nolsen Though I can't play skyrim because MY PS3 CONTROLLER IS DEAD 17:35 Yellowberry NUUUUUUUUUU 17:36 Yellowberry #wired 17:39 nolsen Found the charger :D 17:39 nolsen well usb cable 17:43 nolsen I actually have the latest for OBS 17:43 nolsen Multiplatform needs to be compiled for windows 17:48 nolsen Installing mirshia 17:48 * nolsen ** SysInfo ** Client: HexChat 2.10.2 (x64) ** OS: Microsoft Windows 8.1 ** CPU: AMD A4-6210 APU with AMD Radeon R3 Graphics (1.00 GHz) ** RAM: 3512 MB Total (1307 MB Free) ** VGA: AMD Radeon(TM) R3 Graphics ** Uptime: 23.09 Hours ** 17:48 nolsen Hopefully they'll work on these decent specs. 17:49 Calinou lol Radeon R3 17:49 Calinou lol AMD A4 17:52 Yellowberry Hey 17:52 Yellowberry I'm back 17:53 nolsen Calinou: lol typing 17:53 Yellowberry my computer's GPU killed itself 17:53 nolsen lol toaster 17:53 nolsen lol everything 17:53 * nolsen is being stupid as Calinou 17:53 Yellowberry mmm toast 17:53 nolsen Yellowberry: Check out my specs 17:53 * nolsen ** SysInfo ** Client: HexChat 2.10.2 (x64) ** OS: Microsoft Windows 8.1 ** CPU: AMD A4-6210 APU with AMD Radeon R3 Graphics (1.00 GHz) ** RAM: 3512 MB Total (1303 MB Free) ** VGA: AMD Radeon(TM) R3 Graphics ** Uptime: 23.16 Hours ** 17:53 nolsen decent. 17:53 Yellowberry yeah, they are 17:54 nolsen Calinou is just being an idiot. 17:54 Yellowberry s/8.1/10 TP/ 17:54 nolsen Not my computer 17:54 nolsen I want to get rid of windows 17:55 Yellowberry nolsen: What is your weapon of choice? 17:55 nolsen weapon? 17:55 Yellowberry I favor Arch Linux for it's flexibility. 17:56 nolsen lubuntu/ubuntu, debian 17:57 Yellowberry nolsen: https://xkcd.com/797/ 17:58 nolsen www.twitch.tv/theu1timat3gamer 18:01 Yellowberry says your offline 18:01 Yellowberry nvm 18:02 nolsen fucking hell 18:02 nolsen capture the screen 18:04 nolsen It's repeating itself 18:04 Yellowberry It's black on my end 18:05 TheWild what an action on the tv 18:06 nolsen See something? 18:06 TheWild yup! 18:06 Yellowberry yeah, I see it too 18:06 TheWild right now, before there was a black screen 18:07 Yellowberry no mouse movements, however 18:08 nolsen Yellowberry: Now? 18:08 Yellowberry yep 18:09 nolsen My controller isn't working ._. 18:11 Yellowberry nolsen: Let me know when you get it working 18:12 nolsen Working now 18:12 nolsen heh 18:13 nolsen game closed 18:13 nolsen game keeps crashing 18:14 Yellowberry It still says you are playing minetest :P 18:14 nolsen What the hell 18:14 nolsen keeps crashing 18:15 Yellowberry is unstable game 18:15 nolsen Maybe I can try south park the stick of truth 18:18 Yellowberry hey 18:18 Yellowberry nolsen: it's black 18:18 nolsen What about now? 18:18 Yellowberry good now 18:20 Yellowberry i died 18:20 Yellowberry *it 18:20 nolsen Game frozed ._. 18:20 nolsen I hate to logout 18:20 nolsen Because I couldn't escape 18:21 nolsen s/hate/had 18:21 Yellowberry sucks 18:22 nolsen Yellowberry: What about now? 18:22 Yellowberry loading 18:24 Yellowberry I thought away nicks aren't allowed... 18:25 nolsen Game crashed...again 18:30 nolsen Yellowberry: Try now 18:30 nolsen Unturned I'm trying 18:30 Yellowberry loading 18:39 nolsen Yellowberry: How is it now? 18:39 Yellowberry hold on, I closed it 18:40 nolsen Oh 18:40 nolsen nvm 18:40 nolsen I closed it 18:40 nolsen last game I haven't tried is Minetest 18:41 nolsen and Minecraft 18:48 nolsen Now streaming minetest. 18:49 nolsen twitch.tv/theu1timat3gamer/ 19:06 nolsen Actually, It's MLF CIM, not MLP CIM 19:06 nolsen My Little Foundation: Containment is Magic 19:09 nolsen I think I should do a Let Plays with voice 19:10 nolsen Because I just screamed 10 seconds ag. 19:10 nolsen ago* 19:10 nolsen Fucking hell, Pinkie. 19:14 Krock http://eelslap.com/ 20:04 oOChainLynxOo Wow, a lot's happened since last I've been here 20:12 oOChainLynxOo Is the forum down? 20:12 oOChainLynxOo I'm getting an error DNS_PROBE_FINISHED_NXDOMAIN 20:12 est31 works for me 20:12 oOChainLynxOo Must be my end then 20:13 oOChainLynxOo Huh 20:13 oOChainLynxOo Works fine now 20:50 nolsen I love Google Chrome metro :3 20:51 nolsen metro style* 20:51 nolsen erm Windows 8 style. 20:51 nolsen It feels like Chrome OS. 20:51 nolsen If I had the money, I would get me a chromebook :3 21:21 est31 I guess you can install chrome os already now 21:24 H-H-H hey does anyone remember a mod that made it so raw food spoilt if it was not put in a fridge 21:24 H-H-H iirc it worked withe the friges in the homedecor mod 21:47 oOChainLynxOo Sokomine 21:47 oOChainLynxOo :D 22:31 wlan2 #minetest-es is kind of deserted. 22:35 wlan2 When I copy text from gnome-terminal and try to yank it into minetest, gnome-terminal just silently dies. 22:37 wlan2 Also, is there a way for the numopad to behave as a numpad in minetest instead of as arrow keys? it is kind of annoying to copy a world seed by hand WITHOUT being able to use the numpad for it. 22:39 est31 both are irrlicht bugs 22:40 est31 jasper wanted to fork it 22:40 est31 both bugs are known though 22:47 FreeFull At one point someone started rewriting Minetest in Java, but I don't think that project is alive now 22:47 wlan2 In the wiki main page, the freenode webchat link for the spanish channel is incorrect, lacks one character. 22:48 wlan2 It links to ~minetest-es instead of ##minetest-es 22:49 wlan2 Wait, minetest in Java? I don't think Lua scripts are very fast inside a jvm. 22:53 wlan2 I mean, Lua interpreting written in Java... I don't think that could be even kind of fast. 22:57 wlan2 I wonder how far did such project go... 23:08 wlan2 About yanking, irrlicht has a bug listing something similar as fixed on 2014 23:16 est31 wlan2, then you perhaps should use and compile irrlicht 1.9 23:19 wlan2 Or perhaps it should be added to debian stable. 23:20 wlan2 I mean, debian testing (sorry look I am not thinking straight) 23:21 Qkek Hello ;^ ) 23:24 wlan2 But it's not even in unstable, and I suppose it must be for some reason. I am not really in the mood to test something that is not on unstable yet. 23:27 alket is there something like maze generator, just curious 23:50 luizrpgluiz hi :) 23:58 wlan2 I read "NFC mod" instead of "NPC mod" about 14 minutes ago.